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The Jasprit Bumrah workload myth: Is opting out of the 2nd Test against England justified?

RexRex said:
Slick psy-op by Gambhir. They all fell for it.
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Total nonsense. I have searched all over the Internet. Not one  Credible source has stated or reported bumrah playing in the 2nd test.

The truth is atm even the management does not know. All that we know is that Bumrah will only play 3 out of 5 tests which is confirmed from Bumrah himself and reconfirmed from Gambhir and BCCI.

All reports of him sitting out or him being included are juat rumors and reports.

Imo Mamoon should have waited until everything was confirmed in the same way rajdeep needs to wait until everything is confirmed.

Either way Bumrah playing 3-5 tests is hogwash. Total scam.

He could have skipped IPL and played 5 tests. The reason he didnt has nothing to do with 4 overs nonsense and more to do with :money .

Who's asking bumrah to play the upcoming 5 tests this year?
 
mominsaigol said:
He could have skipped IPL and played 5 tests. The reason he didnt has nothing to do with 4 overs nonsense and more to do with :money .
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Come to think of it .. if I was in his shoes, I'd probably have done the same.

I am disappointed at him as a fan obviously (for skipping tests) but at the end of the day .. money is what it's all about. For anyone.
 
RexRex said:
Come to think of it .. if I was in his shoes, I'd probably have done the same.

I am disappointed at him as a fan obviously (for skipping tests) but at the end of the day .. money is what it's all about. For anyone.
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The difference is he's already super duper rich lol. At one point money becomes irrelevant, in the same way Kohli isnt going to get jealous at someone like Taylor swift for being richer then him.

They both can buy almost anything, These 2 aint competing in a competiton for who can buy the most mansions.

IPL isn't going anywhere. He can easily play a later season. Infact he'd be in high demand for 2026 and it would be appropriate as well as 2026 is literally t20 season.

He has enough money for the rest of his life. He can easily skip ipl and play test vs England.

Seriously what's all that money going to do for him atm? What would he even buy? He can also fly private to a vacation in madlives if he wants even if he skips an IPL season.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Rajdeep bhai duped me again with fake news :(
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Tbf to @Rajdeep Mamoon has also pre maturely made this thread.

Their hasnt been any official update as to whether bumrah is playing the 2nd test or not.

All we know is that he will play 3 out of 5. With the current equation being 2 out of 4
 
mominsaigol said:
Tbf to @Rajdeep Mamoon has also pre maturely made this thread.

Their hasnt been any official update as to whether bumrah is playing the 2nd test or not.

All we know is that he will play 3 out of 5. With the current equation being 2 out of 4
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@Mamoon bhai served Indian cricket for more than a decade here. So little bit of premature eja....I mean celebration is fine. He has earned the right to be as critical of our cricket as he wants and we bharatiyas take it as badge of honour.

:kp
 
Rajdeep said:
@Mamoon bhai served Indian cricket for more than a decade here. So little bit of premature eja....I mean celebration is fine. He has earned the right to be as critical of our cricket as he wants and we bharatiyas take it as badge of honour.

:kp
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You take your humiliation as a badge of Honor? 🤦🏻🤦🏻
 
Fun Fact is Bumrah is the product of IPL. If not for IPL, it would have taken ages to discover such a bowler... With his strange action and fragile fitness, he would never have debuted in tests... Maybe he would have even got sidelined after playing few LOIs... (with the competition)

IPL gave him exposure to International Cricket, got inputs from International Cricketers, extensive coaching & monitoring... In simple got fast-tracked to International Cricket and Indian International Team! He learned everything quickly at the right time and in a right way! (To be honest even I didn't had much expectations from him in the beginning when he was creating magic in IPL... Felt that he would find it difficult in international cricket with bigger formats! But he surprised everyone! IPL helped him in such a way)

It is easy to ask him to ditch IPL now and play only Test Matches (basically to spend almost a retired life!) How will his brand be maintained? After 3-4 years he is anyhow not going to continue bowling (his body may not support, even if he continues he will not be effective bowler anymore!) So he is making the most of whatever he can (financially OR even statistically)

The problem here is: It is required for at least 4 quality bowlers to perform well in order to win test matches/series... You cannot expect only 1 guy to create magic every time, every innings... If other bowlers are also equally effective (like how Shami & spinners helped in WC'23 or Pandya, Arshdeep & Spinners helped in T20 world cup), then the burden on him will be lesser, he can play more matches but he can bowl lesser overs (in tests - because if wickets don't fall quickly, he has to bowl that many more overs, and its going to be hectic! Sometimes he has to bowl more overs because other bowlers are going for far too many runs- like Prasidh Krishna & Thakur were going for more than 7 rpo. He will be exhausted both physically & mentally...)

