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The race between Pakistan, Bangladesh and West Indies for 2019 World Cup qualification

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Bangladesh
1- Ireland tri series with kiwis
2-Pakistan tour to Bangladesh
3- Champions trophy
4-Australia tour to bangla

Pakistan
1- Pakistan tour to Westindies
2-Champions trophy
3- Pakistan tour to bangla

Westindies
1-England tour to Westindies
2-Pkistan tour to Westindies
3-India tour to Westindies
4-Westindies tour to England
 
Should play a couple of games against Sri Lanka in England before the CT starts. Would help us acclimatize to the English conditions (again).
 
Should play a couple of games against Sri Lanka in England before the CT starts. Would help us acclimatize to the English conditions (again).

We play series against srilanka in October while tour to NZ in jan 2018
 
Bangladesh have a series against Sri Lanka in SL next. Winning that series will give them a lot of ranking points.
 
Bangladesh
1- Ireland tri series with kiwis
2-Pakistan tour to Bangladesh
3- Champions trophy
4-Australia tour to bangla

Pakistan
1- Pakistan tour to Westindies
2-Champions trophy
3- Pakistan tour to bangla

Westindies
1-England tour to Westindies
2-Pkistan tour to Westindies
3-India tour to Westindies
4-Westindies tour to England


You missed one tour of Bangladesh. Bangladesh tour to Sri Lanka before Pak tour to Bangladesh.
 
No team is out of the woods yet. Bangladesh needs to work hard, only one ODI series at home in the next 6 months. Need to beat SL in a couple of matches and ensure no losses to Ireland.
 
No team is out of the woods yet. Bangladesh needs to work hard, only one ODI series at home in the next 6 months. Need to beat SL in a couple of matches and ensure no losses to Ireland.

How one series, there are two one against srilanka and other against pak
 
WI are also hosting AFG for five ODIs in June. A couple of losses and they will be losing major points.
 
Best would be to hold a tri-series between the three and the team that doesn't qualify for the final of the series gets the cut
 
but the series is in SL

3 odis against pak ( we win 100% because pak batting is weak)
3 odis in sri ( we win 110% because they are finished articles)
Tri series ( toss up between us and NZ)
Champions trophy ( 1 2 victories are enough)
 
With it looking like the West Indies losing to England 0-3 in their series, Bangladesh in Sri Lanka for 3 ODIs, and Pakistan traveling to West Indies for 3 ODIs, this is Pakistan's chance to leapfrog above these two teams and build themselves a cushion for any losses in the Champions Trophy.
 
With it looking like the West Indies losing to England 0-3 in their series, Bangladesh in Sri Lanka for 3 ODIs, and Pakistan traveling to West Indies for 3 ODIs, this is Pakistan's chance to leapfrog above these two teams and build themselves a cushion for any losses in the Champions Trophy.

We live in eternal hope or live eternally in hope!
 
Good series for Pakistan - W Indies 0 England 3
 
With it looking like the West Indies losing to England 0-3 in their series, Bangladesh in Sri Lanka for 3 ODIs, and Pakistan traveling to West Indies for 3 ODIs, this is Pakistan's chance to leapfrog above these two teams and build themselves a cushion for any losses in the Champions Trophy.

That is what we should hope for.


If we go deep into the Champion's Trophy I fully expect us to go above SL as well.
 
West Indies will decline in LO but will be a competitive test team especially at home.
 
That is what we should hope for.


If we go deep into the Champion's Trophy I fully expect us to go above SL as well.
Lol!
You are living in a different universe if you think we will go deep in CT.
 
Best would be to hold a tri-series between the three and the team that doesn't qualify for the final of the series gets the cut

Hold it in Pakistan and force them to come if they want CT participation.

If we beat WI - we will hold all the aces.
 
the only way Pakistan can drop in the rankings is to lose to WI, which isn't likely.
 
Brilliant.

Next step for us now is to sweep WI and we not only are confirmed for the WC, but we can also replace SL in the top 6 very soon iA.

I'm sure we will be top 4 in all 3 formats within a couple of years. 100%.

The golden era has already begun in T20Is and ODIs, and after the WI Test series when Misbah is finally booted, Naya Pakistan will officially be in progress.
 
A lot of time and lots of matches to be played. Any team can get out. Even Sri Lanka also has a little chance to get out of the race :D
 
Both tours of Pak to West Indies and Bangladesh will decide the final team and Pak has an edge over both teams as they will be playing against Australia and England.

But we can not eliminate Indian tour to West Indies as they can do anything to eliminate us.
 
A lot of time and lots of matches to be played. Any team can get out. Even Sri Lanka also has a little chance to get out of the race :D

Near impossible. Sri Lanka has to play associates and lose to all of them and they aren't doing that
 
Both tours of Pak to West Indies and Bangladesh will decide the final team and Pak has an edge over both teams as they will be playing against Australia and England.

