The Never Give Up Attitude Of Imran Khan!

[Mian]

Yes you can disagree with his views and politics. You can criticize his way of talking. You can hate him and you can call him Taliban Khan or yahoodi agent. You can also attack his personal life but once again today with his never give up attitude he proved that nothing is impossible and there is always light at the end of a tunnel. After ruling over us for more thn 3 decades now the corrupt Sharif family is totally exposed because of his struggle.

His whole life is based on struggle and he always bounce back hard after early failures instead of giving up.

From a failure as a cricketer (was called perchi player and dropped after debut) to becoming the one of the greatest all rounder, bowler and captain in the history of cricket.

Building a cancer hospital to treat poor people for free when everyone was laughing at his dream of building a cancer hospital in a nation like Pakistan but he made it possible and now after 2 decades he is building 3rd cancer hospital and planning for 4th one while the donations increasing every year and every year more patients are being treated for free.

Entered politics and remained a laughing stock for years "taanga party" but he continued his struggle for 2 decades and made his party finally an alternative choice for people of Pakistan now he is the most popular political leader in Pakistan and he alone changed the whole political scene of Pakistan in last few years.

Started his campaign for the accountability of the most powerful political family of Pakistan and the 3 times PM Nawaz Sharif. Nobody was giving him a chance because in our history real accountability never happened but he kept fighting and he alone kept the Panama issue alive through roads, courts and media while others were sleeping and ignoring it including the nation. In last few years he made PPP the so called real opposition and the party of federation look irrelevant in political scene. And with only 30 MNA in National Assembly Imran is doing what many couldn't do or never tried to do in our political history and getting the results building the pressure.

Hats off to this man hats off to his Zid, Yaqeen, or Never give up attitude whatever you call it.

Thank for everything Khan!

 

[Slog]

He really is a superstar

Pakistan is blessed to have him

Whether you like it or not you cannot deny what he has achieved.

To bring a sitting ruler of the country to the stand and make him answer for his corruption was unimaginable even 5 years ago

He never gave up.

Regardless of the final SC verdict, this will be remembered for all times to come.

There's very few Pakistanis you can be proud of on a global scale but he is definitely one of them.

 

[Syed1]

My hero, my leader
Imran Khan, Imran Khan






Patwaris absent from PP as well.

 

[Slog]

Just imagine if PTI hadn't emerged in 2011-12.

PML-N and PPP would have been playing musical chairs in the game of loot-maar of Pakistan.

They are still corrupt and he may never come into power but atleast he keeps them in check somewhat

 

[WebGuru]

A few quotes of Imran from past:

But having set myself these goals, I had to work really hard to achieve them. : Imran Khan

Don't let fear of Failure overcome your Mind while taking decisions, always be positive and stay focused on your goals. : Imran Khan

Allah ne Insan ke Haath mein sirf Koshish di hai, Kamyaabi Woh deta hai : Imran Khan

I believed in myself. I never imagined myself as just an ordinary player. : Imran Khan

They should abandon fear of losing…When they step on the ground they need to make up their mind to win : Imran Khan

 

[Bewal Express]

Behind QA and Edhi, IK will go down as the 3rd most influential PK. Make no mistake he has flaws but he is a true patriot unlike thieves like the Sharifs and AZ.

 

[Mian]

Behind QA and Edhi, IK will go down as the 3rd most influential PK. Make no mistake he has flaws but he is a true patriot unlike thieves like the Sharifs and AZ.

And best of all he isn't greedy for money.

 

[super hitter]

I don't know how but this time he should've really owned his haters but the problem is

PYAAR THO UNDHA HOTHA HA

 

[Black Zero]

Polite reminder: he is called Mr. U-turn.

 

[shaz619]

Excellent post, POTW.

 

[shaz619]

Khan's never die attitude is admirable, totally respect that. He deserves a chance to lead, beyond me why people continue to support TTF's.

 

[super hitter]

Polite reminder: he is called Mr. U-turn.

what U turn?

can it be bigger than what Sharif did?

