The Great Indian Selection Circus

[cricketjoshila]

I have been writing posts on the horrible selection policy of both the selectors and team management of the Indian team in last few years.

The rot started with Dhoni. Before him selectors usually had a free hand in selecting players and the captain. During Dhoni's time, his closeness to Srinivasan meant he was untouchable. Even a man of Amarnath's stature was sacked when he wanted Dhoni to be removed from test captaincy.

Things have gone downhill since.


Who can forget the selection of Vijay Shankar and Dinesh Kartik in the world cup team?

Then came the 2021 T20 WC. India didn't reach the knockouts. Most believed that would be the end of players like Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar. But no, come the 2022 WC and these two guys walk back into the team. They are accompanied by Axar Patel. None of these 3 had done anything significant in the last 2 IPLs.

Now look at this

Selected Chahar and didn't play him in t20wc and played ashwin Axar who did nothing.

Selected kuldeep Yadav for the NZ tour didn't Play him but played Chahal who didn't do well.

Now both won't go to BD, where Axar will be the spinner.

Coming to pacers

They took a attack full of swing bowlers and a slower ball specialist to Australia, despite various calls of including a proper fast bowler. If not for Shami, the attack was pedestrian.

After the loss in semis, fast bowlers like Umran and Kuldeep Sen were selected but the powers that be made sure Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Shardul Thakur, Harshal Patel, Deepak Chahar were selected too. Kuldeep Sen ultimately was withdrawn and sent to Bangladesh tour.

Umran bowled a total of 15 overs, now he is rested and Thakur and Chahar go to Bangladesh.

Coming to batting, Samson doesn't get many chances but a has been like Dhawan keeps playing even if its only ODIs. Why?

Gill plays a couple of games, he is now rested from the BD series. Why?

KL Rahul despite all his failures gets striaght back into the BD series for some minnow bashing.

Seems the ring leaders of this circus have decided that they will not allow youngsters to get chances so that they don't outperform the preferred group by any chance.

The favourites of the ringleaders like BK Axar Thakur Chahar Dhawan kind of players and they will go to lengths to keep the youngsters out.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The circus starts from the head all the way down.

When you have someone like Jay Shah as one of the most senior administrators in the board as an example of cronyism and nepotism then its hard to call out those who are lower in the chain.

Remember there are strong rumours Ganguly was forced out of his role because he refused to join the BJP.

This type of culture which runs on fear and nepotism will only ever result in mediocrity, people afraid to put their ahead above the parapet and a safety first approach.

 

[SamNJ]

India's selection have been totally random from sometime. They just select players who done well at domestics as a reward without thinking of team combination.
Funniest selection was during 2019 world cup.
When opener Dhawan got injured during the world cup, they replaced him with a wicket keeper Pant and started playing an all rounder Vijay Shankar in the playing 11 in his place.
Then Vijay Shankar the all rounder got injured and they replaced him with an opener Mayank Agarwal in squad and started playing wicket keeper Pant in his place in the 11.

 

[Rajdeep]

India's cricket talent has dried up significantly and we are no longer producing cricketers we used to in the past. It is the harsh reality and we cant blame on the selectors alone. To their credit, they have given chance to almost every performer from IPL - Venky Iyer, Varun C, Ishan Kishan, Ruturaj etc but all flopped. There is still some hope from the likes of Bushnoi, Arshdeep, Umran etc but none are exceptional talent.

We are no longer producing talents like Kohli, Rohit, Yuvraj etc. Indian cricket is going through cricis and I am not sure if we can blame everything on selectors.

 

[Majestic]

Horrendous selections. In BD series, they have selected Tripathi, Patidar and Kishan. But Samson is not selected?

Chahal is rested from BD series but no Kuldeep? Who is the frontline spinner? Why Mohammad Siraj is not in NZ squad? Why does KL Rahul gets the same resting treatment as Rohit and Kohli?

 

[cricketjoshila]

The circus starts from the head all the way down.

When you have someone like Jay Shah as one of the most senior administrators in the board as an example of cronyism and nepotism then its hard to call out those who are lower in the chain.

Remember there are strong rumours Ganguly was forced out of his role because he refused to join the BJP.

This type of culture which runs on fear and nepotism will only ever result in mediocrity, people afraid to put their ahead above the parapet and a safety first approach.

BCCI has always been lead by non cricketers. Mostly businessmen and sometimes politicians. But except Srinivasan no one blatantly interfered in the selection process.

Ganguly left, because no bcci President since independence has served two consecutive terms. It simply doesn't happen. Else Dalmiya or Pawar or Scindia would have been president for years.

