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The Greatest T20I Knock Ever Played? - Take A Bow Virat Kohli

It was just a passing line in a reply to someone else.

:bow: to your analytical skills.

:))) Comedy central your posts are.

You went OTT when talking about past greats saying they could not have pulled it off.. That is an extraordinary claim one should make after having watched them all at close quarters.
 
That was massive, massive innings by Kohli, we were watching Batman Vs Superman.... The real Superman was playing in Mohali!!! - Kohli has taken himself to a whole new level... He will be remembered as the best chaser in the history of cricket, this guy has nerves of steel :14:
 
You are, like most of the world right now. It was a good innings, but these are becoming more and more and more common these days. He'll hit another innings like this in the next few matches and then again and so will others.

Modern cricket is junk because of this type of contest. Super fast outfields, no reverse swing, bowling restriction rules, flat pitches and short boundaries. So it means innings like this are no longer spectacular. Whereas in the past innings from Sir Viv, Kapil etc were rare and far more difficult to earn.
OP he clearly mentioned that he is talking about T20 knocks an inherently inferior format to the knocks you are referring to I presume.

So it's a comprehension fail on your part. Ofcourse in t20s it is arguably the best ever in the 10 year history of the format.

No where has OP stated that this knocks compares to the best knocks in tests and ODIs
 
It was just a passing line in a reply to someone else.

:bow: to your analytical skills.

:))) Comedy central your posts are.

Let it be, SIF...useless to argue it out with the oldies. They seem to dislike modern cricket, but still can't stop either watching or commenting on a T20 thread.
 
OP he clearly mentioned that he is talking about T20 knocks an inherently inferior format to the knocks you are referring to I presume.

So it's a comprehension fail on your part. Ofcourse in t20s it is arguably the best ever in the 10 year history of the format.

No where has OP stated that this knocks compares to the best knocks in tests and ODIs

He named past greats based on their odi credentials.
 
Guys, it was a good innings, but lets calm down. In typical fashion, PP'ers take everything to the extreme.
He did a really good job in running between the wickets and he putting the bad bowls away. More than an ATG innings, this was more so hopeless balling from the Aussies more than anything, and showed they were lacking a spinner and desperately missing Starc.

I would rate his innings against Pak much higher than this one, as that one was on a nightmare pitch whereas here he put the bad balls fed to him away. No need to get so carried away after such toothless balling.

If we're talking about ATG innings, there are some in this very same tournament that rank just as high, if not higher, aka Joe Root, Gayle...
 
Yes....I called this the greatest T20 knock. So comparison pertaining to T20 only.

But I did compare the style of play of other ATGs in such a situation.
 
He is truly something else.

:)) at comparisons with any of his peers.

The personality and charisma he exudes alone will revive cricket if it ever was dying.
 
Guys, it was a good innings, but lets calm down. In typical fashion, PP'ers take everything to the extreme.
He did a really good job in running between the wickets and he putting the bad bowls away. More than an ATG innings, this was more so hopeless balling from the Aussies more than anything, and showed they were lacking a spinner and desperately missing Starc.

I would rate his innings against Pak much higher than this one, as that one was on a nightmare pitch whereas here he put the bad balls fed to him away. No need to get so carried away after such toothless balling.

If we're talking about ATG innings, there are some in this very same tournament that rank just as high, if not higher, aka Joe Root, Gayle...

That's true.. But it was a good innings.. Not the greatest.
 
Let it be, SIF...useless to argue it out with the oldies. They seem to dislike modern cricket, but still can't stop either watching or commenting on a T20 thread.

Haha....Its funny to see people dismissing the other person's cricket knowledge level when they don't even have a freaking clue about how much they know (or don't know).
 
Guys, it was a good innings, but lets calm down. In typical fashion, PP'ers take everything to the extreme.
He did a really good job in running between the wickets and he putting the bad bowls away. More than an ATG innings, this was more so hopeless balling from the Aussies more than anything, and showed they were lacking a spinner and desperately missing Starc.

