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"There is no point in talking to them" : PM Imran Khan on India (NY Times interview)

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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Prime Minister Imran Khan of Pakistan intensified his criticism of India on Wednesday over its Kashmir crackdown, saying he would no longer seek dialogue with Indian officials and raising the threat of a military escalation between the nuclear-armed neighbors.

In an interview with The New York Times, Mr. Khan complained bitterly about what he described as repeated rebuffs from Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India at his entreaties for communication, both before and after the Aug. 5 crackdown on the disputed territory of Kashmir.

“There is no point in talking to them. I mean, I have done all the talking. Unfortunately, now when I look back, all the overtures that I was making for peace and dialogue, I think they took it for appeasement,” Mr. Khan said during the interview, at the prime minister’s office in Islamabad. “There is nothing more that we can do.”

Mr. Khan has repeatedly denounced India’s Hindu nationalist government for terminating the autonomy of the India-controlled part of Kashmir in an abrupt move more than two weeks ago. India deployed thousands of troops to quell any possible unrest and severed nearly all communications in the poor Himalayan region, the flash point for two wars between India and Pakistan.

In Kashmir, Indian security forces are stopping people from moving freely and a communications blackout has cut residents off from the outside world.CreditCreditAtul Loke for The New York Times
Indian soldiers and police officers have been accused of using excessive force on Kashmiri civilians, and have detained the territory’s political leadership, drawing strong criticism from rights groups and the United Nations.

It has been difficult to ascertain the full extent of the crackdown because of the Indian measures, which officials say they are slowly lifting. Thousands of Kashmiris, however, have been unable to attend funerals, births or call and check in on their loved ones because of the curfews, myriad checkpoints and a communications blockade on the region.

There was no immediate comment from the Indian government in New Delhi on Mr. Khan’s remarks. But India’s ambassador to the United States, Harsh Vardhan Shringla, who was visiting The New York Times editorial board, rejected the criticism.

“Our experience has been that every time we have taken an initiative toward peace, it has turned out badly for us,” the ambassador said. “We expect Pakistan to take credible, irreversible and verifiable action against terrorism.”

He also disputed the severity of India’s actions in Kashmir. “We are looking at things going back to normal,” he said. “Restrictions are being eased based on the ground situation.”

“Public utility services, banks and hospitals are functioning normally,” the Indian ambassador added. “There are adequate food stocks. Some restrictions on communication are in the interests of safety and security of the citizenry.”

International rights groups and Kashmiris say ordinary citizens are unable to reach hospitals because of Indian security checkpoints, and medical and food stocks ran low shortly after India stripped the region of its autonomy this month.

Most of Kashmir’s political leadership has been detained by Indian forces, many of them locked up in a hotel for the past few weeks, unable to communicate with their constituents or the outside world. Indian officials have said these politicians were detained over concerns they were inciting violence, although there is little evidence of that.

In their litany of accusations, Mr. Khan and his cabinet ministers have likened the New Delhi government to Nazi Germany and claimed that a genocide is unfolding in the territory.

Although Mr. Khan’s assertions have been criticized for their hyperbole, many Indian Muslims do feel discriminated against by the central government, which has often watched on as Hindu citizens have violently targeted them.

Mr. Khan’s interview with The Times was his first with an international news organization aimed at publicizing his anger over what is happening in Kashmir — and it appeared to reflect his frustration at what he views as India’s intransigence.

Indian officials have described their new policy on Kashmir as a legal and internal matter that was part of an effort to improve the region’s economic prospects. They have said the deployment of armed forces was precautionary, preventive and temporary.

Echoing what he and his subordinates have said on social media and in Pakistani news outlets, Mr. Khan described Mr. Modi as a fascist and Hindu supremacist who intends to eradicate Kashmir’s mostly Muslim population and populate the region with Hindus.

“The most important thing is that eight million people’s lives are at risk. We are all worried that there is ethnic cleansing and genocide about to happen,” Mr. Khan said.

Such accusations have been dismissed as absurd by Mr. Modi’s government.

Mr. Khan spoke to The Times a day after he said he had spoken by phone with President Trump and told him of a “potentially very explosive situation” between his country and India.

