There is something special about this young Windies team | One to look out for in the 2019 World Cup

[Bhaijaan]

Hetmyer, Lewis, Thomas are some remarkably gifted youngsters that the West Indies have unearthed in last couple of years.


Don't go by the rankings. These boys could turn things around in 2019 world cup and smash a few teams along the way.

Definitely one to look out for.

I have not felt genuinely intimidated about a team touring India in quite a while. These young Windies guys possess the X-factor.

 

[Hasan123]

Lewis and Joseph to come in as well. Very exciting young team. They are improving as a test team. If they stick with the young talent , they will improve in ODI cricket to.

 

[Bhaijaan]

If there's a must win match in 2019 and you come across this side i am not going to be too confident. On their day they can smash you, yes.

 

[Bewal Express]

The Windies could have 11 talented players but they will still be useless as a team bar T20

 

[Bhaijaan]

The Windies could have 11 talented players but they will still be useless as a team bar T20

They're alright in LOIs too. Don't go by what Kohli/Sharma are doing to them. They'd do it to all teams.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Expect West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghansitan to upset the apple cart for more fancied teams. These 3 teams won't get to the semis because of the format but they will have a big say in deciding the SFists. Pity I can't say the same about Sri Lanka. Still some time to go, hope the Islanders get into top form by next June.

 

[wrongun]

I expect WI to struggle to beat/or be beaten by minnows at WC. They are not very good.

 

[Bewal Express]

They're alright in LOIs too. Don't go by what Kohli/Sharma are doing to them. They'd do it to all teams.

The Windies are a team without an identity- nobody wants to play for them except to get T20 contracts. The IPL has taken their season window and nobody wants to play them or watch them.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I expect WI to struggle to beat/or be beaten by minnows at WC. They are not very good.

We can bet on that. I think WI will smash the lower ranked teams like themselves and will cause a lot of issues to the top ranked teams too. Come these multi nation tourneys and there/s a different vibe to this team and the Pakistanis.

Overall i expect them to scratch and claw their way to grab the 4th semi's spot fighting with Pakistan/NZ/South Africa

 

[wrongun]

We can bet on that. I think WI will smash the lower ranked teams like themselves and will cause a lot of issues to the top ranked teams too. Come these multi nation tourneys and there/s a different vibe to this team and the Pakistanis.

Overall i expect them to scratch and claw their way to grab the 4th semi's spot fighting with Pakistan/NZ/South Africa

I'll be happy to bet they won't make the Semi Finals.

Although are you talking this "young" WI team; or anticipating the return of Gayle, Narine, Bravo, Russell?

 

[Mamoon]

This new crop of Caribbean cricketers is probably the best lot WICB has had at their disposal in over two decades - there is more to them than just T20 cricket, some of these players have serious ability for the longer formats.

However, there are far too many issues with West Indies cricket for these players to realize their talents. Some of these players would have developed into elite players under the wings of BCCI, ECB, CA and CSA.

 

[cricketindiafan]

The current crop were U-19 champions a few years back. Have to have great talent.

May not do much at 2019 WC but by 2020 WT20, will be a brute force again. A batting unit of Lewis, Powell, Hetmyer, Ambris, Russel, Pollard will destroy bowling attacks.

 

[austerlitz]

Fear this WI side in WC19.

Once this team is full strength.

Gayle
Evans
Hope
Hetmyer
Samuels
Darren bravo
random player
Holder
Gabriel
Roach
Random/Oshane/braithwaite

Could shock many big teams.Hetmyer looks a potential great.Hope is extremely solid batsman.Once they have gayle and luke evans at the top in wc anyone who take sthem lightly do so at their own peril.

 

[Executioner]

West Indies lost to a struggling BD side 2-1 in their home turf.

End of discussion.

And yes Lewis Gayle Powell Holder Russell Hope all played that series. Infact the only match we lost it was because of a death over choke were we lost 2 runs.

 

[austerlitz]

West Indies lost to a struggling BD side 2-1 in their home turf.

End of discussion.

And yes Lewis Gayle Powell Holder Russell Hope all played that series. Infact the only match we lost it was because of a death over choke were we lost 2 runs.

