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This is the new buzz word and phrase that we will be hearing a lot in the coming months.

Let's see what is the Pakistan Way under the new coaching regime and what it entails.
 
There is no ‘Pakistan way’

It’s the friends with benefits way for captain Babar Azam
 
Rana said:
There is no ‘Pakistan way’

It’s the friends with benefits way for captain Babar Azam
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I prefer this way, been very successful I’d say compare to some of the past legends way
 
Saj said:
This is the new buzz word and phrase that we will be hearing a lot in the coming months.

Let's see what is the Pakistan Way under the new coaching regime and what it entails.
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This is what Mickey said to the PCB:

Team Director Mickey Arthur: “If a team wins without a culture, without a brand or without a style, it may work for a short period but will eventually fall. If a team is losing with a culture, a brand and its own style, then it is moving towards the right direction.

“So how do we achieve The Pakistan Way? We achieve this by winning while having our own culture, our own brand of cricket and our own style. We will not be satisfied with wins without that culture in the team. Pakistan as a nation is proud of its identity, culture and style. I love Pakistan and Pakistan cricket; I want to leave behind a legacy as a director where the rest of the world says we want to play The Pakistan Way.

To achieve the on-field success, the team management will emphasis on the importance of building a culture where a player’s success is enjoyed by everyone and creating an inclusive environment where anyone can speak up at anytime and everyone is treated equally eventually resulting in achieving collective goals as a nation and team.
 
Rana said:
There is no ‘Pakistan way’

It’s the friends with benefits way for captain Babar Azam
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Sorry you missed the people who run PCB in this (rather conveniently)

They dictate the Pakistan way.
 
Good. We can already see the difference in this current Pakistan team. No drama and a unique style of play that is bringing success.

Hopefully, the pacers are working on their bowling speeds though. Nothing says 'The Pakistan way' than fast bowlers.
 
I like Mickey and whatever little success we have had recently was kick-started by him back in 2018-2019, but he needs to stop saying such things and just focus on getting this team playing to the best of its capability.
 
People might make fun, but atleast Mickey actually has a plan and strategy. I'd have him over a clueless Saqlain.
 
Mickey managed to identify and bring through a couple of young players last time.

Let's give him some time to see what happens.
 
Basically where we are now in Tests, the only way is up!
 
We need more Azhar Ali type batsmen to play test cricket “The Pakistan way” which would make the 2 hardcore fans left in the stadium leave too and the shaadi chairs will finally be all empty.

:moyo
 
Sadly Pakistan way should not be taken in a positive manner, misfields extras, drop catches bizarre selections batting collapses more negativity than positivity is pakistan way :andy
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur "Our Test cricket has been negative & I want to take that away from the players" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/t9Nzhid3WA">https://t.co/t9Nzhid3WA</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1657709778057961474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2023</a></blockquote>
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MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickey Arthur "Our Test cricket has been negative & I want to take that away from the players" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://t.co/t9Nzhid3WA">https://t.co/t9Nzhid3WA</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@SajSadiqCricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/SajSadiqCricket/status/1657709778057961474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2023</a></blockquote>
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For that, you will have to get rid of Abdullah Shafique as an opener
 
Saj said:
This is the new buzz word and phrase that we will be hearing a lot in the coming months.

Let's see what is the Pakistan Way under the new coaching regime and what it entails.
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Well, let’s hope that Mickey’s “Pakistan way” is better than Mickey’s “Derbyshire way”….
He’s in his second season there and they are one from bottom of Div 2 (for those who don’t follow English cricket, that, in essence, means 17th out of 18 first class counties)
 
gibsyhesperis said:
Well, let’s hope that Mickey’s “Pakistan way” is better than Mickey’s “Derbyshire way”….
He’s in his second season there and they are one from bottom of Div 2 (for those who don’t follow English cricket, that, in essence, means 17th out of 18 first class counties)
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Sometimes, a mechanic is only as good as his tools! I am not defending Mickey here, but he did make Pak a pretty decent LOI team the last time around.
 
Rana said:
For that, you will have to get rid of Abdullah Shafique as an opener
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Abdullah shafiques first class strike rate is significantly higher than his test strike rate, hes obviously been told to bat more defensively than he naturally does.
 
Mickey has the chance to make his second tenure a memorable one with a WTC title!

Big challenge but this could define his legacy forever.
 
