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George Monbiot - Tuesday 5 September 2017

Few of us expect much from political leaders: to do otherwise is to invite despair. But to Aung San Suu Kyi we entrusted our hopes. To mention her name was to invoke patience and resilience in the face of suffering, courage and determination in the unyielding struggle for freedom. She was an inspiration to us all.

Friends of mine devoted their working lives to the campaign for her release from the many years of detention imposed by the military dictatorship of Myanmar, and for the restoration of democracy. We celebrated when she was awarded the Nobel peace prize in 1991; when she was finally released from house arrest in 2010; and when she won the general election in 2015.

None of this is forgotten. Nor are the many cruelties she suffered, including isolation, physical attacks and the junta’s curtailment of her family life. But it is hard to think of any recent political leader by whom such high hopes have been so cruelly betrayed.

By any standards, the treatment of the Rohingya people, a Muslim minority in Myanmar, is repugnant. By the standards Aung San Suu Kyi came to symbolise, it is grotesque. They have been described by the UN as “the world’s most persecuted minority”, a status that has not changed since she took office.

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide describes five acts, any one of which, when “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”, amounts to genocide. With the obvious and often explicit purpose of destroying this group, four of them have been practised more or less continuously by Myanmar’s armed forces since Aung San Suu Kyi became de facto political leader.

I recognise that the armed forces retain great power in Myanmar, and that Aung San Suu Kyi does not exercise effective control over them. I recognise that the scope of her actions is limited. But, as well as a number of practical and legal measures that she could use directly to restrain these atrocities, she possesses one power in abundance: the power to speak out. Rather than deploying it, her response amounts to a mixture of silence, the denial of well-documented evidence, and the obstruction of humanitarian aid.

I doubt she has read the UN human rights report on the treatment of the Rohingyas, released in February. The crimes it revealed were horrific.

It documents the mass rape of women and girls, some of whom died as a result of the sexual injuries they suffered. It shows how children and adults had their throats slit in front of their families.

It reports the summary executions of teachers, elders and community leaders; helicopter gunships randomly spraying villages with gunfire; people shut in their homes and burnt alive; a woman in labour beaten by soldiers, her baby stamped to death as it was born.

It details the deliberate destruction of crops and the burning of villages to drive entire populations out of their homes; people trying to flee gunned down in their boats.

And this is just one report. Amnesty International published a similar dossier last year. There is a mountain of evidence suggesting that these actions are an attempt to eliminate this ethnic group from Myanmar.

Hard as it is to imagine, this campaign of terror has escalated in recent days. Refugees arriving in Bangladesh report widespread massacres. Malnutrition ravages the Rohingya, afflicting 80,000 children.

In response Aung San Suu Kyi has blamed these atrocities, in a chillingly remote interview, on insurgents, and expressed astonishment that anyone would wish to fight the army when the government has done so much for them. Perhaps this astonishment comes easily to someone who has never visited northern Rakhine state, where most of this is happening.

It is true that some Rohingya people have taken up arms, and that the latest massacres were triggered by the killing of 12 members of the security forces last month, attributed to a group that calls itself the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army. But the military response has been to attack entire populations, regardless of any possible involvement in the insurgency, and to spread such terror that 120,000 people have been forced to flee in the past fortnight.

In her Nobel lecture, Aung San Suu Kyi remarked: “Wherever suffering is ignored, there will be the seeds of conflict, for suffering degrades and embitters and enrages.” The rage of those Rohingya people who have taken up arms has been used as an excuse to accelerate an existing programme of ethnic cleansing.

She has not only denied the atrocities, attempting to shield the armed forces from criticism; she has also denied the very identity of the people being attacked, asking the US ambassador not to use the term Rohingya. This is in line with the government’s policy of disavowing their existence as an ethnic group, and classifying them – though they have lived in Myanmar for centuries – as interlopers. She has upheld the 1982 Citizenship Law, which denies these people their rights.

When a Rohingya woman provided detailed allegations about her gang rape and associated injuries by Myanmar soldiers, Aung San Suu Kyi’s office posted a banner on its Facebook page reading “Fake Rape”. Given her reputation for micromanagement, it seems unlikely that such action would have been taken without her approval.

Not only has she snubbed and obstructed UN officials who have sought to investigate the treatment of the Rohingya, but her government has prevented aid agencies from distributing food, water and medicines to people displaced or isolated by the violence. Her office has accused aid workers of helping “terrorists”, putting them at risk of attack, further impeding their attempts to help people who face starvation.

So far Aung San Suu Kyi has been insulated by the apologetics of those who refuse to believe she could so radically abandon the principles to which she once appealed. A list of excuses is proffered: that she didn’t want to jeopardise her prospects of election; that she doesn’t want to offer the armed forces a pretext to tighten their grip on power; that she has to keep China happy.

None of them stand up. As a great democracy campaigner once remarked: “It is not power that corrupts, but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it.” Who was this person? Aung San Suu Kyi. But now, whether out of prejudice or out of fear, she denies to others the freedoms she rightly claimed for herself. Her regime excludes – and in some cases seeks to silence – the very activists who helped to ensure her own rights were recognised.

This week, to my own astonishment, I found myself signing a petition for the revocation of her Nobel peace prize. I believe the Nobel committee should retain responsibility for the prizes it awards, and withdraw them if its laureates later violate the principles for which they were recognised. There are two cases in which this appears to be appropriate. One is Barack Obama, who, bafflingly, was given the prize before he was tested in office. His programme of drone strikes, which slaughtered large numbers of civilians, should disqualify him from this honour. The other is Aung San Suu Kyi.

Please sign this petition. Why? Because we now contemplate an extraordinary situation: a Nobel peace laureate complicit in crimes against humanity.

George Monbiot is a Guardian columnist

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...an-suu-kyi-nobel-peace-prize-rohingya-myanmar
 
This is a fantastic piece written in the British newspaper published today in The Guardian.

It's long but I urge everyone to read it - free of some of the nonsensical propaganda about this woman by some here.
 
