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So Australia are about to embark on their first tour of pakistan in 24 years

The last time they played in pakistan australia won 1-0 In tests

I distinctly remember it was a atrocious series played by pakistan with the usual 90s shenanigans - unexplainable collapses, atrocious fielding with flat pitches and a revolving door on selection where at least 2 dozen pakistani players played during the 3 test match series!!!

The results, selections and poor performances summed up the shenanigans of the 90s and pakistans haphazard administration who all have question marks on them to this day!

Hopefully none of that is repeated this time round!!
 
I remember that series. Mark Taylor scored a triple century. Debut of Shoaib Akthar. Bad umpiring. Flat pitches.
 
World and Pakistan was a more safer, peaceful and tolerant place back then and also not so fast paced like today. Miss some of the Good Ol Days.
 
That Australian team was very good.

Mark Taylor, Michael Slater, Justin Langer, Steve Waugh, Mark Waugh, Ricky Ponting, Ian Healy, Colin Miller, Damien Flemming, Glen Mcgrath, Stuart Mcgill

All these players barring 1-2 will significantly elevate Australia's present squad.

Pakistani wickets are not dustbowls like UAE, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. It only moderately assists spin on day 4, 5 and as a pacer you have to bend your back and look for reverse swing.
 
That Australian team was very good.

Mark Taylor, Michael Slater, Justin Langer, Steve Waugh, Mark Waugh, Ricky Ponting, Ian Healy, Colin Miller, Damien Flemming, Glen Mcgrath, Stuart Mcgill

All these players barring 1-2 will significantly elevate Australia's present squad.

Pakistani wickets are not dustbowls like UAE, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh. It only moderately assists spin on day 4, 5 and as a pacer you have to bend your back and look for reverse swing.

They were but pakistanis were bad Pakistan didnt win a game all tour at home

Just look at the revolving selections from game to game that series No consistency in selection It was a mess and they duely got a beating
 
World and Pakistan was a more safer, peaceful and tolerant place back then and also not so fast paced like today. Miss some of the Good Ol Days.

Spot on buddy :)

The 1990’s were one of the best times to be alive not just in Pakistan but everywhere..
 
So Australia are about to embark on their first tour of pakistan in 24 years

The last time they played in pakistan australia won 1-0 In tests

I distinctly remember it was a atrocious series played by pakistan with the usual 90s shenanigans - unexplainable collapses, atrocious fielding with flat pitches and a revolving door on selection where at least 2 dozen pakistani players played during the 3 test match series!!!

The results, selections and poor performances summed up the shenanigans of the 90s and pakistans haphazard administration who all have question marks on them to this day!

Hopefully none of that is repeated this time round!!

We lost that series due to Javed Miandad's questionable tactics that were followed by Aaamir Sohail like a T, 2 out of three tests were overloaded with mediocre spinners, Mushtaq was past his peak and Saqlain still hasn't cracked it in test matches, add two debuts and arshad khan to the mix, you had a very weak bowling line up.
 
We lost that series due to Javed Miandad's questionable tactics that were followed by Aaamir Sohail like a T, 2 out of three tests were overloaded with mediocre spinners, Mushtaq was past his peak and Saqlain still hasn't cracked it in test matches, add two debuts and arshad khan to the mix, you had a very weak bowling line up.

I think the selections and "injuries" all contributed to the loss

Wasim Anwar Yousuf Akhter Zahid, Ijaz Saqlain Malik, Mahmood all missed at least one game of the test match series

Who knows what was going behind closed doors with the players n selections
 
Aussies are clear favourites.dont see any threat from sajid khan or nauman that is the issue
 
Aussies are clear favourites.dont see any threat from sajid khan or nauman that is the issue

I agree with you on Nauman.

But Sajid has had a very good start to his international career and has already taken an 8fer.
 
We couldn't defend 315 in one of the ODIs back then & were whitewashed iirc.
 
I think the selections and "injuries" all contributed to the loss

Wasim Anwar Yousuf Akhter Zahid, Ijaz Saqlain Malik, Mahmood all missed at least one game of the test match series

Who knows what was going behind closed doors with the players n selections

Actually Aamir Sohail in an interview a few years ago alleged the players in the team undermined him because they wanted Wasim Akram as captain. Aamir had anger management problems and his inconsistency with the bat further diluted his leadership
 
If Australia could not beat India in India, Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh in Bangladesh, then we should be able to beat them in Pakistan.
 
