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jeeteshssaxena said:
Your whole argument is based on Pant averaging 39.4 and not 40.0 , lol
These are the type of arguments that have zero logic and will be shattered in a few months, as volatile as it gets.
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What is your argument based on? Honestly I think arguments from you shouldn't be taken seriously in this thread anymore because you stay away from this thread whenever Pant fails. You only come back here with a plate full of humble pies and a tray full of eggs after he scores some runs after playing 6-7 bad innings. You are no better than Umar Akmal fans here.

And [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] is right. Pant is indeed an inconsitent player just like KL Rahul these days. There is another overhyped player which you love to defend here blindly. I can't recall his name now. Something like Hard Hitting Sobers? :inti
 
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Pant has mostly played tough tours away from home but his reputation is still intact. As I said earlier, Pant is the next Gilchrist while Rizwan is more of a BJ Watling level cricketer.

Watling was gritty, resilient and safe with gloves, that is exactly what Rizwan is. Pant on other hand is a genuine match winner like Gilchrist. His two knocks in Australia 2020 tour ( even though he has test hundreds in Australia, South Africa and England aside of that) remains extremely iconic knocks and will be remembered even decades later. Then he has a test hundred in India vs a top team in a series decider too.

These are the kind of knocks that many great specialist batsman are not able to play in their entire career but Pant has done it before even reaching his silver jubilee. He is without a doubt the benchmark of this generation as far as genuine test cricket match winners are concerned.

In limited overs, yes, he took a couple of years but he has started translating his ability into performance there as well. In his last 5 ODI matches, he has got :-

85(71) vs South Africa
77(40) vs England
78(62) vs England

It was only a matter of time before he starts becoming a match winner in that format and the recent trend shows that ( last 5 ODI matches).
 
Mamoon said:
My only fear is that Dravid might not be a good coach for India. Shastri was the perfect motivator for Pant because he was a huge fan of his aggressive and fearless cricket, and that is how Shastri played the game himself.

This is why the Shastri and Kohli combo worked wonders for the Test team.

I am not impressed at all with Dravid so far. He was a great player and mentally very tough but he was never a fearless player and I hope his defensive mindset doesn’t ruin Pant’s confidence.

The worst thing you can do with Pant is to grill him for playing lose shots. With the way he plays, it is inevitable that these things will happen but you do not want to create doubt in his kind and shatter his confidence.

I just hope that Rohit let’s Pant do his thing and not tamper his aggression.
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Dravid's the worst possible coach for this Indian team, he might be very good technically but there are so many other aspects to coaching at the highest level. You don't really have to be a good player to be a good coach.

Anyone that had followed the Indian team closely under Shastri would have predicted the impact Dravid's dour personality would have on team morale.
 
Last Monetarist said:
Dravid's the worst possible coach for this Indian team, he might be very good technically but there are so many other aspects to coaching at the highest level. You don't really have to be a good player to be a good coach.

Anyone that had followed the Indian team closely under Shastri would have predicted the impact Dravid's dour personality would have on team morale.
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Dravid would have made good combination with Kohli. But with Rohit/Rahul also being similar personalities the team would go nowhere
 
Ab Fan said:
Pant has mostly played tough tours away from home but his reputation is still intact. As I said earlier, Pant is the next Gilchrist while Rizwan is more of a BJ Watling level cricketer.

Watling was gritty, resilient and safe with gloves, that is exactly what Rizwan is. Pant on other hand is a genuine match winner like Gilchrist. His two knocks in Australia 2020 tour ( even though he has test hundreds in Australia, South Africa and England aside of that) remains extremely iconic knocks and will be remembered even decades later. Then he has a test hundred in India vs a top team in a series decider too.

These are the kind of knocks that many great specialist batsman are not able to play in their entire career but Pant has done it before even reaching his silver jubilee. He is without a doubt the benchmark of this generation as far as genuine test cricket match winners are concerned.

In limited overs, yes, he took a couple of years but he has started translating his ability into performance there as well. In his last 5 ODI matches, he has got :-

85(71) vs South Africa
77(40) vs England
78(62) vs England

It was only a matter of time before he starts becoming a match winner in that format and the recent trend shows that ( last 5 ODI matches).
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I think we have already heard this from you multiple times in this thread. It is getting boring now. Tell us something new. :yawn

Regarding remembering these innings a decade later, some of his die hard fans have already forgotten those innings and now they are concentrating on his performances in the last 6 months. He better turn himself into a match winner in LOIs. May be he should learn something from young Yuvraj. Here is his inning against your favorite opposition Australia. :inti
 
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Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I think we have already heard this from you multiple times in this thread. It is getting boring now. Tell us something new. :yawn
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Poor post again and clear lack of readability on your part. You want to hear something new, it is already mentioned but unsurprisingly you displayed complete failure to read it.

