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I have no hope from our batting, especially the openers. We just dont follow the right template to bat in swinging/seaming conditions.
Our rockstars, want to get that stride in to counter the movement but that had failed again and again that its shocking that we haven't even thought of rectifying that .
The best batsmen always see it early and play it late either square or behind square of the wicket.
Forget the likes of Smith and Root, let's just look at Shan Masood's innings of 156 in England. He showed immense discipline by using the depth of his crease and playing as late as possible. More than 60 % of his runs were behind square and around 87% runs were not in the V.
Even the likes of Babar and Rizwan got out trying to play straight but Shan didnt and could notch up that big ton which , with better bowling, should have won that match.
We simply dont have batsmen capable of even doing what Shan did in England.
Our rockstars, want to get that stride in to counter the movement but that had failed again and again that its shocking that we haven't even thought of rectifying that .
The best batsmen always see it early and play it late either square or behind square of the wicket.
Forget the likes of Smith and Root, let's just look at Shan Masood's innings of 156 in England. He showed immense discipline by using the depth of his crease and playing as late as possible. More than 60 % of his runs were behind square and around 87% runs were not in the V.
Even the likes of Babar and Rizwan got out trying to play straight but Shan didnt and could notch up that big ton which , with better bowling, should have won that match.
We simply dont have batsmen capable of even doing what Shan did in England.
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So 60 points on offer, if India win one test, which I think they may and with maybe one more a draw, India leave England with 16 points.
That is only 27% of the points on offer, so India will be pretty lowly ranked according to the ICC new points system. Bit unfair for a 5 match test series?
That is only 27% of the points on offer, so India will be pretty lowly ranked according to the ICC new points system. Bit unfair for a 5 match test series?
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Vihari or Mayank will open. Rahul will get a chance after Rahane officially announces his retirement.
If anything, Kohli tries to play it early by standing a foot outside the batting crease. Lately, Gill too has been bitten by this bug of playing it early rather than late, a technique adjustment which is so important in English conditions.
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India is set to play a couple of warm-up games ahead of the England Test series.
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LMAO you are talking as if he has never got an opportunity to open. May be you are not aware but KL played all 5 tests in England last time, got exposed and was one of the main reason for India losing that series. He should represent India only in LOI's. I would like to know from you what special inning has he played in test cricket to deserve an opening spot again? He has a test average of 34.
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Alastair Cook highlights India's 'big weakness', explains why England will 'fancy their chances' during five-Test series
Alastair Cook, the former England skipper, feels India have a big weakness of their own, that will allow England to perhaps breathe a bit easy during the five-Test series.
Having lost a home Test series to New Zealand 0-1, England have received a bit of a setback ahead of their five-Test series against India starting August. Despite having home advantage, former captains Michael Vaughan and Nasser Hussain are apprehensive about England's chances of defending the series against a formidable unit such as India due to several grounds.
Lack of proper top order batsmen, coupled by the fact that England are likely to be without Jofra Archer, are two of the factors that do not hold the Three Lions in best stead. However, Alastair Cook, another former skipper feels India have a big weakness of their own, that will allow England to perhaps breathe a bit easy.
"India are a great side. England will always fancy their chances more if that ball moves. If the conditions are like that in the month of August with moisture around, England will fancy bowling to that Indian side. Yes, they are a world-class batting unit. But their big weakness is the ball that moves, if it nips. You always fancy your chances against them," Cook said on BBC Test Match Special Podcast episode.
The five-Test series promises to be a thrilling encounter as India look to end their Test series drought in the UK. India last won a series in England way back in 2007, before going on to lose on their next three tours – 0-4 in 2011, 1-3 in 2014 and 1-4 in 2018. Earlier this year, England toured India for a four-Test series, which they lost 1-3 and missed out qualifying for the World Test Championship final.
England paid the price for sticking to the rotation policy but captain Joe Root has made it clear that it won't be the case this time around. With the India-England series marking the start of the next WTC cycle, England will field the strongest squads for all five matches and come out firing on all cylinders.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/alastair-cook-highlights-india-s-big-weakness-explains-why-england-will-fancy-their-chances-during-five-test-series-101625205332843.html
Alastair Cook, the former England skipper, feels India have a big weakness of their own, that will allow England to perhaps breathe a bit easy during the five-Test series.
Having lost a home Test series to New Zealand 0-1, England have received a bit of a setback ahead of their five-Test series against India starting August. Despite having home advantage, former captains Michael Vaughan and Nasser Hussain are apprehensive about England's chances of defending the series against a formidable unit such as India due to several grounds.
Lack of proper top order batsmen, coupled by the fact that England are likely to be without Jofra Archer, are two of the factors that do not hold the Three Lions in best stead. However, Alastair Cook, another former skipper feels India have a big weakness of their own, that will allow England to perhaps breathe a bit easy.
"India are a great side. England will always fancy their chances more if that ball moves. If the conditions are like that in the month of August with moisture around, England will fancy bowling to that Indian side. Yes, they are a world-class batting unit. But their big weakness is the ball that moves, if it nips. You always fancy your chances against them," Cook said on BBC Test Match Special Podcast episode.
The five-Test series promises to be a thrilling encounter as India look to end their Test series drought in the UK. India last won a series in England way back in 2007, before going on to lose on their next three tours – 0-4 in 2011, 1-3 in 2014 and 1-4 in 2018. Earlier this year, England toured India for a four-Test series, which they lost 1-3 and missed out qualifying for the World Test Championship final.
England paid the price for sticking to the rotation policy but captain Joe Root has made it clear that it won't be the case this time around. With the India-England series marking the start of the next WTC cycle, England will field the strongest squads for all five matches and come out firing on all cylinders.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/alastair-cook-highlights-india-s-big-weakness-explains-why-england-will-fancy-their-chances-during-five-test-series-101625205332843.html
LMAO you are talking as if he has never got an opportunity to open. May be you are not aware but KL played all 5 tests in England last time, got exposed and was one of the main reason for India losing that series. He should represent India only in LOI's. I would like to know from you what special inning has he played in test cricket to deserve an opening spot again? He has a test average of 34.
So just because he failed on 1 England tour...he cant be successful in future? Kohli failed in 2014....didnt he make amends in 2018? Btw, Rahul had a century on that England tour which you keep referring to in every post albeit in a dead rubber.
Rahul was our best test batsman when Australia toured India in 2018. On those tricky pitches when every Indian batsman struggled, Rahul is the only batsman who looked good. Then mid way of our tour to Australia he was dropped as an opener and never given chance again. He is basically a 48+ avg test opener but not getting any chance.
Rahul
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Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Pandya (if he is bowling)
The above should be our batting line up and WTC finals 2023 is all ours.
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If you understand the game, you know very well that KL Rahul is a better batsman for overseas conditions than Mayank or Shaw. England conditions are not easy for openers, even Rohit has failed only in overseas conditions.
Furthermore, Rahul is seen as the next Indian captain. We do not know how things are stacked for Gill or Shaw in coming future and Pant has a baby voice which is not suitable for captaincy and also his workload will be high as he also keep wickets.
Furthermore, Rahul is seen as the next Indian captain. We do not know how things are stacked for Gill or Shaw in coming future and Pant has a baby voice which is not suitable for captaincy and also his workload will be high as he also keep wickets.
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Surely you can't differentiate between Kohli and KL. Kohli learnt from his mistakes, made adjustments to his batting and improved his stats in England. You still haven't answered what has KL Rahul done in test cricket to deserve an opening spot? Any special test inning? Only you can glorify a test hundred in a dead rubber which we lost. Shows your standard. Just like Pandya he should concentrate on LOI's only.
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Surely he got more than enough chances to prove his doubters wrong? He was supposed to be the next Kohli in tests.
Surely you can't differentiate between Kohli and KL. Kohli learnt from his mistakes, made adjustments to his batting and improved his stats in England. You still haven't answered what has KL Rahul done in test cricket to deserve an opening spot? Any special test inning? Only you can glorify a test hundred in a dead rubber which we lost. Shows your standard. Just like Pandya he should concentrate on LOI's only.