 

[Mian]

Polite reminder: he is called Mr. U-turn.

Feeling sorry for his haters

 

[moghul]

With this , he is even a bigger inspiration of me. Like everyone else, I will encounter some tough time in my professional life but, with keeping his example in mind, will give me strength. That's how the great people inspire ordinary people like me.

 

[King-Misbah]

Behind QA and Edhi, IK will go down as the 3rd most influential PK. Make no mistake he has flaws but he is a true patriot unlike thieves like the Sharifs and AZ.

I believe he is greater then Edhi saab, respect to Edhi.

Imran Khan made massive contributions in social work, cricket and politics. Second coming of Quid in my opinion.

 

[WebGuru]

With this , he is even a bigger inspiration of me. Like everyone else, I will encounter some tough time in my professional life but, with keeping his example in mind, will give me strength. That's how the great people inspire ordinary people like me.

But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!

 

[Black Zero]

what U turn?

can it be bigger than what Sharif did?

 

[Bewal Express]

Polite reminder: he is called Mr. U-turn.

Still bitter but live with it. It is painful for haters but the Kaptaan has brought the most powerful family in PK to its knees.

 

[WebGuru]

Still bitter but live with it. It is painful for haters but the Kaptaan has brought the most powerful family in PK to its knees.

Main inko rulaunga... (IK to Sharifs)

Besharam insan tumhaare baap ka pesa he jo log bhul jayenge (IK to Kh Asif)

 

[Bewal Express]

I believe he is greater then Edhi saab, respect to Edhi.

Imran Khan made massive contributions in social work, cricket and politics. Second coming of Quid in my opinion.

For me all 3 will be remembered as long as PK exists. NS and AZ are the equivalent of a boil on your backside; annoying and painful whilst its there but it does eventually turn to puss and get sqeezed out, leaving a scar but you are thankful its gone.

 

[Syed1]

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Sad day for Noon patwaris and PPP jiyalas.


May you continue to suffer through such misery again and again. Ameen.

 

[Syed1]

I believe he is greater then Edhi saab, respect to Edhi.

Imran Khan made massive contributions in social work, cricket and politics. Second coming of Quid in my opinion.

I will still rate Edhi shahab higher for now, just the other day I was reading how Edhi shahab begged on Lahore's Mall road to collect money for the cancer treatment of a UET student. If IK manages to become PM and sets Pakistan towards a path of development and elimination of corruption then I will rank him along side the Quaid.

 

[Mian]

Sad day for Noon patwaris and PPP jiyalas.


May you continue to suffer through such misery again and again. Ameen.

He himself sitting comfortably in a great democracy like Canada want PPP and PMLN types for rest of Pakistanis living in Pak.

 

[Syed1]

He himself sitting comfortably in a great democracy like Canada want PPP and PMLN types for rest of Pakistanis living in Pak.

Excellent point, If PPP and PML-N are so good for Pak why doesn't he leave Canada and go live in Pakistan?

 

[Enigma_]

He has played it well. Honestly he deserves a go as a leader of this country. At least someone finally stood up to the rotten underbelly that was the political sphere in Pakistan.

 

[Black Zero]

Sad day for Noon patwaris and PPP jiyalas.


May you continue to suffer through such misery again and again. Ameen.

Which group do I belong to (I hate pti, pmln and pppp with the core of my heart)?
(Why would pppp jiyala be sad today?)

 

[Bewal Express]

Which group do I belong to (I hate pti, pmln and pppp with the core of my heart)?
(Why would pppp jiyala be sad today?)

Except you spend your time defending NS and before that AZ. Is there any criminals you wont defend?

 

[super hitter]

Which group do I belong to (I hate pti, pmln and pppp with the core of my heart)?
(Why would pppp jiyala be sad today?)

Why do you exactly hate PTI? come to Peshawar and you'll see who Imran Khan the leader is....

