The top teams' batting orders are settled for the 2019 World Cup but...

[Sajjad-007]

WC 2019 is one and a half years away.Top teams already settled their batting order.Look below the batting Position of Top 5 Teams(1-7).

England
1.Hales
2.Roy
3.Root
4.Morgan
5.Butler
6.Stokes
7.Moeen

Australlia
1.Warner
2.Finch
3.Smith
4.Head
5.Lynn/Maxwell
6.Wade/Paine
7.Stonis/M.Marsh

South Africa
1.Cock
2.Amla
3.Duplesis
4.De villiars
5.Dumini
6.Miller
7.Morris

India
1.Rohit
2.Dhawan
3.Kohli
4.Rahane/Manish
5.Dohni
6.Jadhav
7.Pandya

Newzealand
1.Munro
2.Guptill
3.Williamson
4.Ross
5.Latham
6.De grandhomme
7.Nicholls

Now coming to pakistan team.
1.Fakhar
2.?
3.Babar
4.Haris
5.?
6.Sarfaraz
7.Faheem
Very much unsettled.
Views?

 

[WengerOut]

Overall quality wise , SA, iND and Pak look soft.

 

[Protea Fan]

Add woakes at 8 and that eng lineup looks nothing but ecstatic

This unit is easily head and shoulders above the rest of the teams

 

[Cozyrensetter]

Wow look at the players sitting out for England....Bairostow,Billings,Roland jones

 

[Usman Chadda]

England is arguably the strongest batting line-up in world cricket today. No other team is remotely close.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Settled? Apart from England I dont think any batting lineup looks that settled to be honest. Maybe enzed to some extent but that's it.

 

[subbu]

Apart from England rest are not settled .. India need somebody like Suresh Raina at 6 ..
Picked in T20's vs SA (scored heavily in Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy)

 

[Smudger]

England is arguably the strongest batting line-up in world cricket today. No other team is remotely close.

India have the strongest batting line up
What happened to eng when they came to ind

 

[shokz1408]

I've never rated the England line up, still don't. They always fail to turn up in major ODI tournaments.

 

[Convict]

Australia is not settled at all.

 

[Usman Chadda]

India have the strongest batting line up
What happened to eng when they came to ind

India batting is basically Kohli, Sharma and Dhawan. The rest are duds. India is weaker than New Zealand and on par with Australia.

 

[AMSS]

India batting is basically Kohli, Sharma and Dhawan. The rest are duds. India is weaker than New Zealand and on par with Australia.

Must be their superior bowling that has kept them in the top 2 for most of this decade?

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

WC 2019 is one and a half years away.Top teams already settled their batting order.Look below the batting Position of Top 5 Teams(1-7).

England
1.Hales
2.Roy
3.Root
4.Morgan
5.Butler
6.Stokes
7.Moeen

Australlia
1.Warner
2.Finch
3.Smith
4.Head
5.Lynn/Maxwell
6.Wade/Paine
7.Stonis/M.Marsh

South Africa
1.Cock
2.Amla
3.Duplesis
4.De villiars
5.Dumini
6.Miller
7.Morris

India
1.Rohit
2.Dhawan
3.Kohli
4.Rahane/Manish
5.Dohni
6.Jadhav
7.Pandya

Newzealand
1.Munro
2.Guptill
3.Williamson
4.Ross
5.Latham
6.De grandhomme
7.Nicholls

Now coming to pakistan team.
1.Fakhar
2.?
3.Babar
4.Haris
5.?
6.Sarfaraz
7.Faheem
Very much unsettled.
Views?

Actually for Pakistan it's

Fakhar
?
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz
?
Shadab

Number 1 and Number 6 are the issue here

If Hafeez can bowl then he can open with Fakhar othervise go with a new opener and we need a good number 6 and Malik is definitely not the answer.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Must be their superior bowling that has kept them in the top 2 for most of this decade?

Are we talking about the present or the past decade here?

 

[AMSS]

Are we talking about the present or the past decade here?

