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PM Imran Khan ready to share 'threat letter' with CJP: Asad Umar

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Planning, Development, and Special Initiatives Asad Umar said Tuesday Prime Minister Imran Khan is ready to share the "threat letter" with Chief Justice Umar Ata Bandial.

In a press conference along with Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry, Umar said only a select few of the civil-military leadership have seen the letter due to its "sensitivity".

The federal planning minister said there was a need to explain the "letter" that the prime minister had read out in the March 27 rally, but it could not be shown publicly due to its "sensitive nature".

Umar noted that after the masses questioned the credibility of the letter, the prime minister deliberated over sharing the letter with someone, and he thought that it would be right to share it with the CJP — as he is a credible person.

"...he holds a high office [...] and the chief justice himself is a well-respected man," the federal minister said, noting that it would be shared with the CJP when the need might arise.

"I have seen this letter myself and a few members of the federal cabinet have seen it as there are laws that dictate sharing such sensitive documents," he said.

The prime minister had Sunday revealed that "foreign elements" are involved in the attempts to topple his government and said, "some of our own people" are being used in this regard.

The premier was speaking during one of the "biggest" rallies in his party's history at the Parade Ground in Islamabad as the Opposition has geared up to oust the premier from office through the no-confidence motion.

What is in the letter?
Sharing the details of the letter, Umar said it was "noteworthy" that the letter was dated even before the Opposositon had submitted the no-confidence motion in the NA secretariat.

"...it is important as this letter clearly mentioned the no-confidence motion. It was also written that if the no-confidence motion fails and the prime minister remains in power, it can have severe consequences," he said, referring to the threat PM Imran Khan mentioned in the rally.

The letter also mentions Pakistan's foreign policy, Umar said, without elaborating what it says.

"No-confidence motion and foreign hand are interlinked, these are not two separate things," the federal minister said.

Who are the people involved?
Umar said without a doubt, former prime minister and PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif is involved in the "conspiracy" against PM Imran Khan.

"When the prime minister wants, he will reveal more details about the letter, and it has already been reported in the letter whom he has met in the recent days," Umar said.

The federal minister said the Pakistan Democratic Movement's (PDM) leadership is not "unaware" of the letter, and they have repeatedly mentioned "that matters have settled" — but did not clarify further.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/408127-pm-imran-khan-ready-to-share-written-letter-with-cjp-asad-umar
 
Pakistan's relevant authorities have seen no evidence yet that there is an international conspiracy to topple Prime Minister Imran Khan through a vote of no-confidence motion moved by the opposition parties, two sources who deal with the subject have told The Express Tribune.

Prime Minister Imran, in his speech at the public rally on Sunday, claimed that there was a "foreign-funded plot" being hatched against his government. He showed a letter, but without divulging its contents, as evidence of the existence of the conspiracy aimed at toppling his government. Khan insisted that efforts were being made to seek his ouster since he pursued an "independent" foreign policy.

Since his revelations, many questions are being asked including whether the letter was written by any country or was it an internal assessment shared by one of the foreign diplomatic missions of Pakistan.

The Express Tribune sent a questionnaire to the foreign office spokesperson asking all the relevant queries but he offered no comments.

The "threatening letter" was also shared with the military leadership, according to Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

But relevant quarters revealed that they had "no knowledge" of any such plot and neither did they see any evidence.

One source, whose department deals with external threats, said if there had been an imminent threat, certain actions would have been taken by now. But there was no "unusual movement" nor any other action taken by the concerned authorities against the backdrop of the purported foreign-funded plot.

Another source added that if the threat was so serious, why was the meeting of the National Security Committee (NSC) not called immediately. It is believed that concerned quarters and some officials in the Foreign Office were upset that even if there was a certain plot, the premier should have taken up the issue at the relevant forums instead of raising the subject in public.

The prime minister, under oath, is not allowed to divulge details in public that have been shared with him as the country's chief executive. Some say his effort to raise the issue in public is tantamount to violating his oath of office.

Federal Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry was sent the following questions for clarity: 1, When did the government receive the threat, when the threat was shared with the military leadership and what was their response? 2, Why PM did not convene the meeting of the National Security Committee on the issue? 3, what action government has taken after the threatening letter, has any demarche been issued to the ambassador of the country which wrote that letter or where did the threat emanate from?

The minister did not respond to the questions till the filing of this report.

All this is happening as Imran is facing a no-confidence move from the opposition. Opposition parties have dismissed the premier’s allegations of an international plot as an attempt to cover up his failures.

Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Shehbaz Sharif asked the Prime Minister to share the letter before the Parliament and offered his support to Imran if the threat was genuine.

But the prime minister in his speech on March 27, refused to share further details citing the country's national interests.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/235013...-evidence-of-foreign-funded-plot-against-pm-1
 
In Pakistan when your on your last legs and about to fall you pull out the amreekan conspiracy card, this is what Nawaz sharif did in 1999.
 
I have no problem with this drama. All politicians do it. But surely they could have done a better story. The most sophisticated spy agency in the world wants to destabilize PTI and conveys this through a letter.
 
In Pakistan when your on your last legs and about to fall you pull out the amreekan conspiracy card, this is what Nawaz sharif did in 1999.

against Zia it was amreekan
against Musharraff it was amreekan
against Bhutto it was amreekan
against Ayub it was amreekan

Funny thing is when all come to power then there is no conspiracy..
I am wondering Which international agencies involved against Usman Buzdar?
 
I have no problem with this drama. All politicians do it. But surely they could have done a better story. The most sophisticated spy agency in the world wants to destabilize PTI and conveys this through a letter.

and funny thing is apart from IK no other official know about this letter not even establishment or our agencies. And it is inside PM pocket just like a tissue paper.
 
against Zia it was amreekan
against Musharraff it was amreekan
against Bhutto it was amreekan
against Ayub it was amreekan

Funny thing is when all come to power then there is no conspiracy..
I am wondering Which international agencies involved against Usman Buzdar?

IK spent his first 2 years running around trying to woo donald trump, when he couldnt get any money he turned to china and sucked pakistan into a big debt bubble

However now his claims are only going to play in Bajwas hands as when things get out of control which they will, he can takeover based on IKs claim of foreign conspiracy.

Do you think this time like when Mush was in power and IK sat with ganja and bibi in PDMs, IK will do the same to Bajwa, claim Zadari and NS are innocent but it was the army all along in bed with the amreekans, whatever happens IK has dug the hole he sits in much deeper.
 
Notice the stone dead silence from the establishment.

The umpire is appearing silent and neutral but is fully behind the pdm movement of crooks to takeover. How else can a motely crew of idiots get together so fast and spring into action and table a motion out of nowhere.

The message probably came to bajwa from the eu and usa alongwith the indian brahmos missile as a warning.
Not surprising since a lot of these in establishment have family and business interests in the west they are just as bad as the pmln and ppp family dynasties who have compromised national security.
 
In a world full of Sharifs, Zardaris, Fazlus be like Imran Khan where the respect for your nation makes you emotional. This was heart breaking moment for me to see IK so emotional and on the verge of tears.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ur" dir="rtl">خان صاحب زیادہ بوجھ ہوا تو چھوڑ جانا مگر ٹوٹنا مت۔۔ رہنا ایسے ہی فولاد کی طرح ۔۔ اس قوم کا شاید ابھی سمجھ نا آئے<br> مگر بعد میں ہاتھ لگا کر روئیں گے ۔۔<br>پہلے بھی تو 40 سال چوروں میں ہی کاٹے ہیں آگے بھی کاٹ لیں گے۔۔ ہم شاید آپ کا راستہ سمجھ ہی نہین پا رہے۔۔<br> <a href="https://t.co/4drLGVu1c4">pic.twitter.com/4drLGVu1c4</a></p>— Imran Afzal Raja®️عمران افضل راجہ (@ImranARaja1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranARaja1/status/1508525976732454919?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I have no problem with this drama. All politicians do it. But surely they could have done a better story. The most sophisticated spy agency in the world wants to destabilize PTI and conveys this through a letter.

They did not say destabilize PTI, they said destabilize Pakistan. I request closet patwaris like to come out and openly declare allegiance to traitors like Nawaz rather than hiding behind neutrality.
 
IK spent his first 2 years running around trying to woo donald trump, when he couldnt get any money he turned to china and sucked pakistan into a big debt bubble

However now his claims are only going to play in Bajwas hands as when things get out of control which they will, he can takeover based on IKs claim of foreign conspiracy.

Do you think this time like when Mush was in power and IK sat with ganja and bibi in PDMs, IK will do the same to Bajwa, claim Zadari and NS are innocent but it was the army all along in bed with the amreekans, whatever happens IK has dug the hole he sits in much deeper.

So you are saying what IK is saying is fake and incorrect, meaning we should believe you over IK. What are your credentials again Mr. PetroDollars?


Asad Umar did a press conference today giving more details of the threatening letter. It said a no confidence motion will be moved against you and lo and behold no confidence was moved shortly after. Perhaps before dismissing it as fake and made up you may need to do your research how the west has time and again executed regime changes in countries that they want influence over.
 