I would rate his innings against Pak much higher than this one, as that one was on a nightmare pitch whereas here he put the bad balls fed to him away. No need to get so carried away after such toothless balling.

If we're talking about ATG innings, there are some in this very same tournament that rank just as high, if not higher, aka Joe Root, Gayle...

I swear sometimes people don't even watch innings before commenting. Kohli was slicing 140 kph yorkers from Faulkner and Coulter Nile for four through an off side field which had a point and deep cover in place. It was astonishing.
 
Yes....I called this the greatest T20 knock. So comparison pertaining to T20 only.

But I did compare the style of play of other ATGs in such a situation.

When you talk about them not having the ability to pull it off you need to base your arguments solid. Just accept that you got carried away with your words.
 
Kohli's Pak innings greater than this one?

Not a chance in hell.

This was something else.

There he just needed to stay not out and runs were coming in.

Here he had to stay not out, score runs without having to resort to sixes (which were risky).

This knock is leagues above the knock Kohli played against Pakistan.
 
Haha....Its funny to see people dismissing the other person's cricket knowledge level when they don't even have a freaking clue about how much they know (or don't know).

You got to give them the taste of their own medicine..see how I do it.:))
 
When you talk about them not having the ability to pull it off you need to base your arguments solid. Just accept that you got carried away with your words.

I can but just not bothered.

But I have to accept defeat when faced up with your Inzi/Javed post.

How can I possible give a counter attack to that?

Haha.
 
When you talk about them not having the ability to pull it off you need to base your arguments solid. Just accept that you got carried away with your words.

I think you're not getting his or anybody's points..cool down and take a look once again.
 
Lemme put this knock in perspective for a few Pakistani friends here.

Imagine one of your players played this and that's it. Nothing of note before, nothing after.

He would have a 10 year career with patches of being out of the team. He would also have a lifelong career as a respected TV analyst (not the Basit Ali types).

That's how good it was.
 
I can but just not bothered.

But I have to accept defeat when faced up with your Inzi/Javed post.

How can I possible give a counter attack to that?

Haha.

Inzy pulled it off if you r talking about one innings.. Did u watch aravinda in the final of 1996 WC.. Did you watch javed last ball six.. Did you see your own tendulkar 134 in sharjah final against a much better attack against falling wickets.
 
I just happend to witness one of the greatest t20 innings live right in front of my eyes :)
 
Inzy pulled it off if you r talking about one innings.. Did u watch aravinda in the final of 1996 WC.. Did you watch javed last ball six.. Did you see your own tendulkar 134 in sharjah final against a much better attack against falling wickets.

Same old response.

I can name 100 nice knocks.

Could counter all of them with ease.

Fact is none of those knocks had the compulsions that Kohli had.

If smashing something is great then Gibbs 191 chasing 434 is greater than Kohli's. But its not about that.

Watch my original post and other replies to see why this knock is supreme in T20 and the execution is supreme in all of LOI.

But then if you could, you wouldn't be arguing like a child with everyone. :))
 
So that's the best defense you have got.. Someone else doing it so I will do it too.. Haha caught ya..

Again going away from the topic of discussion..stick to the topic..tell me an innings of the same calibre on a difficult pitch in t20..then I would say kohlis innings is not the best ever..
 
Again going away from the topic of discussion..stick to the topic..tell me an innings of the same calibre on a difficult pitch in t20..then I would say kohlis innings is not the best ever..

Honestly, Marlon Samuels in the 2012 final. That is the ONLY innings I rate higher. And in terms of chasing innings, it is THE best. By far.
 
Same old response.

I can name 100 nice knocks.

Could counter all of them with ease.

Fact is none of those knocks had the compulsions that Kohli had.

If smashing something is great then Gibbs 191 chasing 434 is greater than Kohli's. But its not about that.

Watch my original post and other replies to see why this knock is supreme in T20 and the execution is supreme in all of LOI.

