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The 3rd Test between Australia and India ends in a draw with India on 334/5

Buffet said:
He may get out and sledging would have done its job. Sledging will help only Aus here.
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whatever it is , this day 5 has been entertaining especially the way indian batsmen fought back
 
This blockathan will severely drain the Australian pace attack going into the final test. Australia should consider an extra seamer for that game
 
I am not sure if the last two Tests have been a bigger nightmare for Australian players or Pakistani fans.
 
Starc is on.. Get one and he will get all of them. Next 3 overs....
 
Yk313 said:
I am glad he was not. Good to see the contrast and where he truly stands.
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I wish someone can do a comparison of his wickets, average, strike rate prior to sandpaper and after sandpaper
 
Slog said:
At this point I think sage to say Aussies don’t look like like taking a wicket
Great effort so far
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Of their own accord i.e. without a batsman’s lapse or error? They haven’t really looked to take a wicket in that manner regularly for a while now. Not just today. Not just this series.
 
Mamoon said:
I am not sure if the last two Tests have been a bigger nightmare for Australian players or Pakistani fans.
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Hey buddy, you just ran away from another challenging discussion again. Hope you’re feeling alright... I don’t usually like to hurt people’s feelings, just that of hypocrites and defeatists :(
 
Yk313 said:
As it should be. They used a mixture of skill, pitches, physical hostility and colourful “quips” historically to make AUS a difficult touring nation.

The physical part and language have been bolted shut following Sandpaper gate. The pitches in AUS have led to their pacers and I think even Steve Smith (cannot recall) saying on record that they are too flat. Skill wise I prefer to not engage in discussions about their supposed “ATG” attack.

AUS over the last few years especially, notwithstanding that season by Mitchell Johnson, has become a place for attritional cricket. Wickets fall just as often if not far more often due to batting lapses than elaborate movement or bounce.

IND have applied themselves well.
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This Australian attack is good but they haven't achieved anything historic till now to be regarded as one of the greatest Australian attack by their own former test players,.

Still a lot to achieve before labeling them one of the greatest
 
JaDed said:
Lets not be timid either.. if he can manage his focus he can reply as much as he wants, I always felt the same with Kohlis..
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First draw test then we have enough time to give them back before gabba test
 
Slog said:
Paine and Labushagne are too much nice guys. They need a Warner to be sledging if they want to get sth out of that
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Nope. Sandpaper gate brought unrivalled scrutiny into their culture alongside stories of the mental toll of “winning at all costs”. Even those who want to bare their true selves are restricted to posting docile and family orientated videos on TikTok.

Still, I feel the mask will slip sooner or later.
 
Buffet said:
He may get out and sledging would have done its job. Sledging will help only Aus here.
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Paine getting trapped in his own sledging and probably dropped the last chance by dropping a catch they had of winning this match
 
Pain having horrible day, first dropping Pant twice and now this. A day he would never want to remember.
 
How is a player like Tim, with stats not even worth Aus C side, even in the test team let alone the captain.
 
Paine dropped the match right there

Also was a regulation catch
 
GenericBrand said:
How is a player like Tim, with stats not even worth Aus C side, even in the test team let alone the captain.
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Because the two best players including captain were banned at a time when the rest of the batting lineup was full of totally inexperienced rookies and Australia don’t have a culture of appointing bowlers as captains
 
I remember Mitchell Johnson mentioning that drop in pitches in Australia played a factor in his decision to quit international cricket as pitches in Australia had become way to flat, batsmen friendly compared to the past
 
Can not believe it. Horrible time to drop such a simple one.

It would have spiced it up.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Hey buddy, you just ran away from another challenging discussion again. Hope you’re feeling alright... I don’t usually like to hurt people’s feelings, just that of hypocrites and defeatists :(
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Was just a simple constructive question and still waiting for a simple constructive answer. Maybe you’ve “said all you need to say” again like last time, so you don’t open the thread anymore :genius we all have our coping mechanisms...
 
Tim paine doesn't even have a century,even Healy,Rodney Marsh,Haddin who are pure wk have scored centuries
 
shortbread said:
Had Misbah played a similar dogged innings, people still would have been on his case!
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If Misbah had managed to draw a test in Aus for PCT believe me 90% of PPers wouldn't have questioned it..esp ifit takes the series down to the wire..
 
Vihari not able to run had made sure that one batsman is facing the same bowler. It could be an advantage in most cases for bowlers to bowl to the same batsman, but here I think it's helping Indians.
 
ODI is superior to test match. There is nothing skillful or artistic about blocking the entire game.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Hey buddy, you just ran away from another challenging discussion again. Hope you’re feeling alright... I don’t usually like to hurt people’s feelings, just that of hypocrites and defeatists :(
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I find you delusional and lacking cricketing acumen, so I am not sure which discussing you are referring to. What is the one where you were trying to prove that LQ has a world class T20 bowling unit?
 
The double whammy for Aussies is that the bowlers will be tired af for next test
 
Geil said:
This Australian attack is good but they haven't achieved anything historic till now to be regarded as one of the greatest Australian attack by their own former test players,.

Still a lot to achieve before labeling them one of the greatest
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Don’t think there is much of a discussion in skill level either:

Starc has been underbowled by his captain regularly now. They do not seem to have a replacement on the bench.

Hazlewood and Cummins can become fairly homogenous at times in terms of the type of bowlers they are.