But we can not eliminate Indian tour to West Indies as they can do anything to eliminate us.

We can't blame any other team if we don't qualify for WC. (which I'm 99.99% sure we will)

We have been a shameful LOI side for many years now. Personally, I haven't watched a Pak ODI game since ages, and will probably stop following test cricket when YK/Misbah bid their adieu.

In all cases, I see a 1st round exit from WC, unless some major changes happen.
 
Both tours of Pak to West Indies and Bangladesh will decide the final team and Pak has an edge over both teams as they will be playing against Australia and England.

But we can not eliminate Indian tour to West Indies as they can do anything to eliminate us.

some of you guys are reaching next.level of paranoia.
 
That is what we should hope for.


If we go deep into the Champion's Trophy I fully expect us to go above SL as well.

lol if we win a match in the trophy i'll be happy. If we win two i'll be over the moon. Anything more will be a bonus..
 
We can't blame any other team if we don't qualify for WC. (which I'm 99.99% sure we will)

We have been a shameful LOI side for many years now. Personally, I haven't watched a Pak ODI game since ages, and will probably stop following test cricket when YK/Misbah bid their adieu.

In all cases, I see a 1st round exit from WC, unless some major changes happen.

I am not in any doubt that Pakistan will qualify directly with out playing qualifying round.
 
Brilliant.

Next step for us now is to sweep WI and we not only are confirmed for the WC, but we can also replace SL in the top 6 very soon iA.

I'm sure we will be top 4 in all 3 formats within a couple of years. 100%.

The golden era has already begun in T20Is and ODIs, and after the WI Test series when Misbah is finally booted, Naya Pakistan will officially be in progress.

lol

I share your optimism in the sense that I can think the team can get back to respectability, but any notion of a golden era where torpedoed with Sharjeel being a fool. Without him our teams looks so much worse, and there appears to be no other similar replcaement apart from Shazaib who also appears to be under a cloud.

now we have to deal with Kamran and Selfie opening again
 
Beat WI and we're in, period. They aren't going to be beating India or England and we are not going to be winning more than a couple of matches in CT plus 1 more in the tour of Bangladesh.

Shame, Sharjeel, if you had been around we could have been able to make a run for 6. Instead you had to be a cheater when you didn't need to.
 
I did not question your ability, but you are brushing aside SL as if they are nobodies. BD's track record outside of home isn't stellar either.

I was just asking about a possibility.I was not brushing sl which you trying to make.
 
I was just asking about a possibility.I was not brushing sl which you trying to make.

before the srilanka odi series these are ranking

srilanka 98 ban 91 pak 89

if ban wins 3-0 ban will join srilanka on 96 points 7th in the ranking

if ban wins 2-1 ban points will be 93 points while srilanka will have 97 points

if srilanka win 3-0 ban 87 points will drop to 8 pakistan with 89 points will move to 7th

if srilanka wins 2-1 ban will be on the 7th in the table with 89 points while srilanka will be 6th with 99 points

pakistan on 8th with 87 points
 
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What will be the ranking point if Bangladesh win 3-0 against SL????

Tough, they are very good at home. Stressed Aussies till 5th match.

I think, all 3 Asian sides in bottom half are relatively safe; because of WI's 6-0 loss in last 6 ODI.
 
It's a tough competition between these three sides. CT games are against India, South Africa, Sri Lanka -- all of which we are underdogs for, except Sri Lanka perhaps. I don't think we will rise really high in the rankings

The biggest decider will be the Pakistan vs Bangladesh series, as according to the above information, it will be held in Bangladesh. Last time we were there we got absolutely hammered so this will probably decide our fate (as well as Bangladesh's).

Can someone confirm if there is a Pak v Bang series in Bangladesh before the cutoff?
 
before the srilanka odi series these are ranking

srilanka 98 ban 91 pak 89

if ban wins 3-0 ban will join srilanka on 96 points 7th in the ranking

if ban wins 2-1 ban points will be 93 points while srilanka will have 97 points

if srilanka win 3-0 ban 87 points will drop to 8 pakistan with 89 points will move to 7th

if srilanka wins 2-1 ban will be on the 7th in the table with 89 points while srilanka will be 6th with 99 points

pakistan on 8th with 87 points


if srl win 2-1 why pak drop two points and go from 89 to 87
 
lol

I share your optimism in the sense that I can think the team can get back to respectability, but any notion of a golden era where torpedoed with Sharjeel being a fool. Without him our teams looks so much worse, and there appears to be no other similar replcaement apart from Shazaib who also appears to be under a cloud.

now we have to deal with Kamran and Selfie opening again

Don't worry baby, because here he comes, the one and only, you betchaaa.... FAKHAR ZAMAAAAN! :danny
 
PAK loses point probably due to annual adjustment in May. That golden period of 2012-13 is relegated one more year.
 
