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Tailor beheaded in Udaipur for backing Nupur Sharma as murderers post video on social media

sweep_shot said:
What kind of idiot would support someone like Nupur Sharma?

The tailor seemed stupid.
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Is that all that matters to you?

The guy has been brutally murdered and all you can do is talk about his stupidity?
 
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Any sightings or condemnations from our dear friend Ashok Swain on the incident on any social media platforms >?


He recently cited the Canadian Hindu extremist (paid stooge of the Canadian Khalistanis) a few days ago.


A lot of our Pakistani posters here seem to quote this guy...
 
Cover Drive Six said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BIG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BIG</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a> Assasins of Kanhaiya Lal release their video with swords with which they beheaded Kanhaiya Lal on camera and threaten that adherents of Labbaik Rasul Allah will also behead Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Nupur Sharma. <a href="https://t.co/zbaUElTdWP">pic.twitter.com/zbaUElTdWP</a></p>— Divya Kumar Soti (@DivyaSoti) <a href="https://twitter.com/DivyaSoti/status/1541756411964710912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Hope they are caught soon and get their "shahadat" by the court order.
 
No defending this act whatsoever. As upsetting as his support for Nupur would be no one has the right to take another's life in such a manner. I would have no complaints if the perpetrators of such a heinous crime met a similar end. Such evil people are not doing Islam or it's believers any favours with such inhuman acts.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Kamlesh Tiwari

Kishan Boliya

Kanhaiya Lal

All murdered for alleged insults to Islam.

Kamlesh Tiwari even served 1 year jail.

Hindus have to think what is this fake secularism giving them. Who or What is enabling these guys to kill hindus with impunity in a 80 per cent hindu country.

While the NGOs and leftist cabal are crying on arrest of Zubair for insults to Hinduism and asking he be released. Calling his arrest attack on democracy and FoE.

Where is the outrage on killing of Hindus? Remember what happened when Samuel Paty was murdered? Remember the outrage on Charlie Hebdo attacks? No such outrage for hindus. Why? Well ask yourself.
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Outrage happens when the media decides to give a story some airtime. Problem is, Indian media is mostly Godi media. They make primetime debates on any Hindu who's at the receiving end of a Muslim. They're like scavengers trawling through news hoping for such a story every day so they can go nuts.

Here's a story for you, I bet you haven't heard of. A mother and her six-year-old daughter, yes 6 years old, were gangraped by men in a car a few days back. How many channels covered this? None. How many websites covered this. Very few. Indian Express, TOI and Scroll, NDTV have buried this article somewhere deep.

The woman was a beggar and was returning from a Muslim dargah. The men, at least the main accused, were Hindus.

Now imagine if it was the other way round....
 
Udaipur: The murder of a tailor, Kanhaiya Lal, has sparked tension in Udaipur. The gruesome killing that was recorded on camera by the assailants is being treated as a terror incident and large gatherings have been banned across Rajasthan for a month.

Here are the top 10 updates on this big story

Both the killers seen on camera - Gos Mohammad and Riyaz Akhtari - have been arrested, and a special investigation team (SIT) has been asked to investigate the incident.

Gos Mohammad and Riyaz Akhtari had entered Kanhaiya Lal's shop posing as customers. A video shot by them shows the tailor taking measurements of one of the men, who then slits his throat with a cleaver. Police said they first tried to behead the tailor but couldn't.

In another video, the killers are seen gloating about the murder and issuing a threat to Prime Minister Narendra Modi as they brandish their cleavers.

The centre is treating the murder as a terror incident and a National Investigation Agency team has been sent to Udaipur after preliminary information suggested that the killers could have had links with ISIS, officials have said.

About 600 extra troops have been deployed in the city to avoid any untoward incident. Curfew was imposed in parts of Udaipur last night after stray incidents of violence were reported from some areas.

Kanhaiya Lal had expressed support on social media for the former BJP spokesperson Nupur Sharma, whose controversial remarks on Prophet Mohammed had set off a huge controversy at home and abroad.

He was recently arrested over a post on social media in support of Nupur Sharma. On June 15, while he was on bail, he told the police that he was receiving threat calls.

The officials then called both parties to the police station and the matter was resolved. Police say they are investigating the role of community leaders who had intervened in the matter.

An Assistant Sub Inspector at Dhan Mandi police station in Udaipur, where the tailor had reported his concerns over the threat calls, has been suspended for negligence, officials said.