Notice the stone dead silence from the establishment.

The umpire is appearing silent and neutral but is fully behind the pdm movement of crooks to takeover. How else can a motely crew of idiots get together so fast and spring into action and table a motion out of nowhere.

The message probably came to bajwa from the eu and usa alongwith the indian brahmos missile as a warning.
Not surprising since a lot of these in establishment have family and business interests in the west they are just as bad as the pmln and ppp family dynasties who have compromised national security.

Elements of the fauj is holding Pakistan back.

They are the real ones in cahoots with foreign agencies.
 
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Pakistan is not a big player in the global level. With Afghanistan under Taliban now, Not even Amreekans will be paying any attention to Pakistan. They very well know the role played by Pakistan in bringing Taliban back to power.
 
and funny thing is apart from IK no other official know about this letter not even establishment or our agencies. And it is inside PM pocket just like a tissue paper.

If it weren't spoken about seriously, this would have been considered a spoof.
 
So you are saying what IK is saying is fake and incorrect, meaning we should believe you over IK. What are your credentials again Mr. PetroDollars?


Asad Umar did a press conference today giving more details of the threatening letter. It said a no confidence motion will be moved against you and lo and behold no confidence was moved shortly after. Perhaps before dismissing it as fake and made up you may need to do your research how the west has time and again executed regime changes in countries that they want influence over.

What ever the proof or letter is, IK needs to put it up or shut up, these things have been used in Pak politics since day 1 to fool the awwam.
 
Made up conspiracy.

First of all the likes of cia dont write letters they use cables.

Also imran said our army doesnt know about this....

So now only imran knows about, just shows how childish this whole story is. Even if we believe that such conspiracy exists how is possible that the armed forces dont know but our pm saab knows.
 
Lets say this conspiracy letter is from amreeka, than shouldnt the dispora living in North america return back home for the love of country.

Why live in a place that is actively acting against your country or your favourite leader?
 
Foreign interference in Pakistan is nothing new - one of the purposes of the US-NATO-Western mission in Afghanistan was to destabilize and ultimately destroy Pakistan, the only nuclear-armed Muslim nation. The plan succeeded in part, with 'terrorist' attacks' becoming almost a daily occurrence, millions of Afghans displaced and entering the country as refugees, and NATO provided with two supply routes.

Pakistan military and Intel aligned themselves with US, fearing opposition would devastate the country. Fast forward to the present day, Imran Khan, upon election, made abundantly clear to the US that he would not allow Pakistan to participate in any of its 'wars,' that it would only ever be a partner in peace. The US needs vassals in strategic regions to act as conduits for its surreptitious operations - Pakistan is positioned close to China, viewed as an existential threat to US hegemony, and is also very closely aligned with it. Pakistan has also developed close working relations with Russia - Imran Khan's recent visit to Moscow underlined that important strategic manoeuvre. The conflict between pro-US-Ukraine and independent-non-compliant Russia brings into sharp focus geopolitical relationships and how they effect individual nations as well as entire regions.

Imran Khan reiterated his opposition to the 'war' in Ukraine whilst in Moscow, but adopted an independent, neutral stance - one which, privately, must have infuriated the US, as it always expected Pakistan to fall in line and back its anti-Russia crusade. That is the back-drop to the political instability in Pakistan - this is how all regime change operations begin: depict the leader as immoral, corrupt, avaricious, busy lining his pockets whilst slaughtering his impoverished compatriots and incarcerating or assassinating political opponents. This is how Vladimir Putin is being portrayed, how Bashar al-Assad was portrayed, Muammar Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Viktor Yanukovych and so on.

The balkanization of India - broken up into 3 and then 4 parts - is the pattern, the model, the template. It is how Yugoslavia was destroyed, how larger countries are dismantled and statelets created - far easier to manipulate, control and wipe out when they have served their purpose. It is the goal of the US-West to destabilize and balkanize Russia - an Orthodox Christian country, more Muslims live in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, a stable, secure, huge, nuclear-powered nation with masses of oil and gas.

Pakistan's neutrality means the US cannot use, bully, intimidate, bribe or threaten it to serve its military, political, economic, strategic interests. And the only way for the US to force Pakistan into full compliance is to have Imran Khan removed by what appears to be an organic Pakistani uprising against his alleged misrule. The CIA destroyed Yugoslavia by weaponizing Kosovo against Serbs - the US has a record of using assets or operatives already implanted and installed in the countries it intends to destroy, so 'foreign interference' in Pakistan is not only possible, but probably true. This is all about destroying Russia - then China, Iran, three non-compliant countries that threaten US hegemony.

https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LAhPNBUgg
 
What ever the proof or letter is, IK needs to put it up or shut up, these things have been used in Pak politics since day 1 to fool the awwam.

I see that you ran away from my questions.


The letter is being shared with CJ and also the security establishment. Or do you want to him to come to your residence and share it with you so that your highness believes it?
 
Foreign interference in Pakistan is nothing new - one of the purposes of the US-NATO-Western mission in Afghanistan was to destabilize and ultimately destroy Pakistan, the only nuclear-armed Muslim nation. The plan succeeded in part, with 'terrorist' attacks' becoming almost a daily occurrence, millions of Afghans displaced and entering the country as refugees, and NATO provided with two supply routes.

Pakistan military and Intel aligned themselves with US, fearing opposition would devastate the country. Fast forward to the present day, Imran Khan, upon election, made abundantly clear to the US that he would not allow Pakistan to participate in any of its 'wars,' that it would only ever be a partner in peace. The US needs vassals in strategic regions to act as conduits for its surreptitious operations - Pakistan is positioned close to China, viewed as an existential threat to US hegemony, and is also very closely aligned with it. Pakistan has also developed close working relations with Russia - Imran Khan's recent visit to Moscow underlined that important strategic manoeuvre. The conflict between pro-US-Ukraine and independent-non-compliant Russia brings into sharp focus geopolitical relationships and how they effect individual nations as well as entire regions.

Imran Khan reiterated his opposition to the 'war' in Ukraine whilst in Moscow, but adopted an independent, neutral stance - one which, privately, must have infuriated the US, as it always expected Pakistan to fall in line and back its anti-Russia crusade. That is the back-drop to the political instability in Pakistan - this is how all regime change operations begin: depict the leader as immoral, corrupt, avaricious, busy lining his pockets whilst slaughtering his impoverished compatriots and incarcerating or assassinating political opponents. This is how Vladimir Putin is being portrayed, how Bashar al-Assad was portrayed, Muammar Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Viktor Yanukovych and so on.

The balkanization of India - broken up into 3 and then 4 parts - is the pattern, the model, the template. It is how Yugoslavia was destroyed, how larger countries are dismantled and statelets created - far easier to manipulate, control and wipe out when they have served their purpose. It is the goal of the US-West to destabilize and balkanize Russia - an Orthodox Christian country, more Muslims live in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, a stable, secure, huge, nuclear-powered nation with masses of oil and gas.

Pakistan's neutrality means the US cannot use, bully, intimidate, bribe or threaten it to serve its military, political, economic, strategic interests. And the only way for the US to force Pakistan into full compliance is to have Imran Khan removed by what appears to be an organic Pakistani uprising against his alleged misrule. The CIA destroyed Yugoslavia by weaponizing Kosovo against Serbs - the US has a record of using assets or operatives already implanted and installed in the countries it intends to destroy, so 'foreign interference' in Pakistan is not only possible, but probably true. This is all about destroying Russia - then China, Iran, three non-compliant countries that threaten US hegemony.

https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LAhPNBUgg

Unique , reminds me of Indian uncle thought process before 1990, leveling same accusations against NATO-Pakistan wrt India.

How times have changed.
 
Foreign interference in Pakistan is nothing new - one of the purposes of the US-NATO-Western mission in Afghanistan was to destabilize and ultimately destroy Pakistan, the only nuclear-armed Muslim nation. The plan succeeded in part, with 'terrorist' attacks' becoming almost a daily occurrence, millions of Afghans displaced and entering the country as refugees, and NATO provided with two supply routes.

Pakistan military and Intel aligned themselves with US, fearing opposition would devastate the country. Fast forward to the present day, Imran Khan, upon election, made abundantly clear to the US that he would not allow Pakistan to participate in any of its 'wars,' that it would only ever be a partner in peace. The US needs vassals in strategic regions to act as conduits for its surreptitious operations - Pakistan is positioned close to China, viewed as an existential threat to US hegemony, and is also very closely aligned with it. Pakistan has also developed close working relations with Russia - Imran Khan's recent visit to Moscow underlined that important strategic manoeuvre. The conflict between pro-US-Ukraine and independent-non-compliant Russia brings into sharp focus geopolitical relationships and how they effect individual nations as well as entire regions.

Imran Khan reiterated his opposition to the 'war' in Ukraine whilst in Moscow, but adopted an independent, neutral stance - one which, privately, must have infuriated the US, as it always expected Pakistan to fall in line and back its anti-Russia crusade. That is the back-drop to the political instability in Pakistan - this is how all regime change operations begin: depict the leader as immoral, corrupt, avaricious, busy lining his pockets whilst slaughtering his impoverished compatriots and incarcerating or assassinating political opponents. This is how Vladimir Putin is being portrayed, how Bashar al-Assad was portrayed, Muammar Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Viktor Yanukovych and so on.