We have a brainless team management thanks to Ganguly insisting on Dravid.

This has more to do with the cricketing side of things.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Indian management messed up players selection and captain selection.
After Kohli they have changed 8 captains in a single year..what a disaster.

Over-the-Top, Dravid-Rohit duo took this to next level with their stupid tactics, players selection and rotation.

Poor Management
Poor Selectors
Poor Coaching
Poor Captaincy
Poor Tactics

Everything is poor from BCCI, coach and captain.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Too many options are available. so too much confusion. Never seen such a strong Indian bench strength. But they want to try every one randomly. So this makes nobody's place secure. India didn't have Rohit, Rahul, Pandya, Kohli, Jadeja, Axar. Still there is this issue of Pant vs Samson forget about Kishan who scored a brilliant 90 plus against SA only last series.

 

[Local.Dada]

Problem is we had capable administrators, now we have people getting roles based on their cricket credentials. Just because Dravid, Kumble, Laxman or even Shastri were great to decent players doesn’t mean they understand modern game. They can be mentors at best but can’t give them technical roles. Let the professionals and experts handle it.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar shouldn't play any more considering that we have the likes of Siraj, Prasidh, Kartik, Mohsin. All of them can bowl 140+, extract bounce and are tall.

Shikher Dhawan should be dropped, Gill and Rohit should open, even Rohit is not in form but still I don't think we can drop him.

Sundar should have a permanent place in the odi and test side (although it's his fault as he is usually injured)

Hooda shouldn't be selected just bcoz he can roll his arms.

Shami shouldn't be picked in LOIs and should be phased out in tests too.

Let's not even think about DK.

Chahal should be dropped, one of Kuldeep or Bishnoi should play as main spinner.

Hangargekar or Bawa should be given some chances as they are capable bowling allrounders who can challenge Pandya.

 

[Local.Dada]

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar shouldn't play any more considering that we have the likes of Siraj, Prasidh, Kartik, Mohsin. All of them can bowl 140+, extract bounce and are tall.

Shikher Dhawan should be dropped, Gill and Rohit should open, even Rohit is not in form but still I don't think we can drop him.

Sundar should have a permanent place in the odi and test side (although it's his fault as he is usually injured)

Hooda shouldn't be selected just bcoz he can roll his arms.

Shami shouldn't be picked in LOIs and should be phased out in tests too.

Let's not even think about DK.

Chahal should be dropped, one of Kuldeep or Bishnoi should play as main spinner.

Hangargekar or Bawa should be given some chances as they are capable bowling allrounders who can challenge Pandya.

Unfortunately Shikhar, Virat, Rohit will be the top 3 in the wc. One of them injured means Rahul will walk back in. SKY and Iyer have one slot among them and SKY will get it or they both will play which means Pant, Samson, Kishen, Hooda etc will lose out.

Pandya will take his spot back.

Jadeja will come ahead of Sundar for the World Cup. No way he will be dropped.

That’s pretty much the top 6-7

Chahal will continue ahead of Bishnoi.

Arshdeep will play for left arm quota.

Bumrah will be back.

So 1 slot available from all the names you mentioned. Since it’s subcontinent and pandya will be 3rd seamer one more spin slot will open which means Axar will come back. Sundar has an outside chance.

This is not what we want but what we will get. Knowing our selectors and team management, the X1 picks itself.

I missed a keeper so don’t be surprised if Rahul becomes make shift keeper at the expense of Sky/ Iyer

 

[Majestic]

Unfortunately Shikhar, Virat, Rohit will be the top 3 in the wc. One of them injured means Rahul will walk back in. SKY and Iyer have one slot among them and SKY will get it or they both will play which means Pant, Samson, Kishen, Hooda etc will lose out.

Pandya will take his spot back.

Jadeja will come ahead of Sundar for the World Cup. No way he will be dropped.

That’s pretty much the top 6-7

Chahal will continue ahead of Bishnoi.

Arshdeep will play for left arm quota.

Bumrah will be back.

So 1 slot available from all the names you mentioned. Since it’s subcontinent and pandya will be 3rd seamer one more spin slot will open which means Axar will come back. Sundar has an outside chance.

This is not what we want but what we will get. Knowing our selectors and team management, the X1 picks itself.

I missed a keeper so don’t be surprised if Rahul becomes make shift keeper at the expense of Sky/ Iyer

Likely 15 members team:-

Rohit
Shikhar/Gill(12)
Kohli
S Iyer/keeper(13)
KLR
Pandya( backup - Washington(14)
Jadeja( backup - Washington)
Kuldeep/Chahal(15)
Shami
Siraj
Bumrah

Also, 1 backup for pacer. So, that's 16.