Rajasthan Chief Minister Ashok Gehlot in a series of tweets urged the citizens to maintain peace and assured quick and strict action against the killers. Several politicians, including Rahul Gandhi, Shashi Tharoor, Arvind Kejriwal and Anurag Thakur, have condemned the incident.

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Romali_rotti said:
Any sightings or condemnations from our dear friend Ashok Swain on the incident on any social media platforms >?


He recently cited the Canadian Hindu extremist (paid stooge of the Canadian Khalistanis) a few days ago.


A lot of our Pakistani posters here seem to quote this guy...
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How could the guy be a stooge of Khalistanis when he's openly calling for killing Sikhs
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Shocking. Rajasthan Police had arrested <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KanhaiyaLal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KanhaiyaLal</a> on June 10 after FIR against him for supporting Nupur Sharma. But on June 15 when he complained to cops about death threats after 5-7 people began doing recce of his shop, cops refused giving security. Instead did a compromise. <a href="https://t.co/ptDJ7D3xAw">pic.twitter.com/ptDJ7D3xAw</a></p>— Aditya Raj Kaul (@AdityaRajKaul) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1542015068598022145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
This was planned all along

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Murderer of Kanhaiyalal made video on 17th in advance that he will do someone's 'sar tan se juda'.<br><br>Such is the extremism among these people that they plan for such acts like it's UPSC exam. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Udaipur?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Udaipur</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/justiceforkanhaiyalal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#justiceforkanhaiyalal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IslamicTerrorismInIndia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IslamicTerrorismInIndia</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HindusUnderAttackInIndia?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HindusUnderAttackInIndia</a> <a href="https://t.co/wIjEf3zC1K">pic.twitter.com/wIjEf3zC1K</a></p>— Aapna Bihar (@Aapna__Bihar) <a href="https://twitter.com/Aapna__Bihar/status/1541824619124256768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Varun said:
BIMARU gonna BIMARU.
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Two lynchings of hindus by muslims I remember in the last six months - Kishan Bharwad from Gujarat and Nagaraju from Hyderabad. Sure there are plenty more. So this isn't really confined to so called BIMARU states are liberals are desperate to potray.
 
BIG: Islamist radical murderer Ghous Mohammad of Udaipur killing case had visited Pakistan in 2014, was in touch with Barelvi Islamist group. Agencies probing how he was radicalised and who was behind him as a handler in Pakistan. #KanhaiyaLal had 26 knife wounds on his body.
 
Kerala Governor Arif Mohd. Khan: “We worry when symptoms come but refuse to notice the deeper disease. Children are being taught in madrassas that punishment for blasphemy is beheading. It's being taught as the law of God...What's being taught there should be examined”.
 
Regardless of this event, the hypocrisy and selective anger by Indian Hindu's is absurd and almost comical.

The Hindutva movement has been targeting minorities for years now - now when the chickens come home to roost it's a big "surprise".
 
This is what happens when you play with fire. You are going to pit hindus and muslims against each other, and voila one day something like this happens and sparks a fire that will send whole country into a riot like situation.

Current dispensation has done what probably ISI had failed to do over so many decades.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
This is what happens when you play with fire. You are going to pit hindus and muslims against each other, and voila one day something like this happens and sparks a fire that will send whole country into a riot like situation.

Current dispensation has done what probably ISI had failed to do over so many decades.
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Interesting point.

Recently, i saw video of some india army personal explaining how to cause internal ruckus in pakistan by making the sects fight amongst each other.

While pakistan can also retaliate by casuing a hindu muslim issue in india where any act by muslims can result in a harsh reaction by the hindus at genocide level causing an international issue..
 
Abstraction1 said:
Regardless of this event, the hypocrisy and selective anger by Indian Hindu's is absurd and almost comical.

The Hindutva movement has been targeting minorities for years now - now when the chickens come home to roost it's a big "surprise".
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Yes an inappropriate statement is the same as beheading. Big “surprise” indeed.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
BIG: Islamist radical murderer Ghous Mohammad of Udaipur killing case had visited Pakistan in 2014, was in touch with Barelvi Islamist group. Agencies probing how he was radicalised and who was behind him as a handler in Pakistan. #KanhaiyaLal had 26 knife wounds on his body.
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It’s unfortunately an intelligence failure. Why was this guy not monitored?

It’s scary how many Ghous Md we have in every village in India.

Need to go after these kind of mullahs who brainswash these people . If they can brainwash people in UK and Europe, how difficult it is to brainwash jobless and illiterate Muslims.

Even in Kashmir and parts of Hindi belt it’s the Mullahs who are the real danger.
 