Oh trust me I can very well differentiate between Kohli and Rahul. Infact I was not drawing a parallel among them but was just rebutting your bogus logic that just bcoz Rahul failed in one series in Eng, he cant be a successful opener.
You are asking me to give any special test innings by him but have you seen him bat when Australia toured India in 2018? Steve Smith and Lokesh Rahul were best bats on those tricky pitches. Now you will say why giving example of 3 years ago...that is because he has not played any test cricket since 2018 for us to judge.
Since then India has tried Mayank, Rohit, Shaw, Gill, Vihari everyone as opener. My point is...why not give Rahul another chance? What is the harm in trying?
There is something called eye to spot a talent and by God's of grace I have that in plenty. Remember I told you how Pandya and Pant will be MVP for us before our tour to Australia and how you used to bring their semi final failure again and again?
Similarly I have seen something in Rahul (wont reveal what) which makes me firmly believe that he will be a top class test opener...atleast better than the ones we are playing now. Its just a case of when Rajdeep speaks...you listen thats all.
Anyway, you dont have to worry about it much for now because Rahul wont be opening this series thanks to our clueless captain. It will be Mayank-Rohit with Eswaran as backup. So chill.
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You have an eye for talent lol? I was the one who said that KL should be dropped from test team after last England tour when fans like you were celebrating his century in a lost dead rubber match. He failed against West Indies and was eventually dropped. He is still finding his way into the test team now. Team management has lost confidence in him. When guys like you were saying that Pandya can play as a specialist test batsman in the team I was the one who said that if he stops bowling he will be thrown out of the team. Look what happened. Even Shardul is preferred over him in test team. The way Pant played in the WTC final I am not too sure about his performance against England in England too.
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Surely he got more than enough chances to prove his doubters wrong? He was supposed to be the next Kohli in tests.
Averages alone is not enough to discard a player. KL Rahul has a test century in Australia, England, West Indies and Sri Lanka. He is 29 year old.
Rohit Sharma has zero test hundred outside India. He is 36 years old.
I would rather lose a test match overseas with a talented 29 year old than a 36 year old.
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London: The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) is working on COVID-19 protocols to organise a warm-up game for the touring Indian team against ‘Combined Counties’ side in the third week of July as a tune-up for the first Test in Nottingham starting August 4.
The three-day match, which might be accorded first-class status, will pit the Indian team against a ‘Select County XI’ which in earlier times was known as ‘Combined Counties’. The tentative date could be between July 20-22.
“We are aware of a request from the BCCI to play a three-day warm-up match against a County Select XI as part of the Indian Men’s Test teams build-up to the five-match LV= Insurance Test series," an ECB spokesperson told PTI.
“We are working through the operations and COVID-19 protocols to ensure we are able to deliver this and will confirm in due course.
“The Indian Test team will report to Emirates Riverside, Durham for their pre-Test camp on 15 July and will prepare at the venue until 1 August before heading to Trent Bridge, Nottingham ahead of the first Test starting on 4 August," the spokesperson added.
When asked what will be the quality of the opposition considering that ‘The Hundred’ is starting from July 23, the spokesperson said: “It will be players that aren’t in ‘The Hundred’ and we will look to select strongest squad available," ECB said.
The Indians looked under-cooked during the Word Test Championship final against New Zealand after playing just one intra-squad game in the build-up which many experts like Sunil Gavaskar and Alastair Cook felt was not enough before a high-intensity game.
In fact, skipper Virat Kohli, after the lost final, had expressed his displeasure at not being given a first-class game and BCCI had requested the ECB for a practice game.
The Indian team management has understood that it is not possible to prepare well without a proper first-class or at least a warm-up game against an opposition side.
As Cook pointed out during a show on BBC Test Match Special, “Intra-squad games, as good as your intention might be, it hasn’t got the same intensity."
“First hour might be really competitive but everything goes less and less and less. India were hard done by that way," Cook opined.
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...county-xi-ahead-of-series-opener-3918248.html
The three-day match, which might be accorded first-class status, will pit the Indian team against a ‘Select County XI’ which in earlier times was known as ‘Combined Counties’. The tentative date could be between July 20-22.
“We are aware of a request from the BCCI to play a three-day warm-up match against a County Select XI as part of the Indian Men’s Test teams build-up to the five-match LV= Insurance Test series," an ECB spokesperson told PTI.
“We are working through the operations and COVID-19 protocols to ensure we are able to deliver this and will confirm in due course.
“The Indian Test team will report to Emirates Riverside, Durham for their pre-Test camp on 15 July and will prepare at the venue until 1 August before heading to Trent Bridge, Nottingham ahead of the first Test starting on 4 August," the spokesperson added.
When asked what will be the quality of the opposition considering that ‘The Hundred’ is starting from July 23, the spokesperson said: “It will be players that aren’t in ‘The Hundred’ and we will look to select strongest squad available," ECB said.
The Indians looked under-cooked during the Word Test Championship final against New Zealand after playing just one intra-squad game in the build-up which many experts like Sunil Gavaskar and Alastair Cook felt was not enough before a high-intensity game.
In fact, skipper Virat Kohli, after the lost final, had expressed his displeasure at not being given a first-class game and BCCI had requested the ECB for a practice game.
The Indian team management has understood that it is not possible to prepare well without a proper first-class or at least a warm-up game against an opposition side.
As Cook pointed out during a show on BBC Test Match Special, “Intra-squad games, as good as your intention might be, it hasn’t got the same intensity."
“First hour might be really competitive but everything goes less and less and less. India were hard done by that way," Cook opined.
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...county-xi-ahead-of-series-opener-3918248.html
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The entire lineup tries to play like that. Unfortunately, this a bigger issue and I've seen a lot of people in India support this. In fact, I believe even Kohli said it was on tendulkar"s advice that he started looking to play the ball early.
Yeah, I've seen Tendulkar batting well outside his batting crease during his career. However he didn't overdo it.
Also the guy was Tendulkar, he could do whatever he thought was right for him, he was a walking batting encyclopaedia. Doesn't mean lesser mortals too can copy him.
They're not good enough to bat like the way Tendulkar batted!
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Team India to demand Prithvi Shaw's inclusion in England Tests as Shubman Gill's replacement: Report
With Shubman Gill unlikely to play a role in the 5-match Test series against England, Team India is reportedly looking to bring in Prithvi Shaw as his replacement.
From being out of the reckoning in the Indian team to now being wanted in two separate Indian teams, Prithvi Shaw's fate has witnessed a dramatic u-turn. The attacking opening batsman was snubbed for a spot in the Indian team for the tour of the United Kingdom but selected for the parallel limited-overs series against Sri Lanka. But following the injury to Shubman Gill, the Indian team management is looking to bring Shaw to England for the 5-match Test series.
As per a report in the Times of India, Shubman Gill is likely to be flown back home, with two shin splints, and would not be a part of the entire Test series. While it was believed that Gill had injured himself during a training session, the TOI report claims that the shin splints happened due to the off-field training workload.
It is now certain that Gill would be out of action for about 8 weeks and hence the Indian team is eager to rope in a replacement for the much-talked-about England series.
Mayank Agarwal, Abhimanyu Easwaran and KL Rahul are designated opening batsmen and are all part of India's 24-member squad in the UK. While the suggestions of deploying Hanuma Vihari as an opening batsman have also been made, the team management is said to be keen on availing the services of Prithvi Shaw, who is in Sri Lanka.
"Here is a batsman in absolute form right now, playing an inconsequential series (in Sri Lanka) whereas he can be in England and the team will have a cushion to fall back on. It's been five days now and the selectors haven't even blinked yet," sources tracking the developments told TOI.
Shaw was dropped from the Indian Test team after disappointing tours of New Zealand and Australia. Since then, the young opener has shown incredible form in the Vijay Hazare Trophy as well as the first half of the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 campaign.