The balkanization of India - broken up into 3 and then 4 parts - is the pattern, the model, the template. It is how Yugoslavia was destroyed, how larger countries are dismantled and statelets created - far easier to manipulate, control and wipe out when they have served their purpose. It is the goal of the US-West to destabilize and balkanize Russia - an Orthodox Christian country, more Muslims live in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, a stable, secure, huge, nuclear-powered nation with masses of oil and gas.

Pakistan's neutrality means the US cannot use, bully, intimidate, bribe or threaten it to serve its military, political, economic, strategic interests. And the only way for the US to force Pakistan into full compliance is to have Imran Khan removed by what appears to be an organic Pakistani uprising against his alleged misrule. The CIA destroyed Yugoslavia by weaponizing Kosovo against Serbs - the US has a record of using assets or operatives already implanted and installed in the countries it intends to destroy, so 'foreign interference' in Pakistan is not only possible, but probably true. This is all about destroying Russia - then China, Iran, three non-compliant countries that threaten US hegemony.

https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LAhPNBUgg

thanks for that. had a hearty laugh.
 
Have they confirmed what language the letter is written in? If it's Hindi that's a dead give away.
 
Made up conspiracy.

First of all the likes of cia dont write letters they use cables.

Also imran said our army doesnt know about this....

So now only imran knows about, just shows how childish this whole story is. Even if we believe that such conspiracy exists how is possible that the armed forces dont know but our pm saab knows.

How do you know this is from the CIA?

American politicians or those working for the government do not want IK to lead, as he is nobodys B. This is nothing new for US, to change regimes around the world, this is their main weapon.

Pakistan must get rid of traitors, the 3 stooges first.
 
Former prime minister and PML-N leader Shahid Khaqan Abbasi demanded on Tuesday that a session of parliament be called "immediately" tomorrow (Wednesday) and the letter — which Prime Minister Imran Khan claimed during the PTI's March 27 rally contained evidence of a "foreign-funded conspiracy" to topple his government — be shared with parliamentarians.

The prime minister had said while addressing the rally that he was in possession of evidence — a letter — that would prove his claims of attempts being made from abroad to influence Pakistan's foreign policy and efforts being made "through foreign money to change the government in Pakistan".

"Mostly inadvertently, but some people are using money against us. We know from what places attempts are being made to pressure us. We have been threatened in writing but we will not compromise on national interest," he had said.

Addressing a press conference in Islamabad today, Abbasi equated PM Imran's claim to a threat to Pakistan and further demanded that all diplomatic relations be broken with the country that had "threatened Pakistan" through the letter and its envoy be expelled.

"This is how a sovereign country reacts when it is threatened," he added.

Abbasi also referred to federal ministers Asad Umar and Fawad Chaudhry announcing earlier in the day that PM Imran was willing to show the letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial and that its contents were linked to the country's foreign policy.

"The opposition has grave concerns over some of the details shared by the premier and his ministers and there is a need to get to the bottom of these matters," he said. "If the prime minister is speaking the truth, then this is how you should act ... and if not, come to parliament and apologise."

Specifically speaking about PM Imran's March 27 speech, Abbasi said: "He (PM Imran) was crying about receiving threats. The person who told others not to worry seemed worried himself. Whether he was worried about the no-confidence motion [filed against him in the National Assembly], his [looming] ouster or something else, we do not know. But this is a reality that the prime minister of a nation of 230 million Muslims waved a paper and said he had been receiving threats."

He showed the paper as proof of the threat, Abbasi said, adding that "keeping politics aside, I, too, am worried about my prime minister crying about receiving threats" as, in this case, the threat had been made to Pakistan.

"Threats are not made to a prime minister but a country," he remarked.

Therefore, he said, he was demanding that a session of parliament be convened on an immediate basis tomorrow and the letter be shared with parliamentarians.

"And if this is a secretive matter, an in-camera session should be held," Abbasi continued, adding that parliamentarians should be told which country had dared to threaten Pakistan.

"No one had dared to do so in our 74-year-long history," he said, asking, "Are we so weak now that we are being threatened through a letter?"

"Entire parliament should be taken into confidence on this," he added.

The prime minister, he said, should come to the parliament tomorrow and tell parliamentarians who had threatened Pakistan. "We are with him on this. We are with him [on this] for the remaining six days for which he will remain the prime minister".

"Don't we have the courage to name [that country]?" he added.

"A threat has been made to our country and we have to respond to it collectively. This is not just about Imran Khan and his two ministers. This is about 230m people of Pakistan and there is a need to respond to this threat," Abbasi stressed.

Abbasi said if the government would not show the letter now, "it will be shown after April 4. It will be published in newspapers".

"If it is not presented in parliament now, it would be presented next week, that is if it exists at all. The real issue is that nobody knows whether the letter exists."

"And why was it not shared earlier? Why did you keep it hidden?" Abbasi questioned.

The PML-N leader said it should also be discussed in the parliament why the letter had surfaced right before the start of no-confidence proceedings against PM Imran.

Further referring to federal ministers Asad Umar and Fawad Chaudhry alleging that and PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif was involved in the conspiracy that the letter detailed, Abbasi said the two ministers should either show proof of their claims in the court or apologise.

"Because you have not accused an ordinary prime minister but the one who made this country an atomic power," Abbasi remarked.

He added that the government should not put the country's foreign policy at stake to stay in power and if a threat had been made, the matter should be raised in the National Security Committee and parliament.

"We will fight these external dangers together, but if you are lying, you will have to answer to the nation. The decision is yours. Either [share the letter] in parliament or apologise," Abbasi said.

DAWN
 
Addressing a press conference in Islamabad today, Abbasi equated PM Imran's claim to a threat to Pakistan and further demanded that all diplomatic relations be broken with the country that had "threatened Pakistan" through the letter and its envoy be expelled.

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Well fair point but if it’s India diplomatic relations are already broken .
 
How do you know this is from the CIA?

American politicians or those working for the government do not want IK to lead, as he is nobodys B. This is nothing new for US, to change regimes around the world, this is their main weapon.

Pakistan must get rid of traitors, the 3 stooges first.

So joe biden is trying to remove imran? :facepalm:
 
Logical question, American govt has always dealt with the Pakistani army because it was always the military or intelligence support they always needed from Pakistan, so why would they bypass the army and threaten Imran Khan is what I don’t get.

There is a video of Imran tearing up due to the threat in the letter, this should be an international issue discussed in the UN shouldn’t it?

Why is this being brushed off in a political tamasha?

If Indian Pm had claimed foreign country was threatening him, it would be treated as a huge deal. Why is this being looked like a letter written by PappuB@gmail.com to scare away the Nzl team?
 
So joe biden is trying to remove imran? :facepalm:

Joe Biden? Do you really believe he - or any POTUS - has real power or is independent of the Military Industrial Complex?

It's truly hard to comprehend how people - especially Muslims/Pakistanis - believe absolutely everything that emanates from the West and reject everything that contradicts their narratives and agendas.

Even after
Yugoslavia - destroyed by weaponizing Kosova against Serbs (CIA funded the KLA)
Iraq - destroyed through manufactured claims of WMDs
Afghanistan - destroyed for its apparent involvement in 9/11, to destabilize nuclear-armed Pakistan,
Syria - destroyed because Assad was 'butchering' his own people - actually to facilitate Greater Israel, bring down Hezbu-Llah (defeated Israel after it invaded, kicking it out of Lebanon) and regime-change (the real target)
Libya - destroyed because Ghaddafi was slaughtering his own people, in reality to decimate the most prosperous, non-compliant African/Muslim nation,
Ukraine - 2014 US-engineered coup, removal of 'corrupt, evil Yanukovych' who was pro-Russian, installation of a pro-US puppet regime led by Poroshenko, now Zionist/neo-Nazi-backed Zelensky - weaponization of Ukraine against Russia, a historic adversary of the US/West, to destabilize and balkanize it.

Not to mention regime change efforts in Venezuela, drone bombings in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

If Pakistanis cannot discern the truth they truly do not deserve to have Imran Khan as PM - he is being demonized, dehumanized the way Jeremy Corbyn in Britain was - the only leader to break from the West and carve out a path of real independence. It seems the awestruck, subservient, compliant mindset instilled into peoples of the sub-Continent by the British not only lives on but thrives. Which means Indians and Pakistanis will never ever attain true freedom from their colonial past.
 
How do you know this is from the CIA?

American politicians or those working for the government do not want IK to lead, as he is nobodys B. This is nothing new for US, to change regimes around the world, this is their main weapon.

Pakistan must get rid of traitors, the 3 stooges first.



Brother, I invite you to watch the videos I posted - Oliver Stone's 'Ukraine On Fire'(which has been removed from various platforms, including YouTube because it exposes the truth), and Scott Ritter's analysis of the Russia-Ukraine conflict (he is a former marine, Intel officer). It's all there - if people are really interested in the truth. And, neither Oliver Stone nor Scott Ritter are Russians, both are well-known Americans.