Hindus and Muslims in India are ethnically the same. If one kills another, they are killing their own brother just because he has a difference in opinion about what God is and how one prays. Such a petty reason to take your own brother's life.
 
Local.Dada said:
It’s unfortunately an intelligence failure. Why was this guy not monitored?

It’s scary how many Ghous Md we have in every village in India.

Need to go after these kind of mullahs who brainswash these people . If they can brainwash people in UK and Europe, how difficult it is to brainwash jobless and illiterate Muslims.

Even in Kashmir and parts of Hindi belt it’s the Mullahs who are the real danger.
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Doubt it was an intelligence failure per se. Don’t think anybody saw this coming and they just seemed like ordinary citizens rather than known terrorists.

I would say it was more of a security failure at the local level. The tailor had been arrested and there were threats to his life. He should have laid low a while longer as the police weren’t going to provide protection for him.
 
Law enforcements have been able to control the situations for now and hopefully can for another week.
 
Bunch of sickos. Murdering someone because they support an extremist, isnt doing yourself any favours.

Its not suprising our Indian residents esp the supporters of extremists themselves are using this to attack a whole religion. Its better for them to figure out the core problem with their 3rd world nation, which is electing Hindu far right extremists into government. Since then India has turned into an extremist hotbed.

Its a ticking time bomb in India, sooner or later there will be even bigger violence maybe on a larger scale than Gujrat. We do have some posters on here who were cheerleading their faith extremists to take to the streets and use force against the minority religions.
 
Abstraction1 said:
Regardless of this event, the hypocrisy and selective anger by Indian Hindu's is absurd and almost comical.

The Hindutva movement has been targeting minorities for years now - now when the chickens come home to roost it's a big "surprise".
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100%

One can start a thread on Hindu extremists murdering Muslims, Christians or their own Dalits on weekly basis, those are just the incidents reported.

Various human rights organistions have warned for years of an impending genocide against minorities in Hindutva India.

Btw the BJP supporters never get into their hollow heads, Kashmiris have a moral, lawful right to defend themselves in any way against their occupiers.
 
The Foreign Office (FO) on Wednesday "categorically rejected" Indian insinuations linking a Pakistani organisation to the suspects involved in the alleged murder of a Hindu tailor in Udaipur.

"We have seen reports in a segment of the Indian media referring to investigations into the murder case in Udaipur, mischievously seeking to link the accused individuals, Indian nationals, to an organisation in Pakistan," the FO said.

We categorically reject any such insinuations, which are typical of the BJP-RSS ‘Hindutva’ driven Indian regime’s attempts at maligning Pakistan including by externalising their internal issues through pointing fingers towards Pakistan, it added.

"Such malicious attempts will not succeed in misleading the people, either in India or abroad," the FO said.

Hundreds of police were deployed in the Indian city of Udaipur after the murder of a Hindu tailor allegedly by two Muslims in revenge for inflammatory comments about Islam by a ruling party member.

The attack — in which the men seemingly tried to behead their victim — was captured on video that went viral and has gripped a country with a long history of communal violence.

The video showed Kanhaiya Lal being attacked in his shop, with further footage showing the two accused purportedly brandishing large knives and threatening to kill Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

They then justified their murder as a response to Lal's alleged support of derogatory comments about Prophet Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him) by a spokeswoman for Modi's Hindu nationalist BJP party, Nupur Sharma.

The remarks by Nupur Sharma at a TV debate in late May sparked protests that turned violent in some parts of India and demonstrations across the Islamic world.

According to the Hindustan Times, an investigation had revealed that the suspects — who have been arrested — had links to "Karachi-based Sunni Islamist organisation Dawat-e-Islami, which has links with Barelvi pan-Islamic Tehreek-i-Labbaik extremist organisation in Pakistan".

Lockdown in Udaipur

Hundreds gathered outside Lal's house ahead of his funeral on Wednesday, a day after several hundred protested and chanted Hindu slogans in response to the killing.

Policemen carry out a flag march through a street in Ajmer on June 29 following the alleged murder of a Hindu tailor by two Muslim men in Udaipur. — AFP
People on motorcycles and cars waved saffron flags — the colour of the Hindu faith — and shouted slogans demanding the death penalty for the accused.

“Hang them, hang them. My husband has gone,” the man's distraught widow told reporters.

“If the law doesn't want to do anything, give them to us so that we can kill them,” said another relative.

The two young men were arrested on Tuesday as they attempted to flee Udaipur by motorbike, news reports said.

The central National Investigation Agency (NIA) said that the men circulated the video “in order to trigger panic and strike terror among the masses across the country”.