So until India finds 3 other high quality bowlers to bowl in SENA Conditions (3 seamers or 2 Seamer + 1 proper overseas wicket-taking spinner at least of the caliber of Santner/Lyon with spraying runs), India is going to struggle winning test matches overseas (now they may struggle to win even at home as we are starting to see already) and also Bumrah is going to have fitness issues...

India have lost some quality test bowlers like Ishant, Shami and also Jadeja, Ashwin became totally ineffective overseas (as bowlers)... So Indian Test bowling unit (overall) is not clicking properly... Siraj, Prasidh, etc, are not creating the same impact as bowlers in the past... (Siraj himself was quite good in the beginning of his career, but he has regressed a lot now!) Few years back it was the batting which was letting us down in tests, now it is back to bowling...

Time has come now to switch back to 4 specialist bowlers (4 proper bowlers) instead of 5 bowlers aggressive strategy which worked for us in tests for some years... We no more have Ashwin+Jadeja combo... Now we basically have just 1 or 2 proper bowlers + 3 fill-in bowlers and it won't make a strong 5 bowler unit... Carefully select 4 proper bowlers (even if it is like Bumrah+Siraj+Prasidh+Kuldeep) and make someone like Nair/Sudarshan to bowl part-time overs... And select 6 proper batsmen + Pant...

Also I think Indian batting should take additional responsibility now and should not throw away their wickets (and look to match England Strike Rate... It is their home, they will bat more freely... We should take a bit of defensive approach... 600+ runs in the first innings taking some more time off the test would have took England win out of the equation)
 
India lost a test match with Bumrah in the side. How will this bowling attack do when they are aiming to rest him for 2 matches?

I imagine they will get plundered. Especially if its a wicket like Headingly, which I very much expect to see going forward.
 
mominsaigol said:
He has enough money for the rest of his life. He can easily skip ipl and play test vs England.
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Does he ?

Maybe he wants to build a multi-million dollar mansion in France. I guess he has higher expectations from life than you do.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
India lost a test match with Bumrah in the side. How will this bowling attack do when they are aiming to rest him for 2 matches?

I imagine they will get plundered. Especially if its a wicket like Headingly, which I very much expect to see going forward.
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That's because Cricket is a team game and not an individual. Though Bumrah is an individual who boost the chances of his team winning a Test match. It doesn't guarantee they will win it with him.
 
RidiculousMan said:
That's because Cricket is a team game and not an individual. Though Bumrah is an individual who boost the chances of his team winning a Test match. It doesn't guarantee they will win it with him.
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Yeah but it's still surprising to see how much India's pace-bowling has regressed with Shami going out. Shami and Bumrah were doing all the heavy-lifting so much so that the third bowler just needed to be decent. Siraj is just an average bowler and not a match-winner, whereas the others are too inexperienced. India are in desperate need of a young fast-bowler who can step up and take Shami's place in Tests and ODIs.
 
RidiculousMan said:
That's because Cricket is a team game and not an individual. Though Bumrah is an individual who boost the chances of his team winning a Test match. It doesn't guarantee they will win it with him.
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Issue is the batting not the bowling. England bowling is also toothless. India with bumrah is better. Secondly it is a belter of a pitch.

Problem is India's tail is so hilarious bad. Bangaldesh and Zimbabwe tail enders bat better then india's tail enders and im not saying this sarcastically.

Their essentially playing with 6 batters. Secondly England is overall a better batting team. They can chase totals down.
 
Every individual has a different body type and bowling action and it’s up to them and their board to sort out long term priorities and availability. If Pakistan had done this , Shaheen would not have regressed this way. I have no issues if Bumrah’s body can only take three tests. It is extremely unfortunate but it is the reality. He’s the best in the world and it would indeed be a treat to watch him bowl more but no point comparing him to Cummins or others because injuries and maintenance are different from one person to the next.

