The rise of Buddhism in comparison to Hinduism

[Varun]

Okay great. So there is no hindu or muslim in India. Everybody is a hindu. So the muslims of India, who in fact are hindus (Vaishnavites) as per you, should be treated as such by the government. The hindus, who call themselves hindus, should not have any problem with it. Any vaishnavite hindu politician is a muslim and any muslim politican is a vaishnavite hindu who is ruling over the people who identify themselves as hindus. So hindus should not have any problem with it. Pakistan was demanded by hindus too and hindus are demanding freedom of Kashmir. So no Hindu should have a problem with it because its their own hindu brothers who are making these demands.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Okay great. So there is no hindu or muslim in India. Everybody is a hindu. So the muslims of India, who in fact are hindus (Vaishnavites) as per you, should be treated as such by the government. The hindus, who call themselves hindus, should not have any problem with it. Any vaishnavite hindu politician is a muslim and any muslim politican is a vaishnavite hindu who is ruling over the people who identify themselves as hindus. So hindus should not have any problem with it. Pakistan was demanded by hindus too and hindus are demanding freedom of Kashmir. So no Hindu should have a problem with it because its their own hindu brothers who are making these demands.

You must be joking, but I will give you the benefit of doubt and give a sincere answer. The answer is ignorance. People have gone away from their deen dharam..and forgot the messages they were given. Just see the crisis in middle east..one God, one Book, one Prophet..yet no unity. So much disunity following a single path, then how can there be unity when there are multiple paths. Hindus should realize muslims are children and servants of the same God as they are. Muslims should also realize that they are hindu muslims (or muslim hindus depending on what they prefer as primary adjective)..the day it happens, there will be no demands of separation, but all will live together like a family.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You must be joking, but I will give you the benefit of doubt and give a sincere answer. The answer is ignorance. People have gone away from their deen dharam..and forgot the messages they were given. Just see the crisis in middle east..one God, one Book, one Prophet..yet no unity. So much disunity following a single path, then how can there be unity when there are multiple paths. Hindus should realize muslims are children and servants of the same God as they are. Muslims should also realize that they are hindu muslims (or muslim hindus depending on what they prefer as primary adjective)..the day it happens, there will be no demands of separation, but all will live together like a family.

As we know, atheists are also Hindus, thus they can also be accepted into the family one day if only they will set aside their foolish pride. But this is the dilemma of man, pride is what has kept him from nirvana.

 

[PakLFC]

Where are what are Hinduism's holiest sites? There are also some in Pak I believe.

 

[OoparCut]

I don't get how people are getting piece by following a religion (aka Culture, although they used to call it Dharam for as long as we recall), that is defining themselves as untouchable, completely worthless and that to by birth, without any fault of there own? Those are not few worthless people, but more than half the population are out casted

I never understood why untouchable would want to be Hindu or Why women follow Islam (specially the educated ones in this day and age). A Philosophy look down upon you for no rational reason, why you will respect or cater such ideas

One thing I don't get about Hindus, they define it by million different ways but follow it like religion and the educated ones, who buy their houses, make important decisions by "Vasus Kay Hasab Say", no matter how educated they get, are superstitious like 2000 year old guys, yet try to distance their religion from Cast System and all the baggage of Hinduism. That has nothing to do with religion, give me a break. Cast System is heart and sole of Hinduism, show some intellectual honest, you cannot change your future if you are not willing to study your history honestly. Now this "Atheist Hindus" is Oxymoron, what is the point of being Atheist, if you are going to follow all the Crap of Hinduism. You are just a Closet Hindu. Most of the times I get irritated by the Bollywood secularism, its like everybody should accept a form of Hindu culture, just add whatever God or No God you like, this is not secularism

This post is filled with ignorance. If someone posts here that jihadi violence is heart and soul of Islam, it would get moderated in a heart beat.

Just because you lack the knowledge and capacity to understand a religion that is alien to you, doesn't mean that you can write any garbage about it. Whether you accept it or not, Hinduism DOES accept atheistic philosophy as a means to an end. And doesn't reject it outright.

Maybe you are not open-minded enough to even grasp the concept of a belief system that doesn't presume to be the one and only monopoly to the divine. That's your problem. You should learn to mind your words and not disrespect others' faith.

 

[yasir]

This post is filled with ignorance. If someone posts here that jihadi violence is heart and soul of Islam, it would get moderated in a heart beat.