I hope Pakistan does not go in the tactic of giving flat wickets. We beat South Africa by offering balanced pitches which mostly aided reverse swing and spin on Day 3, 4. Making use of the new ball will be key as well.
 
If Australia could not beat India in India, Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh in Bangladesh, then we should be able to beat them in Pakistan.

Offcourse .
Pakistan should be the clear favorite here.
 
I hope Pakistan does not go in the tactic of giving flat wickets. We beat South Africa by offering balanced pitches which mostly aided reverse swing and spin on Day 3, 4. Making use of the new ball will be key as well.

SA were in a position to win in both matches their weakness in Asian conditions and a batting line up which is weaker than previous sides cost them Australia won’t be as easy to dislodge.

The likelihood of at least one test loss is probable and 2 would mean a series loss should be competitive and a good series.
 
I agree with you on Nauman.

But Sajid has had a very good start to his international career and has already taken an 8fer.

Nauman won’t last long in test cricket a better option would be to select a younger left arm spinner who can play for the next 10 years unfortunately batsmen and bowlers are overlooked in their prime and then selected when it’s a bit late which hampers the progress of younger players.
 
Nauman won’t last long in test cricket a better option would be to select a younger left arm spinner who can play for the next 10 years unfortunately batsmen and bowlers are overlooked in their prime and then selected when it’s a bit late which hampers the progress of younger players.

Yes absolutely, I don't disagree with that.

But I'm also saying, Sajid has done more than enough to keep his place in the team as Pakistan's main test spinner. He's had a good start to his career and already taken an 8fer which is no joke.
 
Last time Australia toured Pakistan the ODI series was played in whites with a red ball.
 
Nauman won’t last long in test cricket a better option would be to select a younger left arm spinner who can play for the next 10 years unfortunately batsmen and bowlers are overlooked in their prime and then selected when it’s a bit late which hampers the progress of younger players.

I think we are being slightly harsh on Nauman. Ok he had a bad test series in Bangladesh but he has performed pretty well in his other test matches. Did well against South Africa and did well against West Indies to square the test series after replacing a totally out of form Yasir Shah.

He is a guy who seems to know Pakistan conditions well and that could be vital against the Aussies. Will be interesting to see if he or Sajid gets the nod for the first test match against the Aussies as it looks like two spinners wont play in that match.
 
Just saw a video where the Australian recreated rough to practice against the spinners. Total waste of time on their part. Out of the 60 wickets to be taken, I predict Australian fast bowlers will pick at least 50 of them. Same goes for Pakistan. Pakistan has never been a spinners country. Pakistan has the worst average for a spinner in the 4th innings. Both teams should be loaded with fast bowlers.

Any team worth their salt should beat Pakistan in Pakistan quite easily given the absolute shambolic batsmen Pakistan have in their lineup. The first 3 batsmen are simply sitting ducks against Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. The batting really starts from 4 onwards.

Australia should be very disappointed if they do not whitewash Pakistan. And if they manage to lose the series, then they should stop touring the subcontinent altogether.
 
Just saw a video where the Australian recreated rough to practice against the spinners. Total waste of time on their part. Out of the 60 wickets to be taken, I predict Australian fast bowlers will pick at least 50 of them. Same goes for Pakistan. Pakistan has never been a spinners country. Pakistan has the worst average for a spinner in the 4th innings. Both teams should be loaded with fast bowlers.

Any team worth their salt should beat Pakistan in Pakistan quite easily given the absolute shambolic batsmen Pakistan have in their lineup. The first 3 batsmen are simply sitting ducks against Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. The batting really starts from 4 onwards.

Australia should be very disappointed if they do not whitewash Pakistan. And if they manage to lose the series, then they should stop touring the subcontinent altogether.