Having said that , I’m furious that he openly announced he will be playing only three tests. Where is this privilege coming from ? This is an extremely strategic decision and should have been kept under wraps. And missing the second test will be a pathetic decision. If we lose this and go 2-0 , we can kiss the series good bye.
 
Bumrah is like a house of cards that will fall even if someone blows wind around it. LOL

BCCI is trying to save him now after the humiliation of not taking a single wicket in the 4th inning of the game and letting the opposition chase down a mammoth total of 370+..
 
I understand Bumrah's concerns, especially with his action.

One criticism I have is how they've mapped out the Tests he will play in. What they should be doing is going with a match-by-match assessment strategy. Keep tabs on key health indicators (with the help of sports specialists) and monitor them before, after, and during each Test.

He's their prized possession, so this is the least they can do as the richest board in the world.

With that information, they could then decide if he's capable or not before each Test in the series. So if he looked good after the 1st Test, play him in the 2nd and move forward from there.

Instead, they have immediately ruled him out of two Tests without even knowing how his body is going to hold up.
 
If India is the best team in the world, prove it by showing how you fare in Sena conditions without Kohli, Rohit and Bhumrah
 
Lol what's he gonna do even if he plays. They beat him and humiliated him on 5th day of test.
I expect epic phainty to him in upcoming matches.
 
Shubman Gill said "Bumrah is available for selection, will take a look at the Pitch & decide on the 11 - we are trying to find the right balance to take 20 wickets". [Bharat Sharma from PTI]
 
Bumrah’s fitness and career trajectory is similar to Michael Holding. Holding played tests for 12 years and his career lasted for 60 tests. He too had multiple injuries and sometimes when he played tests, he underbowled as part of workload management. Additionally, there were times when he was rested out in a long series too.

Quality wise Bumrah is perhaps better than Holding even though both were great away from home but Bumrah averages +3 better than him and Bumrah also has played 85% of his games vs top 4 teams. Hence, Bumrah is likely to retire above Holding even if he doesn’t contribute much with bowl in coming days and retire soon.
 
Mamoon said:
I have a huge problem with Bumrah opting out of the 2nd Test of a 5-match series in England with India 1-0 down.

England vs India Test series is one of the biggest spectacles in Test cricket. Perhaps, it's the third biggest series on the calendar after the Ashes and the BGT.

For me, this is a terrible look. A 31-year-old with only 46 Tests under his belt is sitting out after just 1 Test when his team is 1-0 down.

Not to forget, he completely flopped on the 5th day of the first Test in spite of having a big total to defend, so a player with fire in his belly and who wants to win matches for his country would be raring to go to make amends and make it 1-1.

This is a must-win match for India because if England go 2-0 up, India’s chances of winning this series are pretty much gone.

Indian fans would defend everything, but their media would have lambasted Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood, Rabada or any other foreign bowler etc., had they sat out after 1 Test like Bumrah has, especially with their team 1-0 down.

Indians like to compare Bumrah to every great fast bowler in history, but how many of them would chicken out of the second Test of a 5 match series with their team 1-0 down?

This “workload” is a self-constructed myth anyway. India’s next Test series is in October when WI will tour India for 2 Tests, and he can easily skip that one, so in reality, there is no workload to manage.

Let’s expose this workload myth further. Since January 2023, 16 bowlers have bowled more deliveries in international cricket than Bumrah.

9 pacers have bowled more deliveries than Bumrah.

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Cummins has bowled 1,396 more deliveries in the last two years while carrying the added burden of captaining the team, and yet, you don't see him opting out of matches, and Australia doesn't talk about his workload management on every tour.

35-year-old Starc has bowled 1,266 more deliveries in the last two years.

34-year-old Hazlewood has bowled 460 more deliveries.

36-year-old Southee has bowled 420 more deliveries.

Shaheen Afridi, who has probably never been 100% fit since the 2022 T20 WC, has also bowled more deliveries than Bumrah, and so has Rabada.

This is clear evidence that Bumrah's workload is not higher than most other pacers, yet Bumrah acts as if he does India and the game of cricket a huge favor every time he bowls. This is yet another example of how India runs the narrative in cricket today and how their version becomes the ultimate truth, which no one can question.

