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Only major disappointment was WTC Finals. But it was underprepared match going into it and wrong team selection! No player (including Pant) can be held responsible for the debacle. Also rain played major spoil sport against India!
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Currently there are no options in tests apart from Saha. Our team management isn't trying new wicketkeeper batsman in tests but in LOI's he can be easily kicked out of our teams and we can play KL Rahul as a wicketkeeper batsman. :inti
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1.Rahul - Rahul has not even kept wickets in First class cricket and you want him to keep wickets in test matches in England and India?
2. Saha - He is too old. Even though he is a superior keeper than Pant, Pant's keeping has improved significantly that the gap is not as wide as it was 2 years ago. Saha is also not the future.

3. Pant - Pant has played enough match winning/changing innings over the last few years, that no one in their right mind is going to get rid of him. Even to just play FC for an year or 2 before his return. He has only shown 2 weaknesses in his batting - shot selection and approach in the initial 20 mins at the crease. He has shown an ability to improve as displayed in WK. There is no doubt that he can improve his batting under a mentor like Dravid. Unless he has catastrophic couple of series, he is set to remain India's no. 1 WK.
 
Sidilicious said:
1.Rahul - Rahul has not even kept wickets in First class cricket and you want him to keep wickets in test matches in England and India?
2. Saha - He is too old. Even though he is a superior keeper than Pant, Pant's keeping has improved significantly that the gap is not as wide as it was 2 years ago. Saha is also not the future.

3. Pant - Pant has played enough match winning/changing innings over the last few years, that no one in their right mind is going to get rid of him. Even to just play FC for an year or 2 before his return. He has only shown 2 weaknesses in his batting - shot selection and approach in the initial 20 mins at the crease. He has shown an ability to improve as displayed in WK. There is no doubt that he can improve his batting under a mentor like Dravid. Unless he has catastrophic couple of series, he is set to remain India's no. 1 WK.
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Learn to read properly. I clearly said Rahul can play as a wicketkeeper batsman in LOIs. And he has already done that in LOIs. :inti
 
RamLakhan said:
What is there to forget? India haven't lost a test-series since hype started over him. So if he again finishes this innings well and India wins there is nothing to forget and only to relish! He is young and he will learn... Time to forget Pujara & Rahane!
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Ask your coach...
 
silentkiller187 said:
Ask your coach...
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Isn't it interesting that some of his die hard fans are back in this thread after a good inning from Pant today? They are ready to throw eggs on faces and serve humble pies after a long time. It doesn't look good when his critics have something to say when he plays well but his die hard fans choose to skip this thread when he is being criticised.

Pant played a good inning today. Well done. :inti
 
Sidilicious said:
1.Rahul - Rahul has not even kept wickets in First class cricket and you want him to keep wickets in test matches in England and India?
2. Saha - He is too old. Even though he is a superior keeper than Pant, Pant's keeping has improved significantly that the gap is not as wide as it was 2 years ago. Saha is also not the future.

3. Pant - Pant has played enough match winning/changing innings over the last few years, that no one in their right mind is going to get rid of him. Even to just play FC for an year or 2 before his return. He has only shown 2 weaknesses in his batting - shot selection and approach in the initial 20 mins at the crease. He has shown an ability to improve as displayed in WK. There is no doubt that he can improve his batting under a mentor like Dravid. Unless he has catastrophic couple of series, he is set to remain India's no. 1 WK.
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I am not asking Pant to be dropped. I said team management isn't trying any new wicketkeeper in tests and Saha is old now. So he won't be dropped. Also as I said in the match thread, there are other guys who deserve to be kicked from test team before they can touch Pant. And those two are Pujara and Rahane. Rahul is also walking on thin line. Pant has improved his keeping. If he can start playing responsibly and not throw his wicket away who will have problem with him? :inti
 
As ugly as it is, this has been one of his better innings and I feel a bit for him with how cowardly the other batsman have been.
 
An absolute unbelievable knock from Pant on a really tough wicket in a decider.

Proves again that he is a big match player.
 