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
 
Joe Biden? Do you really believe he - or any POTUS - has real power or is independent of the Military Industrial Complex?

It's truly hard to comprehend how people - especially Muslims/Pakistanis - believe absolutely everything that emanates from the West and reject everything that contradicts their narratives and agendas.

Even after
Yugoslavia - destroyed by weaponizing Kosova against Serbs (CIA funded the KLA)
Iraq - destroyed through manufactured claims of WMDs
Afghanistan - destroyed for its apparent involvement in 9/11, to destabilize nuclear-armed Pakistan,
Syria - destroyed because Assad was 'butchering' his own people - actually to facilitate Greater Israel, bring down Hezbu-Llah (defeated Israel after it invaded, kicking it out of Lebanon) and regime-change (the real target)
Libya - destroyed because Ghaddafi was slaughtering his own people, in reality to decimate the most prosperous, non-compliant African/Muslim nation,
Ukraine - 2014 US-engineered coup, removal of 'corrupt, evil Yanukovych' who was pro-Russian, installation of a pro-US puppet regime led by Poroshenko, now Zionist/neo-Nazi-backed Zelensky - weaponization of Ukraine against Russia, a historic adversary of the US/West, to destabilize and balkanize it.

Not to mention regime change efforts in Venezuela, drone bombings in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

If Pakistanis cannot discern the truth they truly do not deserve to have Imran Khan as PM - he is being demonized, dehumanized the way Jeremy Corbyn in Britain was - the only leader to break from the West and carve out a path of real independence. It seems the awestruck, subservient, compliant mindset instilled into peoples of the sub-Continent by the British not only lives on but thrives. Which means Indians and Pakistanis will never ever attain true freedom from their colonial past.

SO CIA has the power to topple governments and destabilize Pakistan and yet they didn’t know about Pakistan going nuclear in 1990s.

Either they are dumb or they are good, please decide on one.
 
Joe Biden? Do you really believe he - or any POTUS - has real power or is independent of the Military Industrial Complex?

It's truly hard to comprehend how people - especially Muslims/Pakistanis - believe absolutely everything that emanates from the West and reject everything that contradicts their narratives and agendas.

Even after
Yugoslavia - destroyed by weaponizing Kosova against Serbs (CIA funded the KLA)
Iraq - destroyed through manufactured claims of WMDs
Afghanistan - destroyed for its apparent involvement in 9/11, to destabilize nuclear-armed Pakistan,
Syria - destroyed because Assad was 'butchering' his own people - actually to facilitate Greater Israel, bring down Hezbu-Llah (defeated Israel after it invaded, kicking it out of Lebanon) and regime-change (the real target)
Libya - destroyed because Ghaddafi was slaughtering his own people, in reality to decimate the most prosperous, non-compliant African/Muslim nation,
Ukraine - 2014 US-engineered coup, removal of 'corrupt, evil Yanukovych' who was pro-Russian, installation of a pro-US puppet regime led by Poroshenko, now Zionist/neo-Nazi-backed Zelensky - weaponization of Ukraine against Russia, a historic adversary of the US/West, to destabilize and balkanize it.

Not to mention regime change efforts in Venezuela, drone bombings in Somalia, Pakistan, etc.

If Pakistanis cannot discern the truth they truly do not deserve to have Imran Khan as PM - he is being demonized, dehumanized the way Jeremy Corbyn in Britain was - the only leader to break from the West and carve out a path of real independence. It seems the awestruck, subservient, compliant mindset instilled into peoples of the sub-Continent by the British not only lives on but thrives. Which means Indians and Pakistanis will never ever attain true freedom from their colonial past.

We dont want imran thank you.

Every conspiracy that is made up isnt suppose to be believed in..

Such things of removing a president or pm is not done by mail.. its done by cables.

Imran claims to have a letter, if you are going to say that a letter was written by someone that said they will remove him, than I cant even argue on such fantasies.

Funny how pakistans made fun of new zealand running away on a alleged bogus email are now believeing that someone wrote a letter to imran to be removed
 
PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz has come down hard on Prime Minister Imran Khan for claiming that foreign elements were behind opposition’s no-trust motion to topple his government.

“Nawaz Sharif was thrice removed from the post of prime minister but he did not let national security to be harmed. He did not make false accusations against anyone,” she said in a series of tweets on her official Twitter handle on Tuesday.

Her statement comes after Federal Minister Asad Umar on Tuesday said that Prime Minister Imran is willing to share the letter, which he claimed contained evidence of a "foreign-funded" conspiracy to topple his government, with Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial.

In a press conference with Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry, the planning minister said: “If anyone has any doubt, then the prime minister is ready to show this letter, he waved in front of the nation during the speech, to the chief justice of Pakistan since he is on an important position,” said Umar and added that the 'central character' in the letter sent to the premier was PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif.

“What could be more dangerous and unfortunate for any country that a ‘foolish and ignorant’ person like [PM] Imran makes decision about their future and fate,” Maryam tweeted.

“It is impossible to imagine any more dangerous consequences that the country has suffered under your [PM Imran] rule.”

She also warned the premier against “disgracing Pakistan” and “playing” with the country’s national security saying “reign in your emotions”.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/235015...rns-pm-against-playing-with-national-security
 
We dont want imran thank you.

Who the hell are you to decide that?

Every day you keep barking about democracy.... only want democracy when the majority agrees with you? Here is a newsflash kid. Do 10 elections in Pakistan and PTI will be the largest party 10/10. Your beloved Billoo can barely manage a single seat outside of Sindh.


Don't speak for EVERYONE by using the term we. Corruption supporters like you are very much in the minority in Pakistan. You must have seen the jalsa over the weekend and gotten your answer as to how popular Imran is.
 
Logical question, American govt has always dealt with the Pakistani army because it was always the military or intelligence support they always needed from Pakistan, so why would they bypass the army and threaten Imran Khan is what I don’t get.

There is a video of Imran tearing up due to the threat in the letter, this should be an international issue discussed in the UN shouldn’t it?

Why is this being brushed off in a political tamasha?

If Indian Pm had claimed foreign country was threatening him, it would be treated as a huge deal. Why is this being looked like a letter written by PappuB@gmail.com to scare away the Nzl team?

Exactly my point.

First of all, letters of removal arnt written cant be written. Or else such things could lead to an international crises as that would be direct proof of an international country trying to do a regime change.

No country would ever try to write a letter.

However, such communications do happen through cables and they cannot be picked up by some pm, they are picked up by the intelligence.

Now imran claimed that even the army is not aware of this letter. Lets assume that this so called letter, is not a letter but a transcript of a cable, than only isi can get such info, and isi is milltary intelligence, thus how can army not know and the pm know?

Ridiculous stuff. He himself contradicted his own statement when he said the army doesnt know.

The fans going crazy are the same fans who made fun of nz team of running away due to an alleged fake threatening email.
 
So US executing regime changes all over South America, Iran etc etc is just a figment of our imagination? :asad1

It’s not.. but they are well aware regarding nuclear ambitions of any country esp Pak in that decade as it was their ally.

So if America really wanted to destabilize Pakistan ,it would had done it by 2010 and not go after Afghanistan just to destabilize Pakistan.
 
It’s not.. but they are well aware regarding nuclear ambitions of any country esp Pak in that decade as it was their ally.

So if America really wanted to destabilize Pakistan ,it would had done it by 2010 and not go after Afghanistan just to destabilize Pakistan.

Why dwell in the past?

Lets talk about US's attitude with IK since he took office and their sleepy Joe (a front man of US establishment) won elections

1. Sleepy Joe refused to call or meet IK
2. Totally ignored Pakistan's role in bringing stability to Afghanistan and brokering a peace deal during Trump admin.
3. IK said absolutely not to giving bases to US, since there has been a visible uptick in terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
4. Arm twisting through FATF and IMF. Pakistan has met all FATF requirements and still in grey list yet we are more compliant than those administrating the requirements. IMF setting ever more unachievable targets in every meet.
5. US ambassador meeting opposition political leaders such as Shahbaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz who is a convict out on bail. Can Pakistani ambassador in US meet a convicted opposition leader?
6. Pakistan being forced to give anti-Russia statement and IK asked to not go ahead with Russia visit


Are these enough examples of US's attempts to destabilize Pakistan in the recent past?
 
Why dwell in the past?

Lets talk about US's attitude with IK since he took office and their sleepy Joe (a front man of US establishment) won elections

1. Sleepy Joe refused to call or meet IK
2. Totally ignored Pakistan's role in bringing stability to Afghanistan and brokering a peace deal during Trump admin.
3. IK said absolutely not to giving bases to US, since there has been a visible uptick in terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
4. Arm twisting through FATF and IMF. Pakistan has met all FATF requirements and still in grey list yet we are more compliant than those administrating the requirements. IMF setting ever more unachievable targets in every meet.
5. US ambassador meeting opposition political leaders such as Shahbaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz who is a convict out on bail. Can Pakistani ambassador in US meet a convicted opposition leader?
6. Pakistan being forced to give anti-Russia statement and IK asked to not go ahead with Russia visit


Are these enough examples of US's attempts to destabilize Pakistan in the recent past?