I wrote 'this decade' indicating present decade that started from January 1, 2009. India has had the best Win loss record during this period next only to South Africa. On the other hand, while Saffers have continued to choke through ICC events, India won the WC and the CT, making them the best ODI team of this decade.

 

[Syed1]

When has Pak ever gone into a world event with a settled side? Heck all our WC/tournament wins have come due to ad hoc decisions and new players thrown in the deep end.

 

[Smudger]

India batting is basically Kohli, Sharma and Dhawan. The rest are duds. India is weaker than New Zealand and on par with Australia.

Your top 3 are always going to score the bulk of runs and india's middle order isnt bad either with the presence of dhoni and pandya.
Most of the time one of their top 3 gets a 100 . So their work is cut short.
India's current bowling line up is also best in the world. 2 good quick bowlers , 2 wrist spinners and pandya/jadhav for 5th bowler. Shami and yadav are waiting in the wings

 

[Syed1]

Atleast 2019 WC our side will be better than 2015 WC which had garbage players like Misbah, YK and Umar Akmal.

 

[Abdullah]

Pak need an opener and a number 6 at the same time as getting imad in there.
1,3-5, should be locked.
Other question is what do we want Shadabs role to be and getting another hitter alongside fahim in there.
I think Shadab is good enough to play at 6. Then fahim and another dasher below him. With hasan and amir after that

 

[Abdullah]

At the same time we need 6 proper bowling options
I don't think u can rely on haris to bowl 7 overs if one of the bowlers is having a mare

 

[Usman Chadda]

Your top 3 are always going to score the bulk of runs and india's middle order isnt bad either with the presence of dhoni and pandya.
Most of the time one of their top 3 gets a 100 . So their work is cut short.
India's current bowling line up is also best in the world. 2 good quick bowlers , 2 wrist spinners and pandya/jadhav for 5th bowler. Shami and yadav are waiting in the wings

The top three scoring bulk of the runs is great as long as you don't run into a side that takes out your top three for nothing, and leaves you in ruins. What happened against Pakistan can happen against any of the top 6 sides, and India has absolutely nowhere to go once any two of the three don't get decent partnerships. I believe something similar happened in the WC15 semi-final? Your top three was back in the pavilion within 100 runs, and you completely disintegrated. So that's two big matches in two big tournaments the batting mucked up.

As far as the bowling is concerned, look at the scores the opposition made in the two matches to establish that fact. And you got out-gunned by two units that were by far the best bowling sides in the tournament.

 

[subbu]

I wrote 'this decade' indicating present decade that started from January 1, 2009. India has had the best Win loss record during this period next only to South Africa. On the other hand, while Saffers have continued to choke through ICC events, India won the WC and the CT, making them the best ODI team of this decade.

India has the best WIN percentage

 

[AMSS]

India has the best WIN percentage

My cut off my off by a year, that is why

 

[subbu]

My cut off my off by a year, that is why

ok ...even if u consider 2009 still India has best win Percentage

 

[Aami]

Fakhar
Sarfraz
Babar
Haris
?
?
Shadab
Fahim
Hasan
Amir
Raees etc etc

 

[Justcrazy]

Fakhar
Babaar
Harris
?
Sarfaraz
?
Shadab
Fahim
Amir yamine
Hassan
Amir

 

[babajee]

We can win the World cup:

1) Fakhar
2) AGGRESSIVE OPENER
3) Babar
4) Haris
5) Sarfaraz
6) POWER HITTER

 

[austerlitz]

India's batting is not settled at all.We need good players at 4 and 5,really missing someone like yuvi.

 

[Savak]

We need hitters like Sharjeel in the opening slot, in the middle order, lower middle order and at the death. We need a batting line up that can score the minimum of 300 plus.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Pakistan batting order should look like this
Fakher
Ahmed/sharjeel(after ban)/shibzada
Baber
Haris
Sarfraz(shouldn't bat lower than 5)
Umer/maqsood
Shadab
Faheem
But this ain't going to happen
Malik will be at 5 and sarfraz will bat at 6
Oh wait.. I forget Hafeez

 

[jnaveen1980]

India's middle order is a big question mark. They better fix it. Otherwise their CT experience will repeat. Indian bowling will definitely look better. India lost to Srilanka and Pakistan in CT when they were expected to win. One was because Indian spin bowling was toothless. That issue is addressed now. But other issue of weak middle order is yet to be addressed.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

When has Pak ever gone into a world event with a settled side? Heck all our WC/tournament wins have come due to ad hoc decisions and new players thrown in the deep end.