If you going to start taking away Nobel Peace Prizes from leaders of countries because they started wars etc., very few Prizes would survive. Obama got the prize and his Administration has been part of the group which has started wars in Ukraine, Syria and Libya, while also providing logistical support for the bombing of Yemen.
 
Great read but the Nobel Peace Prize hasn't set much of a standard recently (i.e. Obama).

Aung San Suu Kyi is perhaps the perfect example of someone who changes when they get power.
 
If you going to start taking away Nobel Peace Prizes from leaders of countries because they started wars etc., very few Prizes would survive. Obama got the prize and his Administration has been part of the group which has started wars in Ukraine, Syria and Libya, while also providing logistical support for the bombing of Yemen.

I think the peace prize itself is debatable on whom gets it.

But that's not the point of the article, the point is more symbolic and that her true colours have come out in the last few years, even more so now by the mass exodus of this persecuted people.

What's worse she not only doesn't want to speak out, but is denying it's happening. She even called a gang raped woman a liar and a fake rapist on her Facebook page.

So the real question why she was championed as some peace activist in the first place. That's the point of the article.
 
If you going to start taking away Nobel Peace Prizes from leaders of countries because they started wars etc., very few Prizes would survive. Obama got the prize and his Administration has been part of the group which has started wars in Ukraine, Syria and Libya, while also providing logistical support for the bombing of Yemen.

Will the British put Churchill on trial for killing millions in Bengal in 1940s?Will they?Churchill is a British Hero no matter how many people he killed in India, he put the interest of his country first.

Did Pakistan put Tikka Khan on trial for genocide in East Pakistan?No.He went onto become COAS.He also seemingly put the interest of his country first no matter how many died, including my own family members.

Will Egyptians denounce Nasser for his purging and crackdown including human rights abuses of his opponents esp. The islamists?



There are hundreds of such example.
 
I think the peace prize itself is debatable on whom gets it.

But that's not the point of the article, the point is more symbolic and that her true colours have come out in the last few years, even more so now by the mass exodus of this persecuted people.

What's worse she not only doesn't want to speak out, but is denying it's happening. She even called a gang raped woman a liar and a fake rapist on her Facebook page.

So the real question why she was championed as some peace activist in the first place. That's the point of the article.

She got the Nobel in 1991.Long before Rohingya issue started.Long before she had any power.
 
Forget about the symbolic peace prize and talk about the subject in hand. Is that too hard for you to grasp ?

Other than the worthiness of Kyi as a recipient of the Peace prize, the related issue is the persecution of the Rohingyas by the government headed by Kyi. That is wrong.
 
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Forget about the symbolic peace prize and talk about the subject in hand. Is that too hard for you to grasp ?

No one is defending what is happening to the Rohingyas.

But its not a open and shut case.Suu Kyi herself isnt the all powerful one.Burma had its 1st democratic election in decades couple of years back.Even then the Army stopped Suu Kyi from becoming the PM.Suu Kyi has power because the majority buddhist population support her.The Rohingya immigrants and the buddhists are in conflict and Suu Kyi may lose their support if she goes againist the Army action on Rohingyas.In one go she may lose public support and open a confrontation with the powerful army.This may again put the nascent democracy to death and bring back military rule.
 
No one is defending what is happening to the Rohingyas.

But its not a open and shut case.Suu Kyi herself isnt the all powerful one.Burma had its 1st democratic election in decades couple of years back.Even then the Army stopped Suu Kyi from becoming the PM.Suu Kyi has power because the majority buddhist population support her.The Rohingya immigrants and the buddhists are in conflict and Suu Kyi may lose their support if she goes againist the Army action on Rohingyas.In one go she may lose public support and open a confrontation with the powerful army.This may again put the nascent democracy to death and bring back military rule.

What good is democracy in burma if its built on the death and persecution of its minorities?

To not speak out against oppression is as good as being complicit to it

Doesnt she have any morals or principles or does all she care about is power and her position?
 
What good is democracy in burma if its built on the death and persecution of its minorities?

To not speak out against oppression is as good as being complicit to it

Doesnt she have any morals or principles or does all she care about is power and her position?

I dont know what she is thinking.I can only say what i heard or read.May be she believes she can support the Rohingyas when she is actually strong enough to take on the Army.

Or

May be she believes that by keeping quiet on Rohingyas and not confronting the army or her buddhist support and therefore keep democracy running in burma which in long term will benefit the majority.
 
In principle she should, but people always overrated her. Mainly so America could use her to stop/reverse Myanmar from becoming a Chinese buffer state.

The fact is you have folks like Henry Kissenger who arguably is complicit in perhaps a million deaths across various continents and yet has a Nobel Peace prize

This why we should never glorify/judge politicians until their careers are done
 
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If a sportsperson can be banned for using banned substance, illegal betting, fixing and loose their medals then why shouldn't a politician face the similar consequences?

Army maybe involve but no explanation justify killing of thousands and she has tried to justify.
 
Yes ,along with many others whom he hasn't named Obama for one.
 
No one is defending what is happening to the Rohingyas.

But its not a open and shut case.Suu Kyi herself isnt the all powerful one.Burma had its 1st democratic election in decades couple of years back.Even then the Army stopped Suu Kyi from becoming the PM.Suu Kyi has power because the majority buddhist population support her.The Rohingya immigrants and the buddhists are in conflict and Suu Kyi may lose their support if she goes againist the Army action on Rohingyas.In one go she may lose public support and open a confrontation with the powerful army.This may again put the nascent democracy to death and bring back military rule.

love how you slipped it in there thinking no one would notice
 
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Aung San Suu Kyi and Obama should return their Nobels, but can somebody tell me why the Rohingya issue is specifically flaring up now? It's been going on for at least a couple of years - was there some event over the past week that was the straw that broke the camel's back?
 