BTW, I think you watch Geo News on daily basis

 

[Mian]

Why do you exactly hate PTI? come to Peshawar and you'll see who Imran Khan the leader is....

BTW, I think you watch Geo News on daily basis

He is an atheist + anti establishment and he believes Imran is Taliban Khan and is supported by establishment on other side Zardari and Nawaz are liberal and anti establishment.

 

[shaz619]

 

[Black Zero]

Except you spend your time defending NS and before that AZ. Is there any criminals you wont defend?

Maybe I hate establishment little more.

I was not defending NS, I was criticizing JIT. Two entirely different things.

 

[King-Misbah]

Which group do I belong to (I hate pti, pmln and pppp with the core of my heart)?
(Why would pppp jiyala be sad today?)

LoL, so you hate PMLN now too! I remember your love towards PPP before..its then converted to PMLN when they came into power. I guess the rats are jumping off the PMLN sinking ship now #Saying

 

[Bewal Express]

Maybe I hate establishment little more.

I was not defending NS, I was criticizing JIT. Two entirely different things.

It would be some sort of principled position had it not been for the fact that you have SUPPORTED the 2 criminals even before JIT. This rubbish about being anti establishment whilst supporting 2 of the biggest criminals in PK shows how much you care for PK.

 

[Major]

Sad day for Noon patwaris and PPP jiyalas.


May you continue to suffer through such misery again and again. Ameen.

What does ppp got anything to do with this?

 

[Syed1]

What does ppp got anything to do with this?

This decision will open for accountability of all... there is a reason why Zardari ran away from Pakistan a couple of days ago.

 

[Mian]

What does ppp got anything to do with this?

PPP was once the party of federation and now it is at a point where it's almost irrelevant in national politics and limited to sindh only. PPP did a blunder by remaining silent on Panama issue. Opposition political parties survive on issues you can't just be a friendly opposition hoping that next term 8s theirs

 

[proud_pakistani]

Imran is a big inspiration for all of us. Surprises me how there are so many in Pakistan who despise him. He has been running a battle for the last 2 decades non-stop. This report is a huge win for Imran. After continuous setbacks he has still been relentless and kept up the intensity. Have to salute Imran for these things. He has already done more for Pakistan without being a PM. Imagine what he can do as a PM.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

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[Eagle_Eye]

What does ppp got anything to do with this?

Because they are anti national ... commited treason in office. Their day of reckoning will also come..... just remember who made Hussain haqqani us ambassador

 

[Adil_94]

whatever u think of IK his drive determination is second to none

 

[yasir]

This decision will open for accountability of all... there is a reason why Zardari ran away from Pakistan a couple of days ago.

Are you sure there ever will be accountability of Army? - Those guys run the show, there is nobody who can survive in Pakistan (Judiciary, Imran Khan, Bhutto, Nawaz) without kneeing to Army. When that really change, I would begin to think reign is changing in Pakistan. Biggest Corruption is the rule of Army, it has been going on for 70 years, looks like people have lot more appetite for it. Imran Khan will not make any difference as long as Army runs the show...

 

[Syed1]

Are you sure there ever will be accountability of Army? - Those guys run the show, there is nobody who can survive in Pakistan (Judiciary, Imran Khan, Bhutto, Nawaz) without kneeing to Army. When that really change, I would begin to think reign is changing in Pakistan. Biggest Corruption is the rule of Army, it has been going on for 70 years, looks like people have lot more appetite for it. Imran Khan will not make any difference as long as Army runs the show...

If IK comes to power he will bring the army under the microscope too, but that is the same reason why I think they will not let IK win elections.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There was a point when I thought this guy has wasted his life trying to turn around a historically corrupt nation but it seems all his sacrifices will be worth it. Greatness is used too often but not enough in the case of Imran.

The Pakistani's who also support him , many of whom have gone against the traditions of their family also deserve a lot of credit.

 

[Pakpak]

He deserves countless thanks.

He has brought these cancers down and out despite not holding any office of significance.