Totally agree to this.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Australian batting lineup is anything but settled. The only players who are assured of a place are Warner Finch and Smith. Rest of the 4, they keep chopping and changing.

 

[giri26]

I don't think any team has a settled team yet except for probably England. India still need a lot of work with their middle order, South Africa by the evidence of the present series look pretty poor as well, Australia still are figuring out as to who they want to play in their middle order and less said about Sri Lanka the better. New Zealand possibly have a settled line up? Not sure. So the premise of the thread is wrong, none of the teams have their team figured out for the world cup.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

Indian batting lineup is far from settled.

Our openers Rohit and Dhawan are fire or miss. Thankfully we get roads in WCs otherwise whenever the ball moves and inch, they both are duds.

Rahane and Pandey are proven failures in ODIs. The less said about Jadhav and Dhoni the better. Dhoni is well past his prime and a liability these days. Pandya against spinners is brilliant but can’t be said same against pacers.

Our batting is heavily dependent on Kohli just the way it used to be 90’s with Tendulkar.

Dont let these wins SA mask India’s weaknesses.

Surprisingly our bowlers look a lot settled for a change. Bhuvi- Bumrah-Chahal-Kuldeep- Pandya looks very promising on any surface. And we have the likes of Shami, Jadeja, Ashwin as reserves.

 

[dravidthewall]

India got bumrah chahal kuldeep kohli dhawan pandya

 

[dravidthewall]

And bhuvi

 

[CanadianG00se]

India’s batting order is anything but settled.

Rohit is inconsistent and will go missing against tougher opponents
Dhawan is hit and miss
Kohli- Run Machine
Dhoni- Tuk Tuk machine
Jadhav- most useless player, cant field, cant catch, cant bat.
Rahane- Not suitable for Odis.
Pandey- Still trying to settle in
Pandya- Very inconsistent

Now tell me, how exactly is Indian line up settled?

 

[dravidthewall]

India’s batting order is anything but settled.

Rohit is inconsistent and will go missing against tougher opponents
Dhawan is hit and miss
Kohli- Run Machine
Dhoni- Tuk Tuk machine
Jadhav- most useless player, cant field, cant catch, cant bat.
Rahane- Not suitable for Odis.
Pandey- Still trying to settle in
Pandya- Very inconsistent

Now tell me, how exactly is Indian line up settled?

India having bowlers like chahal kuldeep bumrah shami and bhuvi..who can rip to any batting line up

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

India’s batting order is anything but settled.

Rohit is inconsistent and will go missing against tougher opponents
Dhawan is hit and miss
Kohli- Run Machine
Dhoni- Tuk Tuk machine
Jadhav- most useless player, cant field, cant catch, cant bat.
Rahane- Not suitable for Odis.
Pandey- Still trying to settle in
Pandya- Very inconsistent

Now tell me, how exactly is Indian line up settled?

Exactly my point.

We should have utilised these ODIs before 2019 WC by bringing in the likes of Pant, Iyer and may be couple of players from under 19s like Prithvi Shaw and Gill. Not all of them at once but systematically. But no , we have to go with the same line up again and again.

 

[CanadianG00se]

India having bowlers like chahal kuldeep bumrah shami and bhuvi..who can rip to any batting line up

But not always Kohli gonna score and get India out of trouble. Kohli too will have bad patch and if India do not improve the middle order, we would struggle just like SA.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

Forgot about KL Rahul. He should be given a longer run like Rohit. He has more potential than Pandey, Jadhav etc. but a few failures and he is being side lined. :face palm

 

[dravidthewall]

But not always Kohli gonna score and get India out of trouble. Kohli too will have bad patch and if India do not improve the middle order, we would struggle just like SA.