Aung San Suu Kyi and Obama should return their Nobels, but can somebody tell me why the Rohingya issue is specifically flaring up now? It's been going on for at least a couple of years - was there some event over the past week that was the straw that broke the camel's back?

pictures and videos make much more impact than stories and news reports
 
pictures and videos make much more impact than stories and news reports

Are you saying that there has been a flurry of photos/videos from Myanmar over the last few days versus the last couple of years?
 
Aung San Suu Kyi and Obama should return their Nobels, but can somebody tell me why the Rohingya issue is specifically flaring up now? It's been going on for at least a couple of years - was there some event over the past week that was the straw that broke the camel's back?

because of the sudden increase in massacres and the massive influx of refugees that is threatening to destabilise a whole region. I believe nearly 400 villages have been razed to the ground and hundreds of women and children killed in the most brutal of ways. People are fleeing in numbers not seen in generations in this part of the world. Thats why.
 
love how you slipped it in there thinking no one would notice


If you noticed then also find no usage of the word "illegal" there.Rohingyas themselves say they are not indigenious to Myanmar but have been living there for decades
 
It might be better just to reassess what the peace prize actually means. Suu Kyi was given the award for fighting for democracy rather than promoting peace in itself. Democracy is a worthy ideal, but as has already been pointed out, democracy also gave birth to the most evil leader in living history, Adolf Hitler. The world needs to redefine what the Nobel Peace prize actually means. Perhaps rename it to the Nobel Freedom Prize.
 
If you noticed then also find no usage of the word "illegal" there.Rohingyas themselves say they are not indigenious to Myanmar but have been living there for decades

Not quite.

Rohingya community has existed in Myanmar for centuries. There were Bengali settlements in Rakhine state (called Arakan then) as early as the 15th Century before the colonial era. The Bengal Sultanate ruled Arakan for years. Infact there were some Bengali Muslims in the administrations of the Arakanese Buddhist kings after winning independence from the Sultanate.

What's true is there was large scale migration under British rule from British India, especially Bengal, and Rakhine state had the largest migrant population. During WW2, communal riots erupted between Rohingyas and Rakhine Buddhists. This caused an exodus of Rohingyas from Rakhine, plus many Indians and their families who came during the colonial era left after Burmese independence from Britain in 1948. Some Rohingyas who fled the violence during WW2 later returned - yet Burmese Govt would later deem these illegals too.

After independence in 1948 they were recognised as an indigenous minority - it was the 1982 Citizenship Act under General Ne Win that took away their citizenship. The extreme Buddhist nationalists deny the Rohingyas ever were an indigenous ethnic minority and label them "illegal immigrants" as they want an ethnically pure Rakhine state.

The biggest ethnic group in Myanmar are the Bamar who dominate government and military, they share the same religion as the Rakhines in Buddhism but they are different ethnic groups. They play on anti-Rohingya xenophobia to appease the Rakhine who've agitated for independence in the past and to appease Buddhist nationalist vote bank.

Ultimately there should be a census under UN auspices, sift out those who are migrants and those who were born in Rakhine state, and give the latter citizenship.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pls stop saying Aung San Suu Kyi is "silent" over Rohingya genocide. She's not silent. She's v vocally denying it:<a href="https://t.co/GInMpD5CzR">https://t.co/GInMpD5CzR</a></p>— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) <a href="https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/905793357326282752">September 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It might be better just to reassess what the peace prize actually means. Suu Kyi was given the award for fighting for democracy rather than promoting peace in itself. Democracy is a worthy ideal, but as has already been pointed out, democracy also gave birth to the most evil leader in living history, Adolf Hitler. The world needs to redefine what the Nobel Peace prize actually means. Perhaps rename it to the Nobel Freedom Prize.
was hitler elected?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"If the political price of your ascension to the highest office in Myanmar is your silence, the price is surely too steep.” <a href="https://t.co/20wb0jZj91">pic.twitter.com/20wb0jZj91</a></p>— The Guardian (@guardian) <a href="https://twitter.com/guardian/status/906135335779926016">8 September 2017</a></blockquote>
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Nobel institute: Aung Sang Suu Kyi cannot be stripped of prize

The organization that oversees the Nobel Peace Prize said Friday the 1991 prize awarded to Myanmar’s Aung Sang Suu Kyi cannot be revoked.

Olav Njolstad, head of the Norwegian Nobel Institute, said in an email to The Associated Press that neither the will of prize founder Alfred Nobel nor the Nobel Foundation’s rules provide for the possibility of withdrawing the honor from laureates.

"It is not possible to strip a Nobel Peace Prize laureate of his or her award once bestowed," Njolstad wrote. "None of the prize awarding committees in Stockholm and Oslo has ever considered revoking a prize after it has been awarded."

An online petition signed by more than 386,000 people on Change.org is calling for Suu Kyi to be stripped of her Peace Prize over the persecution of Myanmar’s Rohingya Muslim minority.

Suu Kyi received the award for "her non-violent struggle for democracy and human rights" while standing up against military rulers.

She became the country’s de facto leader after Myanmar held its first free election in 2012 and she led her party to a landslide victory.

On Thursday, former South African archbishop Desmond Tutu urged Suu Kyi to intervene to protect the Rohingya.

In an open letter, Tutu told his fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner that it was "incongruous for a symbol of righteousness" to lead a country where violence against the Rohingya is being carried out.

Rohingya fleeing to Bangladesh have reported being ordered to leave Myanmar under the threat of death. They have described large-scale violence allegedly perpetrated by Myanmar troops and Buddhist mobs that included homes being set on fire and bullets sprayed indiscriminately.