But then if you could, you wouldn't be arguing like a child with everyone. :))

Exactly. The fact that Kohli did what he did today with almost zero support from the top order, in a must win game, and with absolutelyno slogging was incredible.
 
Same old response.

I can name 100 nice knocks.

Could counter all of them with ease.

Fact is none of those knocks had the compulsions that Kohli had.

If smashing something is great then Gibbs 191 chasing 434 is greater than Kohli's. But its not about that.

Watch my original post and other replies to see why this knock is supreme in T20 and the execution is supreme in all of LOI.

But then if you could, you wouldn't be arguing like a child with everyone. :))

Same old response because u r caught red handed with ur outrageous claim about no past great could have pulled it off.. Now u want all of us to take that nonsense and accept it..
 
Honestly, Marlon Samuels in the 2012 final. That is the ONLY innings I rate higher. And in terms of chasing innings, it is THE best. By far.

But that was a flat pitch....and other batters were also milking it.
But I know where you're going.
 
Exactly. The fact that Kohli did what he did today with almost zero support from the top order, in a must win game, and with absolutelyno slogging was incredible.

He was well supported by yuvi in parts and dhoni later.. He wasn't like tendulkar who from the first ball had to do it entirely on his own. Imagine dhoni getting out first ball. This is what happened with sachin mostly.
 
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Honestly, Marlon Samuels in the 2012 final. That is the ONLY innings I rate higher. And in terms of chasing innings, it is THE best. By far.

Its not the hitting that makes this knock the one it is.

Marlon came in at a tough situation and started smashing it.

While that is awesome, those knocks have been done.

Raina's 80 odd in 29 balls in IPL was an insane knock.

But its not about that.

What do you do when

1. Its a knockout game
2. You are the ONLY wicket opposition needs to take (even Kohli knew that if he was gone, India would lose like 99% - Marlon didn't have that pressure - not his fault but just saying)
3. Hitting sixes was OUT OF QUESTION due to big grounds and ball stopping
4. Faulkner and Watson slowing everything up and everyone was looking clueless
5. Req run rate at 10 for 10 overs
6. Fielders guarding the boundaries on a BIG BIG ground (third man and fine leg brought up). Since ball wasn't coming on to the bat, scooping would be hard to execute.

And still Kohli chased with 1 over to spare.

Add everything up.

This is easily better than Marlon's knock which was supreme too.
 
He was well supported by yuvi in parts and dhoni later.. He wasn't like tendulkar who from the first ball had to do it entirely on his own. Imagine dhoni getting out first ball. This is what happened with sachin mostly.

Pandya would have come in..and he's in awesome hitting form.
 
Its not the hitting that makes this knock the one it is.

Marlon came in at a tough situation and started smashing it.

While that is awesome, those knocks have been done.

Raina's 80 odd in 29 balls in IPL was an insane knock.

But its not about that.

What do you do when

1. Its a knockout game
2. You are the ONLY wicket opposition needs to take (even Kohli knew that if he was gone, India would lose like 99% - Marlon didn't have that pressure - not his fault but just saying)
3. Hitting sixes was OUT OF QUESTION due to big grounds and ball stopping
4. Faulkner and Watson slowing everything up and everyone was looking clueless
5. Req run rate at 10 for 10 overs
6. Fielders guarding the boundaries on a BIG BIG ground (third man and fine leg brought up). Since ball wasn't coming on to the bat, scooping would be hard to execute.

And still Kohli chased with 1 over to spare.

Add everything up.

This is easily better than Marlon's knock which was supreme too.

All these points are true with almost all great odi innings too in chases.. With slight variations.
 
All these points are true with almost all great odi innings too in chases.. With slight variations.

Its not.

Its not true for Inzi knock (brilliant cameo but he could smash it)
Its not true for Tendulkar Sharjah knock (insane knock but he could smash it on those pitches even though he was a lone ranger)
Its not true for Aravinda knock (which was again brilliant but he could coordinate the chase without having to score at a slogging rate WITHOUT slogging)
Its not true for Javed Miandad knock (which was very calculative but didn't have to score as much as Kohli had to with the same compulsions).