KL Rahul not seen as an opening option
Now, the Indian team management reportedly wants Shaw on the tour of England 'as early as possible' as they are not keen on using KL Rahul as an opener. Rahul is reportedly being seen as a middle-order batsman and hence the team needs an additional option at the top of the batting order.
Rohit Sharma and Mayank Agarwal would be the opening pair, to begin with, but an injury or fitness concern with any one of them would force the team to include Easwaran in the XI, an option that the management isn't keen on.
"As against having to fall back on a batsman (Easwaran) who last did his bit in the First-Class circuit more than two seasons ago and not many have seen much of lately, isn't it more sensible to have a batsman (Prithvi) who's in form and the elements to his batting well-documented already? The team knows Prithvi, understands Prithvi. If they think he should be in England, then there's no reason why the BCCI should not be sending him," say those in the know.
Shaw would need to undergo quarantine procedures if he needs to be available from the first match of the 5-match Test series against England. The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), hence, needs to take a call quickly.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/team-india-to-demand-prithvi-shaws-inclusion-in-england-tests-as-shubman-gills-replacement-report/779662
With Shubman Gill unlikely to play a role in the 5-match Test series against England, Team India is reportedly looking to bring in Prithvi Shaw as his replacement.
From being out of the reckoning in the Indian team to now being wanted in two separate Indian teams, Prithvi Shaw's fate has witnessed a dramatic u-turn. The attacking opening batsman was snubbed for a spot in the Indian team for the tour of the United Kingdom but selected for the parallel limited-overs series against Sri Lanka. But following the injury to Shubman Gill, the Indian team management is looking to bring Shaw to England for the 5-match Test series.
As per a report in the Times of India, Shubman Gill is likely to be flown back home, with two shin splints, and would not be a part of the entire Test series. While it was believed that Gill had injured himself during a training session, the TOI report claims that the shin splints happened due to the off-field training workload.
It is now certain that Gill would be out of action for about 8 weeks and hence the Indian team is eager to rope in a replacement for the much-talked-about England series.
Mayank Agarwal, Abhimanyu Easwaran and KL Rahul are designated opening batsmen and are all part of India's 24-member squad in the UK. While the suggestions of deploying Hanuma Vihari as an opening batsman have also been made, the team management is said to be keen on availing the services of Prithvi Shaw, who is in Sri Lanka.
"Here is a batsman in absolute form right now, playing an inconsequential series (in Sri Lanka) whereas he can be in England and the team will have a cushion to fall back on. It's been five days now and the selectors haven't even blinked yet," sources tracking the developments told TOI.
Shaw was dropped from the Indian Test team after disappointing tours of New Zealand and Australia. Since then, the young opener has shown incredible form in the Vijay Hazare Trophy as well as the first half of the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021 campaign.
KL Rahul not seen as an opening option
Now, the Indian team management reportedly wants Shaw on the tour of England 'as early as possible' as they are not keen on using KL Rahul as an opener. Rahul is reportedly being seen as a middle-order batsman and hence the team needs an additional option at the top of the batting order.
Rohit Sharma and Mayank Agarwal would be the opening pair, to begin with, but an injury or fitness concern with any one of them would force the team to include Easwaran in the XI, an option that the management isn't keen on.
"As against having to fall back on a batsman (Easwaran) who last did his bit in the First-Class circuit more than two seasons ago and not many have seen much of lately, isn't it more sensible to have a batsman (Prithvi) who's in form and the elements to his batting well-documented already? The team knows Prithvi, understands Prithvi. If they think he should be in England, then there's no reason why the BCCI should not be sending him," say those in the know.
Shaw would need to undergo quarantine procedures if he needs to be available from the first match of the 5-match Test series against England. The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), hence, needs to take a call quickly.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/team-india-to-demand-prithvi-shaws-inclusion-in-england-tests-as-shubman-gills-replacement-report/779662
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At this point, the limited overs leg is more important for Shaw than just being a part of 20 man squad for England test tour.
If he can be sent to England after finishing the Sri Lanka tour, then he should be considered. I think in that case, he can join the England tour from 3rd test onwards. However, for England conditions, he is not a good choice to have.
With Gill's absence, I would fall on Vihari as Rohit's opening partner because I don't see KL as test opener either.
Rohit
Vihari
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant(wkt)
Jadeja
Ashwin/ Shardul
Siraj
Ishant
Bumrah/Shami
Other options:-
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This is the best 15- man choice we have got. Rest will be there for just filling numbers.
If he can be sent to England after finishing the Sri Lanka tour, then he should be considered. I think in that case, he can join the England tour from 3rd test onwards. However, for England conditions, he is not a good choice to have.
With Gill's absence, I would fall on Vihari as Rohit's opening partner because I don't see KL as test opener either.
Rohit
Vihari
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant(wkt)
Jadeja
Ashwin/ Shardul
Siraj
Ishant
Bumrah/Shami
Other options:-
KL Rahul
Washington
This is the best 15- man choice we have got. Rest will be there for just filling numbers.
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Rohit is 34 not 36 and he has played only 40 tests. Rahul on the other hand has already played 36 tests and averages just 34. I won't blame you for wanting to lose a test match with KL Rahul because you have a habit of blind worshipping below average cricketers. KL played all 5 tests in England last time. I don't think team management will repeat the same mistake again.
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Lol it seems you have two different rules for two different players. You are ready to lose a test match with a talented 29 year old but have already made up your mind that a talented 21 year old isn't a good choice to have in England? I mean someone who played all 5 tests last time and failed deserves another chance but a guy who didn't even play a single test in England should be discarded already?
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Shaw doesn't have the game to perform in England conditions. Vihari is a better option as opener for England.
Rahul is good enough to bat at 5 but don't think Rahane will be dropped, so he will have to wait.
Last time around in Adelaide after 36 all-out, I got it absolutely right as I asked for inclusion of Gill and Pant over Shaw and Saha and Indian fans were rewarded with a 2-1 India series win in Australia, especially the memorable win in Gabba.
In comparison, the deluded guy had to bear some of the toughest times in next few months just like how Tim Paine had to dealt with one from the Australian cricket board and their fans after the "Can't want to see you at GABBA, Ash" fiasco.
Rahul is good enough to bat at 5 but don't think Rahane will be dropped, so he will have to wait.
Last time around in Adelaide after 36 all-out, I got it absolutely right as I asked for inclusion of Gill and Pant over Shaw and Saha and Indian fans were rewarded with a 2-1 India series win in Australia, especially the memorable win in Gabba.
In comparison, the deluded guy had to bear some of the toughest times in next few months just like how Tim Paine had to dealt with one from the Australian cricket board and their fans after the "Can't want to see you at GABBA, Ash" fiasco.
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LMAO you are talking as if you knew India will win the series after getting all out for 36. Half of you ran away from here and only came back in third test lol. Pant was lucky that he didn't play in that 36 all out game and Saha, Shaw were made the scapegoat for that loss. Indian series win also had to do with Rahane captaining and Australia(particularly Paine) dropping catches.
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What a pathetic loser this KLR has become.
First strike rate is overrated nonsense while playing match losing knocks one after another...
And now this.
Sad to see him go this route.
If only he develops a spine and focuses on achievong his immense potential.
What a pathetic loser this KLR has become.
First strike rate is overrated nonsense while playing match losing knocks one after another...
And now this.
Sad to see him go this route.
If only he develops a spine and focuses on achievong his immense potential.
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How many more tests are you willing to give him in England this time? He played all 5 tests last time. [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] wants him to open again whereas [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] won't even mind losing a test match if KL Rahul is picked ahead of Rohit Sharma.
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How many more tests are you willing to give him in England this time? He played all 5 tests last time. [MENTION=152021]Rajdeep[/MENTION] wants him to open again whereas [MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] won't even mind losing a test match if KL Rahul is picked ahead of Rohit Sharma.