To prevent potential sectarian violence, authorities deployed 600 extra police and put the city of around 450,000 people under curfew, cutting mobile internet access there and in other parts of Rajasthan state.

Rajasthan chief minister Ashok Gehlot appealed to people not to share the video as it would “serve the attackers' motive of creating discord in society”.

“The involvement of any organisation and international links will be thoroughly investigated,” Indian Home Minister Amit Shah tweeted.

Indian Muslim organisations condemned the killing, but Surendra Kumar Jain from the far-right Hindu group Vishwa Hindu Parishad said that many Muslim leaders have “insulted Hindu beliefs”.

“You should be afraid of the day when Hindus too start giving reply to the insult in the same coin,” Jain said in a video message.

A demonstration in New Delhi called by a far-right Hindu group drew around 100 people shouting slogans.

Diplomatic storm

The derogatory remarks about Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) by BJP spokeswoman Nupur Sharma at a TV debate in late May sparked protests that turned violent in some parts of India and demonstrations across the Islamic world.

She was sacked by the party after her comments, which prompted the governments of nearly 20 countries to summon their Indian envoys to express their displeasure.

Lal's wife told broadcaster NDTV that on June 10 her husband was arrested over a social media post supporting Sharma and released on bail a day later.

Five days later the father of two said he had received death threats but on Tuesday returned to work in his shop, she said.

The purported video of the killing — which police have not yet confirmed is genuine — showed Lal measuring one of the men for new clothes before he and his accomplice attacked him.

Sporadic violence
India has seen sporadic sectarian violence between majority Hindus and Muslims, who make up around 14 per cent of the 1.4 billion-strong population.

Religious riots in the capital New Delhi left 53 people dead in 2020, while in 2013 another 62 were killed in the nearby city of Muzaffarnagar.

In 2002 at least 1,000 were killed in violence in Gujarat — at the time led by then state premier Modi. Most of the victims were Muslims.

Rajasthan also saw riots earlier this year, when almost 100 people were arrested after police fired tear gas to stop fighting and stone-pelting.

Modi's party has been accused of marginalising the Muslim community and sowing divisions with Hindus since coming to power in 2014.

The row over Sharma's comments followed anger across the Muslim world in 2020 after France's president defended the right of a satirical magazine to publish blasphemous sketches of the Holy Prophet (PBUH).

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I'm surprised it took this long to be honest. Everyone knows that it is playing with fire to insult the Prophet PBUH, this has become infamous since the Salman Rushdie days. It only takes one nutcase to decide they are going to take revenge in blood, and you can always find a religious extremist in any first world country never mind India.

I utterly condemn the slaughter of the tailor, it is barbaric behaviour which doesn't belong in this century. I fear for India.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
This is what happens when you play with fire. You are going to pit hindus and muslims against each other, and voila one day something like this happens and sparks a fire that will send whole country into a riot like situation.

Current dispensation has done what probably ISI had failed to do over so many decades.
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The real masterstroke is the right wingers will say "I TOLD YOU SO" as the country goes down..completely oblivious to the fact that they too played a huge role in its destruction.

On topic though, I think the killers must be made an example out of.

Ugly, low life losers who need to be given a death sentence imho.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I'm surprised it took this long to be honest. Everyone knows that it is playing with fire to insult the Prophet PBUH, this has become infamous since the Salman Rushdie days. It only takes one nutcase to decide they are going to take revenge in blood, and you can always find a religious extremist in any first world country never mind India.

I utterly condemn the slaughter of the tailor, it is barbaric behaviour which doesn't belong in this century. I fear for India.
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What one holds dearly to one's heart means nothing for the other. People need to grow thicker skin and not get over emotional over every insult that is thrown at them.
 
pillionrider said:
I saw the video. The two pretend to be his customers before attacking him from behind.

And the post-victory video - the smiling peace on their faces is similar to what you'd expect to see on a severely ******** person's face, blissfully unaware of the real world they live in.

Hopefully, the case doesn't drag on and they're swiftly sent to rot in jail. You don't want the death penalty for them. You need them to die slowly.

I'll still blame Modi's BJP for this though. They've been sprinkling petrol across the country and have now started the fires. **** like these two guys used to exist earlier too, but were kept hidden inside the woodwork through careful and thoughtful politics and law and order. But now they're being encouraged to come out.

I really don't know if India can recover from what Modi has unleashed here.

Anti-India Pakistanis must be over themselves in glee.
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I get your hopelessness....