Currently they might want to remove him(never said no there).. my point was to the poster on destabilizing Pakistan(because of its Nuclear status) by attacking Afghanistan .. which I said didn’t make sense.
 
Brother, I invite you to watch the videos I posted - Oliver Stone's 'Ukraine On Fire'(which has been removed from various platforms, including YouTube because it exposes the truth), and Scott Ritter's analysis of the Russia-Ukraine conflict (he is a former marine, Intel officer). It's all there - if people are really interested in the truth. And, neither Oliver Stone nor Scott Ritter are Russians, both are well-known Americans.

https://twitter.com/RealScottRitter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

I am planning on watching these , thanks for the reminder sister.

Have you seen the Putin interviews with Stone? Is this same?

BBC,CNN and all western media are simply lying through their teeth. I never seen so much propaganda...ever
 
Man, Pakistanis live in la la land. Delusional and looks so much like 80's and 90's Indian uncles with their conspiracy theories.

Foreign interference in Pakistan is nothing new - one of the purposes of the US-NATO-Western mission in Afghanistan was to destabilize and ultimately destroy Pakistan, the only nuclear-armed Muslim nation. The plan succeeded in part, with 'terrorist' attacks' becoming almost a daily occurrence, millions of Afghans displaced and entering the country as refugees, and NATO provided with two supply routes.

Pakistan military and Intel aligned themselves with US, fearing opposition would devastate the country. Fast forward to the present day, Imran Khan, upon election, made abundantly clear to the US that he would not allow Pakistan to participate in any of its 'wars,' that it would only ever be a partner in peace. The US needs vassals in strategic regions to act as conduits for its surreptitious operations - Pakistan is positioned close to China, viewed as an existential threat to US hegemony, and is also very closely aligned with it. Pakistan has also developed close working relations with Russia - Imran Khan's recent visit to Moscow underlined that important strategic manoeuvre. The conflict between pro-US-Ukraine and independent-non-compliant Russia brings into sharp focus geopolitical relationships and how they effect individual nations as well as entire regions.

Imran Khan reiterated his opposition to the 'war' in Ukraine whilst in Moscow, but adopted an independent, neutral stance - one which, privately, must have infuriated the US, as it always expected Pakistan to fall in line and back its anti-Russia crusade. That is the back-drop to the political instability in Pakistan - this is how all regime change operations begin: depict the leader as immoral, corrupt, avaricious, busy lining his pockets whilst slaughtering his impoverished compatriots and incarcerating or assassinating political opponents. This is how Vladimir Putin is being portrayed, how Bashar al-Assad was portrayed, Muammar Ghaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Viktor Yanukovych and so on.

The balkanization of India - broken up into 3 and then 4 parts - is the pattern, the model, the template. It is how Yugoslavia was destroyed, how larger countries are dismantled and statelets created - far easier to manipulate, control and wipe out when they have served their purpose. It is the goal of the US-West to destabilize and balkanize Russia - an Orthodox Christian country, more Muslims live in Russia than anywhere else in Europe, a stable, secure, huge, nuclear-powered nation with masses of oil and gas.

Pakistan's neutrality means the US cannot use, bully, intimidate, bribe or threaten it to serve its military, political, economic, strategic interests. And the only way for the US to force Pakistan into full compliance is to have Imran Khan removed by what appears to be an organic Pakistani uprising against his alleged misrule. The CIA destroyed Yugoslavia by weaponizing Kosovo against Serbs - the US has a record of using assets or operatives already implanted and installed in the countries it intends to destroy, so 'foreign interference' in Pakistan is not only possible, but probably true. This is all about destroying Russia - then China, Iran, three non-compliant countries that threaten US hegemony.

https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LAhPNBUgg
 
Any other sane country's pm complaining about external threat will result in issue being taken up with the ambassador of the said count. Why the ambassador was not asked to explain the threat. Looks bogus. If it was true first step would be convey some kind of national security meeting and reach out to the target country through their ambassador.

Logical question, American govt has always dealt with the Pakistani army because it was always the military or intelligence support they always needed from Pakistan, so why would they bypass the army and threaten Imran Khan is what I don’t get.

There is a video of Imran tearing up due to the threat in the letter, this should be an international issue discussed in the UN shouldn’t it?

Why is this being brushed off in a political tamasha?

If Indian Pm had claimed foreign country was threatening him, it would be treated as a huge deal. Why is this being looked like a letter written by PappuB@gmail.com to scare away the Nzl team?
 
Why dwell in the past?

Lets talk about US's attitude with IK since he took office and their sleepy Joe (a front man of US establishment) won elections

1. Sleepy Joe refused to call or meet IK
2. Totally ignored Pakistan's role in bringing stability to Afghanistan and brokering a peace deal during Trump admin.
3. IK said absolutely not to giving bases to US, since there has been a visible uptick in terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
4. Arm twisting through FATF and IMF. Pakistan has met all FATF requirements and still in grey list yet we are more compliant than those administrating the requirements. IMF setting ever more unachievable targets in every meet.
5. US ambassador meeting opposition political leaders such as Shahbaz Sharif and Maryam Nawaz who is a convict out on bail. Can Pakistani ambassador in US meet a convicted opposition leader?
6. Pakistan being forced to give anti-Russia statement and IK asked to not go ahead with Russia visit


Are these enough examples of US's attempts to destabilize Pakistan in the recent past?

1. Americans are out if Afghanistan. Pakistan is no more useful to them. If they need pakistan, Americans have enough contact within military to push their agenda
2. Afghanistan is not stable and no one apart from Pakistanis believe they had any positive impact in Afghanistan
3. Or may be they are just regrouping
4. May be don't go to IMF and you don't have to bow to them.
5. You can meet anyone in US. Who will stop them?
6. Don't give. Same pressure on india and they are not seeing any conspiracy

Absolutely nothing you listed says USA is destabilizing pakistan. Most of it just diplomatic setback or pakistans irrelevance to America right now.
 
So you are saying what IK is saying is fake and incorrect, meaning we should believe you over IK. What are your credentials again Mr. PetroDollars?


Asad Umar did a press conference today giving more details of the threatening letter. It said a no confidence motion will be moved against you and lo and behold no confidence was moved shortly after. Perhaps before dismissing it as fake and made up you may need to do your research how the west has time and again executed regime changes in countries that they want influence over.

Bhai even if I believe you - why would anyone covey their intentions for regime change through a “letter”? 🤔
 
They also signed, dated and notarized so that there won't be a y doubt about them trying to destabilize pakistan /s just in case

Bhai even if I believe you - why would anyone covey their intentions for regime change through a “letter”? 🤔
 
They also signed, dated and notarized so that there won't be a y doubt about them trying to destabilize pakistan /s just in case

That’s exactly how diplomatic communication NOT works.

Seems fake to me..
 
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan has said that the ‘threat letter’ could not be shared publically in view of the foreign policy, however, his government offered to share it with the chief justice, ARY News reported on Tuesday.

The premier said that the threat letter was received on March 7, just one day before the tabling of the no-trust move.

PM Khan chaired a session of the spokespersons in which the participants were briefed on the current political situation and content of the foreign threat letter. They were told that the purpose of sharing the letter with the chief justice is revealing the facts.

The spokespersons were informed that the government was threatened with serious consequences over the failure of the no-confidence motion.

He said that global powers used to influence the governments in Pakistan. He added that he will fulfil his promise to the nation not to bow his head before anyone. The premier said that the no-confidence motion will be failed.

“We have started contacting Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) lawmakers and they will soon join back the government. The situation will be clearer in a few days.”

The spokespersons questioned giving Punjab chief ministership to the Pakistan Muslim League Quaid (PML-Q). To this, the premier replied that he took the decision after deliberation, adding that tough decisions are needed to achieve a great goal.

READ: SHEHBAZ SHARIF SAYS WILL STAND WITH PM IMRAN KHAN ON ONE CONDITION

PM Khan said that some people used to sell their consciences for personal benefits. He praised Usman Buzdar for implementing the PTI manifesto.

Earlier in the day, Federal Minister for Planning, Development and Special Initiatives Asad Umar said that PM Imran Khan is ready to share the letter of threats he received from ‘foreign elements’ with Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial.

Asad Umar made the remarks in a press conference along with Federal Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry.

“If anyone has doubt regarding the credibility of the letter, PM Imran Khan is ready to share foreign threat letter with CJP Bandial,” he said, adding that the government had shared the letter with military leadership and some cabinet members.

Imran Khan had claimed on Sunday that the opposition’s no-trust move is part of an alleged “foreign-funded conspiracy” hatched against his government over his refusal to have Pakistan’s foreign policy be influenced from abroad.

ARY
 
I am disappointed. Not a single mention of RAW so far.

In the 'kaanspiracy theory' awards Imran's letter only gets the runner up position.
Indian intelligence agencies that captured ISI spy pigeons takes the big trophy!
 