Depends on whether he has sorted his issues.
If he has, he can really make a mark.
This guy used to score 100s on green mambas in domestic.
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Shaw will learn more from being in England rather than playing an irrelevant white ball series in Sri Lanka, the BCCI should be looking to send him over pronto.
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From the previous statements of Shastri & Kaptaan, it's clear that they rate Shaw very highly. But again, trusting the judgement of this combo should be at your own risk, as evident from their brainless selections in the past.
That said, KL is too inconsistent to be at the top, while Shaw for me, isn't cut for opening in tests at this point, while Rohit has own demons to battle out. So I won't be surprised if by 3rd or 4th test, we could see Vihari-Mayank opening the innings.
3-1 to England for me. Might be 4-0 as well.
P.S:- No, VK won't step down as kaptaan, even if it's 5-0.
That said, KL is too inconsistent to be at the top, while Shaw for me, isn't cut for opening in tests at this point, while Rohit has own demons to battle out. So I won't be surprised if by 3rd or 4th test, we could see Vihari-Mayank opening the innings.
3-1 to England for me. Might be 4-0 as well.
P.S:- No, VK won't step down as kaptaan, even if it's 5-0.
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Wow, these are some shocking statistics.
The most important batting positions are failing (3, 4, 5), and there is too much pressure on the openers and lower-middle order to score the bulk of runs.
Kohli's lean patch has gone on for much longer than most people anticipated, and he still lacks the confidence needed to get out of this poor form.
Pujara is getting old, and his weaknesses against the moving ball will make him an easy wicket throughout this series.
Rahane is a victim to himself, he gets settled and then throws it away with a loose shot or by a lapse in concentration.
I'd suggest that India replace Pujara for the series against England and try a few different options at that position. Rahane can't be replaced as he is the vice captain, so Pujara will unfortunately have to bear the end of the sword.
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Doesn't matter who opens with Rohit.
KL, Mayank, Vihari, Shaw all will fail if given chance. We are going to see different opening combination after second and fourth game.
What's shocking to me is that management rates Shaw this much higher.
If they want to sideline selected backup openers to fit Shaw, why he wasn't sent to England in first place.
Very insulting situation for KL, Mayank and Vihari.
KL, Mayank, Vihari, Shaw all will fail if given chance. We are going to see different opening combination after second and fourth game.
What's shocking to me is that management rates Shaw this much higher.
If they want to sideline selected backup openers to fit Shaw, why he wasn't sent to England in first place.
Very insulting situation for KL, Mayank and Vihari.
Vihari is not an opener. KL's time as an opener in test cricket should be over (along with T20 for the time being). Mayank has effed up his technique. If he has rectified it, he should be given another opportunity or he can keep warming the benches.
Shaw was in terrible form last year and it has improved now. We can't judge him on the basis of just one NZ tour where everybody failed even NZ batsman. He would develop much more playing in England than he would by bullying the Lankans.
Shaw was in terrible form last year and it has improved now. We can't judge him on the basis of just one NZ tour where everybody failed even NZ batsman. He would develop much more playing in England than he would by bullying the Lankans.
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Rohit and Vihari should be opener. Vihari has been given a decent run now. This is now his time to make it count and he shouldn't be left over after given decent run. Give him full confidence and proper run like how Jadeja got for years. He should be used as top order batsman so in some time, he can take over the role of no.3 from Pujara.
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Indian opener Shubman Gill has been ruled out of the entire Test series against England due to an injury. Gill has suffered a shin stress fracture which is likely to keep him out of action for the next three months. Gill was India's first-choice opener with senior batsman Rohit Sharma in the World Test Championship (WTC) final against New Zealand.
However, he is unlikely to feature in the upcoming five-match Test series against England which gets underway from next month. A BCCI official recently confirmed that Gill's injury is expected to take at least three months to heal and that the team management has already requested for two openers to be sent to the UK.
“Shubman Gill has been ruled out of the entire Test series in the UK with shin splints that will take minimum of three months to heal. The team’s administrative manager, at the end of last month, had sent an e-mailed requisition to former pacer Sharma asking for two more openers to be sent to the UK,” a BCCI official was quoted as saying by News18.
The two openers that are likely to be called up by the Indian team management are Prithvi Shaw and Devdutt Padikkal, both of whom were in brilliant form in the Vijay Hazare Trophy followed by the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021. While Shaw has played five Tests and 3 ODIs, Padikkal is not a capped player yet.
Both Shaw and Padikkal are currently part of the Indian squad for the upcoming limited-overs series against Sri Lanka. A second-string Indian side will take on Sri Lanka in three ODIs and three T20Is in the absence of the likes of Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Jasprit Bumrah, who are currently in England.
However, the chairman of selectors Chetan Sharma is reportedly not in agreement with the team management for calling Shaw and Padikkal to England, and BCCI has not received a formal request yet to send the two players. The duo will leave for England after the conclusion of the Sri Lanka series on July 26 if they are called up.
“The BCCI president hasn’t yet received any formal request about sending Shaw and Padikkal to the United Kingdom. They are in Sri Lanka for the white ball series but obviously after it ends on July 26, both can be flown in. But I think, team management wants them to join before entering the bio-bubble in Durham,” the BCCI source added.
Team India already have Mayank Agarwal and Abhimanyu Easwaran as two backup openers in the Test squad for the England series.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...evdutt-padikkal-likely-to-be-called-up/780676
However, he is unlikely to feature in the upcoming five-match Test series against England which gets underway from next month. A BCCI official recently confirmed that Gill's injury is expected to take at least three months to heal and that the team management has already requested for two openers to be sent to the UK.
“Shubman Gill has been ruled out of the entire Test series in the UK with shin splints that will take minimum of three months to heal. The team’s administrative manager, at the end of last month, had sent an e-mailed requisition to former pacer Sharma asking for two more openers to be sent to the UK,” a BCCI official was quoted as saying by News18.
The two openers that are likely to be called up by the Indian team management are Prithvi Shaw and Devdutt Padikkal, both of whom were in brilliant form in the Vijay Hazare Trophy followed by the Indian Premier League (IPL) 2021. While Shaw has played five Tests and 3 ODIs, Padikkal is not a capped player yet.
Both Shaw and Padikkal are currently part of the Indian squad for the upcoming limited-overs series against Sri Lanka. A second-string Indian side will take on Sri Lanka in three ODIs and three T20Is in the absence of the likes of Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma and Jasprit Bumrah, who are currently in England.
However, the chairman of selectors Chetan Sharma is reportedly not in agreement with the team management for calling Shaw and Padikkal to England, and BCCI has not received a formal request yet to send the two players. The duo will leave for England after the conclusion of the Sri Lanka series on July 26 if they are called up.
“The BCCI president hasn’t yet received any formal request about sending Shaw and Padikkal to the United Kingdom. They are in Sri Lanka for the white ball series but obviously after it ends on July 26, both can be flown in. But I think, team management wants them to join before entering the bio-bubble in Durham,” the BCCI source added.
Team India already have Mayank Agarwal and Abhimanyu Easwaran as two backup openers in the Test squad for the England series.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...evdutt-padikkal-likely-to-be-called-up/780676
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It's pretty apparent that there's tension between the selectors and the coaches over the selection of Abhimanyu Easwaran, who is seen as not being good enough for test cricket. It's another case of the selectors forcing their choice on to the team without any consultation. This situation as we have seen many times in the past is hardly ideal.
If Shastri and Kohli's request to have Shaw and Paddikal sent over to the UK as reserve opening batsmen is not accepted by the BCCI, expect them to play Agarwal or Vihari as openers through the tour.
If Shastri and Kohli's request to have Shaw and Paddikal sent over to the UK as reserve opening batsmen is not accepted by the BCCI, expect them to play Agarwal or Vihari as openers through the tour.
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Man, this Indian test team has become a mess too.
Damn.
Just when you look forward to a marquee series, you have captaincy issues, team issues, confusion, etc.....
