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Swedish Minister : "The population of Kashmir must be included in decisions concerning its future"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Closely following serious developments in Kashmir. The population of Kashmir must be included in decisions concerning its future.</p>— Margot Wallström (@margotwallstrom) <a href="https://twitter.com/margotwallstrom/status/1160233118974009344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Unfortunately the Swedish Foreign minister doesn't realize that India isn't a real democracy and nor do they have a democratic culture unlike Sweden, so what Kashmiris want doesn't matter in an Indian democracy.
 
Scandanavians imo are the most civilised people on the planet. They must be very confused as to why a 3rd country with so much poverty and lack of toilets is spending so much time in conflict with others. Someone should reply to her tweet with 'See Hindutva'.
 
Im intrigued by placing 800k soldiers indefinately, how much does it cost india.

India know they are losing the kashmiri people.
 
Im intrigued by placing 800k soldiers indefinately, how much does it cost india.

India know they are losing the kashmiri people.

Sure.

Kashmiris will be absorbed into the Indian democracy. India is a melting pot and you cannot have a certain set of people wrapped in cotton and set aside. Its about time they will become like regular Indians. No more special status to any Indian citizen. Everyone is equal in front of law and Indian constitution.
 
The Swedish Minister is a typical bleeding heart liberal that's been raised in extremely comfortable surroundings who doesn't understand much about the dark side of humanity.

She'd be better off focussing on the extreme high crime rates due to their failing immigration policy.

Because the tax-payers will keep on paying for it. Smart people all-around

What's your opinion about Pakistan's military budget considering the size of it's economy?
 
The Swedish Minister is a typical bleeding heart liberal that's been raised in extremely comfortable surroundings who doesn't understand much about the dark side of humanity.

She'd be better off focussing on the extreme high crime rates due to their failing immigration policy.



What's your opinion about Pakistan's military budget considering the size of it's economy?

Exactly, the dark side of humanity is India.
 
It won't be long before the Gujarat butcher is exposed for what he is around the world. Sweden is just a start!
 
Its fairly obvious it was a well thought out plan, curfews, blockade etc but this is unsustainable what will india do when curfew lifted.

You broken a promise to the kashmiris, as usual. The kashmiris are angry and when they fight back and militancy increases who are you going to blame? Pakistan.

This is india mess for revocating the constitution and separating the land. You only have yourself to blame...
 
Scandanavians imo are the most civilised people on the planet. They must be very confused as to why a 3rd country with so much poverty and lack of toilets is spending so much time in conflict with others. Someone should reply to her tweet with 'See Hindutva'.

I live in Sweden, most Swedes are actually pretty left-wing alhtough White Nationalist and EU-skeptic parties has been on the rise recently.

Interestingly, Sweden also recognizes the State of Palestine something other western European countries don’t.
 
I live in Sweden, most Swedes are actually pretty left-wing alhtough White Nationalist and EU-skeptic parties has been on the rise recently.

Interestingly, Sweden also recognizes the State of Palestine something other western European countries donÂ’t.

Youre very lucky to be living in such a great nation. Norway, Denmark, Finland are also great places and very liberal. Sure some far right are rising but they will never get into power.

The best thing about such nations is they dont care about trade deals or how they are seen, they will say what they feel.

I dont think Sweden has ever been vocal about Kashmir, so this shows the world is taking notice of Indian attrocities.
 
I live in Sweden, most Swedes are actually pretty left-wing alhtough White Nationalist and EU-skeptic parties has been on the rise recently.

Interestingly, Sweden also recognizes the State of Palestine something other western European countries donÂ’t.

Can you criticize the Swedish Monarchy?

When i was in High school Sweden was considered industrially the most developed country, IIRC masters in Sweden was actually free till 2011 or 12 I think..

Finland imo is better but i could be wrong.. I have a friend that married a Swede and loves Sweden but seems Finland’s education is actually better.
 
I dont think Sweden has ever been vocal about Kashmir, so this shows the world is taking notice of Indian attrocities.