 

[Badsha]

Yet people spew crap like "Imran Khan politician ki temperament hi nhi hai.


People have always called him a failure. A one seat party. Now look where it's going...

 

[Mian]

Yet people spew crap like "Imran Khan politician ki temperament hi nhi hai.


People have always called him a failure. A one seat party. Now look where it's going...

We as a nation think to be a politician you need to be corrupt. That's the criteria

 

[sjahmed23]

Only man alive in Pakistan who can govern from Karachi to Kashmir. He needs to run Pakistan for the next 10 years. Hopefully once he wins he can kick out all the lota's and bring about a true democratic change in Pakistan and empower institutions so family based politics and badshahat never returns.

 

[ShadabFakhar]

Excellent post.

A man who walks the talk. I never thought the day would come for Pakistan when corruption would be challenged in the courts, this man made it happen. I still believe democracy can only properly function when a populace is educated and informed enough to make a proper choice, that still isn't the case in Pakistan and he's going to be a long way from power unless something drastic happens over the coming days. At least he's created an environment and a precedent where top officials will think twice before they engage in corrupt practices. I just hope Zardari is next, but that guy is the Al Capone of corruption.

 

[Mian]

Only man alive in Pakistan who can govern from Karachi to Kashmir. He needs to run Pakistan for the next 10 years. Hopefully once he wins he can kick out all the lota's and bring about a true democratic change in Pakistan and empower institutions so family based politics and badshahat never returns.

Would love to see presidential direct election system here because the current system is a curse and dependent on electables so a poor or middle class man stand no chance while these corrupt electables select the PM.

 

[PakLFC]

I may never always agree with him but respect his incredible will power. Don't ever see him as our PM, do see hime ridding Pak of family politics and putting Nawaz in prison.

 

[Pakistanian]

I'm no longer a supporter of his but you can't not admire his stamina and determination to do what he believes in. I mean I got tired of his rallies and political campaigns but he has not given in despite being in his 60s and doing this for 20 years, his drive and dedication is really inspiring.

 

[Pakistanian]

I wish I was as stubborn as Imran Khan.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I believe he is greater then Edhi saab, respect to Edhi.

Imran Khan made massive contributions in social work, cricket and politics. Second coming of Quid in my opinion.

I love IK as much as anyone in the world. I went to the sit-in in Islamabad at least 50 times in the 100 something days but trust me, he's not even a percent of the man Edhi was.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

If IK comes to power he will bring the army under the microscope too, but that is the same reason why I think they will not let IK win elections.

Without accountability and improvement in our systems Pakistan will be a failed state in a in a decade or so. Most in the army have realized it and have started changing it. Many hundreds of armed forces personal have been jailed removed for corruption or sympathizing with terrorists under army courts but this is kept under wraps to protect the image of the armed forces.
But the major thing that is needed is that armed forces do not take over government again as when that happens corrupt people from the army get into power positions. 7-8 years of democratic rule has already started paying dividends I hope Imran Khan/PTI gets into power and is able to strengthen institutions and passes laws that stop people in power to influence institutions.

 

[Vegitto1]

Edhi never challenged the status quo though. If Imran stuck to his charity work only, everyone (including the chor families of Bhutto and Sharifs) would be donating handsomely to his charity. Land would have been given for free much quicker then it is now and the entire media would sign praises about him.

He went one step further, he decided to fight for the poor on all fronts and that meant he became a traget, his family broke apart he faced ridicule in media - yet he kept going forward with his dream, his vision.

Sometimes, I think what makes people like Jinnah, Martin Luther King, Imran Khan, etc different from the rest. And I guess its their will and sheer strength to carry on, with 100% conviction, to achieve what they dream, despite the entire World telling them that it is impossible to do so.

As Allama Iqbal said - Khudi ko ker buland itna ke har taqdeer se phele, Khuda banday se yeh khud poochay, bata teri raza kiya hai - This rings true for the likes of Imran Khan

 

[corneredtiger85292]

This man is my idol and a living legend !