If Pakistan win 3-0 vs West Indies and Sri Lanka win 3-0 vs Bangladesh, standings will be as follows:

Pakistan 92
Bangladesh 88
West Indies 80
 
West Indies are definitely not going to qualify by the looks of it. Unless bangladesh loses to Ireland
 
Won't there be qualification process for teams that dont qualify automatically? Pakistan should be pretty safe if thats the case and they do lose to the Windies.
 
Best would be to hold a tri-series between the three and the team that doesn't qualify for the final of the series gets the cut

If only the ICC was this proactive. There should also be a three match series between the winner of the World Cup and the winner of the Champions Trophy, to determine the undisputed best ODI team of the world.
 
Under Sarfraz we'll be winning more games like we used to and we're definitely going to climb up to 6 easily. I just don't see Sarfraz losing to BD at all, like I'm anticipating him going there and walking away with a stump after a series sweep. It's just Azhar lowered our expectations as fans. I can then see Sarfraz threaten to break into 5th place but that's going to be difficult because the top 5 teams play world-class attacking brand of cricket.
 
Pakistan needs to beat WI at least once and we should be good.

Honestly that win at the MCG was massive when it comes to this ''race
 
Where's the outrage from the moral brigade Misbah, Afridi, Hafeez, Akmals, Wahab and maliks ? These guys have led us to this abysmal state but there's zero accountability from these rubbish TTFs. Forget about the world cup. The same flop players will be selected irrespective of the outcome.
 
Pakistan and the West Indies have a long history of cricket and it will be a sad day for cricket if either one of them don't qualify for the world cup.

Imagine a soccer world cup tournament without Brazil
 
If WI plays a 5 game series against Afghans, that would be the decider. 1 loss and they will lose 4/5 raking points. That would be very difficult to overcome. Everything else, head to head with India, Pak matters very little if they lose 2.
 
Pakistan and the West Indies have a long history of cricket and it will be a sad day for cricket if either one of them don't qualify for the world cup.

Imagine a soccer world cup tournament without Brazil
Both will qualify. One may have to qualify through the qualifying rounds. But both will be in the tournament for sure.
 
Reducing WC to 10 teams is a disastrous decision. Can't imagine WC without any of Pakistan, West Indies, Bangladesh & Afghanistan

ICC should keep WC at 14 teams, especially after 2011 & 2015 WCs were massive commercial successes with the 14 team format. Why change something when it is working fine

Have top 10 teams in rankings qualify directly, and next 4 from the qualifiers
 
Pakistan and the West Indies have a long history of cricket and it will be a sad day for cricket if either one of them don't qualify for the world cup.

Imagine a soccer world cup tournament without Brazil

Agreed but maybe this is the wake up call WI board needs to treat stars with respect and vlaue them

On the other hand, if Bangla make it to like a QF, great for their cricket we both have been there and done it and are not gonna win in England anyways so IDK
 
Pakistan will win the WI series 3-0. Sri lanka and Bangal will be close but I think Sri Lanka has the capability to defeat Bangalis.
 
If Pakistan beats West Indies, standings will be:

6. Sri Lanka (98)
7. Pakistan (92)
8. Bangladesh (92)

9. West Indies (80)
 
If Pakistan beats West Indies, standings will be:

6. Sri Lanka (98)
7. Pakistan (92)
8. Bangladesh (92)

9. West Indies (80)

We will be above the Champions! Should shut them up for the next 2 years atleast considering their upcoming tours.
 
We'll defo go to 6th in the rankings, BD cannot beat this Pak side at all. It's gonna be a two horse race between WI and BD.
 
would had been helpful if OP told us the cut off date
 
We'll defo go to 6th in the rankings, BD cannot beat this Pak side at all. It's gonna be a two horse race between WI and BD.

I think our batting lineup is a lot better than Pakistan's. Our ODI bowling attack, when in form, is probably better as well. Fielding would the one area where Pakistan might have the advantage.
 
I think our batting lineup is a lot better than Pakistan's. Our ODI bowling attack, when in form, is probably better as well. Fielding would the one area where Pakistan might have the advantage.

To be honest with even though we have a bad batting lineup, a lot of our players such as Hafeez, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz, Shehzad won't really sweat against BD bowlers. And saying BD's bowling attack being better is far-fetched, ours is a lot more disciplined with Sarfraz as captain so I don't think we can lose against BD. I would say your fielding is somewhat better though.
 
To be honest with even though we have a bad batting lineup, a lot of our players such as Hafeez, Babar, Malik, Sarfraz, Shehzad won't really sweat against BD bowlers. And saying BD's bowling attack being better is far-fetched, ours is a lot more disciplined with Sarfraz as captain so I don't think we can lose against BD. I would say your fielding is somewhat better though.