Suu Kyi has dismissed the Rohingya crisis as a misinformation campaign.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/08/nobel-institute-aung-sang-suu-kyi-cannot-stripped-prize/
 
Nobel prize awards in non-science areas lost their credibility decades ago. Imagine: Yasser Arafat (a terrorist) has it, Churchill (someone as bad as Hitler) has it, but Mahatma Gandhi doesn't! A complete sham.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no excuse, defence, or acceptable explanation for mass murder" - William Hague on Aung San Suu Kyi <a href="https://t.co/orZ7vDKqwa">pic.twitter.com/orZ7vDKqwa</a></p>— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) <a href="https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/907495058118791168">September 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"There is no excuse, defence, or acceptable explanation for mass murder" - William Hague on Aung San Suu Kyi <a href="https://t.co/orZ7vDKqwa">pic.twitter.com/orZ7vDKqwa</a></p>— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) <a href="https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/907495058118791168">September 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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It's only acceptable if you're Modi and his fan.
 
Cancel CPEC and throw out chinese companies from pakistan too as they are also supporting Aung San Suu Kyi
 
Suu Kyi needs global support in this humanitarian crisis, not the kind of shaming she is being subjected to. It is not going to help.
 
Suu Kyi needs global support in this humanitarian crisis, not the kind of shaming she is being subjected to. It is not going to help.

The UN needs to take a lead in my view, but it seems they are going to sit on their hands until it's too late like they did in Bosnia.
 
The UN needs to take a lead in my view, but it seems they are going to sit on their hands until it's too late like they did in Bosnia.

UN is an impotent body. Any solution has to happen outside the UN. Shaming Suu Kyi, or Bangladesh or India is not going to help the situation. Those with the wherewithals and the intention to help must come forward.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hillary Clinton & Barack Obama -<br>champions of a vile, racist, lying, corrupt, genocidal Muslim-hater. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AungSanSuuKyi?src=hash">#AungSanSuuKyi</a> <a href="https://t.co/z61pQ6jnWi">pic.twitter.com/z61pQ6jnWi</a></p>— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/910212234135113729">September 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Oxford college removes painting of Aung San Suu Kyi from display

St Hugh’s puts portrait in storage after international criticism over Myanmar leader’s role in her country’s humanitarian crisis

The Oxford college where Aung San Suu Kyi studied as an undergraduate has removed her portrait from public display and placed it in storage, in a move that follows international criticism over her role in Myanmar’s humanitarian crisis.

The governing body of St Hugh’s college decided to remove the painting of the Nobel laureate from its main entrance on Thursday, days before the start of the university term and the arrival of new students.

In 2012 Aung San Suu Kyi was celebrated with an honorary doctorate from Oxford University, and held her 67th birthday party at the college where she studied politics, philosophy and economics between 1964 and 1967.


Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ves-painting-of-aung-san-suu-kyi-from-display
 
That's all the outrage industry can do. Feel self important by having a portrait removed, even though it does jack to anything.
 
To avoid situations like these, these kind of awards should be given only to dead.
 
If you noticed then also find no usage of the word "illegal" there.Rohingyas themselves say they are not indigenious to Myanmar but have been living there for decades

Isn't Burma part of Akhand Bharat like Kashmir? Where is the honour of Bharat mata? You know, Hindu ancestors and all that jazz...
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Aung San Suu Kyi won't be stripped of Nobel peace prize despite Rohingya crisis

Aung San Suu Kyi’s Nobel peace prize will not be withdrawn in the light of a United Nations report that said Myanmar’s military carried out mass killings of Muslim Rohingya.

On Monday, UN investigators said Myanmar’s military carried out killings and gang rapes with “genocidal intent”, and the commander-in-chief and five generals should be prosecuted for the gravest crimes under international law.

Aung San Suu Kyi, who leads the Myanmar government and won the Nobel peace prize in 1991 for campaigning for democracy, has been criticised for failing to speak out against the army crackdown in Rakhine state.

Since the operation began a year ago, tens of thousands of Rohingya Muslims have died and 700,000 have fled. Most are living in refugee camps in neighbouring Bangladesh.

Olav Njoelstad, the secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, said on Monday: “It’s important to remember that a Nobel prize, whether in physics, literature or peace, is awarded for some prize-worthy effort or achievement of the past.

“Aung San Suu Kyi won the Nobel peace prize for her fight for democracy and freedom up until 1991, the year she was awarded the prize.”

The rules regulating the Nobel prizes did not allow for a prize to be withdrawn, he said.

The Norwegian Nobel committee consists of a panel of five Norwegians, mostly former politicians and academics, reflecting the different forces in the Norwegian parliament. The other Nobel prizes are awarded in Sweden.

In 2017 the head of the committee, Berit Reiss-Andersen, also said it would not strip the award after previous criticism of Aung San Suu Kyi’s role in the Rohingya crisis.

“We don’t do it. It’s not our task to oversee or censor what a laureate does after the prize has been won,” she said. “The prizewinners themselves have to safeguard their own reputations.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-of-nobel-peace-prize-despite-rohingya-crisis
 
What did she ever do besides sit in her ACd home backed by US money? No idea why she deserved this prize in the first place.
 
If a sportsperson can be banned for using banned substance, illegal betting, fixing and loose their medals then why shouldn't a politician face the similar consequences?

Army maybe involve but no explanation justify killing of thousands and she has tried to justify.

excellent point. I think the UN don't want to admit they messed up, it would lead to a lack of credibility. Therefore they would rather not discuss the possibility of taking it back.
 
excellent point. I think the UN don't want to admit they messed up, it would lead to a lack of credibility. Therefore they would rather not discuss the possibility of taking it back.

UN?? How is UN related to Nobel prize?? Get your facts right kid
 
Same thing Mandela did in S Africa. Struggle against an oppressive regime.

Mandela ACTUALLY struggled. First through the country's legal systems as a black lawyer, then violently through rebellion and then he got sent to the worst prison in South Africa and still upheld his belief.

Explain to me what Aung did?
 
A nobel prize - whether she has it or not - is just a PR thing. What difference will it make to the actual people on the ground?

Secondly, why were these same people not launching similar campaigns for stripping Obama of his Lolworthy Nobel "peace" prize? I'm sure a part of the belief was that it didn't matter much to Obama so a loud campaign would be futile even if the prize was taken away eventually.

Why isn't the thought process similar to Suu Kyi?
 