As crazy as it might sound, BJP is the best thing to happen to India in the long run.

I know easy for me to say that...

But what India needs is true secularism where rules are CRYSTAL CLEAR and don't favour any side.

This wouldn't have happened in pre 2014 India where rocking the status quo wasn't profitable.

Now with BJP in charge, we are hurtling in the opposite direction.

Let the rabid dogs fight with each other and once they are both exhausted....everyone will come to the realization that all of this is pointless.

Hopefully our nation survives the onslaught.

You can't kill off 20% of your population and start afresh.

The only way is to coexist and humans are normally wired to accept rules as long as its applicable for all.

Dark times ahead for sure.
 
Champ_Pal said:
What one holds dearly to one's heart means nothing for the other. People need to grow thicker skin and not get over emotional over every insult that is thrown at them.
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But there'll always be people who don't. Maybe people need to grow a thicker skin and accept revenge attacks are the price to pay for insulting the Prophet PBUH.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I get your hopelessness....

As crazy as it might sound, BJP is the best thing to happen to India in the long run.

I know easy for me to say that...

But what India needs is true secularism where rules are CRYSTAL CLEAR and don't favour any side.

This wouldn't have happened in pre 2014 India where rocking the status quo wasn't profitable.

Now with BJP in charge, we are hurtling in the opposite direction.

Let the rabid dogs fight with each other and once they are both exhausted....everyone will come to the realization that all of this is pointless.

Hopefully our nation survives the onslaught.

You can't kill off 20% of your population and start afresh.

The only way is to coexist and humans are normally wired to accept rules as long as its applicable for all.

Dark times ahead for sure.
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Rules are crystal clear in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan bro. I think they are about as secular as the BJP who you are championing here for their clarity.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
I get your hopelessness....

As crazy as it might sound, BJP is the best thing to happen to India in the long run.

I know easy for me to say that...

But what India needs is true secularism where rules are CRYSTAL CLEAR and don't favour any side.

This wouldn't have happened in pre 2014 India where rocking the status quo wasn't profitable.

Now with BJP in charge, we are hurtling in the opposite direction.

Let the rabid dogs fight with each other and once they are both exhausted....everyone will come to the realization that all of this is pointless.

Hopefully our nation survives the onslaught.

You can't kill off 20% of your population and start afresh.

The only way is to coexist and humans are normally wired to accept rules as long as its applicable for all.

Dark times ahead for sure.
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This will happen eventually after everyone realizes thats the ONLY sustainable route.
 
I disagree, BJP is the best thing that happened for Pakistan.

A right wing nationalist religious government of India is finally vindicating Pakistan’s claims of terrorist India for decades.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
But there'll always be people who don't. Maybe people need to grow a thicker skin and accept revenge attacks are the price to pay for insulting the Prophet PBUH.
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You seem to not grasp the fact that physical violence is not allowed in a civilized society. You can return the favor with your own clever insult and that's about it.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I disagree, BJP is the best thing that happened for Pakistan.

A right wing nationalist religious government of India is finally vindicating Pakistan’s claims of terrorist India for decades.
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India is no secular utopia, but calling them terrorist is laugh worthy.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Well at least you agree India is not secular - it’s a start.
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Hindu backlash was bound to happen at some point. I believe India was never a true secular country like the ones in the West. The majority must abandon their religion or at least become only nominal for a trey secular country to flourish like say UK or Australia or France.
 
Disgusting stuff.

I always think if these people are so brave then go to warzones if you have guts instead of targeting civilians.

I have to mention the hilarious hypocrisy though. Go to any Hindutva Watch page, dozen a dime online, you will see disgusting beatings, attacks, lynchings, killings of Muslims with dates going back years under Modi. Basically this incident times a 100. I can post some here but I'd get banned. If this outrage was shown by numpties like Joshila and his ilk then India would be a safe haven with countless minorities still alive.
 
Champ_Pal said:
You seem to not grasp the fact that physical violence is not allowed in a civilized society. You can return the favor with your own clever insult and that's about it.
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India isn't a civilised society. Are we talking about some other country perhaps?
 
Pakpak said:
Disgusting stuff.

I always think if these people are so brave then go to warzones if you have guts instead of targeting civilians.

I have to mention the hilarious hypocrisy though. Go to any Hindutva Watch page, dozen a dime online, you will see disgusting beatings, attacks, lynchings, killings of Muslims with dates going back years under Modi. Basically this incident times a 100. I can post some here but I'd get banned. If this outrage was shown by numpties like Joshila and his ilk then India would be a safe haven with countless minorities still alive.
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Believe it or not some people enjoy this bloodshed, violence and targeting of certain people. They then use such horrible incidents to reafirm their view, they are the good guys. Tbf not much different to Nato supporters.
 