 

[Aseem_04]

We want surya badly for this worldcup, He's X factor player and can win you matches outrightly ,he just played 4-5 games and meanwhile that garbage pant playing series after series forget wc if they don't select surya

Darkside of IPL is that team owners influencing who gets selected and captain.

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI appoints its Cricket Advisory Committee -- Mr Ashok Malhotra, Mr Jatin Paranjape and Ms Sulakshana Naik.

Among other things, this team will shortlist, interview and recommend the new selectors.


Ashok Malhotra played 7 tests 20ODIs

Jatin Paranjape 4 odis

Sulakshana Naik is former women's WK

2 Wtests
46 Wodis
31 Wt20s


This is a cruel joke on Indian cricket.

The original CAC consisted of Ganguly Laxman and Tendulkar. Thats why the Lodha report recommended it to be continued. It has come to this.

 

[GreenBee]

Coach-Captain combo really matters when it comes to selection.
Kohli-Shastri teams always reflected their personality, and now Dravid-Rohit teams are a reflection of who they are. Defensive and timid.

 

[RexRex]

I have been writing posts on the horrible selection policy of both the selectors and team management of the Indian team in last few years.

India just doesn't have the talent despite cricket being the only sport played in the country. The sooner you accept that the better.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India just doesn't have the talent despite cricket being the only sport played in the country. The sooner you accept that the better.

First of all cricket isn't the only sports. Secondly India has and still produces some great young talent. India's performance in the U19 WC will tell you that.

 

[Aseem_04]

India just doesn't have the talent despite cricket being the only sport played in the country. The sooner you accept that the better.

First come out this inferiority complexion indian is doing well in commemwealth games, Olympic. They are world's best in shooting always wins gold medals and in chess we have 15 year old grand master who are defeating magnus carlson, And doing well in hockey aswell , Swimming ,skating ,trekking , bicycling and a mamy more.


Still if you want console ur heart by living in delusion You may bro.

And you are talking about india ,they have dominated whole this decade in Odis ,tests.

We have most number of Talented batsman almost factory, we can make 3 teams of world class competitive batsman.

Though we are lacking in Loi bowling but Resources are there just need good selection policy.


Now you care yourself and your team look how Zimbambe , Australia now england thrashing your team.

Just because Pakistan lacking in other sports doesn't mean india too.

 

[Front Foot Pull]

BCCI appoints its Cricket Advisory Committee -- Mr Ashok Malhotra, Mr Jatin Paranjape and Ms Sulakshana Naik.

Among other things, this team will shortlist, interview and recommend the new selectors.


Ashok Malhotra played 7 tests 20ODIs

Jatin Paranjape 4 odis

Sulakshana Naik is former women's WK

2 Wtests
46 Wodis
31 Wt20s


This is a cruel joke on Indian cricket.

The original CAC consisted of Ganguly Laxman and Tendulkar. Thats why the Lodha report recommended it to be continued. It has come to this.

the new committee could be bad. but judge that on their performance in this field.
great players are not always great coaches
great players are not always great selectors/administrators
great players are not always great broadcasters.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Likely 15 members team:-

Rohit
Shikhar/Gill(12)
Kohli
S Iyer/keeper(13)
KLR
Pandya( backup - Washington(14)
Jadeja( backup - Washington)
Kuldeep/Chahal(15)
Shami
Siraj
Bumrah

Also, 1 backup for pacer. So, that's 16.

This is a decent team. I will have Gill open with Rohit and Sundar as specialist spinner in place of Kuldeep/Bishnoi.

Hav the batting packed with hitters and go all out like England. Anyone who plays timid or too defensive must be booted out.

 

[RexRex]

First come out this inferiority complexion indian is doing well in commemwealth games, Olympic. They are world's best in shooting always wins gold medals and in chess we have 15 year old grand master who are defeating magnus carlson, And doing well in hockey aswell , Swimming ,skating ,trekking , bicycling and a mamy more.


Still if you want console ur heart by living in delusion 😂You may bro.

And you are talking about india ,they have dominated whole this decade in Odis ,tests.

We have most number of Talented batsman almost factory, we can make 3 teams of world class competitive batsman.

Though we are lacking in Loi bowling but Resources are there just need good selection policy.


Now you care yourself and your team look how Zimbambe , Australia now england thrashing your team.