I sure hope I am proven wrong but at this point, England have to play awful for us to win.
We need a complete overhaul of the system.
Damn.
Just when you look forward to a marquee series, you have captaincy issues, team issues, confusion, etc.....
I sure hope I am proven wrong but at this point, England have to play awful for us to win.
We need a complete overhaul of the system.
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Heck, if not for Pant, Washington and Rohit, England might have humiliated us at home 2021.
That's how unstable our batting has become.
That's how unstable our batting has become.
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Don't think this needs hand-wringing. This is just a case of an opener being replaced.
anyway India is not overly dependent upon Gill.
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India vs England: Mohammed Siraj Expected To Replace Ishant Sharma In Tests In England
Mohammed Siraj (AFP Photo)Mohammed Siraj (AFP Photo)
Mohammed Siraj will in all likelihood find a place in the Indian XI when the five-Test series against England commences from the 4th of August.
Mohammed Siraj is expected to replace Ishant Sharma in the playing XI when the five-Test series between India and England commences from early August next month. Siraj did not play in the final of the World Test Championship (WTC) against New Zealand in Southampton and that had raised a lot of questions on the composition of the side given the helpful conditions in England.
India had decided to change their overseas combination and went in with 5 bowlers at Southampton. But with both R Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja in the XI, they opted for the experience of Ishant Sharma over Mohammed Siraj in the XI. While Ishant did pick three big wickets in the first innings, a lot of pundits and analysts felt that Siraj would have been more threatening in the helpful conditions in Southampton.
The Indian pace attack could not dismantle the lower-order and tail quickly which meant that New Zealand scored invaluable runs and took a vital first innings lead in the match. Also, chasing 139 in the fourth innings, the Indian pace trio was ineffective and could not pick a single wicket between them as New Zealand went on to win by 8 wickets.
Siraj had a great start to his Test career and showed great character and skill rising to the occasion in Australia. With the quartet of Shami, Bumrah, Ishant and Umesh Yadav not being available or sustaining injuries through the course of the series, it was Siraj who took charge and led the pace attack and returned as the highest wicket-taker for India in the historic series which they went on to win 2-1.
Overall, Siraj has played 5 Tests and picked 16 wickets at an average of 28.25 and economy rate of under 3.
He bowls an immaculate line and length at a brisk pace and also has the ability to move and ball around in English conditions.
Sources in the BCCI realised that India may have missed a trick by not picking Siraj in the XI for Southampton and have given indications that he will be a definite starter for the five-Test series against England. The chances of both Ashwin and Jadeja playing the course of the series are bleak but even if that were the case, one of Ishant or even Bumrah may sit out of the XI to accommodate Siraj.
“Even if the team management intends to stick with R Ashwin and Ravi Jadeja in the eleven, Siraj will probably replace Ishant (Sharma). But he’s in, and that’s certain,” state sources.
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/india-vs-england-mohammed-siraj-expected-to-replace-ishant-sharma-in-tests-in-england-3938900.html
Mohammed Siraj (AFP Photo)Mohammed Siraj (AFP Photo)
Mohammed Siraj will in all likelihood find a place in the Indian XI when the five-Test series against England commences from the 4th of August.
Mohammed Siraj is expected to replace Ishant Sharma in the playing XI when the five-Test series between India and England commences from early August next month. Siraj did not play in the final of the World Test Championship (WTC) against New Zealand in Southampton and that had raised a lot of questions on the composition of the side given the helpful conditions in England.
India had decided to change their overseas combination and went in with 5 bowlers at Southampton. But with both R Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja in the XI, they opted for the experience of Ishant Sharma over Mohammed Siraj in the XI. While Ishant did pick three big wickets in the first innings, a lot of pundits and analysts felt that Siraj would have been more threatening in the helpful conditions in Southampton.
The Indian pace attack could not dismantle the lower-order and tail quickly which meant that New Zealand scored invaluable runs and took a vital first innings lead in the match. Also, chasing 139 in the fourth innings, the Indian pace trio was ineffective and could not pick a single wicket between them as New Zealand went on to win by 8 wickets.
Siraj had a great start to his Test career and showed great character and skill rising to the occasion in Australia. With the quartet of Shami, Bumrah, Ishant and Umesh Yadav not being available or sustaining injuries through the course of the series, it was Siraj who took charge and led the pace attack and returned as the highest wicket-taker for India in the historic series which they went on to win 2-1.
Overall, Siraj has played 5 Tests and picked 16 wickets at an average of 28.25 and economy rate of under 3.
He bowls an immaculate line and length at a brisk pace and also has the ability to move and ball around in English conditions.
Sources in the BCCI realised that India may have missed a trick by not picking Siraj in the XI for Southampton and have given indications that he will be a definite starter for the five-Test series against England. The chances of both Ashwin and Jadeja playing the course of the series are bleak but even if that were the case, one of Ishant or even Bumrah may sit out of the XI to accommodate Siraj.
“Even if the team management intends to stick with R Ashwin and Ravi Jadeja in the eleven, Siraj will probably replace Ishant (Sharma). But he’s in, and that’s certain,” state sources.
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/india-vs-england-mohammed-siraj-expected-to-replace-ishant-sharma-in-tests-in-england-3938900.html
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Just replace VK as Captain, & this same team shall start looking completely different, without changing/adding any other player.
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New Delhi: The last few days have seen a lot of talk around the Indian team management's call for a replacement for injured opener Shubman Gill and the national selectors' refusal to send any more players considering the touring party already has enough back-up players.
While there have also been unnecessary questions raised on whether the selection committee initially refused to pay heed to the request from the team, a senior board official has said that the whole episode could have been avoided if the manager had written to either the secretary or the acting CEO.
Speaking to ANI, the official said that the manager should have followed the protocol and written to either Jay Shah or Hemang Amin and the confusion could have very well been avoided.
"It is time for the team management to focus on the tour after the break. There has been a lot of chatter around this whole replacement business and the email from the team management to the chairman of selectors, which has apparently caused confusion in the minds of a lot of people except possibly the team management and the selectors. "I think this is on account of the fact that the team manager addressed the email to the chairman of selectors rather than to the BCCI's acting CEO or the secretary," the official explained.
"It is very simple, when you are on tour, if there is any requirement or difficulty, you are to speak or write to the secretary or the CEO or their office since they are your point of contact. You have to keep in mind that this is the Indian team's tour and not a private tour and a system has to be followed.
"If funds are required, you do not just speak to the accountant and request a funds transfer because till the approvals are in place the chat would not mean anything, there is a system of checks and balances. Similarly, the selection committee is not empowered to unilaterally take a decision on the basis of an email. However, the selection committee can -- if they feel the necessity -- request the board if they wish to make changes and the board does usually accord approval for this."
Elaborating further on why following the process was important in this case, the official said: "In the recent past a request for replacement has usually been discussed with the selection committee verbally and where the committee has agreed with the views of the team management they have taken up the matter with the board. In this case, too there was a verbal discussion and specific names were requested and the selectors had not agreed with the views of the team management. Therefore, if a mail had then to be written, it ought to have been to the acting CEO or the secretary."
Explaining how there was a lapse in decision-making on part of the team management, the official said: "I am sure Girish Dongre and the Team Director and the captain who are marked on the email are well aware of the process as well. Therefore, this does not appear to be a well thought out decision to send out this email in this manner. This ought to have been avoided because you do not need this sort of a precursor to the tour."
There has also been a trend in the recent past wherein the previous selection committee under the Committee of Administrators accepted every demand of the team management. The official explained that while it is all fair when decisions are taken in unison by both parties involved, the final call should always lie with only the selectors.
"Over the last year the selection committee has been giving the team management the replacements they have asked for and that is because of the fact that the choice of the selection committee has been coinciding with the choice of the team management. "They would however do well to accept the fact that it is not the job of the team management to select the squad or to insist on specific players as that can prove to be deeply conflicted decision making. That job is of the selection committee alone and even the office bearers cannot play a role in the selection," the official said.