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] I get what you mean about the BJP and have actually maintained that they are an important political party for India, and needed. Just feel they're better in the opposition. Heck I'd even take them as the people in power if they shed Modi-Shah-Bisht and their hangers on.
 
India seems to be a ticking time-bomb.

Behind all the bravado, there seems to be an atmosphere of ethnic hatred.
 
Saj said:
India seems to be a ticking time-bomb.

Behind all the bravado, there seems to be an atmosphere of ethnic hatred.
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I think its at an all time high. The clock is ticking, sadly we are likely to see another Gujrat.

Here you can an Al Jazeera report on how music is also used to spread hate.

 
pillionrider said:
[MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] I get what you mean about the BJP and have actually maintained that they are an important political party for India, and needed. Just feel they're better in the opposition. Heck I'd even take them as the people in power if they shed Modi-Shah-Bisht and their hangers on.
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I remember [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION] saying BJP is better as an opposition and Congress as a ruler and they both are doing the opposite roles right now.
 
Everycountry is a ticking a time bomb.. social media power across.

People have forgotten the England riots already.. it was a ticking timebomb then, England has saved itself with Brexit if not it would be in same situation as Europe.
 
JaDed said:
Everycountry is a ticking a time bomb.. social media power across.

People have forgotten the England riots already.. it was a ticking timebomb then, England has saved itself with Brexit if not it would be in same situation as Europe.
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lol.

Uk riots were mainly criminals jumping on the bandwagon. There was no threat of a Gujrat style massacre.

India has a deep history of religious bloodshed. Your BJP government has been lighting the diya to stoke communal differences and bloodshed. No country compares to India in this regard. Its only a matter of time before a huge bloody incident takes place, you can then tell us it was all CGI.
 
KingKhanWC said:
lol.

Uk riots were mainly criminals jumping on the bandwagon. There was no threat of a Gujrat style massacre.

India has a deep history of religious bloodshed. Your BJP government has been lighting the diya to stoke communal differences and bloodshed. No country compares to India in this regard. Its only a matter of time before a huge bloody incident takes place, you can then tell us it was all CGI.
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If you say so, you are similar to majority on this thread hoping for a massacre.
 
JaDed said:
If you say so, you are similar to majority on this thread hoping for a massacre.
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What a foolish statement. Address the point.

Are you aware of the communal religious tensions and the history of India? Or do you think nothing will happen ?
 
Cricfan4eva said:
This is what happens when you play with fire. You are going to pit hindus and muslims against each other, and voila one day something like this happens and sparks a fire that will send whole country into a riot like situation.

Current dispensation has done what probably ISI had failed to do over so many decades.
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Have some shame. Playing with fire? So hindus should just let muslims do whatever they want and sit quiet?

Appeasement has to end, one way or another. If you think this incident wont have wide ranging repercussions you are mistaken.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
This will happen eventually after everyone realizes thats the ONLY sustainable route.
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Agreed.And that will happen when parties realise BJP's game. Right now the parties are playing a 80s and 90s play in a 2022 game.

BJP has changed the rules.

The only way is to:

1.Shed Dynasty.
2.Shed Appeasement.
3. Stop corruption.
4. Do development.

Lets see how bjp wins.
 
KingKhanWC said:
What a foolish statement. Address the point.

Are you aware of the communal religious tensions and the history of India? Or do you think nothing will happen ?
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Its pretty obvious what you are trying, also open your dig threads for this and can do what you want there, rather than derailing thread about someone doing his job being killed by his customers for social media status.
 
Technics 1210 said:
He probably doesn't realise the partition was a religious endeavour.
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Also probably thinks India is secular.

JaDed said:
Its pretty obvious what you are trying, also open your dig threads for this and can do what you want there, rather than derailing thread about someone doing his job being killed by his customers for social media status.
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Not sure what you are imagining. :sachin

This man was brutally murdered. But these tensions and hate between Hindus and other faiths has a lot do with the Indian governments, policies and comments of hate. Feel free to refute this statement.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
This wouldn't have happened in pre 2014 India where rocking the status quo wasn't profitable.