He’s an impact player, wont always be consistent but when he fires, especially in key series defining situations, it counts for a great deal. It’s a luxury to have such players in the line-up but some folk it seems don’t get the sort of player he is.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I am not asking Pant to be dropped. I said team management isn't trying any new wicketkeeper in tests and Saha is old now. So he won't be dropped. Also as I said in the match thread, there are other guys who deserve to be kicked from test team before they can touch Pant. And those two are Pujara and Rahane. Rahul is also walking on thin line. Pant has improved his keeping.<B> If he can start playing responsibly and not throw his wicket away who will have problem with him?</B> :inti
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Yes, he is very similar to Sehwag in that thing although he arguably has more impactful knocks in SEN by age of 25 than Sehwag had in his entire career.

Pant is basically Sehwag level when the ball moves except that he is also street smart cricketer which latter obviously wasn't.
 
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shaz619 said:
He’s an impact player, wont always be consistent but when he fires, especially in key series defining situations, it counts for a great deal. It’s a luxury to have such players in the line-up but some folk it seems don’t get the sort of player he is.
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People tend to forget his primary skill keeping which is more than adequate
 
Lets not beat around the bush, for all his silly decision making this is one hell of a knock making almost half his teams total
 
London_Lahori said:
What high standards and what humble
Pie, have you seen him recently 😂
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He has a 100 in Aus,Eng, SA and India and his primary role is of that of a keeper. I don’t want to make this a vs b because you won’t like that.

You do you man :)) whatever floats your boat
 
Highest Test scores by an Indian keeper in SENA countries

- South Africa: Rishabh Pant 100* +
- England: Rishabh Pant 114 #
- New Zealand: Syed Kirmani 78
- Australia: Rishabh Pant 159* +

+ highest by an Asian
# second highest by an Asian
 
Rishabh Pant (100*) is now the highest by an Indian wicket-keeper in South Africa!
Pant also has the highest score by an Indian keeper in England (114) and in Australia (159*)
 
1.Gabba vs Cummins and co
2.Sydney vs Cummins and co
3.Capetown vs Rabada and co
4.Ahmedabad vs Anderson and co

4 memorable knocks from Rishabh in Test Cricket vs top bowling attacks and across all conditions.
 
Century now in Eng, Aust and SA.

A top class talent as long as he puts his mind into the game. He looks really good if he plays orthodox cricket like he did today. Just need to cut down on blind slogging and the guy will be a legend.
 
Rajdeep said:
Century now in Eng, Aust and SA.

A top class talent as long as he puts his mind into the game. He looks really good if he plays orthodox cricket like he did today. Just need to cut down on blind slogging and the guy will be a legend.
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Don’t forget 100 in India. You can’t accuse Ashwin and Jadeja for cheap wickets on pitches were Root gets a fiver and than underrate knocks in Indian conditons. He is already an ATG keeper-bat because the list is small.
 
Test 100s by Indian wicket-keepers outside Asia

118 V Manjrekar v WI Kingston 1952/53
115*A Ratra v WI St John's 2002
104 W Saha v WI Gros Islet 2016
114 R Pant v Eng The Oval 2018
159*R Pant v Aus Sydney 2018/19
100*R Pant v SA Cape Town 2021/22
 
Local.Dada said:
Don’t forget 100 in India. You can’t accuse Ashwin and Jadeja for cheap wickets on pitches were Root gets a fiver and than underrate knocks in Indian conditons. He is already an ATG keeper-bat because the list is small.
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His talent was never in doubt. The only issue is his consistency. Sometimes he gets carried away and bring his inner Afridi out with blind slogging. If he can cut those...he will be an even better batsman.
 
One can only laugh at the delusional people who doubt him. You have to be absolute bonkers to question him and you clearly don’t know anything about cricket if you think he’s overhyped.

He is the new Gilchrist and the greatest WK batting talent to ever come out of the subcontinent. A sensational player who is only going to get bigger and greater.

Pant has a level of fear-factor that only Gilchrist before him possessed. When he is at the crease, no captain and bowler can rest easy because he can produce an insane innings out of nowhere.