Last month, Mr. Khan visited Washington and met with Mr. Trump, who said he would be willing to mediate the conflict. His offer was welcomed by Mr. Khan but has not been accepted by India.

Mr. Trump reiterated his offer on Tuesday, telling NBC News: “I’ll do the best I can to mediate or do something.”

Mr. Khan expressed concern that India might undertake a deceptive “false-flag operation” in Kashmir to try to justify military action against Pakistan. And Pakistan, he said, would be forced to respond.

“And then you are looking at two nuclear-armed countries eyeball to eyeball, and anything can happen,” he said.

“My worry is that this can escalate and for two nuclear-armed countries, it should be alarming for the world what we are facing now.”

Mr. Khan’s warnings of a wider nuclear conflagration reprised comments from Islamabad shortly after Indian warplanes infiltrated Pakistani airspace in March. Indian government officials have dismissed such warnings, claiming that Pakistan is using the threat of nuclear war to push the international community to mediate and force India into talks.

India’s nuclear weapons policy is known as “no first use,” meaning the country will not initiate the use of its arsenal in any conflict.

But last Friday, India’s defense minister, Rajnath Singh, seemed to loosen the cautious restraint that has made up the country’s nuclear weapons policy for decades, saying on Twitter that future use of its arsenal “depends on the circumstances.”

Shortly after taking office last summer, Mr. Khan reached out to India in an attempt to revive talks between the countries on a wide range of issues, including Kashmir. But Indian officials rejected Mr. Khan’s efforts with a longstanding response that they will negotiate only after Pakistan cuts ties to militant groups. Pakistan denies it has links to such groups.

With Pakistani-Indian relations in crisis, it is difficult to see how, in the foreseeable future, the countries can resume the on-again, off-again talks that have punctuated their relationship since they were partitioned in 1947.

The relationship hit a low point this year, when a Kashmiri militant crammed his car full of explosives and detonated it as he charged into an Indian paramilitary convey, killing dozens. It was the worst attack in the region in 30 years. In response, the Indian Air Force breached Pakistani airspace to launch a strike on what it said was a militant training camp operating openly on its neighbor’s soil.

Mr. Khan demanded that United Nations peacekeepers and observers be allowed in Indian-controlled Kashmir, and he repeatedly insisted that Mr. Modi intended to carry out a genocide of Kashmiri Muslims.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/world/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-imran-khan.html
 
Good interview, no option but to take the message to the world.
 
yes good interview but the NYT are not to be trusted as they are anti muslim and pro imperialism..
 
I read Imran Khan tried multiple times to reach out. He phoned Modi himself twice but said Modi while sounding arrogant agreed to keep talking. Then Khan said that he was hopeful himself that talks would go somewhere but when he went to the FATF thing he found all the while he has been trying to India he found Modi had been trying to undermine Pakistan and according to him at that point he gave up.
 
'I believe there is no point in talking to them'
I agree. think we all can apply this lesson. especially on pakpassion.

We should also stop talking to them, there is no point.
 
Really?

Stop tweeting like a maniac then. Do something and don't talk about it.

Actions will speak louder than words.
 
Really?

Stop tweeting like a maniac then. Do something and don't talk about it.

Actions will speak louder than words.

Doesn't need approval from you folks.
 
Seems Indians are desperately hoping that Pakistan make the first move so they can try to take the moral high stand and spin it to the world how Pakistan is devil incarnate
 
He doesn’t want to talk, the international community don’t care about this issue and nether side is stupid enough (or rich enough) to engage in a full blown war.

So what’s left? Ranting on Twitter?
 
Each word from Imran is like a bullet piercing through Modi and bhakat hearts. Lovely articulate interview as expected from Immy.
 
Seems Indians are desperately hoping that Pakistan make the first move so they can try to take the moral high stand and spin it to the world how Pakistan is devil incarnate

I think, India doesn't care about what Pakistan thinks or do as Pakistan is in no position to even remotely pose a threat.

China is the main worry.
 
What is Pakistan's issue if India does something in its own land?

Why so much crying and whinging?
 
Ofcourse, it's Pakistan state mandated. Facts be damned.

No! only Indian media and Indian people who believe everything coming out of India media.