History will remember his greatness long after we are all gone, Pakistan is blessed to have him.

Long live Imran Khan

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

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I love IK as much as anyone in the world. I went to the sit-in in Islamabad at least 50 times in the 100 something days but trust me, he's not even a percent of the man Edhi was.

Edhi never challenged the status quo though. If Imran stuck to his charity work only, everyone (including the chor families of Bhutto and Sharifs) would be donating handsomely to his charity. Land would have been given for free much quicker then it is now and the entire media would sign praises about him.

He went one step further, he decided to fight for the poor on all fronts and that meant he became a traget, his family broke apart he faced ridicule in media - yet he kept going forward with his dream, his vision.

Sometimes, I think what makes people like Jinnah, Martin Luther King, Imran Khan, etc different from the rest. And I guess its their will and sheer strength to carry on, with 100% conviction, to achieve what they dream, despite the entire World telling them that it is impossible to do so.

As Allama Iqbal said - Khudi ko ker buland itna ke har taqdeer se phele, Khuda banday se yeh khud poochay, bata teri raza kiya hai - This rings true for the likes of Imran Khan

i am not someone who believes that charity can build a nation. if it did, we'd be a nation already. these two men shouldn't be compared.

a person like edhi shouldn't really be needed in a functional society. that's the reason why you don't find any in developed countries. the state does that for you. the state takes care of the needy, the old, the dead; the state has ambulances, trained staff, picks babies from dumpsters.

someone may misunderstand me, so i will be clear again. edhi is a legend and a great man. this isn't a doubt on his greatness.

this is just a clarity that no state should deteriorate to such an extent that a person has to clean up the mess and that too as a volunteer. that is also important when pakistan itself aims to be a welfare state with free education, free medical care for all it's citizens.


imran has won the battle no matter what happens from here. he stood in front of the status quo, and beat it. some will now come here and use fancy words like establishment helped imran do this, do that, blah blah - they are just consoling their own selves. all the universe apparently has conspired against the corrupt. right.

i don't care if imran becomes the prime minister, i don't care if his party wins or loses, i don't care what happens in the future but the precedent for accountability has been set. each court case is a reference and justice prevails in the form of these references, now no prime minister will be able to loot without the fear of accountability because the reference is now available.

even as his own questioned his sit-ins on panama, imran has been vindicated.

this in its own is true success and one that dwarfs every politician next to imran. he is flawed, but he truly is as close to an unstoppable force as possible. glad he is one of our own. wouldn't want it any other way.

 

[yasir]

If IK comes to power he will bring the army under the microscope too, but that is the same reason why I think they will not let IK win elections.

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

 

[Mian]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Oh wait so panama leaks involving 140 countries politicians celebrities and leaders is an army saazish.

 

[King-Misbah]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Have you ever thought about becoming a fiction writer? You have got immense creativity!

 

[yasir]

Oh wait so panama leaks involving 140 countries politicians celebrities and leaders is an army saazish.

Tell me why Murashif case was not prosecuted that strongly? - How many Generals we have ever prosecuted in last 70 years?

Many top tier Politician has been killed or went to Jail... Entire Bhutto family (Zulfakir, Shawanaz, Murtaza, Banazir) were murdered. Nawaz was thrown out the first time, when he showed courage against Army.

Justice truly means something if it is equal for all. The most powerful institution is immune from audit. We have musical chair for the rest, this does not take us any where, we both are here, lets see how far Pakistan goes with this model...

 

[Syed1]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Deep state sazish






Yeah Pakistan Army is so strong they hacked into Panama accounts and released all the info of all the money launderers in the world just to get rid of the "most popular leader in Pakistan"

 

[Enigma_]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Love myself a good conspiracy theorist.

 

[Badsha]

I'm no longer a supporter of his but you can't not admire his stamina and determination to do what he believes in. I mean I got tired of his rallies and political campaigns but he has not given in despite being in his 60s and doing this for 20 years, his drive and dedication is really inspiring.