Imagine talking about the "workload" of a 31-year-old fast bowler who isn't even in the top 9 in terms of most deliveries bowled by a fast bowler in the last two years. But but but saar we have to manage his workload or he will die.

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his age is obviously a lie, add 5 years min.
 
Mamoon said:
I have a huge problem with Bumrah opting out of the 2nd Test of a 5-match series in England with India 1-0 down.

England vs India Test series is one of the biggest spectacles in Test cricket. Perhaps, it's the third biggest series on the calendar after the Ashes and the BGT.

For me, this is a terrible look. A 31-year-old with only 46 Tests under his belt is sitting out after just 1 Test when his team is 1-0 down.

Not to forget, he completely flopped on the 5th day of the first Test in spite of having a big total to defend, so a player with fire in his belly and who wants to win matches for his country would be raring to go to make amends and make it 1-1.

This is a must-win match for India because if England go 2-0 up, India’s chances of winning this series are pretty much gone.

Indian fans would defend everything, but their media would have lambasted Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood, Rabada or any other foreign bowler etc., had they sat out after 1 Test like Bumrah has, especially with their team 1-0 down.

Indians like to compare Bumrah to every great fast bowler in history, but how many of them would chicken out of the second Test of a 5 match series with their team 1-0 down?

This “workload” is a self-constructed myth anyway. India’s next Test series is in October when WI will tour India for 2 Tests, and he can easily skip that one, so in reality, there is no workload to manage.

Let’s expose this workload myth further. Since January 2023, 16 bowlers have bowled more deliveries in international cricket than Bumrah.

9 pacers have bowled more deliveries than Bumrah.

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Cummins has bowled 1,396 more deliveries in the last two years while carrying the added burden of captaining the team, and yet, you don't see him opting out of matches, and Australia doesn't talk about his workload management on every tour.

35-year-old Starc has bowled 1,266 more deliveries in the last two years.

34-year-old Hazlewood has bowled 460 more deliveries.

36-year-old Southee has bowled 420 more deliveries.

Shaheen Afridi, who has probably never been 100% fit since the 2022 T20 WC, has also bowled more deliveries than Bumrah, and so has Rabada.

This is clear evidence that Bumrah's workload is not higher than most other pacers, yet Bumrah acts as if he does India and the game of cricket a huge favor every time he bowls. This is yet another example of how India runs the narrative in cricket today and how their version becomes the ultimate truth, which no one can question.

Imagine talking about the "workload" of a 31-year-old fast bowler who isn't even in the top 9 in terms of most deliveries bowled by a fast bowler in the last two years. But but but saar we have to manage his workload or he will die.

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Top post. This is the best PP post I have read in 2025.

Right on the money.

Bumrah's workload is far less than pacers like Rabada, Cummins, Starc etc. The fact he can't handle the workload shows how poor his fitness really is.

I don't consider Bumrah an ATG or even a future ATG because 1) he is pampered like a baby, 2) he has a suspicious bowling action, and 3) he has a very poor fitness.

:inti
 
mominsaigol said:
My guess is the likely 11 for India will

1) Rahul
2) Jaiswal
3) Sai
4) Gill
5) Pant
6) Karun
7) Jadeja
8) Kuldeep
9) Bumrah
10) Siraj
11) Shan Masood
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Just letting everyone know, India playing 2 spinners is beyond stupid. Recipe for disaster coming right up.

You dont play 2 spinners in Sena unless they plan on jadeja playing as a specialist batsmen.
 
Mamoon said:
I have a huge problem with Bumrah opting out of the 2nd Test of a 5-match series in England with India 1-0 down.

England vs India Test series is one of the biggest spectacles in Test cricket. Perhaps, it's the third biggest series on the calendar after the Ashes and the BGT.

For me, this is a terrible look. A 31-year-old with only 46 Tests under his belt is sitting out after just 1 Test when his team is 1-0 down.

Not to forget, he completely flopped on the 5th day of the first Test in spite of having a big total to defend, so a player with fire in his belly and who wants to win matches for his country would be raring to go to make amends and make it 1-1.

This is a must-win match for India because if England go 2-0 up, India’s chances of winning this series are pretty much gone.

Indian fans would defend everything, but their media would have lambasted Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood, Rabada or any other foreign bowler etc., had they sat out after 1 Test like Bumrah has, especially with their team 1-0 down.

