The curse of the "two-match Test series"

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When and who will rid us of this abomination?

What is the point of such a series - have Cricket administrators lost their marbles for good?

Or is this some kind of subliminal message for those opposing Big 3?
 
it was PCB who had asked for a two match series initially it was 3 test matches.
 
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I think its the repurrcussion.

Today only i read another article where Lorgat i think talked about 5 test matches with Aus/Eng/Ind and 2 with the rest.Same is happening here.

Mig bhai can you tell us if hosting matches in UAE is so costly that PCB is cutting down matches to bring down costs?
 
PCB decided this. Not retaliation by big 3. To op: PCB never had its marbles to begin with so they haven't really lost them.
 
I really despise these 2 test series and that too against the tougher oppositions. I mean they played 3 matches against SriLanka but only two against SA and Australia.

1-1 level. Where is the decider????????????????????????????????
 
You i also hate the 2 Test drama but you have to understand PCB's approach :inti saves money for some Bombai Biryani
 
Just reverse the situation..australia agree to a 3 test series vs pakstan in australia and then at the last moment they cancel one of the tests...people here would be going crazy attacking the aussies yet the pcb screw us (aussies) out of a test match and we are getting the blame for that as well?
 
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Just reverse the situation..australia agree to a 3 test series vs pakstan in australia and then at the last moment they cancel one of the tests...people here would be going crazy attacking the aussies yet the pcb screw us (aussies) out of a test match and we are getting the blame for that as well?

PCB have a reputation for being a pathetic board that chases after money rather than high quality cricket CA values Test Cricket much more than JAMODIS and T20Is if CA cancelled a Test it'd be very much out of character that's why they'd get mote criticism. For PCB pathetic 2 Test series are the norm sadly

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I love test matches but after the big 3 saga:

What is the point of having any test matches?
Not like if there is an end goal in mind
No body watches full end to end test matches .
Except for Iconic test series, its loss of revenue and time and not to mention player fatigue. Its boring with empty stands during the day time.

With ICC's flawed ranking system, how does it matter if a team is the best test team. We should not play any test matches and master ODI and T20.

Only WC and WT20 matter.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>2 Tests only against Australia. I really don't see the point of series that consist of only 2 Tests <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PakvAus&src=hash">#PakvAus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cricket&src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/statuses/444467047976960000">March 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Its pathetic, pcb wants to squeeze in ODI's and T20's by cutting back on number of days taken up by tests. I do not see the point of a series that has 2 tests only. Legendary short sightedness by PCB, and has been going on for sometime now.
 
Should have been three tests, but due to the time constraints, they had to cut a test match to add a limited overs leg, to make the tour profitable.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>2 Tests only against Australia. I really don't see the point of series that consist of only 2 Tests <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23PakvAus&src=hash">#PakvAus</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cricket&src=hash">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/statuses/444467047976960000">March 14, 2014</a></blockquote>
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don't be surprised against no.1 side last year we played 2 tests :amla
 
The problem is that general public is not happy to see 5 day tests.

Till that perception changes, we won't get 3 match tests against most teams, just to make sure we get money out of T20 and ODI's.

I'm just surprised they didn't make it 5 ODI's to generate even more revenue.
 
Again, I dont get it,
what is the point of playing test matches?
player fatigue, waste of time and money
 
Again, I dont get it,
what is the point of playing test matches?
player fatigue, waste of time and money

There a gazillion reasons but one is that technique and temperament is tested in test matches.
You can survive in T20 and ODI cricket with luck and fortune, but you cannot play 05 days unless you are a good batsmen and mentally strong enough.

For a team like Pakistan it is even more critical more tests are held, so that players who are really worth it, can be filtered out from the crap players.

For example ,why is it that a player like Hafeez is exposed in tests, but is a gun player in T20.

If only T20's were played , players like Hafeez would be called World Class.

Do you think Hafeez is world class?

That's why you need tests, to show the true value of a player.
 
Pak rarely play 3 test series unless of course its vs Sri Lanka. So don't think its the effect of opposition to BIG 3 and anyway didn't PCB request to trim down 1 test, so they could add an ODI leg?
 
Terrible isn't it.

It's almost like Test cricket is an afterthought.

Agree with others, all series should be a minimum of 3 Tests.
 
Not Good.. Test series should always be a minimum of 3 matches . Pak and Australia are massive teams and giving them 2 matches is not good enough
 
There a gazillion reasons but one is that technique and temperament is tested in test matches.
You can survive in T20 and ODI cricket with luck and fortune, but you cannot play 05 days unless you are a good batsmen and mentally strong enough.