<B>The Something new part in case you are still interested:</B>

In his last 5 ODI matches, he has got :-

85(71) vs South Africa
77(40) vs England
78(62) vs England

It was only a matter of time before he starts becoming a match winner in that format and the recent trend shows that ( last 5 ODI matches).

:inti
 
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Ab Fan said:
Poor post again and clear lack of readability on your part. You want to hear something new, it is already mentioned but unsurprisingly you displayed complete failure to read it.

<B>The Something new part in case you are still interested:</B>

In his last 5 ODI matches, he has got :-

85(71) vs South Africa
77(40) vs England
78(62) vs England

It was only a matter of time before he starts becoming a match winner in that format and the recent trend shows that ( last 5 ODI matches).

:inti
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Becoming a match winner? I do not want to hurt you further but India lost 2 out of the 3 matches you mentioned above lol. :rabada2

Watch some of Yuvi's innings when he wasn't even 24 then you will understand what a real match winner looks like. :inti
 
Pant made to open today.

I won't be surprised to see India score 350-400 more easily if this punt works.
 
56(54) at 103 str rate when others are finding it difficult to score at a strike rate of 70.
This thread is going the same way as the Steve Smith thread. Lol
 
Some fans are getting too desperate here it seems. Even Chahar scored 38 on this pitch and he is not even the next big thing. :91: :inti
 
and to think Indian fans compared this guy with Mohammad Rizwan.. ridiculous...
 
Amazing player. He is among very few batsman in the game who can come to bat at 40/3 and still score at 100+ strike rates in an ODI game.

Most players in these situations would score at 80-82 strike rates but Pant continues to intimidate the opposition and play with same fearless attitude. Other batters feed on him to prolong their innings.
 
What a player this lad is… Pant is an extraordinary player. Too win your country games for fun like he is doing is something else. The swag, the one hand sixes, improvisation the guy has got the lot. India have a superstar who will continue to win them big games in the years to come. India just keep on churning out these special batsmen.
 
Ab Fan said:
Amazing player. He is among very few batsman in the game who can come to bat at 40/3 and still score at 100+ strike rates in an ODI game.

Most players in these situations would score at 80-82 strike rates but Pant continues to intimidate the opposition and play with same fearless attitude. Other batters feed on him to prolong their innings.
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Agree he’s a Brilliant player and one of the best in the world for me. Teams fear him when he’s batting simple. Such a devastating batsmen.
 
Ab Fan said:
Amazing player. He is among very few batsman in the game who can come to bat at 40/3 and still score at 100+ strike rates in an ODI game.

Most players in these situations would score at 80-82 strike rates but Pant continues to intimidate the opposition and play with same fearless attitude. Other batters feed on him to prolong their innings.
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And how many times has he done that and also against which quality oppositions lol? There is a reason he gifts his wicket away in the shorter formats. :inti
 
Major said:
sure keep convincing yourself..

a cricketer of the year nominee is being compared to pants
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I don't think you need to bring "cricketer of the year nominee" thing to prove that Rizwan is currently the best wicketkeeper batsman in all formats combined. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
I don't think you need to bring "cricketer of the year nominee" thing to prove that Rizwan is currently the best wicketkeeper batsman in all formats combined. :inti
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it should be. An icc nomination is a big thing. A guy being nominated amongest the all shows he has been best in all formats
 
Some of his fans go missing on this thread when he fails.
Not denying he's talented but Pant has a long way to go in white ball cricket. Or even in test matches in testing conditions.
 
Wahid1234 said:
Agree he’s a Brilliant player and one of the best in the world for me. Teams fear him when he’s batting simple. Such a devastating batsmen.
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Yes, pure impact player and against quality sides, he is even better. Even in that WT20 game vs Pakistan, his contribution was very good alongwith Kohli and gave India a decent total to fight.

