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Thankfully we don't have to play India in Test cricket

Devadwal said:
Pakistan were whitewash against minnows Bangladesh at home but they think they can beat india.

A solidarity win against England after more than 3 years tell a lots about how they becomes another minnows team .
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If transitivity worked in cricket or any sports, there would be no point in playing matches. If A defeated B and B defeated C, C wouldn’t even bother playing A.

India would start as heavy favorites for sure, but they are not guaranteed to win especially on turning tracks. The gap between two teams is reduced significantly in low scoring affairs across all formats.

Indian fans have a hard time stepping out of their contrived world. They wouldn’t have believed in a million years that NZ can skittle them for 46 in India just like they wouldn’t believe in a million years that Pakistan can actually compete with India in a Test match on turning tracks.
 
For Pakistan, regular series with India are essential - India already has mega series with the other 'big two' that give them a milestone to aim at. Pakistan, has the tour of England? which is never 'regular' anyway.

Doesn't matter if we get soundly beaten, it would be very useful for us to play them in a series, say every three years - a test each at the UAE venues for example, followed by 3 ODIs and 5T20s. Contests between India/Pak would be well attended in the UAE and not just by Indians and Pakistanis..

Amid the circus, to have competent batters like Ghulam and Shakeel in the ranks is good to see. We can chuckle all we like at Nauman's age but the man knows how to bowl. We could well give India a game.
 
Mamoon said:
If transitivity worked in cricket or any sports, there would be no point in playing matches. If A defeated B and B defeated C, C wouldn’t even bother playing A.

India would start as heavy favorites for sure, but they are not guaranteed to win especially on turning tracks. The gap between two teams is reduced significantly in low scoring affairs across all formats.

Indian fans have a hard time stepping out of their contrived world. They wouldn’t have believed in a million years that NZ can skittle them for 46 in India just like they wouldn’t believe in a million years that Pakistan can actually compete with India in a Test match on turning tracks.
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This isn't some big revelation. No only is there a big deficit in skill and fitness but also mentally which I feel is the biggest hindrance.

Pak cricket in its current state is a mere shadow of its former self and can't see this changing anytime soon. Of course, the big three have monopolised things for themselves so its no longer a level playing field.
 
For many years, Pakistan was a better team than Indian team. I don't think any "real" Indian cricket fans wanted cricket ties to end. Similarly, now when India is a much better team than Pakistan, I still want India vs Pakistan matches to be played on regular basis. Regardless of the strength of the teams, rivalry should continue.

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W63L35 said:
For many years, Pakistan was a better team than Indian team. I don't think any "real" Indian cricket fans wanted cricket ties to end. Similarly, now when India is a much better team than Pakistan, I still want India vs Pakistan matches to be played on regular basis. Regardless of the strength of the teams, rivalry should continue.

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Yes, real Indian cricket fans eagerly want the resumption of the India-Pakistan bilateral series.
:inti
 
India is lucky they didn’t get play Pakistan in the 2012-2016 period when Pakistan had the likes of Younis, Misbah, Yasir, Ajmal, Hafeez, Sarfaraz and Azhar.

They would have been owned like they did in the 2012-13 ODI series. The reputation of their bang average, overrated cricketers would have been down the drain.
 
Mamoon said:
India is lucky they didn’t get play Pakistan in the 2012-2016 period when Pakistan had the likes of Younis, Misbah, Yasir, Ajmal, Hafeez, Sarfaraz and Azhar.

They would have been owned like they did in the 2012-13 ODI series. The reputation of their bang average, overrated cricketers would have been down the drain.
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Can't even win against minnows Bangladesh and thinking about beating india. As I said pakistan fans are most delusion cricket fans in the world.
 
Devadwal said:
Can't even win against minnows Bangladesh and thinking about beating india. As I said pakistan fans are most delusion cricket fans in the world.
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The 2012-2016 Pakistan team became number one in the world. Educate yourself before talking.
 
Mamoon said:
The 2012-2016 Pakistan team became number one in the world. Educate yourself before talking.
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For a few days. Did you know that how many year's india were number 1 test team in the world . Educated yourself.
 
Devadwal said:
For a few days. Did you know that how many year's india were number 1 test team in the world . Educated yourself.
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Only because they avoided playing Pakistan in that period.

Indian fans are comedians. The delusion is laughable. If this NZ series didn’t happen, they would have never believed that India could have lost it. Similarly, they are refusing to entertain the possibility that India could have lost to Pakistan in the 2012-16 period.
 
Mamoon said:
The 2012-2016 Pakistan team became number one in the world. Educate yourself before talking.
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Don't need to hark back to the past. Say it like it is, here and now:

Pakistan 2024 will CLOBBER India 2024.
 