For a team like Pakistan it is even more critical more tests are held, so that players who are really worth it, can be filtered out from the crap players.

For example ,why is it that a player like Hafeez is exposed in tests, but is a gun player in T20.

If only T20's were played , players like Hafeez would be called World Class.

Do you think Hafeez is world class?

That's why you need tests, to show the true value of a player.

Agree with your points, but can we think vice versa. A good test player is not necessary a good ODI/T20 player (YK, Azhar,yousuf etc)

If filteration is the primary reason for playing test matches; then whats the point of discovering awesome players who can only play in test matches.
I am a big fan of test matches but there is no test championship to win so what is the point.

Would we rather win a WC/WT20 or beat Australia 2-0 in a test match? I would say WC/WT20 as you have the crown for a long time; so lets focus our energies on creating awesome ODI and T20 players.
 
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Would be good if the big three can introduce a minimum 3 test series policy between major test cricket nations.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Such a disappointment that there is no 3rd and deciding Test match in this series <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EngvPak</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1003299656305127424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3 June 2018</a></blockquote>
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Non-minnows should never play 2 tests.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Such a shame we don’t have a deciding Test ... Pakistan deserve more than 2 Match series ... Morning everyone ... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ENGvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ENGvPAK</a></p>— Michael Vaughan (@MichaelVaughan) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelVaughan/status/1003549667509096449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Would Pakistan have won that 3rd Test? I feel we were lucky it was 2 match series
 
Would Pakistan have won that 3rd Test? I feel we were lucky it was 2 match series

The 'would they' / 'wouldn't they' aspect of it makes 2 test series good from a marketing perspective in hindsight.
 
Would Pakistan have won that 3rd Test? I feel we were lucky it was 2 match series

Asian teams should always be happy with 2-3 match ones, Lanka won a 2 match series in England around 2013, if 2014 India had a 2 match series India would had won it 1-0.
We won 3 match one in 2007.

Tbf PCT s win in 2016 2-2 was amazing, because they actually managed to win 4th test, that was remarkable for various reasons one being it was in last match.
 
Pakistan easily deserves a 5 test match series in England everytime, they are always competitive there.
 
Pakistan deserves a 5-match series in England much more than India does for example as we've always been competitive there. And we probably deserve shorter series in Australia as it's been the opposite for the past 20 odd years. I guess India-England is one of those prestige series that has a lot of history behind it so gets that billing.

Either way a 2-match series in inexcusable. If it's anything close to an even contest it leaves you wanting more desperately. However, England usually get better as the series go on in their home grounds
 
Asian teams should always be happy with 2-3 match ones, Lanka won a 2 match series in England around 2013, if 2014 India had a 2 match series India would had won it 1-0.
We won 3 match one in 2007.

Tbf PCT s win in 2016 2-2 was amazing, because they actually managed to win 4th test, that was remarkable for various reasons one being it was in last match.

Point. Lanka won in 2014.
 
3 Test series would have been ideal. This 2 match series feels like someone cancelling a tv series before the finale.
 
I just don't think 3 tests are financially feasible .. after 2 tests, casual observers probably lose interest
 
When and who will rid us of this abomination?

What is the point of such a series - have Cricket administrators lost their marbles for good?

Or is this some kind of subliminal message for those opposing Big 3?

There is a message.

Audiences care more about T20.

Respect all fans, not just ones who share your preference.
 
There a gazillion reasons but one is that technique and temperament is tested in test matches.
You can survive in T20 and ODI cricket with luck and fortune, but you cannot play 05 days unless you are a good batsmen and mentally strong enough.

For a team like Pakistan it is even more critical more tests are held, so that players who are really worth it, can be filtered out from the crap players.

For example ,why is it that a player like Hafeez is exposed in tests, but is a gun player in T20.

If only T20's were played , players like Hafeez would be called World Class.

Do you think Hafeez is world class?

That's why you need tests, to show the true value of a player.

Hafeez is not a world-class T20 player.

And in any case, people can be world-class at T20 and awful at Test. And also the other way round.

They are fundamentally very different, and it's completely absurd to say that good players in Test will also succeed in T20 (Pujara anyone) and obviously the reverse can be true as well.

Lots of Test specialists are limited guys who can only grind out runs with infinite time but possess no skills.
 
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