Indians like to compare Bumrah to every great fast bowler in history, but how many of them would chicken out of the second Test of a 5 match series with their team 1-0 down?

This “workload” is a self-constructed myth anyway. India’s next Test series is in October when WI will tour India for 2 Tests, and he can easily skip that one, so in reality, there is no workload to manage.

Let’s expose this workload myth further. Since January 2023, 16 bowlers have bowled more deliveries in international cricket than Bumrah.

9 pacers have bowled more deliveries than Bumrah.

View attachment 155707

Cummins has bowled 1,396 more deliveries in the last two years while carrying the added burden of captaining the team, and yet, you don't see him opting out of matches, and Australia doesn't talk about his workload management on every tour.

35-year-old Starc has bowled 1,266 more deliveries in the last two years.

34-year-old Hazlewood has bowled 460 more deliveries.

36-year-old Southee has bowled 420 more deliveries.

Shaheen Afridi, who has probably never been 100% fit since the 2022 T20 WC, has also bowled more deliveries than Bumrah, and so has Rabada.

This is clear evidence that Bumrah's workload is not higher than most other pacers, yet Bumrah acts as if he does India and the game of cricket a huge favor every time he bowls. This is yet another example of how India runs the narrative in cricket today and how their version becomes the ultimate truth, which no one can question.

Imagine talking about the "workload" of a 31-year-old fast bowler who isn't even in the top 9 in terms of most deliveries bowled by a fast bowler in the last two years. But but but saar we have to manage his workload or he will die.

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The fact is:

“Despite the hoopla of workload management, a whopping fact emerged during the 1st Test between Australia and the West Indies last week. Bumrah has bowled the most number of overs in Test cricket since 2024. He has sent down 410.4 overs, followed by Mitchell Starc at second with 362.3 overs. Pat Cummins has bowled 359.1, Mohammed Siraj 355.3 and Gus Atkinson 328.”

He’s fragile and must be preserved keeping in mind the long term needs of the team. Nobody will give a rat’s @55 if he sits out a Test if this prolongs his career and he ends up winning another WC for India. It’s risk management which obviously is not a strong suit of a lot of people around here. It’s hilarious how noname internet trolls that aren’t stakeholders of Indian cricket are the loudest voices with their unsolicited expert advice, and that too without the knowledge of Bumrah’s body condition or state. It’s for the Indian team management to decide what Tests Bumrah plays in consultation with the specialists.
 
Ravi Shastri is coming down hard on Bumrah and rightly so. He is saying, this choice of picking and choosing should be taken out of players hand.
 
He has already played 5 back to back test in Australia . Taking rest from 2nd test is good for him and Indian cricket because we can't takes risk with him. Workload is important things and we don't want a situations where he Injured himself during the mid test.

He has won alot test for india in england, Australia , South Africa where Those who use bottle caps could not .lol
:kp
 
Devadwal said:
He has already played 5 back to back test in Australia . Taking rest from 2nd test is good for him and Indian cricket because we can't takes risk with him. Workload is important things and we don't want a situations where he Injured himself during the mid test.

He has won alot test for india in england, Australia , South Africa where Those who use bottle caps could not .lol
:kp
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@mominsaigol :inti

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mominsaigol said:
Tbf to @Rajdeep Mamoon has also pre maturely made this thread.

Their hasnt been any official update as to whether bumrah is playing the 2nd test or not.

All we know is that he will play 3 out of 5. With the current equation being 2 out of 4
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I was never in any doubt. I was convinced that he will chicken out. The reason why India didn't confirm it until today is because they wanted to keep England guessing.
 
charlie007 said:
The fact is:

“Despite the hoopla of workload management, a whopping fact emerged during the 1st Test between Australia and the West Indies last week. Bumrah has bowled the most number of overs in Test cricket since 2024. He has sent down 410.4 overs, followed by Mitchell Starc at second with 362.3 overs. Pat Cummins has bowled 359.1, Mohammed Siraj 355.3 and Gus Atkinson 328.”