Just because Pakistan lacking in other sports doesn't mean india too.�

I am Indian too just not as hallucinatory as you !

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

They have no plan for future. Identify a proper captain and build the team towards next WC win.

Dhawan and KL doing captaincy makes no sense.

Swing bowlers are of no use on most pitches these days in LOI's

Chahal is not consistent, so find a better bowler who can bat.

Fill the team with more hard hitting all rounders and not specialist batters/ bowlers.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So, Rishabh has been released and Samson is in India! And back to KL Rahul to keep wickets when keepers are waiting for an opportunity and Ishan Kishan is there! I am quite confused.

Dravid wants his state mate in the team. But Rahul cannot open because they want a place for Dhawan too, so sacrifice 3 talented wktkeeper batsman.

The shameless circus continues.

 

[cricketjoshila]

4 bits and pieces players today.

Sundar

Ahmed

Chahar

Thakur

What a joke

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So, Rishabh has been released and Samson is in India! And back to KL Rahul to keep wickets when keepers are waiting for an opportunity and Ishan Kishan is there! I am quite confused.

Dravid wants his state mate in the team. But Rahul cannot open because they want a place for Dhawan too, so sacrifice 3 talented wktkeeper batsman.

The shameless circus continues.

Pant has been rightly dropped. Agree with the other two wicketkeepers who aren't even getting enough opportunities.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

4 bits and pieces players today.

Sundar

Ahmed

Chahar

Thakur

What a joke

Sundar is as good as a proper batsman and a very handy spinner.
I don't think he should be tagged with the others.

Shardul should only play tests, where he is doing great.

 

[Bewal Express]

What's going on with Pant and Dravid. This is a proper personality clash.

 

[Aseem_04]

What they did to kohli after that india is declining, Now in search of Captain Hitman is lost somewhere, And India is only country where s player of Shubhman gill caliber don't play, shame

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

What's going on with Pant and Dravid. This is a proper personality clash.

Pant got enough opportunities for now. Time to move on and look at other options. They are being too harsh on Samson and don't give enough opportunities to Kishan as well.

 

[Bewal Express]

Pant got enough opportunities for now. Time to move on and look at other options. They are being too harsh on Samson and don't give enough opportunities to Kishan as well.

Normally you build your teams around the likes of Pant. Dravid must really hate him

 

[Cover Drive Six]

4 bits and pieces players today.

Sundar

Ahmed

Chahar

Thakur

What a joke

Seriously its a joke.
India facing leadership crisis and selection issues.

Instead of raising his hands in vain can calling his fielders bhench**ds, Rohit Sharma should give up captaincy here

 

[cricketjoshila]

Seriously its a joke.
India facing leadership crisis and selection issues.

Instead of raising his hands in vain can calling his fielders bhench**ds, Rohit Sharma should give up captaincy here

Today he called in Chahar to bowl at 40th over, when everyone knows that chahar is very poor with the old ball.

This is third game across 3 formats that India has failed to close at the death.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Circus continues,

Dhawan gets out fending a medium pacer on a slow pitch, but Tripathi and Patidar and Kishan are on Bench.

According to Anjum Chopra in the comm box, Sen is fit but Chahar was carrying a niggle. Team picks chahar, he bowls 3 overs and gets injured. Sen on the bench.

Kuldeep Yadav is sitting at home, not getting chances, yet a damn average Axar Patel is being picked.

 

[cricketjoshila]

TM shamelessly protecting their precious KL Rahul and sending Sundar to bat at 4.

Sack this team management.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Circus continues,

Dhawan gets out fending a medium pacer on a slow pitch, but Tripathi and Patidar and Kishan are on Bench.

According to Anjum Chopra in the comm box, Sen is fit but Chahar was carrying a niggle. Team picks chahar, he bowls 3 overs and gets injured. Sen on the bench.

Kuldeep Yadav is sitting at home, not getting chances, yet a damn average Axar Patel is being picked.

Still can't fathom how is Kuldeep isn't the best spinner in the world just now after his start.

 

[shamaan]

Gill should be opening for India in tests and odis

My xi would be for the world cup
Gill
Kishan
Kohli
Iyer
Samson
Pandya
Jadeja
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Malik
Ashdeep

 

[Suleiman]

TM shamelessly protecting their precious KL Rahul and sending Sundar to bat at 4.

Sack this team management.

I understand removing Kohli as t20 captain, but was it worth removing him as ODI captain? Team is in free fall right now

 

[Suleiman]

Seriously its a joke.
India facing leadership crisis and selection issues.