We are not living in British colonial time to drop letters.lol:facepalm
In digital era, who will share confidential information via letters.

Seems Fake one.
 
Prime Minister Imran Khan announced on Wednesday that he would show a "letter" he brandished at the PTI's March 27 power show, purportedly containing evidence of a foreign conspiracy against the government, to senior journalists and the government's allies later today.

He made the revelation while addressing a ceremony for the launch of the e-passport facility in Islamabad.

The development also comes a day after the government said the premier was ready to share the letter with the chief justice of Pakistan. At the same time, it claimed that the letter could not be presented in parliament due to the "sensitivity" of the issues.

In the PTI’s public meeting in Islamabad on Sunday, the premier had pulled out a piece of paper from his pocket and waved it at the crowd, claiming it was evidence of an “international conspiracy” being hatched to topple his government.


“Foreign funding is being used to change the government. Money is coming from abroad and people inside the country are being used. Some of them are unaware they are being used and some are intentionally using this money against us,” he had alleged.

During today's ceremony, the prime minister touched upon the current political crisis in the country, stating that this was "nothing new" in a parliamentary democracy.

"People lose confidence in their party," he said, adding that a no-confidence motion was a "democratic" move.

"But this is a foreign imported conspiracy and it started when people from abroad started controlling Pakistan through telephone calls. They cannot tolerate a leadership that works in the people's interest."

Reiterating his criticism of America's 'war on terror', he said that Pakistan had paid a heavy price for its participation. He said that many were unaware of the exact scale of the suffering of those living in the country's tribal areas.

"We sacrificed our interests for those abroad but they never valued it," he said.

The premier said he would show the letter containing evidence of a foreign conspiracy against the government to senior journalists and allies.

"The document that I have, I will show it to senior journalists today. We want to protect the nation and can't divulge the details in public. People think this is a joke and I have decided to share it with top journalists."

He added that he would also call one member from each allied party to show them the "document and prove that it is real".

"People can take whatever decision they want to. But beware of the fact that, directly or indirectly, you may become a part of a huge international conspiracy," he said, adding that the document would provide proof of the same.

'PM can only show ‘threat letter’ to CJP'

In a joint press conference on Tuesday, Minister for Planning and Development Asad Umar and Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry said the prime minister had agreed to present the letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial.

“If someone has doubts, the prime minister says if necessary, and for the people’s satisfaction, he is ready to present the letter to the chief justice of the SC, as he enjoys a good reputation,” Umar said, adding that only three to four people, including him, had seen the letter.

“The letter has been shared with the top civil and military leadership and only two or three cabinet members,” he added.

The letter was written and dated prior to the day the opposition submitted its no-trust motion against the prime minister to the National Assembly. “It was mentioned in the letter that a no-confidence motion will be moved against the prime minister. I myself have read the letter many times,” the minister claimed.

Umar, who is also the PTI’s secretary general, alleged the principal character behind this plot against the government was Nawaz , who was facilitating the international establishment from London, while the senior leadership of the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) could also be knowingly involved in the conspiracy.

When asked why the government was not presenting the letter in parliament, he said: “Due to the sensitivity of the letter, it cannot be shared with the over 340 members of parliament, but just to satisfy the people, the prime minister has agreed to show it to the most reliable person with good reputation, the CJP,” he added.

Terming the letter a threat, the minister claimed it clearly said that if the no-confidence motion did not succeed, and PM Imran remained in office, it would have unfortunate repercussions.

Umar maintained that the letter focused on Pakistan’s foreign policy, which made it clear that it was linked to foreign elements. It also states the senior leadership of the PDM was in contact with those foreign elements, the minister alleged.

He said after these ‘realities’ were unearthed, except a few, almost all the MNAs, who were unknowingly becoming part of this “international plot”, would distance themselves from the motion.

DAWN
 
The letter conspiracy is true.... The way Imran handled it is what makes him look ridiculous.

The letter wasnt even issued to islamabad. The letter was sent to Rawalpindi. Imran only got to know about all this when he met putin and they probably intercepted communication between POTUS and COAS and presented the letter to Imran.

Now there are no foreign forces involved technically. Because the army has been asked to stay neutral and let the politicians do their thing. Thus, while the letter is true, how ever the vote of no confidence doesnt have any foreign backing.

The letter has only made sure that the army does not unfairly get involve in these democratic proceedings.

Yes, if its proven that foreign money is being given to remove someone or some trade off is being done than that is wrong.

But if the letter only warns the army to stay neutral than that is no harm. The army should stay neutral in democratic proceedings
 
Watching Imran Riaz Khan who is die hard IK supporter explain about the letter. Must say, left everyone more confused. Is it a cable ? or a letter ? or a communication ? How is Sharif involved ? They are just making it up as they go along. How can you disclose this directly for CJP ? Surely there must be protocol here and it should be vetted by iSI first. A standing PM is saying these things. I don't think IK had to embarrass himself like this. Just dissolve the assembly and rally the people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ_AY_MoWy4&t=825s
 
Details of the 'letter' emerging which are actually minutes of a meeting between high ranking officials of a country and Pakistan's diplomats to that country. The PM revealed the info to select journalists today:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The letter that PM <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> showed at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Islamabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Islamabad</a> jalsa are minutes of an important meeting between extremely important officials of a country and our diplomats in that country. The message was conveyed on behalf of the highest officials in that country.</p>— Fereehaidrees@abbtakk (@Fereeha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fereeha/status/1509176051062251528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The message mentioned a regime change as "eminent" in Pak. The conversation entailed as seeing PM <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a> as problem between a cordial bilateral relationship between the countries. The highest official sent the message that if VONC is overruled, there will be consequences.</p>— Fereehaidrees@abbtakk (@Fereeha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fereeha/status/1509176861867323392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the transcript that consists of more than four pages of this conversation, carries the words "VONC" and "Imran Khan", multiple times. The message is clear ,that one man is the problem and he must be eased out. The letter was sent a day before VONC was filed. <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ImranKhanPTI</a></p>— Fereehaidrees@abbtakk (@Fereeha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fereeha/status/1509177967909523461?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The crux of message, "bilateral relationship depends on one man, if he is gone,things can get better, if not,there will be a price to pay".Our diplomats then suggested that such meetings should continue,but they were told clearly that there will no further talk until "he goes".</p>— Fereehaidrees@abbtakk (@Fereeha) <a href="https://twitter.com/Fereeha/status/1509179476558630920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
The letter conspiracy is true.... The way Imran handled it is what makes him look ridiculous.

The letter wasnt even issued to islamabad. The letter was sent to Rawalpindi. Imran only got to know about all this when he met putin and they probably intercepted communication between POTUS and COAS and presented the letter to Imran.

Now there are no foreign forces involved technically. Because the army has been asked to stay neutral and let the politicians do their thing. Thus, while the letter is true, how ever the vote of no confidence doesnt have any foreign backing.

The letter has only made sure that the army does not unfairly get involve in these democratic proceedings.

Yes, if its proven that foreign money is being given to remove someone or some trade off is being done than that is wrong.

But if the letter only warns the army to stay neutral than that is no harm. The army should stay neutral in democratic proceedings

You make no sense. Who is warning our army to stay neutral? And if they are, then by definition they are interfering. Kaptaan was right and the IHC sudden involvement has shown that the whole system is run by Foreign paid agents for their own benefit.
 
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We are not living in British colonial time to drop letters.lol:facepalm
In digital era, who will share confidential information via letters.

Seems Fake one.

Not really, the IHC has virtually confirmed it's veracity by saying it cones under the Officials secrets acts. Why would a fake letter come under the official Secrets act.
 
You make no sense. Who is warning our army to stay neutral? And if they are, then by definition they are interfering. Kaptaan was right and the IHC sudden involvement has shown that the whole system is run by Foreign paid agents for their own benefit.

They are not interfering. The fact that army is being told to stay neutral it only furthers the democratic process.

Whats anti democracy is army getting involved and picking a side. But i understand you being a pti fan would have hard time understanding this as id army sides with pti that is ok in your books
 
The army is behind these crooks and bought them together there was no chance all these oddball misfits and traitors could get together in such organised fashion and start singing in tune from the same hymn sheet and get the numbers if there was no interference from foreign agency and their loyal bloodhounds in the establishment like forehead sweating, legs shaking general bajwa.
 
We are not living in British colonial time to drop letters.lol:facepalm
In digital era, who will share confidential information via letters.

Seems Fake one.

May be you are 14 years old. Or your IQ level is below zero.

All the official work in every country is done by letters with sigs and stamps.

Or, do your gov issue official notices via Whatsapp voice note?
 
We as Pakistani public don't deserve this. If the public has elected a person into power and have given him the votes then we as public deserve to have that person as our leader.

This entire process is like a circus. Give me one example from any democratic country where the party that holds the highest number of seats i.e. 155 whilst the party at second position holds just 84 seats (a massive difference). Yet the party with highest votes is unable to form the Government. This is making a mockery of the process in shameless manner. To put icing on it we as public when we voted for Imran then the public isn't even consulted on replacement of Imran.