The official further pointed that differences in views should be taken in the right spirit and not seen as a breakdown in communication. "It is no surprise that the one time that there is a divergence in views, stories with motives being attributed to selectors start appearing and this must be avoided as this is unhealthy for Indian cricket and for the team management," the official said.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...n-shubman-gill-replacement-controversy/782449
While there have also been unnecessary questions raised on whether the selection committee initially refused to pay heed to the request from the team, a senior board official has said that the whole episode could have been avoided if the manager had written to either the secretary or the acting CEO.
Speaking to ANI, the official said that the manager should have followed the protocol and written to either Jay Shah or Hemang Amin and the confusion could have very well been avoided.
"It is time for the team management to focus on the tour after the break. There has been a lot of chatter around this whole replacement business and the email from the team management to the chairman of selectors, which has apparently caused confusion in the minds of a lot of people except possibly the team management and the selectors. "I think this is on account of the fact that the team manager addressed the email to the chairman of selectors rather than to the BCCI's acting CEO or the secretary," the official explained.
"It is very simple, when you are on tour, if there is any requirement or difficulty, you are to speak or write to the secretary or the CEO or their office since they are your point of contact. You have to keep in mind that this is the Indian team's tour and not a private tour and a system has to be followed.
"If funds are required, you do not just speak to the accountant and request a funds transfer because till the approvals are in place the chat would not mean anything, there is a system of checks and balances. Similarly, the selection committee is not empowered to unilaterally take a decision on the basis of an email. However, the selection committee can -- if they feel the necessity -- request the board if they wish to make changes and the board does usually accord approval for this."
Elaborating further on why following the process was important in this case, the official said: "In the recent past a request for replacement has usually been discussed with the selection committee verbally and where the committee has agreed with the views of the team management they have taken up the matter with the board. In this case, too there was a verbal discussion and specific names were requested and the selectors had not agreed with the views of the team management. Therefore, if a mail had then to be written, it ought to have been to the acting CEO or the secretary."
Explaining how there was a lapse in decision-making on part of the team management, the official said: "I am sure Girish Dongre and the Team Director and the captain who are marked on the email are well aware of the process as well. Therefore, this does not appear to be a well thought out decision to send out this email in this manner. This ought to have been avoided because you do not need this sort of a precursor to the tour."
There has also been a trend in the recent past wherein the previous selection committee under the Committee of Administrators accepted every demand of the team management. The official explained that while it is all fair when decisions are taken in unison by both parties involved, the final call should always lie with only the selectors.
"Over the last year the selection committee has been giving the team management the replacements they have asked for and that is because of the fact that the choice of the selection committee has been coinciding with the choice of the team management. "They would however do well to accept the fact that it is not the job of the team management to select the squad or to insist on specific players as that can prove to be deeply conflicted decision making. That job is of the selection committee alone and even the office bearers cannot play a role in the selection," the official said.
The official further pointed that differences in views should be taken in the right spirit and not seen as a breakdown in communication. "It is no surprise that the one time that there is a divergence in views, stories with motives being attributed to selectors start appearing and this must be avoided as this is unhealthy for Indian cricket and for the team management," the official said.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...n-shubman-gill-replacement-controversy/782449
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The selectors are grandstanding against Kohli and Shastri, another pointless power struggle.
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This Indian team management is pretty funny lol. They want Prithvi Shaw who was kicked out after just one match(36 all out) by the same team management? This also shows they have no confidence in other openers and will most probably blame selectors if we lose this series.
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Ollie Pope has been ruled out until England's Test series against India after suffering a left thigh muscle injury.
Pope sustained the injury while batting during Surrey's Vitality Blast match against Kent Spitfires on July 2.
"The ECB and Surrey fitness teams will work together to deliver Pope's rehabilitation with a focus for him to be available to return for the first Test against India," read an ECB statement.
Pope now faces a race against time to be fit for the five-match Test series against India, which begins at Trent Bridge on August 4.
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Pope sustained the injury while batting during Surrey's Vitality Blast match against Kent Spitfires on July 2.
"The ECB and Surrey fitness teams will work together to deliver Pope's rehabilitation with a focus for him to be available to return for the first Test against India," read an ECB statement.
Pope now faces a race against time to be fit for the five-match Test series against India, which begins at Trent Bridge on August 4.
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has been ruled out or not?Conflicting statement.
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He has been ruled out of any action (probably domestic/county/Hundred) until the England test series starts. Meaning he may feature in the test series if he's fit.
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Ollie Pope has been ruled out until England's Test series against India after suffering a left thigh muscle injury.
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Really?
Openers no clarity.
Middle order - Pujara, Kohli, Rahane - no clarity.
Who are your swing bowlers? No clarity.
Are you going with 2 spinners/ARs or Shardul and one spinner (who will you drop)? - No clarity.
That's pretty much the entire 11 lol.
Literally no one except Kohli and Pant has a guaranteed spot right now. And Kohli makes it just cos he is a captain. Performance wise, he should be the first one dropped.
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I know some things work out with time but I said this even before the WTC finals.... just don't know who will score runs in our batting order.
Now I am hearing reports that they are going to rejig the batting order with Pujara mostly dropped.
By the way, BCCI is fuming reg Kohli's demands for the opener.
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This Indian team management is pretty funny lol. They want Prithvi Shaw who was kicked out after just one match(36 all out) by the same team management? This also shows they have no confidence in other openers and will most probably blame selectors if we lose this series.
As much as I loathe the management, there is something called "context".
Without context, anyone can be painted as an idiot.
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Chester-le-Street: Virat Kohli-led Indian side will play a three-day warm-up match, beginning on July 20 against a County Championship XI to prepare for the upcoming Test series against England in August.
The world number two Test side will use Emirates Riverside as a home venue for their preparations this summer and will get underway with a three-day game against a county select on July at 11 am (local time).
"Durham Cricket are delighted to announce that Emirates Riverside will host India against a County Championship XI as the tourists prepare for their test series against England later this summer," a release from Durham Cricket stated on Wednesday.
According to the statement, the three-day game will see a number of players from the county circuit feature as they go up against the Indian national side.
Play will get underway at 11 am on Tuesday with 90 overs scheduled per day with the game being played strictly behind closed doors.
Earlier in the month, ANI had reported that the Indian team will play a warm-up game from July 20 to 22 against a team that is being arranged by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
With the team wanting to test themselves in a practice game rather than two intra-squad games before the series gets underway, the BCCI spoke to the ECB and the same worked out.
While speaking to the media in the virtual press conference at the end of the World Test Championship final against New Zealand, Kohli had said his side wanted first-class games ahead of the series against England, but they have not been given that.
"Well, that doesn't depend on us. We obviously wanted first-class games, which I believe have not been given to us. I don't know what the reasons for that are. But yeah, other than that I think our preparation time will be ample for us to be ready for the first Test," said Kohli.
Also, India opener Shubman Gill has been ruled out for eight weeks after he suffered a shin injury post the final encounter at Ageas Bowl in Southampton.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-20-against-county-select-xi-in-durham/785189
The world number two Test side will use Emirates Riverside as a home venue for their preparations this summer and will get underway with a three-day game against a county select on July at 11 am (local time).
"Durham Cricket are delighted to announce that Emirates Riverside will host India against a County Championship XI as the tourists prepare for their test series against England later this summer," a release from Durham Cricket stated on Wednesday.
According to the statement, the three-day game will see a number of players from the county circuit feature as they go up against the Indian national side.
Play will get underway at 11 am on Tuesday with 90 overs scheduled per day with the game being played strictly behind closed doors.
Earlier in the month, ANI had reported that the Indian team will play a warm-up game from July 20 to 22 against a team that is being arranged by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
With the team wanting to test themselves in a practice game rather than two intra-squad games before the series gets underway, the BCCI spoke to the ECB and the same worked out.