<B>Against top 5 opponents( SENA and Pakistan), he averages 40 at strike rate of 113, which is simply amazing in ODIs.</B>


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Ab Fan said:
Yes, pure impact player and against quality sides, he is even better. Even in that WT20 game vs Pakistan, his contribution was very good alongwith Kohli and gave India a decent total to fight.

<B>Against top 5 opponents( SENA and Pakistan), he averages 40 at strike rate of 113, which is simply amazing in ODIs.</B>


[https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...al1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting
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He’s a joy to watch. His one handed sixes are phenomenal. How he generates such power is amazing. He’s going to be a legend no doubt.

His contribution against the top teams at such a young age are staggering. Still can’t forget that counter attack innings he played against Australia in Australia in a test match to lead them to victory.


Don’t think we will ever witness such brilliance in a long time. Some of the shots he plays wow !
 
Ahmed216 said:
Some of his fans go missing on this thread when he fails.
Not denying he's talented but Pant has a long way to go in white ball cricket. Or even in test matches in testing conditions.
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Pant has centuries in England SA Australia. Series winning knocks in Australia.

Which other Asian cricketer has this?
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC emerging player of the year 2018 being compared to a nominee.
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You do know that CRICKETER OF THE YEAR is the biggest nomination and award compared to emerging cricketer which is just an award they give to new kids right?

Even though Rizwan won the T20 player of the year, but he got a nomination for Cricketer of the year which Pants was no where near.

You like to pretend to give logic around here, surprised you have trouble understanding such basic things.
 
This is the first time I am hearing about this nominee logic. Lolwut :yk
Oscar Nomination hai kya?

Rizwan is a good player and currently one of the best, no need to bring vague parameters to hype him up.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
This is the first time I am hearing about this nominee logic. Lolwut :yk
Oscar Nomination hai kya?

Rizwan is a good player and currently one of the best, no need to bring vague parameters to hype him up.
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Nominations arnt small things and nominations are celebrated as you were considered for that award...

Maybe in indian culture this isnt celebrated and only winner matters there.. i feel bad for indian culture than.

But in other societies nominies are given much importance and creadibility that he was considered for it...
 
Major said:
Yasir shah has a century in gabba.. so does that mean he is better than kohli?
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It’s fans like you that won’t give credit where it’s due to opposition players. Give over your comment is baseless. Like that there are a lot of tailenders who have centuries and half centuries for example saeed ajmal v England however our point is Pant has centuries against nearly all the top nations which has won his country matches from impossible positions already.

Wait a minute how many centuries does Yasir shah have and how many matches has he won batting for Pakistan I can’t seem to recall. And when he did score that century against Australia Pakistan lost that test as far as I’m aware..

I’m a Pakistani fan and I can digest brilliant talent so stop being a hater and just watch this extraordinary talent cricket has been gifted with. Pant is here to stay period.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
This is the first time I am hearing about this nominee logic. Lolwut :yk
Oscar Nomination hai kya?

Rizwan is a good player and currently one of the best, no need to bring vague parameters to hype him up.
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Pant has X factor he can change the game in no time but his keeping is just about par for a keeper.
Rizwan is levels ahead as a wicket keeper batesman
 
cricketjoshila said:
Pant has centuries in England SA Australia. Series winning knocks in Australia.

Which other Asian cricketer has this?
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Pant also failed badly in 5 out of 6 innings on SA tour.
Did almost nothing when ball was talking on last NZ and Eng tours.
Yes he's played some good knocks but his recklessness at crucial moments have also contributed to indian defeats. I've seen him throw away his wicket too on testing pitches. Gilly hardly ever did that. Pant is young and i am sure he'll improve but his fans shouldn't be hasty in making ATG comparisons
 
Rizwan is not comparable to Pant. Rizwan is next Watling while Pant is next Gilchrist. Quite a major difference.

Rizwan's age is 28-29 and he doesn't have 1000 test runs yet with only one hundred which means his average should be taken by a pinch of salt. One bad series and that average will dip from 42 to 38.

Pant is 24 years old and he has almost 2000 test runs with test centuries in Australia, South Africa, India and England. Aside of his hundreds, he has two iconic knock of 89* and 97 which helped his team win their greatest test series ever. He is already an icon of the game and done enough to be remembered for ages.

In comparison, Rizwan has only started to be consistent in Tests. In ODIs also, Pant is ahead as he averages 40 at strike rate 113 vs top 5 opponents. :inti

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s;type=batting

Rizwan is only ahead in T20Is but nobody in their right mind would pick an accumulator over a dasher in that format because the demands for a dasher in T29s is always higher than an accumulator and accumulation is an easy job in T20s( example- Manish Pandey AVG 47, SR 128).
 