He’s fragile and must be preserved keeping in mind the long term needs of the team. Nobody will give a rat’s @55 if he sits out a Test if this prolongs his career and he ends up winning another WC for India. It’s risk management which obviously is not a strong suit of a lot of people around here. It’s hilarious how noname internet trolls that aren’t stakeholders of Indian cricket are the loudest voices with their unsolicited expert advice, and that too without the knowledge of Bumrah’s body condition or state. It’s for the Indian team management to decide what Tests Bumrah plays in consultation with the specialists.
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While India are free to give him a Bharat Ratna for sending down the most overs (for a fast bowler) in Test cricket since 2024, it is worth noting that he had a 5 month gap between the last Test in Australia and the first Test in England. Furthermore, there was also a week gap before the start of the second Test. Moreover, India are playing very little Test cricket in the next 12 months after this series.

It is utterly embarrassing to see him sit out of the second Test when India are 1-0 down and he has played just 1 Test in the last 5 months.
 
Devadwal said:
He has already played 5 back to back test in Australia . Taking rest from 2nd test is good for him and Indian cricket because we can't takes risk with him. Workload is important things and we don't want a situations where he Injured himself during the mid test.

He has won alot test for india in england, Australia , South Africa where Those who use bottle caps could not .lol
:kp
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There is nothing to rest when the Australia series finished 5 months ago. Who needs rest after playing 1 Test in 5 months and there was also a week gap between the second and the first Test?

You and every Indian knows that this cannot be defended and it is embarrassing, but thanks to your inherit jingoism, you have no choice but to defend this.
 
Mamoon said:
While India are free to give him a Bharat Ratna for sending down the most overs (for a fast bowler) in Test cricket since 2024, it is worth noting that he had a 5 month gap between the last Test in Australia and the first Test in England. Furthermore, there was also a week gap before the start of the second Test. Moreover, India are playing very little Test cricket in the next 12 months after this series.

It is utterly embarrassing to see him sit out of the second Test when India are 1-0 down and he has played just 1 Test in the last 5 months.
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India play the least amount of tests this cycle ironically as compared to 2021-2023 and 2023-2025
 
No Test cricket for 5 months.

1 week rest between the first and second Tests.

Only 5 Test matches scheduled in the next 12 months after this series.

India 1-0 down.

31 years old.

No active injury.

There is 0 justification for him not playing the second Test.
 
Mamoon said:
There is nothing to rest when the Australia series finished 5 months ago. Who needs rest after playing 1 Test in 5 months and there was also a week gap between the second and the first Test?

You and every Indian knows that this cannot be defended and it is embarrassing, but thanks to your inherit jingoism, you have no choice but to defend this.
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Is Bumrah Only bowler in the history who taking the rest because of workload management .

He is not the bowler who is taking the rest from a test series but at the same time play in franchise league just for the Money. Lol

:kp
 
He has no confidence in his body anymore hence he didn't take the risk in the second innings.

He needs to retire from this format. Focus on ODIs and T2OI
 
Devadwal said:
Is Bumrah Only bowler in the history who taking the rest because of workload management .

He is not the bowler who is taking the rest from a test series but at the same time play in franchise league just for the Money. Lol

:kp
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Provide a list of bowlers in history who needed a rest without active injury after playing 1 Test match in 5 months.
 
Mamoon said:
Provide a list of bowlers in history who needed a rest without active injury after playing 1 Test match in 5 months.
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Just checked the recent 2-3 Ashes series playing eleven ( Or last 3-4 years England bowling line-up) and you'll get your answer. :kp
 
Well, let me put it this way. His primary employer, MI wants him to rest up as much as possible. Stay away from any kind of injury.

His secondary employer, BCCI has obliged.

IPL gets the prime of everything. Test cricket, leftover crumbs.
 
#All

Bumrah is not 100% fit and underwent surgery after the Australian tour. That’s why he didn’t play in the Champions Trophy and skipped the first half of the IPL. Yes, he did feature in the last few IPL matches, but the physical demands of a T20 game, especially in IPL with the Impact Player rule in place, are significantly lower.

In reality, Bumrah shouldn’t even be playing this series. But because it’s a high-profile tour, they included a partially fit Bumrah out of desperation. You need to understand from Indian perspective as well - that it’s better to pace and manage the workload of your biggest match-winner rather than push him to the limit.

That said, I agree he should have played this Test match—because if India lose this one, they’re almost certain to lose the series. He should have played here, then rested for the next two matches, and a decision could be made for the final Test. This obsession with playing at Lord’s is overstated and unnecessary.
 