WI will do better than Bang in wc19.Hetmyer is the big difference.

 

[moghul]

Expect West Indies, Bangladesh and Afghansitan to upset the apple cart for more fancied teams. These 3 teams won't get to the semis because of the format but they will have a big say in deciding the SFists. Pity I can't say the same about Sri Lanka. Still some time to go, hope the Islanders get into top form by next June.

WI and BD yes, not expecting much from Afghanistan away from Asia.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Bhaijaan is two years late in realizing this.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Gayle, Narine and Pollard aren't required.

Play:

Lewis
Powell
Hope
Heytmer
Samuels
Russel
Holder
Nurse
Roach
Thomas
Gabriel

What a team. 2 90mph bowlers. Bounce with Holder. 7 bowlers. Batting to 9.

 

[rhony]

Gayle, Narine and Pollard aren't required.

Play:

Lewis
Powell
Hope
Heytmer
Samuels
Russel
Holder
Nurse
Roach
Thomas
Gabriel

What a team. 2 90mph bowlers. Bounce with Holder. 7 bowlers. Batting to 9.

They sure are. Samuels is the weak link I think. Also, Narine should play in this team.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They were never bad. THey just lacked a captain with focus to unite the side. Holder is a real keeper for them. Even if he sucks with ball and bat he should be their captain. There is a bit of Darren Ganga in him.

 

[Ahson8]

Bhaijaan is two years late in realizing this.

Gayle
Lewis
Hope
Hetmyer
Ambris / Darren Bravo
Rutherford/ R Powell / Allen
Russell
Holder
Narine / Nurse / Pierre
Roach
Thomas / Gabriel

Thoughts ?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Gayle is past by sell date. HE would click once every 10 matches. Old man. Lewis is hit or miss too.

 

[Hamza_]

Padosis and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Bhai were laughing as we lost to Windies in the UAE.

 

[Heisenberg111]

Padosis and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Bhai were laughing as we lost to Windies in the UAE.

Pakistan lost a test to the WI in UAE, but whitewashed them in ODI's.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Gayle
Lewis
Hope
Hetmyer
Ambris / Darren Bravo
Rutherford/ R Powell / Allen
Russell
Holder
Narine / Nurse / Pierre
Roach
Thomas / Gabriel

Thoughts ?

Hemraj/Powell
Lewis
Hope
Hetmyer
Ambris
Holder
Russel
Nurse
Joseph
Gabriel
Thomas

 

[jnaveen1980]

Padosis and [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] Bhai were laughing as we lost to Windies in the UAE.

Nobody will be shocked to lose a match to West Indies in shorter formats. Apart from England and NZ they won atleast one match against all the opposition in the last 2 years.

 

[Ahson8]

Hemraj/Powell
Lewis
Hope
Hetmyer
Ambris
Holder
Russel
Nurse
Joseph
Gabriel
Thomas

Hmm longer tail, but better bowling attack.
Do you rate Rutherford ? He seems to have a very good hand-eye coordination. Good hitter

 

[Justcrazy]

Hmm longer tail, but better bowling attack.
Do you rate Rutherford ? He seems to have a very good hand-eye coordination. Good hitter

Tail is too long for OD cricket.

 

[MMHS]

Indeed they are looking a great potential side. May be exclusion of some of those mercenaries has actually helped the team to focus on their game. And, good news is that, the weak link is a veteran (Samules), rather than a youngster.

They need one solid opener to partner Evin Lewis, then Hope & Hetmyer makes a solid top 4. If Russell comes back at 7, Holder is probably the best fast bowling all-rounder these days at 8; then Nurse & 2 specialist fast bowlers, makes a solid bottom half. Need couple of batsmen for No. 5 & 6 - may be time to recall Darren Bravo, his ODI stats are not great, but one senior player is required in middle order. For No. 6, I'll take Roston Chase - exceptionally good List A record and he can bowl a bit. Rakeem Cornwall is also a great prospect. If Hope can open (& keep), they can add one more batsman in middle order, but for ENG, I'll pick Brathwaite as opener.