Devadwal said:
Can't even win against minnows Bangladesh and thinking about beating india. As I said pakistan fans are most delusion cricket fans in the world.
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India are not that great in Test format anymore. Pakistan can beat India and so can any team from Top 6.
 
Varun said:
Don't need to hark back to the past. Say it like it is, here and now:

Pakistan 2024 will CLOBBER India 2024.
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I wouldn’t agree. It would be a close affair on turning pitches, but India should win without much trouble on flat pitches and seaming/green wickets.
 
Mamoon said:
India is lucky they didn’t get play Pakistan in the 2012-2016 period when Pakistan had the likes of Younis, Misbah, Yasir, Ajmal, Hafeez, Sarfaraz and Azhar.

They would have been owned like they did in the 2012-13 ODI series. The reputation of their bang average, overrated cricketers would have been down the drain.
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You wrote this on this thread itself :ROFLMAO:

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W63L35 said:
For many years, Pakistan was a better team than Indian team. I don't think any "real" Indian cricket fans wanted cricket ties to end. Similarly, now when India is a much better team than Pakistan, I still want India vs Pakistan matches to be played on regular basis. Regardless of the strength of the teams, rivalry should continue.

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how has that worked out in the premier event of Cricket i.e. the world cup .... could you please post that stat similarly color coded ? Thanks !
 
think india are still the stronger team, but its obvious the games would be a lot closer, however given the magnitude of such games if they were to resume, i think the surfaces would be a lot more docile, and there would be a lot of draws like back in the day pak india games.

whereas a year ago id say it was 85-15 in indias favours, id say its more 65-35 now, main difference is still bumrah, as hes the only test quality pacer between both sides, and on any kinda sporting pitch hed make a massive difference. over a three match series id expected india to win 1-0 in a three match series, home or away.
 
shaz619 said:
With Babar Azam & Shaheen, thankfully you didn’t have to play.

Without Babar Azam, Shaheen & Rizwan, now there is a new hope to play India.
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Riz is playing a key role for pakistan in the england series
 
uppercut said:
how has that worked out in the premier event of Cricket i.e. the world cup .... could you please post that stat similarly color coded ? Thanks !
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Just look at my user-id that I made in 2006.
 
W63L35 said:
Just look at my user-id that I made in 2006.
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Just so you know world cups happen ever 4 years ONLY ... therefore unless you have discovered time travel the current score is in my signature. Thats the real deal. But since you are a image person here you go ... I even color coded it using a color thats more appealing to you.

Here you go ... pay close attention to the Green square. :cigar



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uppercut said:
Just so you know world cups happen ever 4 years ONLY ... therefore unless you have discovered time travel the current score is in my signature. Thats the real deal. But since you are a image person here you go ... I even color coded it using a color thats more appealing to you.

Here you go ... pay close attention to the Green square. :cigar



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Good for you!! I am glad, this image might lessen the pain NZ has caused in last few day!
 
It pains me to see how Babar and his mafia brought us to such a low level that we saw such threads being made.
 
India will be thinking the same thing about Kiwis at the moment. Dominated the home for years but got smoked by them like they were nobodies.

Pakistan would love to play India because I don't think anybody does now.
 
Paks chances of beating India in any cricket these days is just like there World Cup record chances v Ind.. 0.01%
 
Can we please schedule a Pak India test series. Please please pretty please.
 
On these dustbowls noman chacha and Sajid tinda will be better than Indian spinners.

Pakistan can certainly beat India in India on these dustbowls.
 
During commentary for Australia's first ODI against Pakistan at the MCG:

"I would want to see a Test series between India and Pakistan," Vaughan remarked

The conversation took an interesting turn when Vaughan claimed, "Pakistan can now beat India on the turners," referencing India’s recent struggles against spin at home.

Akram echoed the sentiment, adding, "Pakistan has a chance to beat India in Tests now on a spinning track. They have been hammered by New Zealand 3-0 at home."
 
After seeing the performance of India against Australia in Australian conditions, I would love even more for Pakistan to face India.
 
BouncerGuy said:
After seeing the performance of India against Australia in Australian conditions, I would love even more for Pakistan to face India.
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Cricket is poorer for the situation between Bharat and Pakistan politically.

We have missed out on some great cricket.
 