Mamoon said:
While India are free to give him a Bharat Ratna for sending down the most overs (for a fast bowler) in Test cricket since 2024, it is worth noting that he had a 5 month gap between the last Test in Australia and the first Test in England. Furthermore, there was also a week gap before the start of the second Test. Moreover, India are playing very little Test cricket in the next 12 months after this series.

It is utterly embarrassing to see him sit out of the second Test when India are 1-0 down and he has played just 1 Test in the last 5 months.
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He got injured in Australia playing all 5 Tests. He’s an all format bowler so he needs to be preserved for the long haul. They have made a call and that probably may be best outcome to not get him injured and perhaps unplayable again. I mean, think about it: why will India not want to play Bumrah in every single game they play till the end of time? He can’t last, that’s why! A player’s career is far more important than a match or a series - even more so for a player like Bumrah.
 
If the pitch is good to bat, there is a good chance that all rounders like Nitish Reddy, Ravindra Jadeja and Washington Sundar will contribute with bat as well. So, if India bats well then can post 500 in first inning and this pitch should aid spinners a bit more than Headingley. India has Sundar and Jadeja both so it is not a bad selection. We may correct the mistakes we did in 1st test this time. :inti
 
RamLakhan said:
Fun Fact is Bumrah is the product of IPL. If not for IPL, it would have taken ages to discover such a bowler... With his strange action and fragile fitness, he would never have debuted in tests... Maybe he would have even got sidelined after playing few LOIs... (with the competition)

IPL gave him exposure to International Cricket, got inputs from International Cricketers, extensive coaching & monitoring... In simple got fast-tracked to International Cricket and Indian International Team! He learned everything quickly at the right time and in a right way! (To be honest even I didn't had much expectations from him in the beginning when he was creating magic in IPL... Felt that he would find it difficult in international cricket with bigger formats! But he surprised everyone! IPL helped him in such a way)

It is easy to ask him to ditch IPL now and play only Test Matches (basically to spend almost a retired life!) How will his brand be maintained? After 3-4 years he is anyhow not going to continue bowling (his body may not support, even if he continues he will not be effective bowler anymore!) So he is making the most of whatever he can (financially OR even statistically)

The problem here is: It is required for at least 4 quality bowlers to perform well in order to win test matches/series... You cannot expect only 1 guy to create magic every time, every innings... If other bowlers are also equally effective (like how Shami & spinners helped in WC'23 or Pandya, Arshdeep & Spinners helped in T20 world cup), then the burden on him will be lesser, he can play more matches but he can bowl lesser overs (in tests - because if wickets don't fall quickly, he has to bowl that many more overs, and its going to be hectic! Sometimes he has to bowl more overs because other bowlers are going for far too many runs- like Prasidh Krishna & Thakur were going for more than 7 rpo. He will be exhausted both physically & mentally...)

So until India finds 3 other high quality bowlers to bowl in SENA Conditions (3 seamers or 2 Seamer + 1 proper overseas wicket-taking spinner at least of the caliber of Santner/Lyon with spraying runs), India is going to struggle winning test matches overseas (now they may struggle to win even at home as we are starting to see already) and also Bumrah is going to have fitness issues...

India have lost some quality test bowlers like Ishant, Shami and also Jadeja, Ashwin became totally ineffective overseas (as bowlers)... So Indian Test bowling unit (overall) is not clicking properly... Siraj, Prasidh, etc, are not creating the same impact as bowlers in the past... (Siraj himself was quite good in the beginning of his career, but he has regressed a lot now!) Few years back it was the batting which was letting us down in tests, now it is back to bowling...

Time has come now to switch back to 4 specialist bowlers (4 proper bowlers) instead of 5 bowlers aggressive strategy which worked for us in tests for some years... We no more have Ashwin+Jadeja combo... Now we basically have just 1 or 2 proper bowlers + 3 fill-in bowlers and it won't make a strong 5 bowler unit... Carefully select 4 proper bowlers (even if it is like Bumrah+Siraj+Prasidh+Kuldeep) and make someone like Nair/Sudarshan to bowl part-time overs... And select 6 proper batsmen + Pant...

Also I think Indian batting should take additional responsibility now and should not throw away their wickets (and look to match England Strike Rate... It is their home, they will bat more freely... We should take a bit of defensive approach... 600+ runs in the first innings taking some more time off the test would have took England win out of the equation)
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Boo hoo!