1. Lewis
2. Brathwaite
3. Hope+
4. Hetmyer
5. Bravo
6. Chase/Cornwall
7. Russell
8. Holder*
9. Nurse
10. Roach
11. Pacer (Joseph/Paul/Thomas/Gabriel ..)

Good team.

 

[Hasan123]

Indeed they are looking a great potential side. May be exclusion of some of those mercenaries has actually helped the team to focus on their game. And, good news is that, the weak link is a veteran (Samules), rather than a youngster.

They need one solid opener to partner Evin Lewis, then Hope & Hetmyer makes a solid top 4. If Russell comes back at 7, Holder is probably the best fast bowling all-rounder these days at 8; then Nurse & 2 specialist fast bowlers, makes a solid bottom half. Need couple of batsmen for No. 5 & 6 - may be time to recall Darren Bravo, his ODI stats are not great, but one senior player is required in middle order. For No. 6, I'll take Roston Chase - exceptionally good List A record and he can bowl a bit. Rakeem Cornwall is also a great prospect. If Hope can open (& keep), they can add one more batsman in middle order, but for ENG, I'll pick Brathwaite as opener.

1. Lewis
2. Brathwaite
3. Hope+
4. Hetmyer
5. Bravo
6. Chase/Cornwall
7. Russell
8. Holder*
9. Nurse
10. Roach
11. Pacer (Joseph/Paul/Thomas/Gabriel ..)

Good team.

Kraigg Braithwaite? He isn't a LO player . Lacks shot range. Rest of the team seems fine.

 

[MMHS]

Kraigg Braithwaite? He isn't a LO player . Lacks shot range. Rest of the team seems fine.

Not much options available actually - I don't want Gayle back in this team. One option is to open with Hope & play another WK at 6, promoting everyone up by one slot, but that's also doesn't look bright. Or may be Hope opens & keeps, while Cornwall bats at 6.

Brathwaite's List A average is close to 40 (over 45 excluding few ODIs), which is great for the WIN domestics, and he makes a nice left-right opening pair. Other openers that WIN is trying have stats like 30/60 in List A cricket. For WC in UK, at least he can play a proper opener's role - SR isn't the biggest issue for WIN, because if openers can set a platform, they have enough fire power from No. 4 to 9; Lewis also can blast at the top.

 

[Ahson8]

Not much options available actually - I don't want Gayle back in this team. One option is to open with Hope & play another WK at 6, promoting everyone up by one slot, but that's also doesn't look bright. Or may be Hope opens & keeps, while Cornwall bats at 6.

Brathwaite's List A average is close to 40 (over 45 excluding few ODIs), which is great for the WIN domestics, and he makes a nice left-right opening pair. Other openers that WIN is trying have stats like 30/60 in List A cricket. For WC in UK, at least he can play a proper opener's role - SR isn't the biggest issue for WIN, because if openers can set a platform, they have enough fire power from No. 4 to 9; Lewis also can blast at the top.

Maybe try Rutherford as an opener. I think Fabian Allen played in top order in CPL too.
Realistically though, Gayle will probably play the World Cup

 

[MMHS]

Maybe try Rutherford as an opener. I think Fabian Allen played in top order in CPL too.
Realistically though, Gayle will probably play the World Cup

I think, both Rutherford & Allen has potential, but they are too young for WC. Also, T20 performance might not be transferred into ODI so early by these young players. Brathwaite at least has 9K FC runs & close to 2K list A runs, and he has nice 5-6 years of International experience behind him.

CG will come back - that was probably one condition he agreed to play for them in Qualifiers, otherwise he would have been in PSL.

 

[Hasan123]

Not much options available actually - I don't want Gayle back in this team. One option is to open with Hope & play another WK at 6, promoting everyone up by one slot, but that's also doesn't look bright. Or may be Hope opens & keeps, while Cornwall bats at 6.

Brathwaite's List A average is close to 40 (over 45 excluding few ODIs), which is great for the WIN domestics, and he makes a nice left-right opening pair. Other openers that WIN is trying have stats like 30/60 in List A cricket. For WC in UK, at least he can play a proper opener's role - SR isn't the biggest issue for WIN, because if openers can set a platform, they have enough fire power from No. 4 to 9; Lewis also can blast at the top.