Highest rated TV news personality bringing fact to Indian is Arnab, only a fool wouldn't damn his bollywood inspired lowest grade acting but, i guess, everyone needs an entertainment.
 
No! only Indian media and Indian people who believe everything coming out of India media.

Highest rated TV news personality bringing fact to Indian is Arnab, only a fool wouldn't damn his bollywood inspired lowest grade acting but, i guess, everyone needs an entertainment.

It is just that. Entertainment. People don't have time in their busy lives for current affairs and want spice.
 
It's pretty obvious Modi wouldn't be interested, he's the butcher of Gujarat after all and will now be itching to do bloodletting in Kashmir on a massive scale.
 
What is Pakistan's issue if India does something in its own land?

Why so much crying and whinging?

Here in lies the core of the entire problem.Firstly India deals with a 'law' which is nothing related to Pakistan.Secondly , every person with at the least basic common sense can understand that that law was intended to cut short a lot of unfair privileges enjoyed by a minute fraction of the population when compared to the vast majority of the rest of the entire population for decades. Naturally there does not arise an ounce of human rights violation. If any, it is the vast majority of the population that was being impartially & unfairly treated
for so long

Despite all these, this oppertunistic of the highest order has the skin toughness to utter these pucca lies . What ever respect remained I had for this biggest oppertunist .... that also has gone for ever.
 
He doesn’t want to talk, the international community don’t care about this issue and nether side is stupid enough (or rich enough) to engage in a full blown war.

So what’s left? Ranting on Twitter?

Trump talked about it again less than 24 hours ago. That after UNSC discussing it after 50 years. So much for international community not caring.
 
He doesn’t want to talk, the international community don’t care about this issue and nether side is stupid enough (or rich enough) to engage in a full blown war.

So what’s left? Ranting on Twitter?

Those rants on twitter are raising awareness about the issue. India is losing the PR war.
 
I think, India doesn't care about what Pakistan thinks or do as Pakistan is in no position to even remotely pose a threat.

China is the main worry.

Well that’s just not true.
Pakistan is very much at the forefront of all Indians.
It’s in all the news so much so that it’s Clear Indiana are absolutely obsessed with Pakistan.
Again, it’s probably down to the inferiority complex that Indians have.
 
Well that’s just not true.
Pakistan is very much at the forefront of all Indians.
It’s in all the news so much so that it’s Clear Indiana are absolutely obsessed with Pakistan.
Again, it’s probably down to the inferiority complex that Indians have.

Irony dies a thousand painful deaths everytime Indians, who camp on PP 24/7 a day, tell us they're not obsessed with Pakistan.
 
Here in lies the core of the entire problem.Firstly India deals with a 'law' which is nothing related to Pakistan.Secondly , every person with at the least basic common sense can understand that that law was intended to cut short a lot of unfair privileges enjoyed by a minute fraction of the population when compared to the vast majority of the rest of the entire population for decades. Naturally there does not arise an ounce of human rights violation. If any, it is the vast majority of the population that was being impartially & unfairly treated
for so long

Despite all these, this oppertunistic of the highest order has the skin toughness to utter these pucca lies . What ever respect remained I had for this biggest oppertunist .... that also has gone for ever.

Lies are what you're being fed, please don't blame Kaptaan if he bashes your false narrative. Indian occupied Kashmir has never enjoyed any of the unfair privileges you're proclaiming. Nothing was stopping India from developing Kashmir in the 70 years it occupied it.
 
Well that’s just not true.
Pakistan is very much at the forefront of all Indians.
It’s in all the news so much so that it’s Clear Indiana are absolutely obsessed with Pakistan.
Again, it’s probably down to the inferiority complex that Indians have.

By Indian I meant Indian government and by Pakistan I meant Pakistani government. I believe the context of china already pointed towards that.
 
Lies are what you're being fed, please don't blame Kaptaan if he bashes your false narrative. Indian occupied Kashmir has never enjoyed any of the unfair privileges you're proclaiming. Nothing was stopping India from developing Kashmir in the 70 years it occupied it.

amen ... I shall believe a Pakistani like you rather than the statements in that particular law which has been time and again revealed to the entire Indian population.Also the fate of the Kashmiri pundits too is in my mind to believe firmly in a saintly person that you are.
 
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