Now with BJP in charge, we are hurtling in the opposite direction.
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:)))

2013 Muzzafarnagar riots: That resulted in nearly 62 deaths
2012 Assam riots: 77 people were reported to have been killed.
2011 Bharatpur riots: Eight people were killed.
2008 Kandhamal violence : 40+ killed
2008 Dhule riots: 4 people were left dead
2006 Aligarh riots: 5 people were killed due to the violence


Not even mentioned about Sikh Riots which happened to save Indira Axss:)))
 
cricketjoshila said:
Have some shame. Playing with fire? So hindus should just let muslims do whatever they want and sit quiet?

Appeasement has to end, one way or another. If you think this incident wont have wide ranging repercussions you are mistaken.
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Oh I bet this incident will have wide spread repercussion - one of which is changing the narrative from BJP being islamophobe to 'we were right about muslims'. You can almost sense glee in social media from some of the govt chatukaars, as if this is a license for them to further brandish all Indian muslims in a bad light.

But your denial of how we reached to this point also doesn't change the fact that BJP has managed to push country to the edge with their communal politics.

They don't realise that it is a fire they can't put out and something that will consume them as a whole too.
 
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Yet another false flag operation. Pulwana attack set the ground for the 370... let's see what this one does.

As soon as that filthy animal barked on national TV; the very carefully elaborated trap was set.

Unfortunately, things will only get worse from this point.

I am sorry for Indian Muslims. I hope they are prepared for a massive cycle of violence. They should leave India asap and if they can't then they should buy weapons and be prepared, that's what I would do. Indian Police will be standing with Hindutva terrorists as they did during Gujarat 2002 massacre. This time Modi the Muslim killer is PM, so the violence will be of exponential scale. Violence is not a matter of if but when. I pray I am wrong.

Awful situation to be in.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
The real masterstroke is the right wingers will say "I TOLD YOU SO" as the country goes down..completely oblivious to the fact that they too played a huge role in its destruction.

On topic though, I think the killers must be made an example out of.

Ugly, low life losers who need to be given a death sentence imho.
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Of course

but you will see the govt playing an ugly game instead. They will milk this as a revenge to Nupur Sharma episode.

My only fear is they don't realise they can't damage control if situation gets out of control.

However my other worry is if they even care, given they are facing peoples ire on all fronts - economy, policy making, foreign relations.
 
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Cricfan4eva said:
Of course

but you will see the govt playing an ugly game instead. They will milk this as a revenge to Nupur Sharma episode.

My only fear is they don't realise they can't control if situation gets out of control.

However my other worry is if they even care, given they are facing peoples ire on all fronts - economy, policy making, foreign relations.
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They (right wingers) are literally benefitting from each development from the day 1.

As things were slowing down... BOOM! the beheading!!

Indian society is consistently getting fractured by an extremist regime.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Oh I bet this incident will have wide spread repercussion - one of which is changing the narrative from BJP being islamophobe to 'we were right about muslims'. You can almost sense glee in social media from some of the govt chatukaars, as if this is a license for them to further brandish all Indian muslims in a bad light.

But your denial of how we reached to this point also doesn't change the fact that BJP has managed to push country to the edge with their communal politics.

They don't realise that it is a fire they can't put out and something that will consume them as a whole too.
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First of all this is not the issue of "Indian Muslims" as a whole.

The issue is when Nupur Sharma made that statement few 1000s came on the streets and rioted. There were slogans asking for her beheading. Muslim leaders didn't condemn that. Infact when action was taken against the rioters, some political parties, journalists etc criticized the government that took hard steps.

Parties saw it as an opportunity to consolidate their muslim votes.

The left leaning media further supported this.

That emboldened these extremists.

The rule of law should he same for every one. Appeasement of any community emboldens them to take the law into their hands.

The day in 1980, Indira Gandhi walked into an agreement with Imam of Jama Masjid to ask for his support in the elections, in return for favours towards the Muslim community, that day laid the foundation of whats happening today.

Rajiv Gandhi took it further in the Shah Bano case and Mulayam Lalu DMK Communists followed suit.


Slowly over 3 decades the hindu votes once fractured by caste divisions consolidated and moved towards the BJP, because the Hindus were fed up with the appeasement.

I had high hopes from AAP, led by an IITian, had RW nationalists like Kumar Vishwas and left leaning liberals like Bhushan. But they too went the appeasement way.

Unless we have a proper centrist party with only nationalism Secularism and development as an agenda, this isn't going to be over.

And dare i say, a dynasty less Congress may be our best hope.
 
cricketjoshila said:
First of all this is not the issue of "Indian Muslims" as a whole.

The issue is when Nupur Sharma made that statement few 1000s came on the streets and rioted. There were slogans asking for her beheading. Muslim leaders didn't condemn that. Infact when action was taken against the rioters, some political parties, journalists etc criticized the government that took hard steps.