Mandela ACTUALLY struggled. First through the country's legal systems as a black lawyer, then violently through rebellion and then he got sent to the worst prison in South Africa and still upheld his belief.

Explain to me what Aung did?

Just because she is a woman, her suffering seems to have somehow been minimized.
 
A nobel prize - whether she has it or not - is just a PR thing. What difference will it make to the actual people on the ground?

Secondly, why were these same people not launching similar campaigns for stripping Obama of his Lolworthy Nobel "peace" prize? I'm sure a part of the belief was that it didn't matter much to Obama so a loud campaign would be futile even if the prize was taken away eventually.

Why isn't the thought process similar to Suu Kyi?

It might be 'just be a PR thing', but it creates an impression of a great and humanitarian leader for the world's masses, and as such, ends up effectively becoming propaganda to whitewash true evil as befell the Rohingyas. If you want to call out Obama for something similar, feel free to do so, but you can't wipe out one evil by slyly deflecting to another one.
 
Suu Kyi should have ‘resigned’ on Rohingya crackdown: UN

BANGKOK: Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi should have resigned as Myanmar’s de facto leader over last year’s brutal army campaign against the Rohingya, the outgoing UN human rights chief has told the BBC.

A military crackdown in response to attacks by Rohingya militants drove around 700,000 of the Muslim minority from Rakhine state into Bangladesh, where they have given accounts of widespread rape, murder and arson targeting their villages.

Suu Kyi, once lionised as a defender of human rights, has been pilloried outside her country for failing to speak up for the Rohingya or condemn the actions of Myanmar’s army.

Read: Myanmar’s ‘ethnic cleansing’ unites Suu Kyi’s party, army and public

Instead, as streams of desperate Rohingya fled, Suu Kyi suggested an “iceberg of misinformation” had obscured the real picture of what had taken place inside Rakhine and backed the army campaign as a justified response to “terrorist” acts.

“She (Suu Kyi) was in a position to do something,” UN rights chief Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein said in the interview with the British broadcaster.

“She could have stayed quiet — or even better, she could have resigned.”

“There was no need for her to be the spokesperson of the Burmese military. She didn’t have to say this was an iceberg of misinformation. These were fabrications,” he said.

His stinging comments intensify days of damning criticism of Myanmar and its civilian and military leaders from the United Nations.

A UN report on Monday said Myanmar’s army chief Min Aung Hlaing should be prosecuted for “genocide” of the Muslim minority.

Explore: Rohingya demand justice after UN probe calls for genocide prosecution

It also criticised Suu Kyi, the country’s de facto leader and a one-time globally respected rights defender, for failing to use her “moral authority” to stem the violence.

Suu Kyi, Myanmar’s star politician who still draws widespread devotion inside the country for her long struggle for democracy, has seen her reputation shredded internationally with rights groups turning on her over a lack of public empathy for the stateless Rohingya.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1430087/suu-kyi-should-have-resigned-on-rohingya-crackdown-un
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aung San Suu Kyi once stood as a symbol of hope, courage and the undying defence of human rights in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Myanmar?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Myanmar</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/amnesty?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@amnesty</a> recognised her with our highest honour, the Ambassador of Conscience award.<br><br>Sadly, we can no longer justify this honour and today we are withdrawing the award <a href="https://t.co/gYenr0HAYg">pic.twitter.com/gYenr0HAYg</a></p>— Kumi Naidoo (@kuminaidoo) <a href="https://twitter.com/kuminaidoo/status/1062035381288361985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I have my reservations about Amnesty but Aung San Suu Kyi is definitely over rated. The military is extremely powerful in her country but she should have been at least vocal, she basically kept mum the whole time when statesmanship and empathy was expected. She is just another power hungry politician and not some symbol of hope/peace. Regarding Nobel Peace Prize, it is very controversial and hence not to be taken seriously. Past winners include Kissinger, Obama, Arafat, Shimon Peres while real peace warriors like Gandhi, Edhi have been ignored.
 
I have my reservations about Amnesty but Aung San Suu Kyi is definitely over rated. The military is extremely powerful in her country but she should have been at least vocal, she basically kept mum the whole time when statesmanship and empathy was expected. She is just another power hungry politician and not some symbol of hope/peace. Regarding Nobel Peace Prize, it is very controversial and hence not to be taken seriously. Past winners include Kissinger, Obama, Arafat, Shimon Peres while real peace warriors like Gandhi, Edhi have been ignored.

She is a leader of her country her people and her 1st responsibility is towards them. Her people will remember her long for her services long after she is gone, Amnesty international wont. Amnesty is a US based NGO.
 
Good move by Amnesty. This woman shed tears for justice for many years , she claimed to be an activist for the weak and oppressed but her true colours have been seen, she is just another power hungry politician who cares not for anyone. A disgrace of a human being.
 
She is a leader of her country her people and her 1st responsibility is towards them. Her people will remember her long for her services long after she is gone, Amnesty international wont. Amnesty is a US based NGO.

Hitler was, too.

You come up with ridiculous excuse to preserve your fragile nationalism.
 
A momentous legal confrontation will take place at the UN’s highest court on Tuesday when the Nobel peace prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi appears in person to defend Myanmar against accusations of genocide.

Once internationally feted as a human rights champion, Myanmar’s state counsellor is scheduled to lead a delegation to the international court of justice (ICJ) in The Hague.

The claim that Myanmar’s military carried out mass murder, rape and destruction of Rohingya Muslim communities has been brought by the Gambia, a west African state that belongs to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

The contrast is repeatedly drawn between Aung San Suu Kyi’s 1991 peace prize win and 15 years spent under house arrest, and her present position as chief denier that any ethnic violence has been perpetrated against the Rohingya. Last year, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum revoked her Elie Wiesel award.

Security around the court is expected to be tight. There has been speculation that undisclosed arrest warrants may have been issued in relation to other legal proceedings against Myanmar. Aung San Suu Kyi, as effective head of government, is likely to be able to claim immunity from arrest.