Ab Fan said:
Rizwan is not comparable to Pant. Rizwan is next Watling while Pant is next Gilchrist. Quite a major difference.

Rizwan's age is 28-29 and he doesn't have 1000 test runs yet with only one hundred which means his average should be taken by a pinch of salt. One bad series and that average will dip from 42 to 38.

Pant is 24 years old and he has almost 2000 test runs with test centuries in Australia, South Africa, India and England. Aside of his hundreds, he has two iconic knock of 89* and 97 which helped his team win their greatest test series ever. He is already an icon of the game and done enough to be remembered for ages.

In comparison, Rizwan has only started to be consistent in Tests. In ODIs also, Pant is ahead as he averages 40 at strike rate 113 vs top 5 opponents. :inti

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s;type=batting

Rizwan is only ahead in T20Is but nobody in their right mind would pick an accumulator over a dasher in that format because the demands for a dasher in T29s is always higher than an accumulator and accumulation is an easy job in T20s( example- Manish Pandey AVG 47, SR 128).
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What about keeping? I will take Rizwan over him as a bat and keeper an that's very important.
 
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What about keeping? I will take Rizwan over him as a bat and keeper an that's very important.
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Rizwan is a better keeper but overall as a package, Pant is well ahead and this is what I have explained in my previous post.

Thanks!
 
Ab Fan said:
Rizwan is a better keeper but overall as a package, Pant is well ahead and this is what I have explained in my previous post.

Thanks!
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Depends on choice you make, I will definitely keep Rizwan in test if o have to take one of them, and that's because of his keeping skills.I still feel pant can be great in Odi and T20 though stats are not in that favour.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
This is the first time I am hearing about this nominee logic. Lolwut :yk
Oscar Nomination hai kya?

Rizwan is a good player and currently one of the best, no need to bring vague parameters to hype him up.
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Who is hyping Rizwan here? Is there any thread here calling Rizwan the next big thing? Or calling him the next Dhoni/Mccullum? :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
Rizwan is not comparable to Pant. Rizwan is next Watling while Pant is next Gilchrist. Quite a major difference.

Rizwan's age is 28-29 and he doesn't have 1000 test runs yet with only one hundred which means his average should be taken by a pinch of salt. One bad series and that average will dip from 42 to 38.

Pant is 24 years old and he has almost 2000 test runs with test centuries in Australia, South Africa, India and England. Aside of his hundreds, he has two iconic knock of 89* and 97 which helped his team win their greatest test series ever. He is already an icon of the game and done enough to be remembered for ages.

In comparison, Rizwan has only started to be consistent in Tests. In ODIs also, Pant is ahead as he averages 40 at strike rate 113 vs top 5 opponents. :inti

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s;type=batting

Rizwan is only ahead in T20Is but nobody in their right mind would pick an accumulator over a dasher in that format because the demands for a dasher in T29s is always higher than an accumulator and accumulation is an easy job in T20s( example- Manish Pandey AVG 47, SR 128).
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Dasher Pant averages 23 with a strike rate of 123 in T20s. Rizwan on the other hand averages 50 plus with a strike rate of 128. :kp

Dasher Pant batted with a strike rate of 130 while batting first against Pakistan in the World Cup whereas accumulator Rizwan batted with a strike rate of 143 while chasing the target and won that match for his country. Just goes to show that he can switch gears when he wants. :rabada2

If you really want a dasher in T20s for India then you should support Kishan who averages around 28 and has a strike rate of 134. :inti
 
Wahid1234 said:
It’s fans like you that won’t give credit where it’s due to opposition players. Give over your comment is baseless. Like that there are a lot of tailenders who have centuries and half centuries for example saeed ajmal v England however our point is Pant has centuries against nearly all the top nations which has won his country matches from impossible positions already.

Wait a minute how many centuries does Yasir shah have and how many matches has he won batting for Pakistan I can’t seem to recall. And when he did score that century against Australia Pakistan lost that test as far as I’m aware..

I’m a Pakistani fan and I can digest brilliant talent so stop being a hater and just watch this extraordinary talent cricket has been gifted with. Pant is here to stay period.
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Yasir shah > kohli because he has a century in gabba.

