The Rise and Fall of Fernando Torres

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Whats happened to him, he looks a shadow of the player he once was?

Lacking in confidence and his body language is awful at the moment.

Where's it going wrong?
 
It is quite bizarre how badly his form has dipped. It is clear he is a confidence player. Also don't think Chelsea's system suits him, he has been at his best in the Premier League when playing as a lone striker, supported by an attacking midfielder (ala the Torres/Gerrard combination which worked so effectively at Liverpool).
 
There was an interesting article about him written by Gary Lineker in this week's NOTW. Lineker feels that Torres's poor form is all to do with confidence and nothing else. He is not taking the risks of Chicarito and hence not getting the returns.

As much as it is cliched - he is a goal away from getting it back providing that he is not the centre of a battle between Ancelotti and Abramhovich.
 
He was quite cocky about his move to Chelsea, "I will score against Liverpool, maybe it's my destiny" or something along those lines and he has fallen flat on his face.

Big money moves, big expectations. He is desperate to score at any cost atm.
 
He is struggling to find the net but he is still finding himself in a lot of promising situations. I was sure he was gonna score against us last Wednesday, just some great saves by VDS.
 
I am still worried about him. If he decides to score, I'm hoping that it is not tomorrow at the OT.
 
He still hasn't scored his first. Hope he scores tomorrow. :p
 
Wish Arsenal had the money to sign torres as i think he would be more suited to the gunners then chelsea.

Hes still a class player and goals will come!
 
Torres is quality, that doesnt change overnight BUT his confidence is shot to pieces - he was not quite right at the World Cup and it has been like that ever since really, now the pressure has been cranked up with this big money move to Chelsea

To get the best out of Torres Chelsea will need to change their system somewhat BUT that might mean having to sell Drogba - as it is Ancelotti is trying to juggle all the players and it isnt quite working, needs to make some bold decisions

Having said that Torres has had some great chances and he is getting into some good positions BUT luck just isnt with him at the moment
 
Well Torres scored on the weekend....


...Migeul Torres that is. :D
 
Good article by the tactics guru Jonathan Wilson about Torres' woes. It's all about the formation he says. Torres does best in a lone striker role, not in 4-4-2s.

http://gu.com/p/2zcgk
 
BREAKING NEWS: David Blaine's 40 day world record for doing nothing in a box has been broken by Fernando Torres.
 
BREAKING NEWS: David Blaine's 40 day world record for doing nothing in a box has been broken by Fernando Torres.

Haha got this on a text like 10 times from different people.
 
Well he's a quality player and I'm sure his goal rout well end soon. And I am pretty sure he will prove to be a great buy for Chelsea once he get's his confidence/form back
 
Spanish World Cup-winning striker Fernando Torres has announced he is to retire from football.

Torres, 35, played at Atletico Madrid, Liverpool and Chelsea in his 18-year career and is currently at Sagan Tosu in Japan's J1 League.

In 110 games for Spain, he scored the winner in Euro 2008 and was on target in their Euro 2012 final win.

"After 18 exciting years, the time has come to put an end to my football career," he said on social media.

Torres said he will hold a news conference in Tokyo on Sunday to "explain all the details".

His career started with Atletico, before a £20m move to Liverpool in 2007, where he scored 81 goals in 142 games.

In 2011, he was signed by Chelsea for a then British record transfer fee of £50m.


Torres scores 'cracker' for Spain at 2006 World Cup
Although he failed to replicate his goalscoring form at Stamford Bridge, he was part of the Blues' Champions League-winning team in 2012.

He also won the FA Cup and scored in their 2-1 win against Benfica in the Europa League final in 2013.

After 45 goals in 172 games at Chelsea and a brief four-month loan spell at AC Milan, he returned to Atletico in late 2014.

He finished on the losing side as Atletico lost the 2016 Champions League final to Real Madrid, but won a second Europa League in 2018 - his final appearance before moving to Japan.

Torres, who is Spain's third highest goalscorer with 38, played in six major tournaments including their 2010 World Cup triumph.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48715978
 
There was a moment in time when he was arguably the best out and out striker in the world. A much accomplished career still even if the last 8 years of it were spent playing as shadow of his former self.
 
Leaving Liverpool was the biggest mistake he made. Was never the same player after he left the current European Champions. Happy retirement.
 
Leaving Liverpool was the biggest mistake he made. Was never the same player after he left the current European Champions. Happy retirement.

It is a big misconception that Torres’ career went south because he left Liverpool for Chelsea. His career was actually ruined by the knee injury that he suffered prior to the 2010 World Cup. He lost a couple of yards and was unable to adjust his game.

He was poor at the World Cup, poor for Liverpool in the first half of the 2010-11 season, and his poor form for Chelsea was simply a continuation of the football that he had played over the last 6 months or so.

Liverpool actually sold him at the perfect time and replaced him with Suarez.
 
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Remaining at Liverpool would have benefited his career. There is nothing to suggest that Liverpool sold him at the right time. I feel Klopp would have sold him anyway coz he wasn't his type of player.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]

Remaining at Liverpool would have benefited his career. There is nothing to suggest that Liverpool sold him at the right time. I feel Klopp would have sold him anyway coz he wasn't his type of player.

Liverpool sold him at the right time because he was in decline and a shadow of his former self. Had he stayed, they would not have been able to recoup £50 million for him later.
 