Aung San Suu Kyi left Yangon airport on Sunday bound for the Netherlands, where Rohingya supporters said they were planning protests outside court. The US-based Abdul Malik Mujahid, chair of the Burma Task Force, said there would be demonstrations near the Peace Palace on Tuesday and Wednesday.

“This is the last chance for her to restore her international stature,” Mujahid said. “The best thing she could say would be to admit that crimes have been committed and [that she will] cooperate. Evidence of genocide should be preserved, the Rohingya should have their citizenship restored and be allowed to return.”

Under the rules of the ICJ, member states can bring actions against fellow member states over disputes alleging breaches of international law – in this case, the 1948 convention on the prevention and punishment of the crime of genocide.

It is not the first time the tribunal, also known as the world court, has considered genocide cases – it dealt with several from the Balkan wars of the 1990s – but it is the first case involving countries that are not neighbours.

The three-day hearing in the neo-Renaissance-style Peace Palace is what is known as a provisional measures procedure. The Gambia will urge the court to make an emergency declaration that Myanmar must halt a continuing genocide, and the court will consider whether it has jurisdiction and whether there is a plausible case to answer.

This preliminary phase of the claim will not involve personal testimony from any of the estimated 700,000 Rohingya who fled to Bangladesh after the start of what are alleged to have been military clearance operations.

The Gambia’s submission states: “The genocidal acts committed during these operations were intended to destroy the Rohingya as a group, in whole or in part, by the use of mass murder, rape and other forms of sexual violence, as well as the systematic destruction by fire of their villages, often with inhabitants locked inside burning houses.”

Its arguments rely on the findings of UN investigations that described “genocidal intent” in the crimes. The UN special rapporteur Yanghee Lee related first-hand accounts of “attacks in which homes were set ablaze by security forces, in many cases with people trapped inside, and entire villages razed to the ground”.

The Gambia’s case will be opened on Tuesday by Abubacarr Marie Tambadou, the country’s attorney general and justice minister, who studied law at Warwick University in England and later served with distinction as a special assistant to the prosecutor at the international criminal tribunal for Rwanda.

The hearing, which will be livestreamed, may attract a large international audience. It will be tempting for the Gambia’s lawyers, distracted by Aung San Suu Kyi’s presence, to personalise the accusations, but the focus will remain on the Rohingya victims.

In the run-up to the hearing, members of Aung San Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy party held rallies in Myanmar’s largest city, Yangon. Among the country’s Buddhist majority, she retains overwhelming support.

The international criminal court (ICC), elsewhere in The Hague, has launched a separate investigation into alleged crimes against humanity committed by Myanmar’s leaders in forcibly deporting hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees to neighbouring Bangladesh.

An Argentinian federal court has begun receiving evidence in another case brought against Aung San Suu Kyi, on the principle that it has universal jurisdiction to consider torture cases from anywhere in the world.

Closing submissions from both sides at the ICJ will be made on Thursday. Judgment is expected to be reserved.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...or-myanmar-genocide-showdown?CMP=share_btn_wa
 
Myanmar's leader Aung San Suu Kyi has been defending her country against allegations of genocide at the UN International Court of Justice (ICJ).

The Nobel Peace Prize laureate is responding to widespread claims that Myanmar (formerly Burma) committed atrocities against Muslim Rohingya.

In her opening remarks, she called the case against Myanmar "incomplete and incorrect".

She said troubles in Rakhine, where many Rohingya lived, go back centuries.

Thousands of Rohingya were killed and more than 700,000 fled to neighbouring Bangladesh during an army crackdown in Buddhist-majority Myanmar in 2017.

Myanmar has always insisted it was tackling an extremist threat in Rakhine state, and Ms Suu Kyi maintained that stance, calling the violence an "internal armed conflict triggered by attacks on police posts".

Conceding that Myanmar's military may have used disproportionate forces at times, she said that if soldiers had committed war crimes "they will be prosecuted".

Ms Suu Kyi has been de facto leader of Myanmar since April 2016, before the alleged genocide began. She does not have control over the army but has been accused by the UN investigator of "complicity" in the military clearances.

She said Myanmar was committed to the safe repatriation of people displaced from Rakhine, and urged the court to avoid any action that could aggravate the conflict.

Why is Myanmar in court now?
The ICJ is the UN's top court, and cases must be submitted to it by countries.

This one has been brought by The Gambia, a small Muslim-majority west African nation, on behalf of dozens of other Muslim countries.

"All that The Gambia asks is that you tell Myanmar to stop these senseless killings, to stop these acts of barbarity that continue to shock our collective conscience, to stop this genocide of its own people," The Gambia's Attorney General and Justice Minister, Abubacarr M Tambadou, told the court.

His country acted after he visited a Rohingya refugee camp in Bangladesh and heard of killings, rape and torture, he told the BBC in October.

At the initial three-day hearing, The Gambia is asking the ICJ in The Hague to approve temporary measures to protect the Rohingya. But a final ruling on genocide may be years away.

What are the accusations?
At the start of 2017, there were one million Rohingya in Myanmar, most living in Rakhine state.

But Myanmar, a mainly Buddhist country, considers them illegal immigrants and denies them citizenship.

The Rohingya have long complained of persecution, and in 2017 the military - the Tatmadaw - launched a massive military operation in Rakhine.

According to The Gambia's submission to the ICJ, the military stands accused of "widespread and systematic clearance operations" against the Rohingya, beginning in October 2016 and expanding in August 2017.

The Gambia's petition alleges that the clearances were "intended to destroy the Rohingya as a group, in whole or in part", via mass murder, rape and setting fire to their buildings "often with inhabitants locked inside".

A UN fact-finding mission which investigated the allegations found such compelling evidence that it said the Burmese army must be investigated for genocide against Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine.

In August, a report accused Myanmar soldiers of "routinely and systematically employing rape, gang rape and other violent and forced sexual acts against women, girls, boys, men and transgender people".