Nothing will happen. Kashmir will still be an arena for sookfests from both sides of the border, and moreso confused British Pakistanis.
 
Nothing will happen. Kashmir will still be an arena for sookfests from both sides of the border, and moreso confused British Pakistanis.

Keep writing the same rubbish on each thread but dont quote me as you have no ability to debate.

A lot of things are going to happen, keep the candles ready.
 
Can you criticize the Swedish Monarchy?

When i was in High school Sweden was considered industrially the most developed country, IIRC masters in Sweden was actually free till 2011 or 12 I think..

Finland imo is better but i could be wrong.. I have a friend that married a Swede and loves Sweden but seems Finland’s education is actually better.

People make jokes about the monarchy all the time. One of Sweden’s most famous athlete, Zlatan Ibrahimovic once called himself the real King of Sweden and no one got mad about it. The Swedish Monarchy has less power compared to the British Monarchy and it’s only function is to represent Sweden internationally.

Sweden is one of the best countries to live in, but yes Finland’s education system is slightly better.
 
People make jokes about the monarchy all the time. One of Sweden’s most famous athlete, Zlatan Ibrahimovic once called himself the real King of Sweden and no one got mad about it. The Swedish Monarchy has less power compared to the British Monarchy and it’s only function is to represent Sweden internationally.

Sweden is one of the best countries to live in, but yes Finland’s education system is slightly better.

Thanks for the info.
 
A lot of things are going to happen, keep the candles ready.

This can be a folktale in your home, passed on from generation to generation, be it in Israel or Kashmir or wherever else.
 
Youre very lucky to be living in such a great nation. Norway, Denmark, Finland are also great places and very liberal. Sure some far right are rising but they will never get into power.

The best thing about such nations is they dont care about trade deals or how they are seen, they will say what they feel.

I dont think Sweden has ever been vocal about Kashmir, so this shows the world is taking notice of Indian attrocities.

The Social Democrats need a new leader otherwise no one can stop the right from getting in power. The current leader of the Social Democrats who is also the PM of Sweden is very unlikeable and weak.
 
This can be a folktale in your home, passed on from generation to generation, be it in Israel or Kashmir or wherever else.

Sure your air force read the folktale, came for revenge and were gifted tea.
 
I wonder what our Indian friends would say if Nelson Mendala was still alive and came out in support of the Kashmiri people...
 
Completely logical position to want to have people of that land help decide it's future.
 
I wonder what our Indian friends would say if Nelson Mendala was still alive and came out in support of the Kashmiri people...

Start quoting Gandhi's thoughts on South Africa and black people in particular no doubt.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Closely following serious developments in Kashmir. The population of Kashmir must be included in decisions concerning its future.</p>— Margot Wallström (@margotwallstrom) <a href="https://twitter.com/margotwallstrom/status/1160233118974009344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2019</a></blockquote>
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They will, Margot .. they get to elect their own legislature in the next election cycle.
 
The Swedish Minister is a typical bleeding heart liberal that's been raised in extremely comfortable surroundings who doesn't understand much about the dark side of humanity.

She'd be better off focussing on the extreme high crime rates due to their failing immigration policy.



What's your opinion about Pakistan's military budget considering the size of it's economy?

Educate us about Sweden and how life is managed here sir, I'm listening
 
Did they? They weren't allowed to vote on whether the article should've been scrapped.

Article 370 was a contract between the Indian leaders and Kashmir rulers. The people never had a vote on it anyway. Same applied to all the 30 states (500) that joined India in 1947.
 
I wonder what our Indian friends would say if Nelson Mendala was still alive and came out in support of the Kashmiri people...

Syed Ali Gilani is no less than Mandela. 50+ years of struggle and still more resolute and firm than ever.
 
Article 370 was a contract between the Indian leaders and Kashmir rulers. The people never had a vote on it anyway. Same applied to all the 30 states (500) that joined India in 1947.

Even the rulers such as the Sheikh family did not agree to repelling the article. India didn't take them into confidence.
 