Given the state of both Test teams. I think we can see good competitive series if they play at a neutral venue.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Given the state of both Test teams. I think we can see good competitive series if they play at a neutral venue.
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couple of old men screwing up India in back to back series won't make India suddenly a hopeless team. There is no way Pakistan is goign to thrash Australia in Australia even in one test. INdia also thrashed SA at New lands in one of the test. Once they get rid of the deadwoods they will be back to their best. Also there will be a small period where they might produce inconsistent results. But India's bench strength is way too good to be stuck in transition for far too long. Pakistan's transition started long back as soon as Younis Khan, Misbah left. Pakistan should be dominating now. But they are ranked 8th in the ICC table.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
couple of old men screwing up India in back to back series won't make India suddenly a hopeless team. There is no way Pakistan is goign to thrash Australia in Australia even in one test. INdia also thrashed SA at New lands in one of the test. Once they get rid of the deadwoods they will be back to their best. Also there will be a small period where they might produce inconsistent results. But India's bench strength is way too good to be stuck in transition for far too long. Pakistan's transition started long back as soon as Younis Khan, Misbah left. Pakistan should be dominating now. But they are ranked 8th in the ICC table.
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Nice way to cope.

We shall wait for India's rise but in the meantime I suppose both teams can learn from their Australia your defeats and home whitewash
 
jnaveen1980 said:
But Bangladesh has regualrly been whitewashed lol India has won 17 series in a row at home. NExt best? 8? 7? So we know how to win home series.
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Latest form reflects the quality of the side.

Hammering from a ordinary kiwis at home

And now Australia suggests india are in decline.
 
India is a mediocre team with mediocre players.

They won lots of home tests due to doctored pitches where an awful bowler like akshar patel or whatever his name averages like 15 i guess.

Even at home they got humiliated like no one else in the hands of mediocre New Zealand team.

Apart from ugliest action guy and that opener jaiswal indian players are just average.
 
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Should be a closer contest now. Until a few months ago , this would've been s thrashing for Pakistan.

But India in transition and Pakistan looking stronger than ever, this should be quite a contest
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Should be a closer contest now. Until a few months ago , this would've been s thrashing for Pakistan.

But India in transition and Pakistan looking stronger than ever, this should be quite a contest
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naah

Ind are in transition but still stronger than Pak. This set of Pak players get whitewashed multiple times every year

2019 - SA 0-3, Aus 0-2
2020 - NZ 0-2
2022 - Eng 0-3
2023 - Aus 0-3
2024 - Bang 0-2, SA 0-2

So 7 whitewashes by these same set of players
 
followed said:
India is a mediocre team with mediocre players.

They won lots of home tests due to doctored pitches where an awful bowler like akshar patel or whatever his name averages like 15 i guess.

Even at home they got humiliated like no one else in the hands of mediocre New Zealand team.

Apart from ugliest action guy and that bagdi opener jaiswal indian players are just average.
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Paksitan is not even mediocre.

Get humiliated at home by Bangladesh. Keeps getting humiliated away for decades now.

ALL Pakistani players are poor. Not a single good player.
 
BouncerGuy said:
After seeing the performance of India against Australia in Australian conditions, I would love even more for Pakistan to face India.
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Naah lol.

Paksitan would be whitewashed bad.

Pak themselves were whitewashed in Oz where India won and drew a test

Whitewashed in SA where India drew

Whitewashed by Bang whom India whitewashed
 
India are in transition but they would whitewash Pakistan anywhere in the world. This Pakistan team racks one whitewash a year every year and are poor in ICC tournaments too with group stage exits.
 
saimayubera said:
Paksitan is not even mediocre.

Get humiliated at home by Bangladesh. Keeps getting humiliated away for decades now.

ALL Pakistani players are poor. Not a single good player.
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Lol if Pakistan starts doctoring pitches like they did against England. Pakistan would be unbeatable just like Indian mediocre team.

Sajid and Nauman chacha are much better spinners than india's jadejas and others
 
saimayubera said:
Naah lol.

Paksitan would be whitewashed bad.

Pak themselves were whitewashed in Oz where India won and drew a test

Whitewashed in SA where India drew

Whitewashed by Bang whom India whitewashed
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WHy India is afraid then...come whitewash Pakistan...simple
 
followed said:
Lol if Pakistan starts doctoring pitches like they did against England. Pakistan would be unbeatable just like Indian mediocre team.

Sajid and Nauman chacha are much better spinners than india's jadejas and other losers.
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Your batters make a clown of themselves whenever they face Kuldeep Yadav on even a flat ODI patta lol.

Now imagine them facing him on a rank turner now that he will make our starting XI. Nothing but humiliating clean sweep for you guys. Sit down.
 
Pakistan shouldn’t play India in any bilateral series or ICC event.BCCI has been trying to destroy Pakistani cricket for many years.
 
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