Instead of raising his hands in vain can calling his fielders bhench**ds, Rohit Sharma should give up captaincy here

That’s what I think too. He’s a very emotional and reactive captain. Reminds me of Babar with antics like this.

 

[Mamoon]

I understand removing Kohli as t20 captain, but was it worth removing him as ODI captain? Team is in free fall right now

It doesn’t make sense to have different white ball captains because the core of the team is the same in both formats.

It would have created an unnecessary power struggle between the two & there would be never ending comparisons of their leadership & it would have inevitably led to grouping in the dressing room.

Rohit is a very good captain but a lot of issues have surfaced at the same time. He is struggling for form, he is struggling with fitness & he doesn’t seem to have any chemistry with the coach who looks completely out of his depth.

 

[Majestic]

<B>Jaydev Unadkat recalled to Indian Test side for Bangladesh series</B>

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...led-to-indian-test-side-for-bangladesh-series

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The circus continues..Bumrah, Shami and Prasidh are injured but Umran is still not considered. Instead Unadkat is picked in the squad.

 

[IamIndian]

<B>Jaydev Unadkat recalled to Indian Test side for Bangladesh series</B>

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news...led-to-indian-test-side-for-bangladesh-series

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The circus continues..Bumrah, Shami and Prasidh are injured but Umran is still not considered. Instead Unadkat is picked in the squad.

Indian cricket moving one step forward, two steps back!

 

[The lone Ranger]

Shardul couldn't even put bat on ball and was bowling poorly yet keep getting selected

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant got enough opportunities for now. Time to move on and look at other options. They are being too harsh on Samson and don't give enough opportunities to Kishan as well.

Kishan got one opportunity and made the most out of it. Samson is next.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Kuldeep Yadav the MoM from last match dropped.

Axar Patel and Unadkat play ahead of him.

Those response for these decisions will have to answer one day.

 

[Ab Fan]

It is getting embarrassing nowadays... You can pretty much expect the worst possible selections at any time. Watch out how they persist with Shikhar Dhawan in ODI series too and will either drop Gill or Kishan.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

Kuldeep Yadav the MoM from last match dropped.

Axar Patel and Unadkat play ahead of him.

Those response for these decisions will have to answer one day.

This is ridiculous.
Pathetic Coach and Captain.

 

[MenInG]

Has anything improved since this thread was started?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Has anything improved since this thread was started?

Gone downhill.

You get people like Mukesh Kumar and Unadkat.

Unfit players like KL Rahul are selected knowingly. Why? No one knows.

 

[Farabi]

The vibrant circus comes to life thanks to the fervent Indian fans who hype the team to celestial heights. Indian cricket boasts abundant talent, but it is mostly concentrated in top-order batting. While bowling has progressed, its impact is limited today and it is over reliant on Bumrah and they’ve already broken his back. Among spinners, Kuldeep stands out, but the rest are fairly average, and superior spinners compared to Kuldeep are also present. The tale is grim when it comes to middle-order batting and power hitters. Except for Virat Kohli and somewhat Kuldeep, no one in the Indian team evokes fear. In the 2000s, I could easily list 6-7 players who did. India's test ranking gains from playing on turning tracks and challenging pitches that pose difficulty for foreign teams. The notable achievement is the test series against Australia, yet beyond that, the Indian team's performance has been rather ordinary. However, there's a disparity in expectations among the passionate Indian fans.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's symptomatic of everything that's wrong in our society and government. We can reduce everything to jingoistic rhetoric and there are enough people to lap it up.

BCCI doesn't suffer criticism or being held accountable. The only way you can punish BCCI is by unsubscribing from Jio . Hit them where it hurts - their coffers and then we can expect change.

Jay Shah can't even organise a friggin World Cup. Can't expect him to raise the standards of Indian cricket.

There's a great article on Caravan by Sharda Ugra that exposes the fraudulent dictatorship of the BCCI but low IQ idiots will brush it off as it doesn't fit in with their ideological bent of mind.

I would take Wasim Khan and Rameez Raja 100 times over incompetent louts like Jay Shah.

Pakistani fans have no idea how much Wasim and Rameez have revamped their domestic structure and created pathways for talent and have incentivised performing coaches etc.

Now, it's slowly bearing fruit.

 

[Justcrazy]

Gone downhill.

You get people like Mukesh Kumar and Unadkat.

Unfit players like KL Rahul are selected knowingly. Why? No one knows.

They will play KL Rahul as WK in the WC , they need to give him some games before that , that is why they select him. He is first choice WK in Rahul Dravids plan.