Its the COMPULSIONS that make the knock the one it is.

The need to score at 10 rpo for 10 freaking overs without losing your wicket and without resorting to sixes and tackling a inconsistent bounce pitch that holds up.

Simply the greatest in T20.

And the execution the greatest in LOI (as far as I know).
 
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So what?

When you have supreme bowlers operating at their best, no batsmen can do anything anyways.

Its a pointless exercise.

Even if Starc was there, Kohli could play him off and take on others.

Anyways, it doesn't matter. Aussie bowlers had help from conditions and India were on the backfoot and in that context, this knock was something else. Six hitting was off the table due to big grounds and pitch holding up.

As for your hypotheticals....watch what Kohli does to the yorker, full pitches and very low full tosses of Malinga (who is considered the best in T20s)

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See the deliveries.

Malinga does EXACTLY what you say and result was 3 boundaries.

Next he is going to tell us that only Waqar Younis could ever bowl real yorkers :)) .... basically he is never going to accept that Kohli is as good as it gets.
 
Its not.

Its not true for Inzi knock (brilliant cameo but he could smash it)
Its not true for Tendulkar Sharjah knock (insane knock but he could smash it on those pitches even though he was a lone ranger)
Its not true for Aravinda knock (which was again brilliant but he could coordinate the chase without having to score at a slogging rate WITHOUT slogging)
Its not true for Javed Miandad knock (which was very calculative but didn't have to score as much as Kohli had to with the same compulsions).

Its the COMPULSIONS that make the knock the one it is.

The need to score at 10 rpo for 10 freaking overs without losing your wicket and without resorting to sixes and tackling a inconsistent bounce pitch that holds up.

Simply the greatest in T20.

And the execution the greatest in LOI (as far as I know).

I am sure you could find with each of them something which Kohli innings lacked. What is the point ? Kohli took last 3 overs to settle a match which others could have done earlier. Remember tendulkar 175 chasing 350 as a lone effort. When you take bowling quality into account you would see the difference.
 
I would rate this knock as the second greatest T20 knock i've seen behind the Samuels special in the final. Joint second with the Hussey phainta on Ajmal.
 
I have to disagree with some of your points.

Its not the hitting that makes this knock the one it is.

Marlon came in at a tough situation and started smashing it.

Not true. After 11 overs, West Indies were 38/2. At that stage, Marlon was 26 in 32 balls! He knew he had to play out Mathews, who was bowling his cutters superbly on a nightmarishly tough pitch. After that, he moved through the gears and targetted Malinga, whose pace and style of bowling (no cutters at all) was the easiest to face. It was genius batting. He moved through all stages of the perfect innings. From defending everything in a dire position to stop a collapse, to going into second and third gear and finally smashing sixes to push the total forward.

What do you do when

1. Its a knockout game
2. You are the ONLY wicket opposition needs to take (even Kohli knew that if he was gone, India would lose like 99% - Marlon didn't have that pressure - not his fault but just saying)

If Marlon had got out in 12-13th over, West Indies would have been bowled out for <100. I have absolutely no doubt about this.

3. Hitting sixes was OUT OF QUESTION due to big grounds and ball stopping

The pitch in 2012 was far tougher, and was gripping even more. And here's a fun fact. In the whole match, 8 sixes were hit. Marlon hit 6 of them :D

I think Kohli's innings was incredible, too. But Samuels' was a smidgen better. The occasion was bigger, the pitch was tougher, the opposition bowling attack was better (Malinga, Mendis, Mathews are all superb t20 bowlers) West Indies were in a much more dire situation and it looked like they had no way back, and he scored an absurd proportion of their runs. (When Samuels was finally dismissed, he had got 78 out of West Indies' total of 108 runs!).

But we will agree to disagree. Both are legendary knocks in this format :)
 
I am sure you could find with each of them something which Kohli innings lacked. What is the point ? Kohli took last 3 overs to settle a match which others could have done earlier. Remember tendulkar 175 chasing 350 as a lone effort. When you take bowling quality into account you would see the difference.