Parties saw it as an opportunity to consolidate their muslim votes.

The left leaning media further supported this.

That emboldened these extremists.

The rule of law should he same for every one. Appeasement of any community emboldens them to take the law into their hands.

The day in 1980, Indira Gandhi walked into an agreement with Imam of Jama Masjid to ask for his support in the elections, in return for favours towards the Muslim community, that day laid the foundation of whats happening today.

Rajiv Gandhi took it further in the Shah Bano case and Mulayam Lalu DMK Communists followed suit.


Slowly over 3 decades the hindu votes once fractured by caste divisions consolidated and moved towards the BJP, because the Hindus were fed up with the appeasement.

I had high hopes from AAP, led by an IITian, had RW nationalists like Kumar Vishwas and left leaning liberals like Bhushan. But they too went the appeasement way.

Unless we have a proper centrist party with only nationalism Secularism and development as an agenda, this isn't going to be over.

And dare i say, a dynasty less Congress may be our best hope.
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What do you think emboldened Hindu extremists? Or do you actually believe there not a SINGLE Hindu extremist in India? :sachin
 
A sickening incident. It seems like blasphemy-linked violence is becoming more and more widespread in India similar to what we see in Pakistan. Extremism is a disease which has to be rooted out or else it will consume you. India needs to take strong actions against mullahs who spread hate and anarchy.
 
Either we condemn extremism in all forms or we do not do so at all. The problem is that many people pick and choose favouring their own community. When a Muslim extremist kills an innocent man the whole country is out to protest. When someone is killed for consuming veggies no one says a word other then they thought it was beef!
 
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Mob violence can be explained (in some ways) to emotions which people in the sub-continent seem to have in abundance.

Cold blooded/planned murders cannot be explained/justified in ANY shape of form.
 
Sad incident but this is just the start under Modi's India. Now hindus will take revenge and vice-versa. It will go on forever. All the seeds of hatred were sown by BJP. And it is quite pathetic to see andhbhakhts who used to say stuff like 'the police have already arrested them, what more do you want' in case of Hindus killing muslims but here they are singing a different tune. Hypocrisy and double standards at best.
 
Now of course without a shred of evidence the Indian media is telling us that these killers were trained in Pakistan:inzi2 Soon they will find cakes and biscuits with labels of "made in Pakistan" in their bag's as concrete and undeniable evidence:inzi2. See this is what their media always do then Indian people here say "we are not obsessed with Pakistan!". Why according to the Indian media are such people never trained in the Middle East, Bangladesh or Afghanistan?

Interestingly the Hindu's who kill Muslim's in India are never accused of being trained in Pakistan. I tell the the Indian audience are the most gullible in the world.
 
India has asked social media platforms to immediately remove content that encourages, glorifies or justifies the killing on Tuesday of a Hindu tailor, the government said.

A Hindu man was killed in his tailoring shop in a northwestern Indian town on Tuesday, and two machete-wielding men in a video claimed responsibility for it, raising tension in the area.

The Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology said in a notice issued late on Wednesday that the removal of the content was necessary "to prevent any incitement and disruption of public order and to restore public peace and harmony."

Fearing outbreaks of religious violence, police in the Indian state of Rajasthan banned public gatherings and suspended internet services a day after two Muslims posted a video claiming responsibility for slaying a Hindu man for alleged blasphemy.

"We are under strict orders to prevent any form of protests or demonstrations scheduled to condemn the murder," Hawa Singh Ghumaria, a senior police officer in the northwestern state told Reuters on Wednesday, adding that the crime had sent "shockwaves through the country.".

The two men also alluded to Nupur Sharma, a former spokeswoman for the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), whose blasphemous remarks earlier this month triggered domestic and international outrage.

Two assailants slashed Lal's head and throat in an attack while he taking measurements, according to Bhawarlal Thoda, a city administrator in Udaipur.

According to Thoda, the tailor had been detained over a social media post in support of the BJP spokeswoman that was traced to his mobile telephone, and after being released, Lal had told police on June 15 that he was being threatened by some group.

Express Tribune
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
But what India needs is true secularism where rules are CRYSTAL CLEAR and don't favour any side.

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If people like you can finally understand what is right and needed, such as the above statement, then BJP coming into power would have served it purpose.

No more PSEUDO SICKULARISM, or MINORITY APPEASEMENT.

True Secularism, be it Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jew or whatever else are all treated equally, is what will make India a great nation.
 
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