If only this lady knew Punjabi, Fawad Chaudhry could have tweeted at her "na teena chon na tehraan chon"
 
Even the rulers such as the Sheikh family did not agree to repelling the article. India didn't take them into confidence.

Sheikh family are not in power, they are ordinary voting citizens now. Why should they be consulted?
 
Keep writing the same rubbish on each thread but dont quote me as you have no ability to debate.

A lot of things are going to happen, keep the candles ready.

I know you got your popcorn ready but you overestimate jihadis way too much. There will be a few but they don't move the needle at all. This will be one of those movies that is way too predictable from the first minute.
 
I know you got your popcorn ready but you overestimate jihadis way too much. There will be a few but they don't move the needle at all. This will be one of those movies that is way too predictable from the first minute.

Freedom fighters. Jihad is a struggle for many reasons, one being fighting for justice. As a Hindu please do not use our religous words in a negative manner. Maybe if the Pandits had some sort of similar ideology of self defence invaders wouldn't have smashed you and took over your lands for a thousands years.
 
Freedom fighters. Jihad is a struggle for many reasons, one being fighting for justice. As a Hindu please do not use our religous words in a negative manner. Maybe if the Pandits had some sort of similar ideology of self defence invaders wouldn't have smashed you and took over your lands for a thousands years.

Forget what I am as you have no clue. If they themselves identify as jihadis, what else is everybody gonna call them? Also nobody is going to glorify them as they usually die a miserable death which solves absolutely no purpose. When a man has zero self worth so that he kills himself under delusion then don't expect others to show any respect. Pandits are what u just called them. Pandits. And bravo to you for being part of those M3ughals. I heard horse riding for days was a pain, you know, with no itch creams
 
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Forget what I am as you have no clue. If they themselves identify as jihadis, what else is everybody gonna call them? Also nobody is going to glorify them as they usually die a miserable death which solves absolutely no purpose. When a man has zero self worth so that he kills himself under delusion then don't expect others to show any respect. Pandits are what u just called them. Pandits. And bravo to you for being part of those Mughals. I heard horse riding for days was a pain.

Yes they call themselves as Jihadis but as freedom fighters and anyone fighting against occupation is a freedom fighter. It doesn't matter what Hindutva extremists think.

Hindu extremists were beat down when it mattered and their nation conquered with ease by various powers. Nobody takes these cowards are brave now because they use thousands of armed soldiers against an unarmed civilian population.
 
Yes they call themselves as Jihadis but as freedom fighters and anyone fighting against occupation is a freedom fighter. It doesn't matter what Hindutva extremists think.

Hindu extremists were beat down when it mattered and their nation conquered with ease by various powers. Nobody takes these cowards are brave now because they use thousands of armed soldiers against an unarmed civilian population.

Thousands of armed soldiers against unarmed civilians? You must be talking about those barbaric Persian hordes? Hindus were beat down when it mattered? If it doesn't matter now why are u in anguish? I say believe in modern democracy. A perfect veil for anything you do to keep the positive perception going while you subdue the weak until they relent. Welcome to the games of the world. Look at US, China, Russia, England, Israel...everybody's done it.
 
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Ruler was Hari Singh. And his Son Karan Singh has supported the aborrogation of Art 370.

You're exposing how little you know about Kashmir again. Article 370 was signed between the Prime Minister of India and Sheikh Abdullah, he was a party to that agreement and his son is clearly against repelling it. Also the Dogra regime was dissolved ever since India abolished princely states almost 50 years ago, Hari Singh son does not matter anymore as their family does not rule over Kashmir.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-peace-is-now-laid-to-rest-1565026669848.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princely_state#India
 
You're exposing how little you know about Kashmir again. Article 370 was signed between the Prime Minister of India and Sheikh Abdullah, he was a party to that agreement and his son is clearly against repelling it. Also the Dogra regime was dissolved ever since India abolished princely states almost 50 years ago, Hari Singh son does not matter anymore as their family does not rule over Kashmir.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-peace-is-now-laid-to-rest-1565026669848.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princely_state#India

time and time again cannot trust the indians, they break deals.
 