I agree with you on one thing..that sachin could have pulled it off..regarding inzi and miandad..:)) only in their dreams:)))
 
There is no doubt he is one of the best loi chaser but honestly there have been some innings which are at the same level minus the occasion.
The best T20 innings so far is Mike Hussey's 24 ball 60 in 2010 world T20 semifinal against Pakistan at Gros Islet.
 
I am not sure with he could not smash it.. And others could.. Lol.. Is this even an argument ?
 
Lol.. How much have you watched Miandad bat ?

Yeah I have watched him enough to know that he would play exactly like the knock in 1996 world cup game against us when he made 36 out of 80 odd balls to lose the game single handedly for Pakistan.
 
I have to disagree with some of your points.



Not true. After 11 overs, West Indies were 38/2. At that stage, Marlon was 26 in 32 balls! He knew he had to play out Mathews, who was bowling his cutters superbly on a nightmarishly tough pitch. After that, he moved through the gears and targetted Malinga, whose pace and style of bowling (no cutters at all) was the easiest to face. It was genius batting. He moved through all stages of the perfect innings. From defending everything in a dire position to stop a collapse, to going into second and third gear and finally smashing sixes to push the total forward.



If Marlon had got out in 12-13th over, West Indies would have been bowled out for <100. I have absolutely no doubt about this.



The pitch in 2012 was far tougher, and was gripping even more. And here's a fun fact. In the whole match, 8 sixes were hit. Marlon hit 6 of them :D

I think Kohli's innings was incredible, too. But Samuels' was a smidgen better. The occasion was bigger, the pitch was tougher, the opposition bowling attack was better (Malinga, Mendis, Mathews are all superb t20 bowlers) West Indies were in a much more dire situation and it looked like they had no way back, and he scored an absurd proportion of their runs. (When Samuels was finally dismissed, he had got 78 out of West Indies' total of 108 runs!).

But we will agree to disagree. Both are legendary knocks in this format :)

1. Marlon came in a tough position. That's what I said.

2. Yes, the pitch for Marlon was harder. But hey, Kohli played in a harder pitch against Pakistan than this one. But that doesn't make Kohli's Pak knock as good as this.

Hardness is one factor.
What you NEED to do is another.

A hard pitch where you need to get run a ball is EASIER to execute than a semi hard pitch where you need to get 10 rpo for 10 overs in a big ground where pitch is gripping.

Its NOT the conditions that decide the knock. Its the conditions PLUS requirements that decide the knock.

3. Yes, if Marlon had got out, WI would have crumbled. But the EXPECTATION of performance wasn't on his shoulders like it was for Kohli. Don't get me wrong. This is NOT my main point but just a sub point. Its easier for a guy whom no one expects to come and play a great knock than the other way round. Again, not a main point but a sub point.

Kohli KNEW he had to do it or else it was gone.

4. We were chasing and the requirements WERE SET IN STONE. Marlon knew his team was in trouble so he blocked a few and then started smashing KNOWING that he just has to increase the score as much as possible. It was a harder pitch than Kohli but the requirements weren't as hard as Kohli who had to scale Mount Everest no matter what or else his team gets knocked out.

Tally up everything and now judge.

If you still feel Marlon's is better, fair enough.

Agree to disagree.
 
Either you guys are used to see mediocre bowling or you dont realise that he was constantly bowled at hitting length. It was like free meal for most of the times.
How many times he was yorked today?

Let me explain to you with a HOLLYWOOD analogy

The Good- Kohli Smashing length balls and over pitched deliveries to extra cover for 4 fours in the penultimate over and remaining not out thereby winning the game for India

The Bad- Malik and Sarfi tapping full tosses and hit me balls to square leg for a single, remaining not out and losing the game for Pakistan from a winning position against NZ

The Ugly- Mushfiqur and Riyad slogging full tosses to deep midwicket fielder and getting out thereby losing the game that was in their hands

The BEST- Kohli's sixer of James Faulkner that was a slow ball that gripped and turned to long off. That was just the best of the day.