Captains have no control over a bowler's discipline. At best he can yell at a bowler.
 
I think our batting lineup is a lot better than Pakistan's. Our ODI bowling attack, when in form, is probably better as well. Fielding would the one area where Pakistan might have the advantage.

Your fielding is way better. From what I saw last time.

I still am iffy about Pakistan winning ODI series, I think we would but wouldn't be surprised if we didn't. With Tests and ODIs I am more confident.
 
Captains have no control over a bowler's discipline. At best he can yell at a bowler.

Yes they do. The captain's decisions and mood rub off on the entire team. I've seen the Indian cricketers lose heart sometimes when Kohli was captaining given how reactive he is whereas Dhoni is more calm and relaxed.
 
Beat the West Indies in the odis and I think we will automatically qualify for the 2019 World Cup
 
Pakistan and West Indies aim to strengthen claims for automatic qualification for 2019 WC

QUALIFICATION FOR ICC CRICKET WORLD CUP 2019

The West Indies and Pakistan will aim to consolidate their positions on the MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings in their bid to qualify directly for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 when they will feature in a three-match ODI series starting in Guyana on Friday, 7 April.

The West Indies, the 1975 and 1979 world champions, are presently sitting in ninth position on 84 points, five points behind eighth-ranked 1992 winners Pakistan. Bangladesh, which recently drew its three-match series with Sri Lanka, is seventh on 92 points.

The West Indies leads Pakistan 15-13 on a head-to-head at home and has a chance to move ahead of the visiting side. But to make it happen, it will have to win all three matches. If it is able to achieve this, then it will join the green shirts on 87 points and will be ranked eighth as it will be ahead by a fraction of a point.

In contrast, if Pakistan, which has won 11 of 19 matches against the West Indies in the West Indies this decade, wins all the three matches, then it will join Bangladesh on 92 points and will be ranked ahead of its Asian rival by a fraction of a point.

The series is set up for a fascinating contest as crucial ranking points are up for grabs that can go a long way in helping them to qualify automatically for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019. England and the seven other top teams on 30 September 2017 will qualify directly for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 with the remaining four teams getting a second chance through a 10-team ICC Cricket World Cup Qualifying tournament in 2018.

This will also be the final series before the annual update is carried out on 1 May to ensure the table continues to reflect teams’ recent form with older results being discarded. This, in turn, means when the ODI team rankings are overhauled on 1 May, the table will reflect all matches from 1 May 2014 with matches played from 1 May 2016 to carry 100 per cent weighting.

The ODI team rankings, unlike the Test rankings, are updated after each match. The ICC ODI predictor function is available here.

Meanwhile, in the MRF Tyres ICC Player Rankings for ODI Batsmen, Pakistan’s Babar Azam will start as the highest-ranked batsman from either side in ninth position. Mohammad Hafeez is the next highest-ranked batsman in 26th position and Sarfraz Ahmed (39th). The West Indies’ highest-ranked batsman is skipper Jason Holder in 89th position.

South Africa captain AB de Villiers is the number-one ranked batsman and he is followed by Australia’s David Warner and Virat Kohli of India.

Jason Holder (15th) leads the bowlers’ pack from either side, while Hafeez (37th) and Imad Wasim (47th) will also be aiming to improve their rankings.

In the all-rounders’ category, which is headed by Bangladesh’s Shakib Al Hasan, Hafeez (third) and Holder (ninth) feature prominently.

Sri Lanka v Bangladesh

Sri Lanka and Bangladesh players have made impressive gains in the latest player rankings, which were updated following the conclusion of their series.

In the batting table, Tamim Iqbal has achieved a career-high ranking on 19th after rising four places, Shakib has moved up five places to join Hafeez in 26th spot and Kusal Mendis has vaulted 26 places to claim a career-best 33rd position.

In the bowlers’ list, Suranga Lakmal of Sri Lanka has achieved a career-high ranking on 23rd after jumping five places and Nuwan Kulasekara is now just outside the top 50 in 51st position after rising three places.

Bangladesh’s Taskin Ahmed, who took a hat-trick in the first ODI, is his side’s biggest mover. He has rocketed 13 places to a career-best 61st place.

MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings (as on 5 April, after Sri Lanka-Bangladesh series and before West Indies-Pakistan series)

Rank Team Points
1. South Africa 119
2. Australia 118
3. New Zealand 113
4. India 112
5. England 108
6. Sri Lanka 98 (-)
7. Bangladesh 92 (+1)
8. Pakistan 89
9. West Indies 84
10. Afghanistan 52
11. Zimbabwe 48
12. Ireland 42
 
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