Those are the standards set by joshila not me just to say pant ia better than icc award winner and nominee rizwan
 
Major said:
Yasir shah > kohli because he has a century in gabba.

Those are the standards set by joshila not me just to say pant ia better than icc award winner and nominee rizwan
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Except that Yasir Shah has 1 hundred in test matches while Kohli has 27 also the difference in average.

Pant and Rizwan average nearly the same 42 and 39.6 (diff of 2.5ish) and that's when Pant has played 90 percent of his tests in SENAW conditions.

Well actually, I think after this home season I won't even need to justify this average difference , Pant's average will easily eclipse Rizwans.
 
shamaan said:
Pant has X factor he can change the game in no time but his keeping is just about par for a keeper.
Rizwan is levels ahead as a wicket keeper batesman
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Rizwan is the better keeper no question.

But Pant's batting talent is rare. For a asian to score test centuries in SENA isn't easy and he already has 3 and isn't even 25.
 
Major said:
Yasir shah > kohli because he has a century in gabba.

Those are the standards set by joshila not me just to say pant ia better than icc award winner and nominee rizwan
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Kohli has 4 or 5 centuries in Australia.
 
Major said:
so when did Indian posters started to follow or listen to Pakistanis? Wow thats a start.
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It's not about following or listening to anyone. Winning in SENA regularly (tests) was the only thing Indian cricket has failed to do in it's decades of history so when we finally got a bowling attack that could take 20 wickets in SENA, the focus on winning in those countries increased drastically to a point where performances in Asia became irrelevant when it comes to judging newbies.

One of the main reasons why Iyer was dropped for Rahane in South Africa despite scoring 150+ on debut.
 
Mesozoic said:
It's not about following or listening to anyone. Winning in SENA regularly (tests) was the only thing Indian cricket has failed to do in it's decades of history so when we finally got a bowling attack that could take 20 wickets in SENA, the focus on winning in those countries increased drastically to a point where performances in Asia became irrelevant when it comes to judging newbies.

One of the main reasons why Iyer was dropped for Rahane in South Africa despite scoring 150+ on debut.
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I like how you put it.

What i remember it was more like... Yes so what if we win at home, the rest of the nations do the same...

Than when India won a few overseas, now the Indian fans are slowly making SENA the benchmark....

They start losing, they will against resort to the former argument.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Rizwan is the better keeper no question.

But Pant's batting talent is rare. For a asian to score test centuries in SENA isn't easy and he already has 3 and isn't even 25.
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If am correct he bats in the top 5 majority of the time so he has more chance to score runs.
Rizwan bats at 6/7 so his chances to score 100s with the all rounders is much harder.
 
Some quite tangential / low quality posts starting to appear.

Stick to the topic please guys.
 
Ahmed216 said:
Some of his fans go missing on this thread when he fails.
Not denying he's talented but Pant has a long way to go in white ball cricket. Or even in test matches in testing conditions.
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Oh ok I See 100’s and match winning 90’s vs Hazelwood, Cummins,Starc, Lyon or 100’s vs Rabada and co and on spinning tracks in India and Broad, Anderson, Woakes etc are not testing conditions.

Can you define testing conditions for me?
 
Local.Dada said:
Oh ok I See 100’s and match winning 90’s vs Hazelwood, Cummins,Starc, Lyon or 100’s vs Rabada and co and on spinning tracks in India and Broad, Anderson, Woakes etc are not testing conditions.

Can you define testing conditions for me?
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Rishabh Pant failed in almost all innings on last NZ Eng and SA tours except one hundred in SA.
Hundred in England 2018 came on a flat oval pitch iirc.
WTC final was another ocassion where he played some awful cricket
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
The best cricketer in the world.
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In which world that would be? Lol

There is no middle ground for Pant. His fans hype him up to the moon and his haters dish him for everything.

Truth is, Pant is a talented player who already played some ATG knocks in test cricket but yet to make his mark in white ball format. Infact, with all the talk of him being an aggressive batsman, he struggles to hit sixes at will like Sehwag, Rohit or even Pandya used to do before his back injury.
 
Rajdeep said:
In which world that would be? Lol

There is no middle ground for Pant. His fans hype him up to the moon and his haters dish him for everything.

Truth is, Pant is a talented player who already played some ATG knocks in test cricket but yet to make his mark in white ball format. Infact, with all the talk of him being an aggressive batsman, he struggles to hit sixes at will like Sehwag, Rohit or even Pandya used to do before his back injury.
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How many chances has he got in white ball and at what number?