Just because you lack the knowledge and capacity to understand a religion that is alien to you, doesn't mean that you can write any garbage about it. Whether you accept it or not, Hinduism DOES accept atheistic philosophy as a means to an end. And doesn't reject it outright.

Maybe you are not open-minded enough to even grasp the concept of a belief system that doesn't presume to be the one and only monopoly to the divine. That's your problem. You should learn to mind your words and not disrespect others' faith.

If Pakistan has problem with Blasphemy, its not because of some moral or monetary corruption but has everything to do with Islam. Some how all muslim extremist believe in Quran quite literally, Quran just mention handful of verses about education, no wonder first Muslim university was ~230 years later, that too by a Chaliph who was inspired by Greeks, where as Prophet himself fought in 70+ wars, and even after 23 years as prophet, remain illiterate, he was not able to read and write till his death. Clearly Jihad was more important to Muslims than education. Most muslims don't read their history critically nor honestly...

India has been plagued by Cast System for a very long time. Hinduism was always in bed with people who govern and run that system. Infact Cast System was the core social structure of the society for thousands of years, and Dharmic institutions had always stood behind and defended it. Bhramans did not let masses to learn or even touch the books, they standby whole heartedly. This is not something I am making up, go have a deep and honest look at your history.

Blasphemy happens (or even just mentioned) in Pakistan, whole community get violent and lynch a kid, there supporters become national heros, that is not corruption but a sick culture, again heart and sole of clergy. In a same way "Saati" was perform in a small town/village in India, within a year millions of people visit that place, that become a major tourist spot, that tells you people are vested in that ideology.

Cast system is still integral part of Hindu Social Structure, most of my Indian friends can tell the cast of the person by last name and people do discriminate to date. There is a reason in 3000+ years of recorded history, not once we have seen people's revolution, Cast system has made masses salves for all those years. That has made our region most impotent one, despite being pretty good at brainy stuff. Has Hinduism once revolted against Cast System?? - That's probably the reason Buddhism never really took off in India, they have to move out, because Hinduism never tolerated opposition to Cast System, one of the fundamental social fabric of Indian Society for thousands of years.


Muslims in Pakistan and India are no different, they were more moulded to the ideas of Cast System than opposing it. Cast System was (probably is) the core social structure of Punjab and Sindhi, I don't get what is the beef between India and Pakistan, Pakistan has the same rotten Cast System still in every rural area. What's the point of all this fighting, when you are going take one of the worse thing India has to offer and make it central tenant of your society. Again no social revolution what so ever in thousands of years, they both have same culture and are equally impotent. Both ideologies has failed us

 

[Nostalgic]

I'm only 37 yet I am feeling the rise of Budhism in my mind, body and soul. Probably need to work out more and change my outlook in life.

I’m only 37 too! I feel the rise of arthritis in my joints. I should probably work out more too.

 

[TM Riddle]

37 yeah right!

 

[Nostalgic]

37 yeah right!

Oh, so you think [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] is older than that? He’s actually just wise beyond his years. You wouldn’t understand.

 

[TM Riddle]

Oh, so you think [MENTION=146530]DeadBall[/MENTION] is older than that? He’s actually just wise beyond his years. You wouldn’t understand.

The phrase "Dil to bachha hai jee " correctly applies to you two

 

[Nostalgic]

The phrase "Dil to bachha hai jee " correctly applies to you two

Thanks! I’ll take that as a compliment!

 

[troodon]

Anyone who is born in the Indian subcontinent is a Hindu. Hindu is not a religion. Its a geographical area. There is no Hinduism. Beautifully put below by Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev.

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[Cpt. Rishwat]

Anyone who is born in the Indian subcontinent is a Hindu. Hindu is not a religion. Its a geographical area. There is no Hinduism. Beautifully put below by Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev.

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Does that mean Hindus who emigrate are no longer Hindus? Finally things are starting to fall into place. It would make sense on so many levels.

 

[troodon]

Does that mean Hindus who emigrate are no longer Hindus? Finally things are starting to fall into place. It would make sense on so many levels.

Yes. My kid born in US is not a Hindu. He is American. Of course he gets to follow Sanatana Dharma. There are many Gods and Goddesses you can choose to follow and what ever brings you peace is the best for you. There are no standard set of rules or scriptures or pope type figure to tell you what you need to do and how you have to pray.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It also explains why Buddhism is far more popular than Hinduism outside India, as it is not tied to the region. The teachings are applicable anywhere and like Abrahamic faiths can easily be applied universally.