Phenomenal knock by a phenomenal cricketer. It is a joy to watch him play.
 
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Pant is the most frustrating batsmen I have seen.

He is right up there with Gilchrist as far as talent and ability but his immaturity has so far prevented him from becoming a superstar player...

He now has 100s in SA, ENG & AUS, today's 100 in Cape Town showed his talent and ability, he is the best puller of the ball I have seen since Gilchrist, has all the time in the world to play all the shots... This is what separates him from avg to bits and pieces players like Rizwan, Sarfraz, etc but when he ends his career he may go down avging as the players mentioned above due to his lack of application..
 
ATG knock by Pant here. Due to others not chipping in, the knock may end up on the losing side.
 
The only people who think Pant isn't the greatest Asian keeper-batsman already and a potential ATG, second to Gilchrist, are:

1. Jealous people
2. Fans of other keepers and who feel insecure that Pant makes those players look small.
3. People who have close to zero knowledge of cricket.
4. Those who have all of the above traits :inti
 
This will be his greatest knock if India manges to win the match and the series for first time in South Africa .. He needs a lot of help from the bowlers though..
 
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Romali_rotti said:
Pant is the most frustrating batsmen I have seen.

He is right up there with Gilchrist as far as talent and ability but his immaturity has so far prevented him from becoming a superstar player...

He now has 100s in SA, ENG & AUS, today's 100 in Cape Town showed his talent and ability, he is the best puller of the ball I have seen since Gilchrist, has all the time in the world to play all the shots... This is what separates him from avg to bits and pieces players like Rizwan, Sarfraz, etc but when he ends his career he may go down avging as the players mentioned above due to his lack of application..
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Rizwan is bits and pieces player lol.
 
What Bhogle tweeted today is very true.
If Pant gives some time to himself, he can be an extraordinary player.
Some might argue that he is already an extraordinary player but gotta agree that he needs to give himself time when enters to bat.
Very Good inning today.

However I think management needs to bring some young WK batsman as backup instead of Saha. Poor knocks back to back are always around with player like Pant. And a young backup WK's presence will make him to check his shot.
 
As a Batsmen could be an ATG , as a wicketkeeper he is as good as Adnan Akmal. Lets just enjoy the talent rather then making hyperbole statements like he is already ATG wk to come out of asia, when he isnt even the best wicketkeeper in his country.
 
"My favourite all-time test cricket shot was played by Rishabh Pant when he reverse swept Jimmy Anderson"

- :amla while on air at Cape Town.
 
I consider it a privilege that I've been able to watch all of Pant's iconic test knocks ball by ball, and hopefully I can continue to remain jobless enough to be able to see him through to the end of his career.
 
3 test tons in SENA already including one in SA

I'm not sure how many Asian WK have tons in SA.
 
cricketjoshila said:
None i believe.
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Highest scores by Asian wicketkeepers in South Africa:

  1. RR Pant 100* at Cape Town - 11 Jan 2022
  2. MS Dhoni 90 at Centurion - 16 Dec 2010
  3. KC Sangakkara 89 at Centurion - 15 Nov 2002
  4. Liton Das 70 at Bloemfontein - 6 Oct 2017
  5. Mushfiqur Rahim 65 at Centurion - 26 Nov 2008
  6. D Dasgupta 63 at Port Elizabeth - 16 Nov 2001
  7. KD Karthik 63 at Cape Town - 2 Jan 2007
  8. LD Chandimal 58 at Durban - 26 Dec 2011
  9. Kamran Akmal 57* at Port Elizabeth - 19 Jan 2007
  10. Sarfaraz Ahmed 56 at Cape Town - 3 Jan 2019
 
indians claiming pant to be better than Rizwan :facepalm:

one player is nominated for ICC awards in the top category, while the other.........