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:salute
 
Liverpool sold him at the right time because he was in decline and a shadow of his former self. Had he stayed, they would not have been able to recoup £50 million for him later.

In hindsight we can say anything. If's and when's is not evidence.
 
This guy was so good in his prime. He could do everything and his pace was scary. Injuries really killed his career.
 
This guy was so good in his prime. He could do everything and his pace was scary. Injuries really killed his career.

Those who only offer pace struggle for success when injuries hit them. Michael Owen and Daniel Sturridge were the same too. They never regained their old form after losing their pace due to injuries.
 
In hindsight we can say anything. If's and when's is not evidence.

What hindsight and what ifs and buts? What do you disagree with?

Do you think had he stayed at Liverpool, he would have started banging goals like it was 2007, or would Liverpool have been able to fool a club into paying £50 million for him in 2013/2014, or whenever they decided to sell him?
 
Liverpool legend, as a kid I loved watching him play for the club - one of the best strikers in his time and the best in his peak. Feels very nostalgic reading this but there were mostly only good memories with Torres at LFC, wish he could have won a PL or CL with the league but it wasn't to be. Great player.
 
Those who only offer pace struggle for success when injuries hit them. Michael Owen and Daniel Sturridge were the same too. They never regained their old form after losing their pace due to injuries.

He didn't just rely on pace . He had excellent technical quality and could hold players off. But those injuries didn't help him physically, once he went on a run of no goals and losing pace his confidence went and he never recovered.
 
What hindsight and what ifs and buts? What do you disagree with?

Do you think had he stayed at Liverpool, he would have started banging goals like it was 2007, or would Liverpool have been able to fool a club into paying £50 million for him in 2013/2014, or whenever they decided to sell him?

That Torres was finished when he left Liverpool. I think he just wasn't suitable to Chelsea's style of play otherwise Liverpool would not have tried so hard to keep him at the time. Liverpool wanted to keep him that much is certain. Although with the signing of Suarez Liverpool got the much better deal overall.
 
He didn't just rely on pace . He had excellent technical quality and could hold players off. But those injuries didn't help him physically, once he went on a run of no goals and losing pace his confidence went and he never recovered.

Pace was his major quality. Without that he was gonna struggle just like others who depend on pace have done. His confidence was lost due to the pace no longer frightening opposition defenders.
 
Pace was his major quality. Without that he was gonna struggle just like others who depend on pace have done. His confidence was lost due to the pace no longer frightening opposition defenders.

That's partially it. Also when he went on a long goal drought, that dented his confidence further. He lost belief in himself.
 
Fernando Torres: Former Liverpool and Chelsea striker retires after final match

Spanish World Cup-winning striker Fernando Torres has played his final professional match before retirement.

The former Atletico Madrid, Liverpool and Chelsea forward, 35, finished his career in Japan with Sagan Tosu.

They lost his final game 6-1 to a Vissel Kobe side featuring former team-mates Andres Iniesta and David Villa.

Iniesta wrote Torres an open letter, in which he said "it's been a wonderful journey, it has taken us to every corner of the world".

Torres made 110 appearances for Spain and won the World Cup in 2010, as well as the European Championships in 2008 and 2012, scoring in both finals.

Torres announced the date of his retirement in June.

"To say goodbye to football next to my dear friend Iniesta is something I could never imagine," Torres said at the time.

"Also my friend David Villa, with who I share probably the best moments in Spanish football history.

"I tried to find an iconic moment to play my final game and I think that is perfect timing."

Iniesta and Torres have been friends since they played together for Spain's youth teams, with Torres writing on a shirt for Iniesta that someday they would "win the World Cup together".

In a letter published in El Mundo, Iniesta said it was "beautifully strange" that life "brought us all the way to Japan to say goodbye".

"Football brought us together more than 20 years ago, when we were children. Well, you will always be El Nino. And it will never separate us," added the former Barcelona midfielder.

"We began away from spotlights and cameras until we came to share thousands of experiences before winning a World Cup for our country.

"When we meet in Spain, I'll show you that shirt, that treasure that nobody else discovered. Although, it is true, there is no greater treasure than your friendship, Fernando."

Torres started his career with Atletico, before a £20m move to Liverpool in 2007, where he scored 81 goals in 142 games.

In 2011, he was signed by Chelsea for a then British record transfer fee of £50m.

Although he failed to replicate his goalscoring form at Stamford Bridge, he was part of the Blues' Champions League-winning team in 2012.

He also won the FA Cup and scored in their 2-1 win against Benfica in the Europa League final in 2013.

After 45 goals in 172 games at Chelsea and a brief four-month loan spell at AC Milan, he returned to Atletico in late 2014.

He finished on the losing side as Atletico lost the 2016 Champions League final to Real Madrid, but won a second Europa League in 2018 - his final appearance before moving to Japan.

Torres, who is Spain's third-highest goalscorer with 38, played in six major tournaments including the 2010 World Cup triumph.

"During his career he became a legend by his own merits, and left an unforgettable mark both in the field and in the hearts of everyone he worked with," said Atletico.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49446602
 
Used to be my favourite player back in 2008 and 2009, he was an absolute beast at that time. Unfortunate guy whose career was ruined because of an injury...
 
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