He struggles with strike rotation. Doesn't look like a LO player .

 

[Saurav]

Narine
Lewis
Hope
Hetmyer
Bravo
Holder
Russell
Nurse
Bishoo
Roach
Joseph

This looks a dangerous team indeed

 

[Saurav]

Not much options available actually - I don't want Gayle back in this team. One option is to open with Hope & play another WK at 6, promoting everyone up by one slot, but that's also doesn't look bright. Or may be Hope opens & keeps, while Cornwall bats at 6.

Brathwaite's List A average is close to 40 (over 45 excluding few ODIs), which is great for the WIN domestics, and he makes a nice left-right opening pair. Other openers that WIN is trying have stats like 30/60 in List A cricket. For WC in UK, at least he can play a proper opener's role - SR isn't the biggest issue for WIN, because if openers can set a platform, they have enough fire power from No. 4 to 9; Lewis also can blast at the top.

You are talking about this Braithwaite right
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/348024.html

ODI average 27 and SR 69

Surely suggests SR issues

 

[BDfanforever]

They were basically swept by BD only couple of months ago. All of a sudden they are something to watch out for, lol.

 

[MMHS]

You are talking about this Braithwaite right
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/348024.html

ODI average 27 and SR 69

Surely suggests SR issues

His SR in ODI is actually 58.

I know, that explanation and reason is given there as well. Main point is unless they call back CG, there is not much option left - you should check few other stats also. This guy, at least has a good List A stats, which suggests given more than 10 ODI's, he has the chance to improve that stats, looks proper opener as well.
[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

 

[The Viper]

You are talking about this Braithwaite right
http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/player/348024.html

ODI average 27 and SR 69

Surely suggests SR issues

He has 38 average in List A which he was talking about not ODI.

 

[The Viper]

Although he has already played a few games and he seems too slow. Could play the anchor role though.

 

[MMHS]

They were basically swept by BD only couple of months ago. All of a sudden they are something to watch out for, lol.

They lost 2-1, could have been 3-0, but it was never a sweep - games were close and we had the experience in Tamim, Shakib, Mushi, Mash to respond in key moments. Any other given series, this 2-1 could have been 1-2 or even 0-3 as well.

They are actually better unit in this series against a full strength IND team at their home; which is commanding. Take out Kohli, WIN would have smashed IND in 5 game series, therefore they have moved quite well from that BD series.

Here, I think we are talking about WC, where their attack will be much better than ours and batting gap will be closed significantly, therefore being excited for WIN isn't unrealistic. The way they are playing, unless few things go against them on the match day, they'll smash PAK, SRL, AFG in UK, probably us as well - that leaves just one win against IND, AUS, NZ, SAF & ENG - they are in SF. After that 2 good days and players like Hetmyer, Russell, Gayle are inconsistent, but their peck is decisive for such KO games.

Never underestimate WIN, naturally most gifted sports nation around and they have rich history to take motivation from. Law is leaving, but if they can hire a top pro before WC, they'll surprise many teams (and might smash us in next ODI series )

 

[Saurav]

His SR in ODI is actually 58.

I know, that explanation and reason is given there as well. Main point is unless they call back CG, there is not much option left - you should check few other stats also. This guy, at least has a good List A stats, which suggests given more than 10 ODI's, he has the chance to improve that stats, looks proper opener as well.
[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

They can go for a makeshift opener.Lot of teams use that option.Someone like Lendl Simmons who has opened in IPL.I know different format,but SR has become significant factor now

 

[BDfanforever]

They were basically swept by BD only couple of months ago. All of a sudden they are something to watch out for, lol.

With that being said, WI is a exciting team to watch as a neutral when they play good like how they are playing against IND at the moment. Players like Hetmeyer chews gum and hits sixes for fun.

 

[MMHS]

They can go for a makeshift opener.Lot of teams use that option.Someone like Lendl Simmons who has opened in IPL.I know different format,but SR has become significant factor now

Definitely an option. LS will be 34 by next WC, but indeed he can be a god option, better than what they have now. Don't think WIN differentiates ODI & T20 much , therefore transition won't be that difficult. Better option than carrying Samules.