While speaking to the media in the virtual press conference at the end of the World Test Championship final against New Zealand, Kohli had said his side wanted first-class games ahead of the series against England, but they have not been given that.
"Well, that doesn't depend on us. We obviously wanted first-class games, which I believe have not been given to us. I don't know what the reasons for that are. But yeah, other than that I think our preparation time will be ample for us to be ready for the first Test," said Kohli.
Also, India opener Shubman Gill has been ruled out for eight weeks after he suffered a shin injury post the final encounter at Ageas Bowl in Southampton.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-20-against-county-select-xi-in-durham/785189
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The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has received a jolt just days before the start of the Indian cricket team's warm-up games in England as one of the players from the squad has tested positive for Covid-19. With the United Kingdom no longer following stringent Covid-19 guidelines, cases have been on the rise over the past few weeks. After multiple coronavirus-positive cases came in the England camp ahead of the Pakistan series, the Indian camp has also been hit with the virus.
As per a report in InsideSport, one of the players from India's 23-man squad for the England tour has tested positive for the virus. The players had undergone RT-PCR tests on July 10 and July 14. The positive report has come from the samples taken on July 10, with the results also suggesting a case of the Delta variant. The results for the July 14 tests are yet to be received.
“All players will reassemble in Durham today. The player who has been tested positive will stay isolated. We will now not allow players to mingle around till we get reports of the test undertaken yesterday.”, a worried BCCI official told the portal on Thursday morning.
The BCCI has asked all the players and support staff who came in close contact with the player to isolate themselves for the next three days. Other than the player who has tested positive, all the players are supposed to travel to Durham, as planned. Those who need to be quarantined will then be isolated from the rest. The player who has been tested positive was reportedly spotted at crowded places during the 3-week break.
“We have asked teammates and support staff who came in contact with the player to isolate themselves for next three days. They will travel to Durham but will be asked to get in quarantine. We are just waiting for their test reports for the tests undertaken on Tuesday”, said the official.
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Another player has already recovered
As per a report in ANI, a total of two cases have emerged in the Indian camp so far. One player who had returned a positive result has already recovered having been tested negative.
"Luckily, there is nothing to worry as one of the players has already returned negative since testing positive, the other player will be tested on Sunday and is currently in isolation. He is asymptomatic as well and we are confident that he can join the camp soon after negative reports," the source said.
"As of now, they are all fine, but we will be testing them regularly and following strict protocols. Safety of the players is always the priority," the source said.
The Indian cricket team is set to play a 3-day practice Test against Select County XI from July 20. Because of the Covid-19 case in the team, a few players could be unavailable for the match.
The BCCI, Indian camp and fans would be keeping their fingers crossed hoping for no more Covid-19 positive case from the samples that were taken on July 14. A few more cases could put India's pre-series plans in jeopardy.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...thers-to-isolate-for-three-days-report/785178
As per a report in InsideSport, one of the players from India's 23-man squad for the England tour has tested positive for the virus. The players had undergone RT-PCR tests on July 10 and July 14. The positive report has come from the samples taken on July 10, with the results also suggesting a case of the Delta variant. The results for the July 14 tests are yet to be received.
“All players will reassemble in Durham today. The player who has been tested positive will stay isolated. We will now not allow players to mingle around till we get reports of the test undertaken yesterday.”, a worried BCCI official told the portal on Thursday morning.
The BCCI has asked all the players and support staff who came in close contact with the player to isolate themselves for the next three days. Other than the player who has tested positive, all the players are supposed to travel to Durham, as planned. Those who need to be quarantined will then be isolated from the rest. The player who has been tested positive was reportedly spotted at crowded places during the 3-week break.
“We have asked teammates and support staff who came in contact with the player to isolate themselves for next three days. They will travel to Durham but will be asked to get in quarantine. We are just waiting for their test reports for the tests undertaken on Tuesday”, said the official.
ICC has announced schedule, points system of WTC 2021-23ICC announces points system, fixtures of World Test Championship 2021-23
Another player has already recovered
As per a report in ANI, a total of two cases have emerged in the Indian camp so far. One player who had returned a positive result has already recovered having been tested negative.
"Luckily, there is nothing to worry as one of the players has already returned negative since testing positive, the other player will be tested on Sunday and is currently in isolation. He is asymptomatic as well and we are confident that he can join the camp soon after negative reports," the source said.
"As of now, they are all fine, but we will be testing them regularly and following strict protocols. Safety of the players is always the priority," the source said.
The Indian cricket team is set to play a 3-day practice Test against Select County XI from July 20. Because of the Covid-19 case in the team, a few players could be unavailable for the match.
The BCCI, Indian camp and fans would be keeping their fingers crossed hoping for no more Covid-19 positive case from the samples that were taken on July 14. A few more cases could put India's pre-series plans in jeopardy.
https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...thers-to-isolate-for-three-days-report/785178
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Young Lions head coach Richard Dawson will oversee a County Select XI to play India at the Emirates Riverside in a three-day match, starting on Tuesday 20 July.
The match will be played behind closed doors and will form part of India’s warm-up schedule ahead of the LV= Insurance Test Series.
Warwickshire captain Will Rhodes will lead a 14-man squad which also includes recent Test debutant James Bracey and Nottinghamshire opener Haseeb Hameed, who made his Test debut against India in 2016.
The squad was selected after consulting with the first-class counties on player availability and to provide some of the high potential talent from across the county game with the opportunity to test themselves against the ICC World Test Championship finalists.
The county players will bridge into a team environment and undergo Covid testing before being cleared to play in the match.
The ECB would like to place on record its thanks to the first-class counties for their continued support to make players available for this fixtures and to Durham County Cricket Club for providing facilities for this match to be staged.
County Select XI squad: Will Rhodes (Warwickshire - captain), Rehan Ahmed (Leicestershire), Tom Aspinwell (Lancashire), Ethan Bamber (Middlesex), James Bracey (Gloucestershire), Jack Carson (Sussex), Zak Chappell (Nottinghamshire), Haseeb Hameed (Nottinghamshire), Lyndon James (Nottinghamshire), Jake Libby (Worcestershire), Craig Miles (Warwickshire), Liam Patterson-White (Nottinghamshire), James Rew (Somerset), Rob Yates (Warwickshire).
The match will be played behind closed doors and will form part of India’s warm-up schedule ahead of the LV= Insurance Test Series.
Warwickshire captain Will Rhodes will lead a 14-man squad which also includes recent Test debutant James Bracey and Nottinghamshire opener Haseeb Hameed, who made his Test debut against India in 2016.
The squad was selected after consulting with the first-class counties on player availability and to provide some of the high potential talent from across the county game with the opportunity to test themselves against the ICC World Test Championship finalists.
The county players will bridge into a team environment and undergo Covid testing before being cleared to play in the match.
The ECB would like to place on record its thanks to the first-class counties for their continued support to make players available for this fixtures and to Durham County Cricket Club for providing facilities for this match to be staged.
County Select XI squad: Will Rhodes (Warwickshire - captain), Rehan Ahmed (Leicestershire), Tom Aspinwell (Lancashire), Ethan Bamber (Middlesex), James Bracey (Gloucestershire), Jack Carson (Sussex), Zak Chappell (Nottinghamshire), Haseeb Hameed (Nottinghamshire), Lyndon James (Nottinghamshire), Jake Libby (Worcestershire), Craig Miles (Warwickshire), Liam Patterson-White (Nottinghamshire), James Rew (Somerset), Rob Yates (Warwickshire).
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Yes he can but pant definitely fit to play for 1st test or even intra- Squad match which will be starting from 28th July
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County Select XI vs Indians, 3-day warm-up match.
INDS 46/2 (14.2)
Pujara & Vihari at the crease.
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Rohit Sharma 9 (33)
Mayank Agarwal 28(35)
INDS 46/2 (14.2)
Pujara & Vihari at the crease.