From latest PCB release on the NCA camp :


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Having players from across the rungs together will also help in inculcating The Pakistan Way in the upcoming players, so they are aware of the expectations of the national side as they continue their journey. This will also help the youngsters to benefit from the experience of the senior side’s players.
 
MenInG said:
From latest PCB release on the NCA camp :


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Having players from across the rungs together will also help in inculcating The Pakistan Way in the upcoming players, so they are aware of the expectations of the national side as they continue their journey. This will also help the youngsters to benefit from the experience of the senior side’s players.
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PCB are dumb!
 
Hope Haider Ali's current innings for Derbyshire is NOT the Pakistan way!
 
Mickey Arthur speaking to the press:

"There's no doubt about that. They're good enough to do that. But we're playing a brand that we call the Pakistan way. We're playing a brand that's very particular to Pakistan and suits our team dynamic.

"That's a brand that we're going to hopefully win the World Cup with."
 
Pakistan way is to surprise everyone with their performance, they can even surprise themselves.
 
Mickey Arthur while presenting the Impact Player for the Netherlands game:

"Saud Shakeel played a good innings as he came under pressure. He played good shots and showed positive intent"

"That's the kind of cricket we have to play, that's our 'The Pakistan Way',"
 
Presenting an award after a game against Netherlands is cringe.

Need to focus on Lanka game, we have issues which are fixable.
 
Impact player award is 'interesting'

Not seen this before.
 
If Mickey is trying to emulate England with baz ball he needs to remember baz ball didn’t just emerge out of thin air. You can’t just say the words and conjure up a style of playing. England had a process over many years with Trevor Baylis of trying to play attacking cricket , first in limited overs and then in tests. They had the bench strength and a team for all seasons. Their stalwarts like buttler stokes root moin have been playing for many many years while the new guys like Livingston and malan drop in seamlessly. So good has been their development that they can leave out Jason Roy and Alex Hales and still have a world beating team. Didn’t go well against new Zealand of course but they are allowed a slip up.

Over to Pakistan, we can just about field a decent 11. One injury and this team is going to look hopeless. The Pakistan way can only be as good as the bench strength and the experience. If they keep struggling like they did against Netherlands then the Pakistan way is gonna look pretty silly.
 
Tg e future is T 20 cricket and in it our future is very very bright. That’s because the Pakistan way shines through best in that format.

Who cares about dying ODIs? We need to keep our test team separate and get them more games and hopefully with more cricket at home on better pitches our test performances will rise. The only way is up.

I have to say Mickey does understand the best (of all foreign coaches) and I like how he seems invested in our brand and style of cricket.
 
Saj said:
Impact player award is 'interesting'

Not seen this before.
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Definitely prefer recognising a player's impact on a match as opposed to cutting cakes for milestones.
 
MenInG said:
Mickey Arthur while presenting the Impact Player for the Netherlands game:

"Saud Shakeel played a good innings as he came under pressure. He played good shots and showed positive intent"

"That's the kind of cricket we have to play, that's our 'The Pakistan Way',"
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So mickey acknowledges that the way saud plays is how cricket should be played but still forwards imam is a top 5 odi bat? Contradictory statements.
 
The Pakistan way proving to be a successful strategy. The beauty of the chase today was that the boys played how we always play. Getting set then taking the game away...beautiful
 
mominsaigol said:
So mickey acknowledges that the way saud plays is how cricket should be played but still forwards imam is a top 5 odi bat? Contradictory statements.
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Mickey tends to back his boys in public. Wouldn't read too much into such statements.

Anyway I hope you now see why many Pakistan fans including myself have a soft corner for Mickey. It's not because I think he's a flawless tactician or holds an incredible W/L record. However as a developer of young talent, Mickey beats most of our previous coaches, local and foreign, hands down.

He gave Babar his Test debut and backed him despite his struggles between 2016-18. You mentioned his demotion to #6 but that was to protect him. Trust me, our trigger happy Pakistani coaches would've booted Babar well before. Babar himself publicly credited Mickey for his support - that was before Mickey's comeback so it wasn't a sucking up attempt. Fakhar, Shadab, Imam and Shaheen also emerged under him during a period where we were crying out for fresh blood in white-ball cricket. When Mickey was first appointed, we were ranked 9th and 7th in ODI and T20 rankings.

IMO he's a big reason why Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel have been pushed out of their comfort zones and upped their SRs recently in stark contrast to their painfully slow batting last year.

The two biggest obstacles to this brand of cricket Mickey outlined are the lack of dynamic, skilled batsmen in Pakistan and Babar's captaincy.