 

[MMHS]

I am actually excited about WIN, not for today's win, but probably in last 30 years, for the first time I see a true West Indian Captain in Holder. I have bashed the guy as Captain in his early days, but now he is truly their leader & in charge - a shed of the great man Lloyd (no comparison), who was also almost got sacked after 1-5 in AUS at the start.

Talent was never an issue for them and they are the most naturally gifted sportsman, physically strongest and mentally relaxed players. They are just 1 batting & 1 bowling leader away from being a world class LO team (sadly which Gayle & Narine never tried to be). From their show in this series in IND, they are actually peaking at right time - next 7-8 months, this young side will get lots of experience and like PAK, they are only team whose game is better suited in away (AUS/SAF/UK) wickets than home.

If this upward trend continues, I'll put them ahead of any Asian side to make the SF to be honest - batsmen like Hetmyer can only come from WIN, flamboyance personified.

 

[Tusker]

I am actually excited about WIN, not for today's win, but probably in last 30 years, for the first time I see a true West Indian Captain in Holder. I have bashed the guy as Captain in his early days, but now he is truly their leader & in charge - a shed of the great man Lloyd (no comparison), who was also almost got sacked after 1-5 in AUS at the start.

Talent was never an issue for them and they are the most naturally gifted sportsman, physically strongest and mentally relaxed players. They are just 1 batting & 1 bowling leader away from being a world class LO team (sadly which Gayle & Narine never tried to be). From their show in this series in IND, they are actually peaking at right time - next 7-8 months, this young side will get lots of experience and like PAK, they are only team whose game is better suited in away (AUS/SAF/UK) wickets than home.

If this upward trend continues, I'll put them ahead of any Asian side to make the SF to be honest - batsmen like Hetmyer can only come from WIN, flamboyance personified.

yup ... genuinely happy for the WI Team ..... even though they beat us today and tied in the last match. World cricket has badly missed a strong WI team. Also genuinely nice guys.

 

[hafizexpress]

Where's Jason Mohammed last I remember he won an ODi game against Pak last year?

 

[Hasan123]

His SR in ODI is actually 58.

I know, that explanation and reason is given there as well. Main point is unless they call back CG, there is not much option left - you should check few other stats also. This guy, at least has a good List A stats, which suggests given more than 10 ODI's, he has the chance to improve that stats, looks proper opener as well.
[MENTION=141114]Hasan123[/MENTION]

Don't see him developing into a good ODI player. May have to try Hope as a opener and put another middle order player in.

But I do agree with you that this team is something to be excited about and I have said for a while they have potential to be competitive and a good team.

Very happy for West Indies.

 

[Godhelpma]

They were basically swept by BD only couple of months ago. All of a sudden they are something to watch out for, lol.

WI pichtes are slow now-a- days much more like BD ones and supports slow bowlers and you guys have plenty of those slow bowlers . That is the reason BD won ODI series . Play against them in any country barring (BD,WI, UAE) and BD will lose 7 out of 10 times.

 

[docteurmanish]

didnt i say wi vs eng final ...

 

[Gabbar Singh]

One day they play like world beaters and the next they play like some associate side. They certainly have lots of potential and are a talented group of players however I think the 2019 WC will come too soon for them.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

There is nothing special about this young Windies team | Not one to look out for in the 2019 World Cup

 

[Bhaijaan]

They are up against the best in the world. India is capable of making some quality teams look absolutely trash in their yard. [MENTION=7898]Gabbar Singh[/MENTION]

 

[latecut]

There is nothing special about this young Windies team | Not one to look out for in the 2019 World Cup

They are made to look ordinary by India. They will look unstoppable when they play their next matches- which will be against the self styled Powerhouse team.

 

[Kohli The King of Chase]

They are made to look ordinary by India. They will look unstoppable when they play their next matches- which will be against the self styled Powerhouse team.

Yet they lost at home to Bangladesh, who themselves are a nothing team.