These kind of attritional performances are always difficult to deliver in any part of the world. But I would argue that they are not harder to do in AUS (for a well prepared team willing to apply itself) than in say ENG, NZD or SAF. If anything, you can expect elaborate movement in ENG/NZD and elaborate bounce in SAF to get unplayable balls across 5 days in those countries making such innings a matter of luck as well.

Talking from the PoV of Asian teams going abroad hence excluding IND, PAK, UAE which I think have their own challenges with pitches breaking.
 
Ashwin to Paine - "Just like you come to India which will be your last series" after Paine said "Can't wait for Gabba".
 
BDfanforever said:
ODI is superior to test match. There is nothing skillful or artistic about blocking the entire game.
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Would have been a fine comment of you had included "in my opinion" somewhere in there. Otherwise, not the smartest thing to say.
 
the so called upcoming greatest Australian attack of cummins,starc,hazelwood & lyon cannot take 20 wickets bowling in their own backyard then how could one expects that with warner and smith playing together in 2018 0r in the current series would make difference and beat the indian side

its not batting but its the bowling that wins u test matches and Australian bowler had a perfect situation on day 5 and couldnt deliver the performance which was needed
 
Slog said:
The double whammy for Aussies is that the bowlers will be tired af for next test
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That would had mattered had we not got ourselves injured or missing players :
1.Ishant
2.Shami
3.Umesh
4.Kohli
5.Jadeja
6.Vihari(next match)
7.Ashwin (tentative)

Not included bhuvi..

I mean loll......
 
Slog said:
Because the two best players including captain were banned at a time when the rest of the batting lineup was full of totally inexperienced rookies and Australia don’t have a culture of appointing bowlers as captains
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At the time that was fine, but those two players are back. Tim doesn't even warrant a spot in the team as WK batsman.
 
Buffet said:
Vihari not able to run had made sure that one batsman is facing the same bowler. It could be an advantage in most cases for bowlers to bowl to the same batsman, but here I think it's helping Indians.
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Have you notice some pattern by Indian Batsman ?
Vihari for fast bowler
Ash for Lyon
 
Geil said:
the so called upcoming greatest Australian attack of cummins,starc,hazelwood & lyon cannot take 20 wickets bowling in their own backyard then how could one expects that with warner and smith playing together in 2018 0r in the current series would make difference and beat the indian side

its not batting but its the bowling that wins u test matches and Australian bowler had a perfect situation on day 5 and couldnt deliver the performance which was needed
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I wouldn't pick on Aus bowlers. Just enjoy the great fightback. It great due to bowling Aus has as well.
 
Snowflake said:
Would have been a fine comment of you had included "in my opinion" somewhere in there. Otherwise, not the smartest thing to say.
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This is true color of test. Blocking the entire game. There is a reason why Americans never picked up the game.
 
BDfanforever said:
ODI is superior to test match. There is nothing skillful or artistic about blocking the entire game.
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It matters in greater context of the game-- if we draw this it helps us for the series and World championship..
 
JaDed said:
That would had mattered had we not got ourselves injured or missing players :
1.Ishant
2.Shami
3.Umesh
4.Kohli
5.Jadeja
6.Vihari(next match)
7.Ashwin (tentative)

Not included bhuvi..

I mean loll......
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Bhuvi would be smashed around on these pitches and I don’t even know the last time he played.

India clearly have done well without the guys and actually better considering result of the first test.

I think as far as strength in depth is concerned, india is kuch stronger
 
JaDed said:
If Misbah had managed to draw a test in Aus for PCT believe me 90% of PPers wouldn't have questioned it..esp ifit takes the series down to the wire..
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Depends. I think if PAK would have pulled off the miraculous chase in Brisbane in 2016, a lot would have been forgiven.

But I loathe these kind of miraculous performances because they brush other things under the carpet and gloss over cracks.

IND have their own issues to address, but best done after the game. If this match becomes a benchmark for thr wrong reasons and people forget about the middle order fragility etc, then that would be poor.
 
Devadwal said:
Have you notice some pattern by Indian Batsman ?
Vihari for fast bowler
Ash for Lyon
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Well, it's going to happen because they won't take runs. I am not sure anything intentional here about facing certain bowlers. Ashwin has faced a lot...
 
BDfanforever said:
This is true color of test. Blocking the entire game. There is a reason why Americans never picked up the game.
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Americans never picked up Soccer either lol..and this is not the reason they didn't pick this up , and are you saying baseball is more entertaining than Cricket?
 
Savak said:
I wish someone can do a comparison of his wickets, average, strike rate prior to sandpaper and after sandpaper
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And also against top 7 vs tailenders.

I feel he feasts on lower order players alot and is pretty average against top-order.
 
This is what the rest of the Pakistan tail should've done with only 30 overs left after Fawad and Rizwan battled it out in the middle for most of the day.
 
JaDed said:
Americans never picked up Soccer either lol..and this is not the reason they didn't pick this up , and are you saying baseball is more entertaining than Cricket?
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Americans do well in soccer. Regularly make WC knockouts which is amazing considering it’s not even top 3 sport here.

Also the general population knows and understands the rules more or less and around WC they atleast have an idea of it happening
 
BDfanforever said:
This is true color of test. Blocking the entire game. There is a reason why Americans never picked up the game.
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This is one of the colors of Test cricket.

Also, I wouldn't use Americans' preference for a sport as a barometer for anything.
 
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