Babar captained superbly in the SL Test series but you see how he reverts to type under pressure. We shouldn't have conceded 344 today. If this "Pakistan Way" is to work, we need a likeminded captain and for our domestic cricketers to understand the new criteria for selection.
 
Markhor said:
Mickey tends to back his boys in public. Wouldn't read too much into such statements.

Anyway I hope you now see why many Pakistan fans including myself have a soft corner for Mickey. It's not because I think he's a flawless tactician or holds an incredible W/L record. However as a developer of young talent, Mickey beats most of our previous coaches, local and foreign, hands down.

He gave Babar his Test debut and backed him despite his struggles between 2016-18. You mentioned his demotion to #6 but that was to protect him. Trust me, our trigger happy Pakistani coaches would've booted Babar well before. Babar himself publicly credited Mickey for his support - that was before Mickey's comeback so it wasn't a sucking up attempt. Fakhar, Shadab, Imam and Shaheen also emerged under him during a period where we were crying out for fresh blood in white-ball cricket. When Mickey was first appointed, we were ranked 9th and 7th in ODI and T20 rankings.

IMO he's a big reason why Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel have been pushed out of their comfort zones and upped their SRs recently in stark contrast to their painfully slow batting last year.

The two biggest obstacles to this brand of cricket Mickey outlined are the lack of dynamic, skilled batsmen in Pakistan and Babar's captaincy.

Babar captained superbly in the SL Test series but you see how he reverts to type under pressure. We shouldn't have conceded 344 today. If this "Pakistan Way" is to work, we need a likeminded captain and for our domestic cricketers to understand the new criteria for selection.
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That is fair, I agree with mixkey BTW, The Pakistan way is the way saud/ Abdullah/ Rizwan bat.

It's just funny how he put imam in that statement. He and Babar are the only ones who don't bat the Pakistan way. Babar has the talent to bat that way, but because he's too focused on his milestones he slows down for his milestone and won't do anything until he gets his 100, then minor acceleration before he's out.

Imam on the other hand lacks the talent to do so.

Saud, Abdullah, Rizzu, Fakhar(yes ik he's out of form atm), Chacha, These boys are fine for modern standards.
 
mominsaigol said:
That is fair, I agree with mixkey BTW, The Pakistan way is the way saud/ Abdullah/ Rizwan bat.
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Abdullah Shafiq Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.47/40.00 (one ODI to be fair)
Post-Mickey - 61.29/91.38

Saud Shakeel Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.66/66.33
Post-Mickey - 57.95/122.72

Won't include Rizwan in this as he kinda bats his own way regardless of coaches.

Obviously that's a small sample size of the two SL Tests and a handful of ODIs. Regardless of results hopefully they'll try maintaining this intent throughout the World Cup and in Australia.
 
Markhor said:
Abdullah Shafiq Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.47/40.00 (one ODI to be fair)
Post-Mickey - 61.29/91.38

Saud Shakeel Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.66/66.33
Post-Mickey - 57.95/122.72

Won't include Rizwan in this as he kinda bats his own way regardless of coaches.

Obviously that's a small sample size of the two SL Tests and a handful of ODIs. Regardless of results hopefully they'll try maintaining this intent throughout the World Cup and in Australia.
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That's fair, I agree with you, but imam with mickey, pre mickey is the same. So that statement is still worrying if mickey isn't planning to get rid of him for saim ayub.

Its clear saim and Abdullah need to be our opening pair groomed for 2027 and 2031 world cups. Their very very young and have such a high ceiling.
 
Markhor said:
Abdullah Shafiq Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.47/40.00 (one ODI to be fair)
Post-Mickey - 61.29/91.38

Saud Shakeel Test and ODI SR:

Pre-Mickey - 41.66/66.33
Post-Mickey - 57.95/122.72

Won't include Rizwan in this as he kinda bats his own way regardless of coaches.

Obviously that's a small sample size of the two SL Tests and a handful of ODIs. Regardless of results hopefully they'll try maintaining this intent throughout the World Cup and in Australia.
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That’s not just a reliable sample size to make predictions on.
I believe this catch all phrase “Pakistan way” can prove to be confusing for new batters like Saud and Abdullah. Specially Saud as he has already mounted the runs and shouldn’t be tinkered with. They just needed consistent chances, which will hopefully come now. I’ll give credit to Arthur once both have established themselves in ODIs.
 