Pant is yet to even avg 40 in one of the formats while rizwan avgs 50 in t20 and 40 in test.

and the indians here claiming that Pant is the next Gilchrist :))) :))) :))) :)))
 
Last Monetarist said:
Highest scores by Asian wicketkeepers in South Africa:

  1. RR Pant 100* at Cape Town - 11 Jan 2022
  2. MS Dhoni 90 at Centurion - 16 Dec 2010
  3. KC Sangakkara 89 at Centurion - 15 Nov 2002
  4. Liton Das 70 at Bloemfontein - 6 Oct 2017
  5. Mushfiqur Rahim 65 at Centurion - 26 Nov 2008
  6. D Dasgupta 63 at Port Elizabeth - 16 Nov 2001
  7. KD Karthik 63 at Cape Town - 2 Jan 2007
  8. LD Chandimal 58 at Durban - 26 Dec 2011
  9. Kamran Akmal 57* at Port Elizabeth - 19 Jan 2007
  10. Sarfaraz Ahmed 56 at Cape Town - 3 Jan 2019
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that Dhoni knock was on a patta where SA made 600+

Just goes to show how tough it is.
 
Major said:
indians claiming pant to be better than Rizwan :facepalm:

one player is nominated for ICC awards in the top category, while the other.........

Pant is yet to even avg 40 in one of the formats while rizwan avgs 50 in t20 and 40 in test.

and the indians here claiming that Pant is the next Gilchrist :))) :))) :))) :)))
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Rizwan better in LOIs, Pant better in Tests
 
Ind vs SA: Rishabh Pant scripts history with sensational century against South Africa in 3rd Test at Cape Town

Spearheading India's fightback on Day 3 of the third and final Test match of the bilateral series, wicketkeeper-batter Rishabh Pant slammed a sensational century against Dean Elgar-led South Africa at Cape Town's Newlands. Known for his aggressive batting style across all formats of the game, Pant played his natural game to rescue the Virat Kohli-led side on Thursday in the low-scoring thriller at Cape Town.

Pant joined forces with Kohli after Team India parted way with senior batters Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane in the opening session Day 3 at Newlands. Taking up the role of the aggressor from an in-form Kohli, Indian wicketkeeper batter Pant slammed a quick-fire half-century to rescue India from a shocking batting collapse on Day 3. While India lost Kohli before the end of the second session, Pant continued his batting onslaught to extend the lead of the visitors.

Though Pant ran out of partners in India's 2nd innings, the Indian southpaw managed to slam a stunning century to stage an impressive fightback for the visitors. Pant, who has four centuries in his Test career has also scripted history by playing a match-changing knock against the Proteas. The 24-year-old batter is the first Indian wicketkeeper to slam Test centuries in South Africa, England and Australia.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-south-africa-in-3rd-test-at-cape-town/849165
 
Which was a better batting performance? Capetown or Gabba?

I couldn't watch his batting but asking for others to respond. Anyways, Gabba will always be more memorable. As I have always said, that win is one to moan for decades and ages. Not sure about this though especially considering the present match situation.
 
Major said:
indians claiming pant to be better than Rizwan :facepalm:

one player is nominated for ICC awards in the top category, while the other.........

Pant is yet to even avg 40 in one of the formats while rizwan avgs 50 in t20 and 40 in test.

and the indians here claiming that Pant is the next Gilchrist :))) :))) :))) :)))
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You can put 100 more emojis in your post but even you know the truth.
 
pillionrider said:
Even Pakistani selectors would choose Pant over Rizwan in test cricket :rabada2
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no they wont.
The avgs speak for themselves.

Rizwan avgs in the 40s already in test cricket. Pant is still trying to find form. JUst because he did well in IPL doenst mean he is close to gilchrist in international
 
Credit where its due, he truly played a great knock today.

However, I'm not sold on him. Technically he is all over the place however mentally he is very strong. As long he sniffs timidness in the opposition he goes for the kill and on most occasions comes out on top. On occasions when he tries to dominate an opposition dominant session he has hideous dismissals.

For India as there aren't any alternatives on the horizon Pant is bound to get the long rope. He would always play the impactful innings here and there but when it comes to consistency he would always be lacking. He is a 37ish averaging player which is not bad given how horrific the batting units are nowadays and teams struggle to post 300s.