Pant is good enough to play in top 4 if not top 3. Play him there for a year and you will see what he can do.
 
cricketjoshila said:
How many chances has he got in white ball and at what number?

Pant is good enough to play in top 4 if not top 3. Play him there for a year and you will see what he can do.
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T20s : 43
ODIs : 24

Other young players don't even get 10% of these opportunities. Pant also has played at 4 many times, guys like Dhoni/Raina used to bat lower in LOIs. He is getting too much support from TM but isn't producing the numbers. :inti
 
cricketjoshila said:
How many chances has he got in white ball and at what number?

Pant is good enough to play in top 4 if not top 3. Play him there for a year and you will see what he can do.
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He had enough matches.
Played 3 big tournaments (All formats) with no impact.

He is good in Tests but mediocre in LOI format.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yup, 39.4 at 68 Rizwan averages 42 at 50 not much difference if you consider the fact that Pant has'nt played much in Asian conditions.
No problem though, home season is coming up, his average will reach 45 let alone 40.
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I called it some time ago.
He only needs one home season to catapult his average to 45.
The best cricketer in the world.
 
Every time india needs him, he has performed. How can someone be such clutch performer?
 
Rishabh Pant in Test cricket in India:

92(84)
92(134)
91(88)
11(19)
58*(77)
8(11)
1(8)
101(118)
96(97)
 
This entire Rizwan vs Pant debate is very bizzare.

I mean it's a very debatable topic statistically. Rizwan used to be mediocre and has now become amazing, but some of his numbers are dragged down from the past. Pant was horribly mistreated by Indian management, and he spent a period of an year or more where he batted worse than Hasan Ali probably, so there's plenty to nitpick about their stats.

That said I don't know why one needs to be criticized harshly to point out the other as good. These guys are both World Class and would be auto-picks in any squad at all.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
This entire Rizwan vs Pant debate is very bizzare.

I mean it's a very debatable topic statistically. Rizwan used to be mediocre and has now become amazing, but some of his numbers are dragged down from the past. Pant was horribly mistreated by Indian management, and he spent a period of an year or more where he batted worse than Hasan Ali probably, so there's plenty to nitpick about their stats.

That said I don't know why one needs to be criticized harshly to point out the other as good. These guys are both World Class and would be auto-picks in any squad at all.
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But this is not a Rizwan vs Pant thread. :inti
 
Rishabh Pant's 28-ball fifty is......

-Fastest by a wicket-keeper in Test cricket
-Fastest for India in Test cricket
-Fastest by any player in a d/n Test match
 
Pant's keeping has improved a lot and has become a top-class keeper.

I caught a bit of action. He was always pretty good against pacers and now doing a great job against spin on this track.
 
Outstanding test cricketer, much like Virender Sehwag who intimidated opposition with his destructive batting display on wickets that weren't conducive for swing and seam bowling. :inti

The added advantage with Pant is that he also keep gloves. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
I doubt anyone doubts that. The question for them is how they continue to behave/show that they still doubt it :inti
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There just seems to be one *****(the one with Sehwag as his DP) who seems to be doubting him but to be fair he's a "special" kid. Rest have no reason to doubt him.
 
Those who were mocking him for his keeping have gone into hiding now. Pant is a freakish talent and he will be great at anything if he puts his mind to it.

He just needed more practice and experience especially on Indian wickets to truly hone his craft.

The most talented WK batsman to come out of Asia since Dhoni burst onto the scene in 2004-05.

Well on his way to becoming the GOAT Indian WK batsman and could scale the heights of Gilchrist if not surpass him. Sensational player.
 
Think his knocks in australia complemented by his knocks against sa , Eng and now his fastest 50 on a rank Turner have put him with Gilchrist . He is going beyond Gilchrist . Likely to be the next captain .

Saw fear in the bowlers and the fielding captain when he bats . gilchrist played some memorable knocks but pant is more in the peak Haydos ( Hayden) and peak Sehwag league in terms of impact
 
Unleashed said:
There just seems to be one *****(the one with Sehwag as his DP) who seems to be doubting him but to be fair he's a "special" kid. Rest have no reason to doubt him.
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Agreed completely. It is basically a case which happens when one's ego become so big that he is not even willing to accept that 1+1 = 2 and keep arguing and criticising for the same even though may end up looking like a fool.
 
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