Now you know why everyone's gaga over this innings
 
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1. Marlon came in a tough position. That's what I said.

2. Yes, the pitch for Marlon was harder. But hey, Kohli played in a harder pitch against Pakistan than this one. But that doesn't make Kohli's Pak knock as good as this.

Hardness is one factor.
What you NEED to do is another.

A hard pitch where you need to get run a ball is EASIER to execute than a semi hard pitch where you need to get 10 rpo for 10 overs in a big ground where pitch is gripping.

Its NOT the conditions that decide the knock. Its the conditions PLUS requirements that decide the knock.

3. Yes, if Marlon had got out, WI would have crumbled. But the EXPECTATION of performance wasn't on his shoulders like it was for Kohli. Don't get me wrong. This is NOT my main point but just a sub point. Its easier for a guy whom no one expects to come and play a great knock than the other way round. Again, not a main point but a sub point.

Kohli KNEW he had to do it or else it was gone.

4. We were chasing and the requirements WERE SET IN STONE. Marlon knew his team was in trouble so he blocked a few and then started smashing KNOWING that he just has to increase the score as much as possible. It was a harder pitch than Kohli but the requirements weren't as hard as Kohli who had to scale Mount Everest no matter what or else his team gets knocked out.

Tally up everything and now judge.

If you still feel Marlon's is better, fair enough.

Agree to disagree.

Seems we both have different criteria when judging the innings which is fair enough.
 
Yeah I have watched him enough to know that he would play exactly like the knock in 1996 world cup game against us when he made 36 out of 80 odd balls to lose the game single handedly for Pakistan.

This is even more pathetic argument... You r not making any sense at all. Please go .
 
Masterful performance. Holy cow this innings really seals the deal on where Kohli stands as a batsman. Exceptional, simply exceptional!
 
Seems we both have different criteria when judging the innings which is fair enough.

Don't worry.. He won't listen to any argument against his choice . everyone else had it easy but only Kohli was the greatest.
 
I salute u kohli I'm die hard pak fan but today u won me over as class is class



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Don't know if this was the best ever T20 innings, but this was probably the most aesthetically pleasing, yet brutally effective innings that I have ever seen in a back to the wall situation.
 
Are u following all the posts in this thread ?

Yeah I did, OP thinks this is the best T20 innings and you clearly disagree.... That's why I want to know from you, which are the other great T20 knocks that you think are better than this....
 
As a pakistan fan I have to say that was a brilliant knock under pressure. Defo the worlds best batsman!! Wish our useless batsman were watching and taking notes. You guys are lucky to have him. Ice cool and great skillfull batting. Fantastic timing, elegance and batsmanship at its best. Good luck in the semis. You deserve it after that performance.
 
Absolutely amazing, I'm still in awe hours after.
100% sure that he'll end up being the GoAT.
 
Sorry to remind you guys but the greatest knock for me was Michael Hussey in 2010 semi final :).
 
The look on Australian players and captain smith's face says it all, they were absolutely stunned, smith was like about to cry and that's how good this innings was.
 
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Yeah I did, OP thinks this is the best T20 innings and you clearly disagree.... That's why I want to know from you, which are the other great T20 knocks that you think are better than this....

No I disagree on something else. Please read my posts properly again.
 
Indians had the exact same feeling for Mohd Amir after his Asia cup bowling spell against us in Bangladesh....

Mohd. Amir was firing all cylinders.. He was just unplayable .. Kohli himself was his bunny that day... Only bad umpiring saved Kohli. On a proper contest Kohli can't stand an over against Amir.
 
Mohd. Amir was firing all cylinders.. He was just unplayable .. Kohli himself was his bunny that day... Only bad umpiring saved Kohli. On a proper contest Kohli can't stand an over against Amir.

Ohh yes ofcourse, the Pakistani in denial comes out with the what ifs.......
 
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