Markhor said:
Mickey tends to back his boys in public. Wouldn't read too much into such statements.

Anyway I hope you now see why many Pakistan fans including myself have a soft corner for Mickey. It's not because I think he's a flawless tactician or holds an incredible W/L record. However as a developer of young talent, Mickey beats most of our previous coaches, local and foreign, hands down.

He gave Babar his Test debut and backed him despite his struggles between 2016-18. You mentioned his demotion to #6 but that was to protect him. Trust me, our trigger happy Pakistani coaches would've booted Babar well before. Babar himself publicly credited Mickey for his support - that was before Mickey's comeback so it wasn't a sucking up attempt. Fakhar, Shadab, Imam and Shaheen also emerged under him during a period where we were crying out for fresh blood in white-ball cricket. When Mickey was first appointed, we were ranked 9th and 7th in ODI and T20 rankings.

IMO he's a big reason why Abdullah Shafique and Saud Shakeel have been pushed out of their comfort zones and upped their SRs recently in stark contrast to their painfully slow batting last year.

The two biggest obstacles to this brand of cricket Mickey outlined are the lack of dynamic, skilled batsmen in Pakistan and Babar's captaincy.

Babar captained superbly in the SL Test series but you see how he reverts to type under pressure. We shouldn't have conceded 344 today. If this "Pakistan Way" is to work, we need a likeminded captain and for our domestic cricketers to understand the new criteria for selection.
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Apparently Abdullah Shafique won over the team management given the amount of hard work and effort he was putting in the nets and he was hungry for the chance.
 
Same words as predecessors but will anything change?

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Mohammad Hafeez about the Australian Tour:

“There is always something to gain when you go in any assignment with a positive mindset. As a team, we are excited to take on the challenge. We are going with the mindset to win — we are not thinking about anything else currently. Each player in the squad is looking to enhance their own skills and develop wherever they are lagging, which is really important. We are not looking to counter or challenge a single opposing player, rather we will be looking to dominate as a team. We will play modern-day cricket. Our team goal is to ensure that we win the series as well as maximize results from our available resources. Modern day cricket demands impactful performances. You have to remain ahead of the game and play an aggressive game, which we have to adopt. I believe we need to step out of our comfort zone and show intent towards playing modern-day cricket.”​
 
BouncerGuy said:
Same words as predecessors but will anything change?

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Mohammad Hafeez about the Australian Tour:

“There is always something to gain when you go in any assignment with a positive mindset. As a team, we are excited to take on the challenge. We are going with the mindset to win — we are not thinking about anything else currently. Each player in the squad is looking to enhance their own skills and develop wherever they are lagging, which is really important. We are not looking to counter or challenge a single opposing player, rather we will be looking to dominate as a team. We will play modern-day cricket. Our team goal is to ensure that we win the series as well as maximize results from our available resources. Modern day cricket demands impactful performances. You have to remain ahead of the game and play an aggressive game, which we have to adopt. I believe we need to step out of our comfort zone and show intent towards playing modern-day cricket.”​
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All talk as usual aggressive this aggressive that, when you front up with parchi ul haq & hasan has been Ali aggression goes down the fast !! Il be happy if Pak can win 1 session per test match.
 
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Well it didn't really happen did it.

The idea was good, but the execution didn't occur which isn't really a surprise to many.
 
Wonder if players are confused about this in Tests.

Maybe Prof Hafeez can explain what is it that this team is expected to do.

Do they play without a care in the world and call it aggressive cricket?

Or do they dig themselves in for days to score 15 runs.
 
Abdullah was 22(50) when Imam got out and when Shan came to the middle.

Abdullah looked like he was playing in his shell when batting with Imam: Abdullah was going at a sr of 44 and allowed the Aus bowlers to bowl at him.

Then Shan came in, who tried to take the Aus bowlers on and perhaps that also rubbed off on Shafique too.

He added 40 (59) when he batted with Shan at a sr of 68. So Perhaps Shan's intent is contagious.

Their partnership was 90 (118), and at that point, the Aus bowlers looked flat and the field was spread back.

Unfortunately, Pakistan wasn’t able to press on, but when they played with intent for that one hour, the Aussies were on the backfoot. And perhaps the best way to temporarily pacify the world’s best bowling attack.

I'd much rather them play like this and try. Rather than tuk tuk stuff.
 
Pakistan Way 1960s-2010: YOLO / Do or Die

Pakistan Way 2011- present day: slow and painful
 
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