For all people on here trying to compare him to Rizwan then please don't. I feel they both are very different players where Rizwan is more assured and looked onto as a more responsible and consistent bat whilst Pant is looked upon as more impact player. Pant is something like Gilchrist or QdK who can own an innings here and there. I'm expecting great things from Rizwan and I feel he would go down as Pakistani legend across all formats by time he retires.
 
pillionrider said:
Even Pakistani selectors would choose Pant over Rizwan in test cricket :rabada2
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Not true. Rizwan is by far the greatest thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket in the past year or two. I wouldn't swap Rizwan for any cricketer haha, I hope he does captain Pakistan after Babar's stint.
 
Major said:
no they wont.
The avgs speak for themselves.

Rizwan avgs in the 40s already in test cricket. Pant is still trying to find form. JUst because he did well in IPL doenst mean he is close to gilchrist in international
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How many centuries in SENA?
 
Major said:
no they wont.
The avgs speak for themselves.

Rizwan avgs in the 40s already in test cricket. Pant is still trying to find form. JUst because he did well in IPL doenst mean he is close to gilchrist in international
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lolwut :)) The guy has a string of iconic knocks playing away from home.

Dunno why you're bringing IPL into it. We're talking about test cricket. In white ball cricket, I think most would agree that currently, Buttler and Rizwan are well ahead of him. But I doubt that status quo will remain for too long.
 
pillionrider said:
lolwut :)) The guy has a string of iconic knocks playing away from home.

Dunno why you're bringing IPL into it. We're talking about test cricket. In white ball cricket, I think most would agree that currently, Buttler and Rizwan are well ahead of him. But I doubt that status quo will remain for too long.
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In ODIs Rizwan is not that good. He avgs 28.

Only in T20s is Rizwan good.
 
cricketjoshila said:
In ODIs Rizwan is not that good. He avgs 28.

Only in T20s is Rizwan good.
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Ok, Buttler in ODIs, so far.

Extra_Cover said:
As long he sniffs timidness in the opposition he goes for the kill and on most occasions comes out on top. On occasions when he tries to dominate an opposition dominant session he has hideous dismissals.
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That's one too many a disclaimer. It's like Sidhu saying, "If my aunt had a moustache, I'd call her uncle" :))
 
Major said:
avg of 37 is despicable
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That's mostly because he doesn't play against poorer teams and at home. He has mostly played tough away matches vs top teams and yet produced impactful memorable performances.
 
Pant has played 28 matches and 20 of them were in SENA conditions 2 in Windies and only 6 in India and he still averages 40 after that.

Now imagine what his average will be when he gets to play against Srilanka, Bangladesh in home conditions.
That 40 average is soon going to reach 43+ for sure.
 
Major said:
avg of 37 is despicable
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He averages 39.5 not 37.
He has played 20 out of 28 test in SENA and 2 in windies.
Let's see what his average is after he gets to play more matches in home conditions and also against teams like ban and lanka.
 
Lol indian fans justifying avg of 30s being good :))

Avg of 30s have always been deemed bad whether you at home or away. Your home avg needs to be above 50 while away being above 40....

The lengths they will go defend this ipl hitter...
 
cricketjoshila said:
How many centuries Rizwan has?
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If 100s are a criteria, than based on your logic, hafeez is a better batsmen than dhoni as hafeez has 11 hundreds in odi while dhoni had 8.

You pick. You have condricted yourself on the drs conspiracy theory and now this
 
Superb innings that today, but like Kohli in the first innings, he received very little support from several of the senior batters.

He just needed even a bit of support and he could have stretched the lead close to 300.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Pant has played 28 matches and 20 of them were in SENA conditions 2 in Windies and only 6 in India and he still averages 40 after that.

Now imagine what his average will be when he gets to play against Srilanka, Bangladesh in home conditions.
That 40 average is soon going to reach 43+ for sure.
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If Dhoni had played mostly outside Asia, he would have been averaging around 30 and with his average keeping when the ball wobbles, I won't be surprised if he would have been dropped for Dinesh Karthik who is obviously a better test bat than MSD.

Dhoni would have had a Saha type test career in that case playing mostly at home when DK rests.
 
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