In any case this is another lesson for Pakistani public in its long list of lessons to learn from. It is us the public that gave seats to parties like PMLN and PPP. The seed of corrupt leaders have been planted by us public and now its bearing never ending fruits for us.

On the authenticity of the so called letter any person with an iota of knowledge of Pakistan would understand that Imran's stance on many matters have made West uncomfortable. His visit to Russia just came at a very unfortunate time and him not giving into demands to criticise Russia just irked the West further. IK did what was right for Pakistan and IK did what any self-respecting Pakistani would have done. Now the West doesn't have anything to blackmail IK with as they can do with other leaders they went in with this regime change plan. I certainly believe in the authenticity of the letter and IK. Respect is earned not bought. IK earned respect over the years from the public which is why people are able to believe his word on it same can't be said of other.

Some things I believe in as well.
1. Had Trump retained power in last elections then this regime change wouldn't have come about. Well for starters had Trump retained power Russia might never have invaded Ukraine. People associate Trump with a lot of jokes but the guy was only interested in America's internal matters and didn't give a hoot on international policing.
2. The reason our opposition leaders are desperate for this no confidence motion to succeed is because they have a lot to loose. I have a strong feeling that on proven corrupt in Pakistan the West would have threatened to freeze their assets in their country and even sent them back to Pakistan hence the leaders just want this to succeed at any cost.

All I wish is well for IK. He will remain a political force for next election. I wish no harm is done to him whilst he is away from power. Please note not only PDM is filled with corrupt leaders they also have criminal records within their ranks. So make no mistake this can go really bad for IK should PDM get in power.
 
We as Pakistani public don't deserve this. If the public has elected a person into power and have given him the votes then we as public deserve to have that person as our leader.

This entire process is like a circus. Give me one example from any democratic country where the party that holds the highest number of seats i.e. 155 whilst the party at second position holds just 84 seats (a massive difference). Yet the party with highest votes is unable to form the Government. This is making a mockery of the process in shameless manner. To put icing on it we as public when we voted for Imran then the public isn't even consulted on replacement of Imran.

In any case this is another lesson for Pakistani public in its long list of lessons to learn from. It is us the public that gave seats to parties like PMLN and PPP. The seed of corrupt leaders have been planted by us public and now its bearing never ending fruits for us.

On the authenticity of the so called letter any person with an iota of knowledge of Pakistan would understand that Imran's stance on many matters have made West uncomfortable. His visit to Russia just came at a very unfortunate time and him not giving into demands to criticise Russia just irked the West further. IK did what was right for Pakistan and IK did what any self-respecting Pakistani would have done. Now the West doesn't have anything to blackmail IK with as they can do with other leaders they went in with this regime change plan. I certainly believe in the authenticity of the letter and IK. Respect is earned not bought. IK earned respect over the years from the public which is why people are able to believe his word on it same can't be said of other.

Some things I believe in as well.
1. Had Trump retained power in last elections then this regime change wouldn't have come about. Well for starters had Trump retained power Russia might never have invaded Ukraine. People associate Trump with a lot of jokes but the guy was only interested in America's internal matters and didn't give a hoot on international policing.
2. The reason our opposition leaders are desperate for this no confidence motion to succeed is because they have a lot to loose. I have a strong feeling that on proven corrupt in Pakistan the West would have threatened to freeze their assets in their country and even sent them back to Pakistan hence the leaders just want this to succeed at any cost.

All I wish is well for IK. He will remain a political force for next election. I wish no harm is done to him whilst he is away from power. Please note not only PDM is filled with corrupt leaders they also have criminal records within their ranks. So make no mistake this can go really bad for IK should PDM get in power.
 
1. First the entire opposition said that letter is fake.

2. Then the entire opposition said to IK to reveal the letter.

3. Then Islamabad High Court says that IK cannot reveal the letter. It’s an order.

Lol.
 
They are not interfering. The fact that army is being told to stay neutral it only furthers the democratic process.

Whats anti democracy is army getting involved and picking a side. But i understand you being a pti fan would have hard time understanding this as id army sides with pti that is ok in your books

And in your books its ok for Army to take side of PMLN or PPP like they did in the past :)
 
The letter conspiracy is true.... The way Imran handled it is what makes him look ridiculous.

The letter wasnt even issued to islamabad. The letter was sent to Rawalpindi. Imran only got to know about all this when he met putin and they probably intercepted communication between POTUS and COAS and presented the letter to Imran.

Now there are no foreign forces involved technically. Because the army has been asked to stay neutral and let the politicians do their thing. Thus, while the letter is true, how ever the vote of no confidence doesnt have any foreign backing.

The letter has only made sure that the army does not unfairly get involve in these democratic proceedings.

Yes, if its proven that foreign money is being given to remove someone or some trade off is being done than that is wrong.

But if the letter only warns the army to stay neutral than that is no harm. The army should stay neutral in democratic proceedings

VONC came after one day of letter. In letter, VONC was mentioned several times. In letter, its clearly stated that if IK survivs the VONC there will be serious repercussions, and if PDM wins, then every thing will be forgiven e.t.c
 
The contents of a "letter" that Prime Minister Imran Khan brandished at the PTI's power show on March 27 and which purportedly contains "evidence" of a foreign conspiracy against his government were shared with some senior journalists on Wednesday.

Arshad Sharif, Kashif Abbasi and Imran Riaz Khan were among the journalists in front of whom the contents of the letter were read out.

Talking to ARY News, Sharif said: “Asad Umar shared some details. They showed the letter from a distance. It is very clearly evident [from the letter] that whatever is happening in Pakistan through the no-confidence motion was conveyed on March 7 and [whoever the letter was addressed to] was told that if the vote of no-confidence is successful, Pakistan's problems internationally will be reduced but if Prime Minister Imran Khan survives the no-confidence vote, arm-twisting of Pakistan will be done.

“Very clear threats have been given and the government discussed these in the federal cabinet meeting today.”

“My information is that when the details of this letter were being read out in the federal cabinet meeting, five to six ministers became tearful. PM has neither told the name of the country nor the officials. He confirmed that these things have been shared with the army chief and the DG ISI. He also said an in-camera session of parliament will be briefed by Shah Mahmood Qureshi about this. The parliament will also be taken into confidence.”

Imran Riaz Khan, while talking to Samaa News. corroborated Sharif's account of the briefing, saying: "Only the content was revealed as the copy of the letter cannot be given. They have also shown it in the cabinet meeting. It is present with the military leadership. Today, all the details were shared with the media through an official in different languages.

"What they shared with us is that this letter is a conversation between Pakistani officials and officials of another country. According to my understanding, that country is America but the government did not name the country. They did not tell the number of officials or the location of the meeting. They said that Europe and the US are not happy with Pakistan's stance on Russia and Ukraine."

Meanwhile, Kashif Abbasi, who also participated in the meeting, told ARY News that only the gist of the letter was shared with the media persons. According to him, it was clearly stated in the letter that the country concerned was "unhappy" with Pakistan's policies.

"The Russia tour was clearly mentioned and it was said that it (the visit) was the prime minister's individual decision," he said, adding that the letter stated that if the no-confidence vote succeeds, "we will forgive everything, otherwise, the days ahead will become difficult".

"The mention of the prime minister and the no-confidence motion was made more than once and regime change was talked about. We were given details and shown [the letter] from a distance but we were told it could not be shared because of the Official Secrets Act," he added.

Earlier in the day, Prime Minister Imran Khan announced that he would show the letter to senior journalists and the government's allies.

He made the revelation while addressing a ceremony for the launch of the e-passport facility in Islamabad.

The development came hours after it became apparent that the MQM-P had decided to side with the joint opposition in the no-trust motion against the prime minister, which would translate into the PTI government losing its majority in the National Assembly.

In the PTI’s public meeting in Islamabad on Sunday, the premier had pulled out a piece of paper from his pocket and waved it at the crowd, claiming it was evidence of an “international conspiracy” being hatched to topple his government.

“Foreign funding is being used to change the government. Money is coming from abroad and people inside the country are being used. Some of them are unaware they are being used and some are intentionally using this money against us,” he had alleged.

During today's ceremony, the prime minister touched upon the current political crisis in the country, stating that this was "nothing new" in a parliamentary democracy.

"People lose confidence in their party," he said, adding that a no-confidence motion was a "democratic" move.

"But this is a foreign imported conspiracy and it started when people from abroad started controlling Pakistan through telephone calls. They cannot tolerate a leadership that works in the people's interest."

Reiterating his criticism of America's 'war on terror', he said that Pakistan had paid a heavy price for its participation. He said that many were unaware of the exact scale of the suffering of those living in the country's tribal areas.

"We sacrificed our interests for those abroad but they never valued it," he said.

The premier said he would show the letter containing evidence of a foreign conspiracy against the government to senior journalists and allies.

"The document that I have, I will show it to senior journalists today. We want to protect the nation and can't divulge the details in public. People think this is a joke and I have decided to share it with top journalists."

He added that he would also call one member from each allied party to show them the "document and prove that it is real".

"People can take whatever decision they want to. But beware of the fact that, directly or indirectly, you may become a part of a huge international conspiracy," he said, adding that the document would provide proof of the same.