I was a bit tired of those rallies too but in hindsight it's proved to be better for the nation in the long run.

 

[Badsha]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Classic desi style conspiracy.

 

[Bewal Express]

Love myself a good conspiracy theorist.

I enjoyed the comic style but at least it wasnt Calibri.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

So he will in power because of Army but will he be using the power to sell of Pakistani public in debt to his cronies like Nawaz and Zardari? I don't think so I disagree with him on many issues but one thing I am sure of he will not be selling Pakistan piece by piece. Btw you could be right or wrong about Imran Khan being under control of Army no need to cry about it before it has happened.

 

[Savak]

Am surprised Imran Khan never took up Entreprenuership. Am pretty sure he had all the attributes needed to establish a Pakistani Fortunes 500 corporation.

 

[super hitter]

Zardari will still win the next elections. Don't know whats wrong in their but the right person never sits on the throne.

 

[WebGuru]

Imran Khan watching the unfolding of JIT report and PMLN's reaction...

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

Its not a matter of leadership alone, Army as an institution is strong, they will not yield power to anyone. They don't want strong political institutions or strong judiciary, why? - That means they loose their privileges. Its like red necks in America, who don't want strong and vibrant minority communities, because that means their culture is compromised, they yield power to others, they have been doing that for 200 years...

A strong leadership from Army can make more difference, nobody has ever take fight to Army in Pakistan. Public has never rose against them either. Have we ever audited Army Generals? - Why there was no JIT against Musharraf? - Why he was let go? - Because this opens a pandora box of entire institution, Army don't have any stomach to take stones at them.

In US there is rarely, serious investigation against CIA, FBI and Army forces. Most of there operations are against foreign Govts, but from time and again they also do interfere in election like the last one, Comey changed the election with his selective probe at Hilary, there was a bigger investigation going on against Trump, which he never mention at the time. It was not the first time, CIA cooked up Iraq war, out of thin air, nobody seriously challenged that, they can get away with anything...

I am not saying that prosecuting Nawaz is not healthy. It is happening now, not because judiciary is strong, but because Army wants him out, that is not right. He is still the most popular leader in the country, PPP was finished when Banzir was murdered, that was huge loss another leader like Zaradari (Shujat or PMLQ type) is not good news for Pakistani political institutions. In PTI, Imran Khan is still as one man show as Nawaz is in PML, if he dies right now, PTI is finished as well...

Army has made way for Imran, they will remind him very quickly, he will be playing in hands of Army(he has been playing at their hands for some time) much like Benzir and Nawaz. They will throw him out as well, when they feels like. And then you start over with another one man show leader, where are the institutions? - You are not going to build political institutions with this model. These current events shows once again, how strong is Army, country is at the mercy of them. I am not too excited about it :

Just one question for you - Do you believe Nawaz sharif is corrupt ?

 

[yasir]

So he will in power because of Army but will he be using the power to sell of Pakistani public in debt to his cronies like Nawaz and Zardari? I don't think so I disagree with him on many issues but one thing I am sure of he will not be selling Pakistan piece by piece. Btw you could be right or wrong about Imran Khan being under control of Army no need to cry about it before it has happened.

I am not sure if Nawaz was all about selling country. Politicians will be corrupt, you are not going to find people with zero corruption. Nawaz wanted to have trade with India, better control on foreign policy, but he couldn't. Army did not let him have better relations with India back in 1999, they threw him to SA, when he tried to do that. That would have been monumental, if we could have strong relationship with India.


Can Imran Khan control Foreign Policy, Finance and Defense ministries better than Nawaz? - Not a chance, if he try to demand Army to yield these ministries to him, his fate will be same of Bhutto and Nawaz. There is a reason US does not talk to Politician, rather talk directly to Generals, because they know who is the boss, who control the key decision making power.