U r right..indian batting lineup shuld be
Rohit (no option)
Dhawan
Kohli
Pandey
Ayyer
Dhoni
Pandya
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Chahal
Kuldeep

 

[CanadianG00se]

Exactly my point.

We should have utilised these ODIs before 2019 WC by bringing in the likes of Pant, Iyer and may be couple of players from under 19s like Prithvi Shaw and Gill. Not all of them at once but systematically. But no , we have to go with the same line up again and again.

Im not getting a great feeling about next year’s World Cup. Most teams are trying out their bench strength and here we are chest thumping by winning some meaningless Odis. I have a feeling we are up for rude awakening upcoming worldcup. Our batting order will get exposed big time. Looking at our batting order, I might drop my plan to visit UK for Worldcup.

 

[CanadianG00se]

U r right..indian batting lineup shuld be
Rohit (no option)
Dhawan
Kohli
Pandey
Ayyer
Dhoni
Pandya
Bhuvi
Bumrah
Chahal
Kuldeep

Id honestly bring in KL Rahul and allow him to keep the wickets. Let Dhoni take some ‘Rest’, if needed he can be sidelined and be Mentor for this team. Im so disappointed at Kohli and Idiot Shastri the way they have handled KL Rahul. I really wish Rahul Dravid was our head coach instead of the cheerleader we have.
Already we have Dhoni and Jadhav in team who are basically freeloader, and instead of kicking them out, management brings in Rahane I really wanted us to lose this odi series by 5-1 or 6-0 margin so that fans and media would get on Kohli’s nerve and make him drop some of these underperforming players, but instead our bowlers are making it easy for our batsmen and this will come back to bite us in near future (Hope not at the Worldcup)


Does Jadhav have like strong political backing? Because I dont see how exactly he keeps getting selected into playing XI. His one fluke innings against England have really destroyed our middle order

 

[CanadianG00se]

Forgot about KL Rahul. He should be given a longer run like Rohit. He has more potential than Pandey, Jadhav etc. but a few failures and he is being side lined. :face palm

KL Rahul sadly have no strong backing like Jadhav does. Id do bhangra in downtown Toronto if Jadhav and Dhoni are dropped from Indian team permanently before Worldcup.

 

[CadPakFan]

India has the best WIN percentage
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our W/L rate is lower than Afghanistan and Hong Kong!

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

KL Rahul sadly have no strong backing like Jadhav does. Id do bhangra in downtown Toronto if Jadhav and Dhoni are dropped from Indian team permanently before Worldcup.

Lol keep a cam handy when you do that. But I don’t think Shashtri and selectors will let you do it.

On a serious note I don’t see us getting past group stages in the 2019 WC. A very sad possibility which is inevitable because of the idiots in the position.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Lol keep a cam handy when you do that. But I don’t think Shashtri and selectors will let you do it.

On a serious note I don’t see us getting past group stages in the 2019 WC. A very sad possibility which is inevitable because of the idiots in the position.

I feel the same which is why Im having second thought about going to UK for Worldcup.

 

[dravidthewall]

Id honestly bring in KL Rahul and allow him to keep the wickets. Let Dhoni take some ‘Rest’, if needed he can be sidelined and be Mentor for this team. Im so disappointed at Kohli and Idiot Shastri the way they have handled KL Rahul. I really wish Rahul Dravid was our head coach instead of the cheerleader we have.
Already we have Dhoni and Jadhav in team who are basically freeloader, and instead of kicking them out, management brings in Rahane I really wanted us to lose this odi series by 5-1 or 6-0 margin so that fans and media would get on Kohli’s nerve and make him drop some of these underperforming players, but instead our bowlers are making it easy for our batsmen and this will come back to bite us in near future (Hope not at the Worldcup)


Does Jadhav have like strong political backing? Because I dont see how exactly he keeps getting selected into playing XI. His one fluke innings against England have really destroyed our middle order

Right but if kl rahul want to play than only he shuld play in top order but we cant remove rohit as he is kohlis best buddy. And dhoni cant go until only he wish to go ..so we have to give chance to either shreyas or subham gill