Whitewash pakistan? Itd have to be a shambolic display by pakistan if that happens and very unlikely

Granted pakistan isnt a great test team particularly uptop but they are playing at home and know the conditions which the aussies dont as none have ever toured They also have a good set bowlers for the conditions

Its 50-50 and should be a good series rather than the one sided contest you are suggesting
 
Just saw a video where the Australian recreated rough to practice against the spinners. Total waste of time on their part. Out of the 60 wickets to be taken, I predict Australian fast bowlers will pick at least 50 of them. Same goes for Pakistan. Pakistan has never been a spinners country. Pakistan has the worst average for a spinner in the 4th innings. Both teams should be loaded with fast bowlers.

Any team worth their salt should beat Pakistan in Pakistan quite easily given the absolute shambolic batsmen Pakistan have in their lineup. The first 3 batsmen are simply sitting ducks against Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. The batting really starts from 4 onwards.

Australia should be very disappointed if they do not whitewash Pakistan. And if they manage to lose the series, then they should stop touring the subcontinent altogether.

That's some serious wrist slitting. Pakistan would have to play very poorly, even for their own standards, and Australia would have to play extremely well for them to win the series.
 
Pakistan would be expected to win a test in Australia.

That time period had probably the best Pakistani team of all time and at the same time the worst (due to suspicious activities).
 
Just saw a video where the Australian recreated rough to practice against the spinners. Total waste of time on their part. Out of the 60 wickets to be taken, I predict Australian fast bowlers will pick at least 50 of them. Same goes for Pakistan. Pakistan has never been a spinners country. Pakistan has the worst average for a spinner in the 4th innings. Both teams should be loaded with fast bowlers.

Any team worth their salt should beat Pakistan in Pakistan quite easily given the absolute shambolic batsmen Pakistan have in their lineup. The first 3 batsmen are simply sitting ducks against Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins. The batting really starts from 4 onwards.

Australia should be very disappointed if they do not whitewash Pakistan. And if they manage to lose the series, then they should stop touring the subcontinent altogether.

Several quotes from Cummins to the effect that they don't expect pitches to turn from day 1, like Indian pitches often do. He's noted that Pakistans quicks have taken most wickets in the limited matches they have played at home recently and that we see your quick bowling as your strongest suit. So we aren't expecting all out spin conditions. I'd say the rough wicket practice was simply because this has been an extremely wet, colder summer in Oz so spin has played a limited part in the cricket here this year.

The link below sheds some light on the way Aussies are analysing the Pakistani pitches with what little we have to go on- no recent experience, but we do have some numerical data + memories of the guys who toured 24 years ago...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...pakistan-cricket-pitches-20220226-p59zw2.html
 
Last time Aussies toured Pakistan, I was preparing for my O Level examinations as exams were happening in January 99, so had to manage both things at a time.
Pakistan really messed up that series, they already suffered home test series loss v South Africa in 1997 and Sri lanka 1995 but thosd bunch of players were least bothered. Not only Aussies beat us in Tests they whitewashed us 3-0 in ODI and simultaneously Pakistan was also dumped out of ICC champions trophy 98 during that series. Taylor’s 334* marked the beginning of Australian domination, they beat us in our own backyard, they went back to Australia and won the Ashes and ended up winning the world cup 6 months later.
Pakistan lost another home test series 2 years later in 2000 v England. The less i think about 1995-2004 era the more better i feel.
I have nothing much to add.
 
Actually Aamir Sohail in an interview a few years ago alleged the players in the team undermined him because they wanted Wasim Akram as captain. Aamir had anger management problems and his inconsistency with the bat further diluted his leadership

His Anger management was well taken by
Mr Venkatish Prasad
 
Went to see odi in national stadium. Remembered McGrath waiving the crowd when he was near boundary, fire in the enclosure when defeat was inevitable, police forcing us out of the stadium. Good ol days.
 
During those days, teams used to beat Pakistan left right and center in their own conditions.

1995-2004 was a dark era, where almost every team defeated Pakistan in Pakistan.
 
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Almost all 5 days of the first test have been sold out with 100% capacity crowd. Have never ever seen this for a test match at home in Pakistan. This has not happened even when India toured Pakistan in 2004 and 2006. Am surprised our public and fans are pouring out in such large numbers just because of the Australian team.
 
Incredible to think that several members of the Pakistan squad weren't even born when Australia last toured.
 
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