Fault on Nawaz part (on political front) is that he did not helped building strong political institutions. Imran is kind of doing the same what Benazir and Nawaz did, helping Army to destabilize democracy, at the end weaken institutions does not help any Politician. Its very easy for Army to manipulate Politician. Army does lot more corruption, its institutional corruption which public is so naive to understand, how many times any Politician have been able to sack a Army General?

If we have been dealing with Corruption at top level, I would have been more than happy and love to see country going in right direction. Nawaz faith is same as that of Zaradari. Five years from now, people will be asking for the head of Imran Khan as well. Its more of the same, Army is still calling all the shots...

In last two decades Pakistan's biggest problem is extremism and law and order, that has nothing to do with any politician. It has everything to do with Army. This was Army's baby and they nurture it in last 3 decades. Best part is Army don't think there is anything wrong with their policies, who cares about prosperity of the masses, that's not their issue. Army is not answerable to anybody. They don't participate in election(they are not answerable to public), supreme court cannot question them, Govt has no power to do anything to institution of Army, Army is only technically under govt, practically its other way around. We all rely upon Army doing greater good on their own, that is fundamentally flawed strategy, and is not working for 70 years.

 

[yasir]

Just one question for you - Do you believe Nawaz sharif is corrupt ?

Yes he is, but he is nothing compare to Pakistan Army, that is the 800 pound gorilla, which nobody wants to talk about or rather dare to talk about!!

 

[Pakpak]

Yes he is, but he is nothing compare to Pakistan Army, that is the 800 pound gorilla, which nobody wants to talk about or rather dare to talk about!!

Despite the Pakistani Army pulling strings it didn't mean our country had to end up in the dumps it is in. The Army did not stop Nawaz or Zaradri from putting in Billions of Rupees into Health Care and Education, money announced every year in our budget. Nor did they ask them to pocket it and launder those billions. Those billions could easily have been invested in our nation instead of Swiss and Panama accounts. So using the Army is a very lazy excuse. Yes they are a big problem but our country being reliant on IMF handouts isn't solely their fault.

Even if Imran becomes the PM with the Army refusing to cede any power to him, it would still mean that as long as he puts the billions of rupees into our country, not his pockets like Nawaz and Zardari, then Pakistan would improve massively. And right now with the miserable, almost bankrupt state our nation is in I'd take this in a heartbeat. Provide our nation with electricity and improve our education and health care then we can worry about the establishment.

 

[Tommo]

Without the Pakistani army- your plight would be beyond your wildest imagination. Nawaz sharif (inc family), Zardari (inc family), MQM (all of it) are the worst thing to have ever happened to Pakistan. Break free from their shackles... Try giving IK a chance!
Just picture a Pakistan where health/education are taken very seriously, all that money in Swiss bank accounts invested in you and towards strengthening the army further; the heights your nation would achieve!

 

[ExpressPacer]

noonis have the worst social media team despite all the money that they throw in. this meme is just another example of that. terrible photoshop skills. eyesore.







i am not someone who believes that charity can build a nation. if it did, we'd be a nation already. these two men shouldn't be compared.

a person like edhi shouldn't really be needed in a functional society. that's the reason why you don't find any in developed countries. the state does that for you. the state takes care of the needy, the old, the dead; the state has ambulances, trained staff, picks babies from dumpsters.

someone may misunderstand me, so i will be clear again. edhi is a legend and a great man. this isn't a doubt on his greatness.

this is just a clarity that no state should deteriorate to such an extent that a person has to clean up the mess and that too as a volunteer. that is also important when pakistan itself aims to be a welfare state with free education, free medical care for all it's citizens.


imran has won the battle no matter what happens from here. he stood in front of the status quo, and beat it. some will now come here and use fancy words like establishment helped imran do this, do that, blah blah - they are just consoling their own selves. all the universe apparently has conspired against the corrupt. right.

i don't care if imran becomes the prime minister, i don't care if his party wins or loses, i don't care what happens in the future but the precedent for accountability has been set. each court case is a reference and justice prevails in the form of these references, now no prime minister will be able to loot without the fear of accountability because the reference is now available.

even as his own questioned his sit-ins on panama, imran has been vindicated.

this in its own is true success and one that dwarfs every politician next to imran. he is flawed, but he truly is as close to an unstoppable force as possible. glad he is one of our own. wouldn't want it any other way.