Yes they call themselves as Jihadis but as freedom fighters and anyone fighting against occupation is a freedom fighter. It doesn't matter what Hindutva extremists think.

Hindu extremists were beat down when it mattered and their nation conquered with ease by various powers. Nobody takes these cowards are brave now because they use thousands of armed soldiers against an unarmed civilian population.

Terrorist Jihadis. Thats what they are. Banned around the world.

The people who got beat down easily and got conquered various times were from the area that today is part of western neighbour of india. Lost their land, culture, religion etc etc.

Those who fought, retained their land culture religion etc. And anyone who tries to be aggressive will be taught a fitting lesson.
 
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Terrorist Jihadis. Thats what they are. Banned around the world.

The people who got beat down easily and got conquered various times were from the area that today is part of western neighbour of india. Lost their land, culture, religion etc etc.

Those who fought, retained their land culture religion etc. And anyone who tries to be aggressive will be taught a fitting lesson.

Freedom fighters, the terrorist Pandits are the those of your government and army.

Sure thats what they teach you in school. lol Then again you believe your PM when he mentioned clouds,radar,dig cameras, emails :))
 
Freedom fighters, the terrorist Pandits are the those of your government and army.

Sure thats what they teach you in school. lol Then again you believe your PM when he mentioned clouds,radar,dig cameras, emails :))

Terrorists. Banned in UK as well.

They teach that everywhere in the world. Who invaded, who got conquered first, who lost everything, who resisted and still have their land culture and religion etc.

Chest thumping here wont change it.
 
Terrorists. Banned in UK as well.

They teach that everywhere in the world. Who invaded, who got conquered first, who lost everything, who resisted and still have their land culture and religion etc.

Chest thumping here wont change it.

Sure, they teach you radars dont work with clouds around. :sachin
 
You're exposing how little you know about Kashmir again. Article 370 was signed between the Prime Minister of India and Sheikh Abdullah, he was a party to that agreement and his son is clearly against repelling it. Also the Dogra regime was dissolved ever since India abolished princely states almost 50 years ago, Hari Singh son does not matter anymore as their family does not rule over Kashmir.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-peace-is-now-laid-to-rest-1565026669848.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princely_state#India

Article 370 does NOT matter anymore. It is a relic that belongs in a museum now.
 
Terrorist Jihadis. Thats what they are. Banned around the world.

The people who got beat down easily and got conquered various times were from the area that today is part of western neighbour of india. Lost their land, culture, religion etc etc.

Those who fought, retained their land culture religion etc. And anyone who tries to be aggressive will be taught a fitting lesson.

The word terrorist is thrown around way to much these days. Any country can label a separatist movement a terrorist organization to delegitimize their struggle. The Mujahideen in Afghanistan is a good example of this.
 
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You're exposing how little you know about Kashmir again. Article 370 was signed between the Prime Minister of India and Sheikh Abdullah, he was a party to that agreement and his son is clearly against repelling it. Also the Dogra regime was dissolved ever since India abolished princely states almost 50 years ago, Hari Singh son does not matter anymore as their family does not rule over Kashmir.

https://www.livemint.com/news/india...-peace-is-now-laid-to-rest-1565026669848.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princely_state#India

Hari Singh was the ruler and Abdullah signed on his behalf. Hari Singh and later Karan singh continued to be Sadar e Riyasat.

It was the Dogra dynasty that aceded to India.

The Abdullahs too are not in power, so if Hari Singhs family doesnot matter so doesnt Abdullahs.
 
Hari Singh was the ruler and Abdullah signed on his behalf. Hari Singh and later Karan singh continued to be Sadar e Riyasat.

It was the Dogra dynasty that aceded to India.

The Abdullahs too are not in power, so if Hari Singhs family doesnot matter so doesnt Abdullahs.

The person that should have had the authority to decide on the fate of this article should have been an elected representative of Kashmir - the Chief Minister & legislature however India carried out a coup and imposed President's rule on Kashmir. So the President of India who is not a representative of Jammu and Kashmir ended up making this decision on behalf of them.
 
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