Yet you guys try your best to claim Bhumrah is the best Asian test bowler - ever - but when the chips are down - Oh he's a T20 product not a product of Test.

He cannot be the best, nowhere near, if he doesn't have the mustard to play 5 tests.
 
Mamoon said:
No Test cricket for 5 months.

1 week rest between the first and second Tests.

Only 5 Test matches scheduled in the next 12 months after this series.

India 1-0 down.

31 years old.

No active injury.

There is 0 justification for him not playing the second Test.
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Yeah, fully ignoring that he had a surgery a couple of months ago.

There is more than enough justification, you just need to have a working brain.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Boo hoo!

Yet you guys try your best to claim Bhumrah is the best Asian test bowler - ever - but when the chips are down - Oh he's a T20 product not a product of Test.

He cannot be the best, nowhere near, if he doesn't have the mustard to play 5 tests.
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Bro - we’re back to the Sachin twighlight zone where goalposts shift with the wind
 
BCCI has managed Bhumrah's injuries and workload way better in comparison to what the PCB did with Shaheen, Naseem, Umar Gul, Junaid Khan e.t.c
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yeah, fully ignoring that he had a surgery a couple of months ago.

There is more than enough justification, you just need to have a working brain.
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It is incredible how Indians lie so casually, so confidently and so beautifully.

Bumrah did not have any surgery this year. He had an injury which needed rehab, not surgery.

A working brain would certainly be able to make this distinction, but I believe that might not be an option right now.
 
Rajdeep said:
#All

Bumrah is not 100% fit and underwent surgery after the Australian tour. That’s why he didn’t play in the Champions Trophy and skipped the first half of the IPL. Yes, he did feature in the last few IPL matches, but the physical demands of a T20 game, especially in IPL with the Impact Player rule in place, are significantly lower.

In reality, Bumrah shouldn’t even be playing this series. But because it’s a high-profile tour, they included a partially fit Bumrah out of desperation. You need to understand from Indian perspective as well - that it’s better to pace and manage the workload of your biggest match-winner rather than push him to the limit.

That said, I agree he should have played this Test match—because if India lose this one, they’re almost certain to lose the series. He should have played here, then rested for the next two matches, and a decision could be made for the final Test. This obsession with playing at Lord’s is overstated and unnecessary.
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Bumrah did not have surgery after the Australian tour, he had an injury but did not have surgery. He had a surgery in 2023.
 
Morally, it is not exactly the right thing for Bumrah to skip this test but fact is India don’t want to risk Bumrah and make him suffer another stress fracture, which could well be a career ending one. He has been advised by doctors that one more back fracture could well mean that he may never be able to play international cricket again.

He has skipped this test match as a precautionary measure and considering in mind his all format dependency, it is not a bad decision practically.

If I am Indian captain or coach, I would not be wanting to risk losing Bumrah for a year because that would basically keep him out of a WT20 or even an ODI World Cup. Test matches away from home are also important but reality check is that he doesn’t have the impeccable fitness needed to play a 5 tests series without taking any break, particularly after having bowled 45 overs in 1st test itself.

India should focus on removing the dependency of Bumrah from Test cricket because he will likely play 5 tests per year on an average in next 3-4 years and retire.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Nay...Riz will never miss any game... Find someone else... Or maybe Bumrah is 1-off wonder...LOL
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Pakistan vs Australia series t20. He dropped himself to avoid a whitewash yet came out to field in the same game.

If he was injured like he claimed why was he fielding and diving like a cassa nova?

Bumrah and Rizzu aren't any different personality wise.
 
If you wanted to preserve him, then the strategy should have been not to play the first test. If India manage well, carry on without him. But if they lose the first test, then the second test is the time to bring him in!

They’ve done it the other way round! Maybe that second innings performance was a bit of an eye opener. England have him figured out, so let’s save his stats.
 
Bumrah has proven to be a very selfish Cricketer. He opted out of 2nd Test because the pitch was apparently not to his liking. Plus the next Test is at Lord's. Bumrah knows he will get better pitch there and he will 100% play the Lord's Test. An opportunity in his eyes to stat pad at Lord's. Even if it means losing the series for his team.

For Bumrah. Bumrah comes first and then India.
 
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