Lost wickets
Rohit Sharma 9 (33)
Mayank Agarwal 28(35)
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Live from Durham Cricket YouTube channel.
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Virat Kohli, Rahane, Shami, Ishant, Ashwin rested for the practice match ahead of the England Test series.
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Thanks for letting us know
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Why Avesh and Sundar are listed for County Select X11.. lol where are the local county players.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a time to be an Indian cricket fan! There are 24 players playing for India in an ODI and a FC game right now. And Kohli, Rahane, Ashwin, Ishant, Shami aren't in those 24. The depth is insane!<br>PS: We have so many players that two are even playing for the opposition�� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SLvIND?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SLvIND</a></p>— Wasim Jaffer (@WasimJaffer14) <a href="https://twitter.com/WasimJaffer14/status/1417448767679205378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
We are getting whooped by a county Z level bowling attack on a flat pitch.
Barely doing well against SL A team.
I get where he is coming from....but this is some pathetic cheerleading.
Ek trophy win karne ka aukaat nahi hai but we keep gloating about depth. lol.
We are getting whooped by a county Z level bowling attack on a flat pitch.
Barely doing well against SL A team.
I get where he is coming from....but this is some pathetic cheerleading.
Ek trophy win karne ka aukaat nahi hai but we keep gloating about depth. lol.
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I think from the day we remove Kohli as Captain we are gonna win three four consecutive icc trophies, I know that he isn't the most tactically accomplished captain but that dude is damn unlucky too.
I now think removing him from captaincy is the solution to every problem in Indian cricket.
dunno if I am right or wrong but it just feels like it.
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Just a left side thinking (literally) how about making Washi sundar open with Rohit? The guy has the defensive technique and his left handed ness is handy in a team reliant on right handers. His bowling and fielding is a bonus.
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I think from the day we remove Kohli as Captain we are gonna win three four consecutive icc trophies, I know that he isn't the most tactically accomplished captain but that dude is damn unlucky too.
I now think removing him from captaincy is the solution to every problem in Indian cricket.
Haha....the rot goes deeper than Kohli.
But yeah removing him will be a start.
And a huge step.
Any reason why Kohli and Rahane aren't playing today's game?
Isn't this our only tour game?
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Good fifty from KL Rahul
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Good point.I was wondering a few hours ago why Sundar's name is not listed anywhere in Indian XI or even in bench, finally got to know from this post that it is listed for County select XI.
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Aparently they had stiffness & swelling.
We are being told they will recover in time for the first test.
Yay.
Terrific knock from KL Rahul. I am astonished that a batsman of such pedigree being constantly benched for much mediocre alternatives. Just go through this thread, I have time and again said he is a must for India in all formats but got mocked. Again a case of when Rajdeep speaks...you just listen. Hope he now get to play the 1st test replacing Pujara.
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In test cricket, Kohli should continue as captain. He is a fine test captain. Rahane doesn't merit a selection and there aren't other options. 3-4 years later, Kohli can pass the banton of test captaincy to KL Rahul.
It is in limited overs where I think Rohit would do much better as captain than Kohli and after giving up captaincy, Kohli can focus on his batting skills more.
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In LOI, Rohit is obvious for now. But he needs to be paired with a coach who understands modern day LOI or he will continue stats padding.
In tests, and I know I sound crazy, I think we don't need Pujara, Kohli and Rahane altogether.
Kohli as batsman sure.
But as captain, the negatives outweigh any positives he may bring and he barely brings any positives these days.
After watching the captaincy in WTC finals.....I am so done with his captaincy. There is no way in hell we would have won in Aus with him as captain.
We need to move on.
However Test team is kinda stuck.
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2016-17 KL was something else.
If that KL is coming back, we fans are in for a treat.
If that KL is coming back, we fans are in for a treat.
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Kohli shouldn't be tha captain in any format anymore, he set up a pace bowling culture in India and that's his biggest contribution which will never be forgotten but now its time to hang the boots, even his batting is getting affected, he needs to concentrate specifically on improving his batting.
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Virat Kohli Has a Stiff Back, Ajinkya Rahane Has Hamstring Trouble, Avesh Khan Hurts Finger
Captain Virat Kohli and vice captain Ajinkya Rahane are not playing India’s three-day warm-up match against Select County XI in Durham due to a stiff back and swelling in left hamstring respectively, the BCCI said on Tuesday. Kohli has stiffness in his back while Rahane has ‘mild swelling around his left upper hamstring’. In their absence, Rohit Sharma is leading India in the match.
“Captain Virat Kohli felt some stiffness in his back on late Monday evening and he has been advised rest from the three-day first-class warm-up game by the BCCI Medical Team," BCCI said in a statement.
While the board did not specify when Kohli would recover, Rahane is expected to be fit before the first Test.
“Vice-captain Ajinkya Rahane has mild swelling around his left upper hamstring. This has been addressed by an injection. He is not available for the three-day first-class warm-up game. The BCCI Medical Team is monitoring him, and he is expected to fully recover well in time for the first Test against England starting from 4th August at Nottingham."
Meanwhile, India suffered further injury scare when Avesh Khan hurt his finger while bowling in the match against Indians. He was injured when he tried to stop a ball hit by Hanuma Vihari in the 35th over. Avesh had bowled 9.5 overs for 41 runs without picking up a wicket when he walked off.
Confused? Avesh Khan and Washington Sundar are playing for the County Select XI after the ECB made a request.
“The ECB made a request to the Indian team management to let two players from the Indian contingent play for County Select XI after some of their players were deemed to be unavailable either due to injury or close contacts of a Covid-19 positive person. Accordingly, Washington Sundar and Avesh Khan have been made available to play for their team," the BCCI said.
“Team India are wearing black armbands to mourn the sad demise of former India cricketer Yashpal Sharmaji, who sadly passed away on 13th July after a cardiac arrest. Head Coach Ravi Shastri was his teammate in the 1983 World Cup winning squad."
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/virat-kohli-has-a-stiff-back-ajinkya-rahane-has-hamstring-trouble-avesh-khan-hurts-finger-3986249.html
Captain Virat Kohli and vice captain Ajinkya Rahane are not playing India’s three-day warm-up match against Select County XI in Durham due to a stiff back and swelling in left hamstring respectively, the BCCI said on Tuesday. Kohli has stiffness in his back while Rahane has ‘mild swelling around his left upper hamstring’. In their absence, Rohit Sharma is leading India in the match.
“Captain Virat Kohli felt some stiffness in his back on late Monday evening and he has been advised rest from the three-day first-class warm-up game by the BCCI Medical Team," BCCI said in a statement.
While the board did not specify when Kohli would recover, Rahane is expected to be fit before the first Test.
“Vice-captain Ajinkya Rahane has mild swelling around his left upper hamstring. This has been addressed by an injection. He is not available for the three-day first-class warm-up game. The BCCI Medical Team is monitoring him, and he is expected to fully recover well in time for the first Test against England starting from 4th August at Nottingham."
Meanwhile, India suffered further injury scare when Avesh Khan hurt his finger while bowling in the match against Indians. He was injured when he tried to stop a ball hit by Hanuma Vihari in the 35th over. Avesh had bowled 9.5 overs for 41 runs without picking up a wicket when he walked off.
Confused? Avesh Khan and Washington Sundar are playing for the County Select XI after the ECB made a request.
“The ECB made a request to the Indian team management to let two players from the Indian contingent play for County Select XI after some of their players were deemed to be unavailable either due to injury or close contacts of a Covid-19 positive person. Accordingly, Washington Sundar and Avesh Khan have been made available to play for their team," the BCCI said.
“Team India are wearing black armbands to mourn the sad demise of former India cricketer Yashpal Sharmaji, who sadly passed away on 13th July after a cardiac arrest. Head Coach Ravi Shastri was his teammate in the 1983 World Cup winning squad."
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/virat-kohli-has-a-stiff-back-ajinkya-rahane-has-hamstring-trouble-avesh-khan-hurts-finger-3986249.html