PM postpones address to nation
Separately, the prime minister postponed his address to the nation.

Earlier in the day, Interior Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed said the prime minister would address the nation in the evening.

Speaking to the media before a meeting of the federal cabinet, the minister said that an emergency meeting had been called. He asserted that PM Imran would "fight till the last ball".

"Voting on the no-confidence motion is on April 3 and the PM will address the nation in the evening," he said.

However, Senator Faisal Javed Khan later shared on Twitter that the address had been postponed.

Following the postponement of the address, DawnNewsTV quoted sources as saying that the army and intelligence chiefs met the premier at the Prime Minister's House earlier today.

Meanwhile, Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry said that PM Imran was a "player who would fight till the last ball".

"You will not get a resignation," he said.

'PM can only show letter to CJP'
In a joint press conference on Tuesday, Minister for Planning and Development Asad Umar and Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry said the prime minister had agreed to present the letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial.

“If someone has doubts, the prime minister says if necessary, and for the people’s satisfaction, he is ready to present the letter to the chief justice of the SC, as he enjoys a good reputation,” Umar said, adding that only three to four people, including him, had seen the letter.

“The letter has been shared with the top civil and military leadership and only two or three cabinet members,” he added.

The letter was written and dated prior to the day the opposition submitted its no-trust motion against the prime minister to the National Assembly. “It was mentioned in the letter that a no-confidence motion will be moved against the prime minister. I myself have read the letter many times,” the minister claimed.

Umar, who is also the PTI’s secretary general, alleged the principal character behind this plot against the government was Nawaz , who was facilitating the international establishment from London, while the senior leadership of the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) could also be knowingly involved in the conspiracy.

When asked why the government was not presenting the letter in parliament, he said: “Due to the sensitivity of the letter, it cannot be shared with the over 340 members of parliament, but just to satisfy the people, the prime minister has agreed to show it to the most reliable person with good reputation, the CJP,” he added.

Terming the letter a threat, the minister claimed it clearly said that if the no-confidence motion did not succeed, and PM Imran remained in office, it would have unfortunate repercussions.

Umar maintained that the letter focused on Pakistan’s foreign policy, which made it clear that it was linked to foreign elements. It also states the senior leadership of the PDM was in contact with those foreign elements, the minister alleged.

He said after these ‘realities’ were unearthed, except a few, almost all the MNAs, who were unknowingly becoming part of this “international plot”, would distance themselves from the motion.

DAWN
 
PK either stands up to bullying from the Americans or stands with Foreign agents who work with them. Kaptaan didn't back down, he did his job as patriot.
 
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court (IHC) Wednesday hoped Prime Minister Imran Khan will not make a "secretive" memo public that, according to the government, "threatens" Pakistan's sovereignty.

In a written order, IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah said the court is confident that as an elected prime minister, Imran Khan would not disclose any information or act in breach of section 5 of the Official Secrets Act, 1923, or violate the oath taken by him under the Constitution.

"Any decision taken by the Prime Minister has to be in consonance with his obligations under the Official Secrets Act, 1923 and in letter and spirit of the oath of the office," the written order read.

The court said it has "trust and confidence" that the premier would not reveal any information which may be prejudicial to the national interest and national integrity of Pakistan, nor that he would act in any manner that would have the effect of violating his oath.

The IHC CJ mentioned that if the court passes a restraining order, it would "unjustifiably reflect a lack of confidence in an elected prime minister."

Shortly before the order, PM Imran Khan, according to sources, had said that a Pakistani envoy posted in a foreign country wrote the memo that he flashed on March 27 in a rally and termed it "threatening".

The premier, while interacting with journalists, said the envoy had sent the letter to Pakistan after he met an official of a foreign country, according to sources.

PM Imran Khan said the memo was shared with the military leadership, according to sources, and mentioned that the tone used in the cable was "threatening".

The prime minister said the memo would be shared with parliamentarians during an in-camera session, but noted that the name of the country that "threatened" Pakistan could not be shared — as national security laws are applicable.

Minister for Planning, Development, and Special Initiatives Asad Umar, who attended the briefing, according to sources, told journalists that the memo mentions that if the no-confidence motion passes, everything will be forgiven for Pakistan.

Umar further said that the letter mentions that "in case of its failure, the problems for Pakistan will increase."

In his March 27 address to a PTI rally, the prime minister had revealed that "foreign elements" are involved in the attempts to topple his government and said, "some of our own people" are being used in this regard.

In a press conference Tuesday, Umar had said PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif joined hands with foreign powers and is involved in the "conspiracy" against PM Imran Khan.

The PML-N supremo is in London and he has met officials from the "intelligence agencies of other countries". The federal minister said the Pakistan Democratic Movement's (PDM) leadership is not "unaware" of the letter.

GEO
 
VONC came after one day of letter. In letter, VONC was mentioned several times. In letter, its clearly stated that if IK survivs the VONC there will be serious repercussions, and if PDM wins, then every thing will be forgiven e.t.c

So [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] how did they know the VOC was coming. You still believe that this is an organic project.
 
1. First the entire opposition said that letter is fake.

2. Then the entire opposition said to IK to reveal the letter.

3. Then Islamabad High Court says that IK cannot reveal the letter. It’s an order.

Lol.

The IHC the corrupt peoples favourite court. Minullah is the biggest ******* in PK.
 
Why losing majority in the house a foreign consipracy?

And in a democracy, isnt army supposed to neutral?
 
They are not interfering. The fact that army is being told to stay neutral it only furthers the democratic process.

Whats anti democracy is army getting involved and picking a side. But i understand you being a pti fan would have hard time understanding this as id army sides with pti that is ok in your books

So if the PK govt phoned the American Army in the Trump debacle, that wouldn't be seen as interference. Such a silly answer.
 
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad High Court (IHC) Wednesday hoped Prime Minister Imran Khan will not make a "secretive" memo public that, according to the government, "threatens" Pakistan's sovereignty.

In a written order, IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah said the court is confident that as an elected prime minister, Imran Khan would not disclose any information or act in breach of section 5 of the Official Secrets Act, 1923, or violate the oath taken by him under the Constitution.

"Any decision taken by the Prime Minister has to be in consonance with his obligations under the Official Secrets Act, 1923 and in letter and spirit of the oath of the office," the written order read.

The court said it has "trust and confidence" that the premier would not reveal any information which may be prejudicial to the national interest and national integrity of Pakistan, nor that he would act in any manner that would have the effect of violating his oath.

The IHC CJ mentioned that if the court passes a restraining order, it would "unjustifiably reflect a lack of confidence in an elected prime minister."

Shortly before the order, PM Imran Khan, according to sources, had said that a Pakistani envoy posted in a foreign country wrote the memo that he flashed on March 27 in a rally and termed it "threatening".

The premier, while interacting with journalists, said the envoy had sent the letter to Pakistan after he met an official of a foreign country, according to sources.

PM Imran Khan said the memo was shared with the military leadership, according to sources, and mentioned that the tone used in the cable was "threatening".

The prime minister said the memo would be shared with parliamentarians during an in-camera session, but noted that the name of the country that "threatened" Pakistan could not be shared — as national security laws are applicable.

Minister for Planning, Development, and Special Initiatives Asad Umar, who attended the briefing, according to sources, told journalists that the memo mentions that if the no-confidence motion passes, everything will be forgiven for Pakistan.

Umar further said that the letter mentions that "in case of its failure, the problems for Pakistan will increase."

In his March 27 address to a PTI rally, the prime minister had revealed that "foreign elements" are involved in the attempts to topple his government and said, "some of our own people" are being used in this regard.

In a press conference Tuesday, Umar had said PML-N supremo Nawaz Sharif joined hands with foreign powers and is involved in the "conspiracy" against PM Imran Khan.

The PML-N supremo is in London and he has met officials from the "intelligence agencies of other countries". The federal minister said the Pakistan Democratic Movement's (PDM) leadership is not "unaware" of the letter.

GEO

The IHC should be asking who wrote the letter and more importantly the SC should take Suo Motto notice of this ASAP.
 
1. First the entire opposition said that letter is fake.

2. Then the entire opposition said to IK to reveal the letter.

3. Then Islamabad High Court says that IK cannot reveal the letter. It’s an order.

Lol.

Does pakistan constitution not have anything like article 105 we have in India?

In India, anything revealed in the parliament is beyond the powers of the court, they cannot stop it, nor can punish anyone for revealing it
 
How can the army be neutral when a Foreign power is seeking regime change. How did they know a VOC was coming a day before it was announced.

Its only imran's claim that foreign power is involved. If some foreign power is involved, i am sure there are laws he can use to control that.

Army is not a means to settle political issues.
 
So [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] how did they know the VOC was coming. You still believe that this is an organic project.

Are you acting naive on purpose.

The vote of no confidence was somwthing ppp had proposed last year to pdm. But pdm disagreed to this which is why ppp left this. Than by the start of the year the vote of no confidence thing again started. Vonc was gonna happen either way, the letter came later before the motion was submitted.
 
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