In May, seven Myanmar soldiers jailed for killing 10 Rohingya men and boys were released early from prison. Myanmar says its military operations targeted Rohingya militants, and the military has previously cleared itself of wrongdoing.

What is Aung San Suu Kyi's role?
The case is being brought against Myanmar, not Aung San Suu Kyi.

The ICJ cannot punish individuals in the way that, for example, the International Criminal Court can (separately, the ICC is investigating the Rohingya case).

But the case is, to some extent, about the 1991 Nobel Peace Prize winner herself.

Is refugee crisis 'textbook ethnic cleansing'?
Ms Suu Kyi has been de facto leader of Myanmar since April 2016, before the alleged genocide began. She does not have control over the army but has been accused by the UN investigator of "complicity" in the military clearances.


Media captionHow did this peace icon end up at a genocide trial?
"I implore you to open your eyes... and please use your moral authority, before it is too late," the investigator, Yanghee Lee, said in September.

Ms Suu Kyi confirmed in November that she would personally lead her country's defence at The Hague - in her role as foreign affairs minister - alongside "prominent international lawyers".

What is the likely outcome of this case?
For now, The Gambia is just asking the court to impose "provisional measures" to protect the Rohingya in Myanmar and elsewhere from further threats or violence. These will be legally binding.

To rule that Myanmar has committed genocide, the court will have to determine that the state acted "with intent to destroy in whole or in part" the Rohingya minority.

Even then the ICJ has no way of enforcing the outcome - and neither Aung San Suu Kyi nor the generals would automatically be arrested and put on trial.

But a guilty ruling could lead to sanctions, and would cause significant reputational and economic damage to Myanmar.

What is the current situation for the Rohingya?
Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya have fled Myanmar since the military operations began.


Media captionJonathan Head visits the Hla Poe Kaung transit camp, which is built on the site of two demolished Rohingya villages
As of 30 September, there were 915,000 Rohingya refugees in camps in Bangladesh. Almost 80% arrived between August and December 2017, and in March this year, Bangladesh said it would accept no more.

In August, Bangladesh set up a voluntary return scheme - but not a single Rohingya chose to go.

Bangladesh plans to relocate 100,000 refugees to Bhasan Char, a small island in the Bay of Bengal, but some 39 aid agencies and human rights groups have opposed the idea.

In September, the BBC's Jonathan Head reported that police barracks, government buildings and refugee relocation camps had been built on the sites of former Rohingya villages in Myanmar.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50741094
 
She is a leader of her country her people and her 1st responsibility is towards them. Her people will remember her long for her services long after she is gone, Amnesty international wont. Amnesty is a US based NGO.

Of course, but the issue here is she was lauded as some great proponent of peace which she clearly is not.
 
Shameful her awards haven't been taken away from her. Disgraceful human.
 
She has sacrificed her international reputation so that democracy can take shape in Burma. Her other choice was to get accolades from international pressure groups, but losing the support of locals and losing her bargaining power agains the military. I can see why she decided to become an apologist.
 
A power hungry politician like Aung doesnt really care about this prize. But I think she should be taken off the list of this prestigious recipient
 
The UN General Assembly has approved a resolution condemning human rights abuses against Muslim Rohingya and other minorities in Myanmar.

The resolution also calls on Myanmar to stop the incitement of hatred against the Rohingya and other minorities.

Thousands of Rohingya were killed and more than 700,000 fled to neighbouring Bangladesh during an army crackdown in the Buddhist-majority country in 2017.

Myanmar (formerly Burma) insists it was tackling an extremist threat.

Earlier this month, the country's leader Aung San Suu Kyi rejected allegations of genocide at the UN International Court of Justice (ICJ).

The democracy icon who fell from grace
Rohingya homes destroyed for government facilities
The UN resolution passed on Friday expressed alarm at the continuing influx of Rohingya to Bangladesh over the past four decades "in the aftermath of atrocities committed by the security and armed forces of Myanmar".

It highlighted the findings of an independent international mission "of gross human rights violations and abuses suffered by Rohingya Muslims and other minorities" by Myanmar's security forces, which the mission described as "the gravest crimes under international law".

The resolution called on Myanmar to protect all groups and to ensure justice for all violations of human rights. It was passed by a total of 134 countries in the 193-member world body, with nine votes against and 28 abstaining.

UN General Assembly resolutions are not legally binding but can reflect world opinion.

The UN ambassador for Myanmar, Hau Do Suan, called the resolution "another classic example of double-standards [and] selective and discriminatory application of human rights norms".

He said it was designed to exert "unwanted political pressure" on Myanmar and did not attempt to find a solution to "the complex situation in Rakhine state".

The Gambia, a small Muslim-majority west African nation, brought the Rohingya case to the ICJ on behalf of dozens of other Muslim countries.

Addressing the court earlier this month, Nobel Peace Prize laureate Aung San Suu Kyi called the case against Myanmar "incomplete and incorrect". She said troubles in Rakhine, where many Rohingya lived, went back centuries.

Ms Suu Kyi said the violence was an "internal armed conflict" triggered by Rohingya militant attacks on government security posts. She conceded that Myanmar's military might have used disproportionate force at times, but said that if soldiers had committed war crimes "they will be prosecuted".

What are the accusations?
At the start of 2017, there were a million Rohingya in Myanmar, most living in Rakhine state. Myanmar, a mainly Buddhist country, regards the Rohingya as illegal immigrants and denies them citizenship.

The Rohingya have long complained of persecution, and in 2017 Myanmar's military - the Tatmadaw - launched a massive military operation in Rakhine.

According to The Gambia's submission to the ICJ, the clearances were "intended to destroy the Rohingya as a group, in whole or in part", via mass murder, rape and setting fire to their buildings "often with inhabitants locked inside".

Is refugee crisis 'textbook ethnic cleansing'?
A UN fact-finding mission which investigated the allegations found such compelling evidence that it said the Burmese army must be investigated for genocide against Rohingya Muslims in Rakhine.