Don't see why we need to compare the two man.. don't want to enter this debate, sorry. I admire and respect both guys immensely but Edhi was a prophetic person. He's guaranteed himself everlasting peace with his selflessness. I seriously doubt we'll see another man like him again.

 

[Couch Cricketer]

I am not sure if Nawaz was all about selling country. Politicians will be corrupt, you are not going to find people with zero corruption. Nawaz wanted to have trade with India, better control on foreign policy, but he couldn't. Army did not let him have better relations with India back in 1999, they threw him to SA, when he tried to do that. That would have been monumental, if we could have strong relationship with India.


Can Imran Khan control Foreign Policy, Finance and Defense ministries better than Nawaz? - Not a chance, if he try to demand Army to yield these ministries to him, his fate will be same of Bhutto and Nawaz. There is a reason US does not talk to Politician, rather talk directly to Generals, because they know who is the boss, who control the key decision making power.

Fault on Nawaz part (on political front) is that he did not helped building strong political institutions. Imran is kind of doing the same what Benazir and Nawaz did, helping Army to destabilize democracy, at the end weaken institutions does not help any Politician. Its very easy for Army to manipulate Politician. Army does lot more corruption, its institutional corruption which public is so naive to understand, how many times any Politician have been able to sack a Army General?

If we have been dealing with Corruption at top level, I would have been more than happy and love to see country going in right direction. Nawaz faith is same as that of Zaradari. Five years from now, people will be asking for the head of Imran Khan as well. Its more of the same, Army is still calling all the shots...

In last two decades Pakistan's biggest problem is extremism and law and order, that has nothing to do with any politician. It has everything to do with Army. This was Army's baby and they nurture it in last 3 decades. Best part is Army don't think there is anything wrong with their policies, who cares about prosperity of the masses, that's not their issue. Army is not answerable to anybody. They don't participate in election(they are not answerable to public), supreme court cannot question them, Govt has no power to do anything to institution of Army, Army is only technically under govt, practically its other way around. We all rely upon Army doing greater good on their own, that is fundamentally flawed strategy, and is not working for 70 years.

Nawaz was all about selling the country all the expensive projects he builds on loans he steals 20-25%'from those. Power companies using solar are trying to bidding the cheapest possible rates for projects. In Pakistan Nawaz guarantees high rates to his cronies like the qatari for coal power projects. Lol about Nawaz running any of the ministries that you mention well comparibily his governments have been worse in all regards
About the delegation of power that you think IK us not doing sorry look at how KP and is institutions are doing compared to how Punjab and institutions are being run. The cancer hospitals he has built are being run and managed by others yes he is the one collecting the donations but he is not running them means he knows how to delegate.

 

[Black Zero]

Joke fail.... nooners are so incompetent, they can't even put together a funny meme!!

That was not meant to be joke.

Anyway, enjoy:

 

[Waseem]

Yes he is, but he is nothing compare to Pakistan Army, that is the 800 pound gorilla, which nobody wants to talk about or rather dare to talk about!!

Subsequent question, do we ELECT politicians to improve our country or fauj?

Over 95% people on this forum at least support democracy and we have had 9 years of continuous democracy and yes it takes much longer for democracy to mature but for how long are we going to use the FAUJ excuse to hide sins of people we ELECT to represent ourselves.
No doubt there are corrupt elements in Army (just like anywhere in the world) due to weak institutions and no one supports such corrupt elements but WHAT HAS DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT HAS DONE IN 9 YEARS TO STRNGTHEN ANY INSTITUTION?? NAME JUST ONE PLEASE.

 

[Mian]

That was not meant to be joke.]

Enjoy!