In August, a report accused Myanmar soldiers of "routinely and systematically employing rape, gang rape and other violent and forced sexual acts against women, girls, boys, men and transgender people".

In May, seven Myanmar soldiers jailed for killing 10 Rohingya men and boys were released early from prison. Myanmar says its military operations targeted Rohingya militants, and the military has previously cleared itself of wrongdoing.

What is the current situation for the Rohingya?
Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya have fled Myanmar since the military operations began.

As of 30 September, there were 915,000 Rohingya refugees in camps in Bangladesh. Almost 80% arrived between August and December 2017, and in March this year, Bangladesh said it would accept no more.

In August, Bangladesh set up a voluntary return scheme - but not a single Rohingya person chose to go.

Bangladesh plans to relocate 100,000 refugees to Bhasan Char, a small island in the Bay of Bengal, but some 39 aid agencies and human rights groups have opposed the idea.

In September, the BBC's Jonathan Head reported that police barracks, government buildings and refugee relocation camps had been built on the sites of former Rohingya villages in Myanmar.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50931565
 
If only Hitler had a good spokesman like this vile woman than history could well have been different today!
 
Almost 300 Rohingya Muslims have been found on a beach in Indonesia after spending six months at sea, local officials have said.

The refugees were spotted in a large wooden boat by local fisherman before landing on Ujung Blang beach in Aceh province in the early hours of Monday, said police.

The group, thought to have been on the water for six months, included 181 women and 14 children, according to a police chief in Aceh.

Junaidi Yahya, head of the Red Cross in the city of Lhokseumawe, said they are being held in a temporary location.

It comes after another boat of 94 Rohingya Muslims were found off the shore of Aceh in June.

Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya Muslims have fled Buddhist-majority Myanmar due to a military crackdown.

Many live in densely packed refugee camps in Bangladesh, but others regularly travel by boat to countries in South East Asia.

Major concerns have been raised about coronavirus outbreaks in the Bangladeshi camps, which are overcrowded and suffer poor hygiene levels.

https://news.sky.com/story/almost-3...nesian-beach-after-six-months-at-sea-12065663
 
Aung San Suu Kyi has failed as a leader. She definitely doesn't deserve the nobel peace prize.
 
The European Parliament has removed Myanmar's civilian leader Aung San Suu Kyi from the "Sakharov Prize community" because of her "acceptance" of state crimes against the Rohingya community.

The EU assembly awarded the former democracy campaigner its top human rights prize in 1990, a year before she received the Nobel Peace Prize, but she will no longer be able to take part in events for laureates.

A source close to the EP said the prize had been awarded for Aung San Suu Kyi's work before 1990 and could not be withdrawn but that this exclusion, made on Thursday, was the strongest sanction available to MEPs.

More than 700,000 Rohingya, a mostly Muslim minority, fled to neighbouring Bangladesh after a bloody crackdown in 2017 by the Myanmar military, which UN investigators have concluded was carried out with "genocidal intent".

Myanmar has refused accusations of genocide and most allegations of targeted military-led violence, saying that its actions were meant to protect the country against Rohingya "militants".

In a speech in December at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) that lasted about 30 minutes, Aung San Suu Kyi defended her country's military against allegations of genocide, but she did not use the word Rohingya once, in a 3,379-word speecj.

Critics said her refusal was part of Myanmar's attempt to strip the minority of their identity and rights.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...-erupts-beirut-port-area-200910104103251.html
 
Theres a new bbc documentary on her With accounts from friends n close associates

Nothing new though A few defending her The majority lambasting her power hungry behaviour
 
Myanmar election: Aung San Suu Kyi hopes to hold power as country votes

Millions have voted in Myanmar's general election, just the second since military rule ended in 2011.

It comes five years after Aung San Suu Kyi won a landslide victory and entered into a power-sharing agreement with generals who still hold huge power.

Ms Suu Kyi remains hugely popular in Myanmar and is expected to win.

But the Nobel Peace Prize winner and global icon has dramatically fallen from grace internationally for her response to the Rohingya crisis.

Hundreds of thousands of Muslim Rohingyas fled an army crackdown in 2017 in what the UN described as ethnic cleansing. The army in Myanmar said it was targeting militants.

Observers have questioned the credibility of the election because of the disenfranchisement of virtually all Rohingya. Voting was cancelled in large parts of conflict-hit states including Rakhine, Shan and Kachin - home to many ethnic minorities - as officials cited security concerns.

Ms Suu Kyi, 75, cast her ballot last week when the country held advance voting for the elderly in a bid to protect them against the coronavirus.

The main challenger to her National League for Democracy (NLD) party is the military-backed Union Solidarity and Development Party, which along with 23 other opposition parties had called for the vote to be postponed because of a surge in Covid-19 cases.

But in an October broadcast Ms Suu Kyi said the election was "more important than Covid". She has urged people to vote as she tries to defend her party's absolute majority.

Polls opened at 06:00 local time (00:00 GMT) and closed at 16:00 (10:00 GMT), though people still queuing to cast their ballots at that time were allowed to vote.

Why can't the Rohingya vote?

Myanmar's minority Rohingya population was stripped of voting rights ahead of the 2015 general election after the temporary documents many held were invalidated.

More than 740,000 have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh since the 2017 army crackdown, but several hundred thousand still live in western Rakhine state.

In September the UN human rights investigator to Myanmar said the election would fail to be free and fair because of the disenfranchisement of the mostly Muslim minority.

The Rohingya, who trace back their ancestry in Rakhine for centuries, are described as one of the world's most persecuted minorities.

But the government of Buddhist-majority Myanmar does not recognise the word Rohingya, denies the minority citizenship and derides them as "illegal immigrants" from Bangladesh.

In January the UN's top court ordered the country to take measures to protect the Rohingya from genocide.

Ms Suu Kyi has rejected the genocide accusations while saying that war crimes may have been committed.

Earlier this year six of at least a dozen Rohingya who applied to run as candidates in the election were barred from standing.

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-54820946
 
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