"This is your team, this is your pride. This is your Pakistan, so support us" : Shaheen Shah Afridi

[Abdullah719]

"This is your team, this is your pride. This is your Pakistan, so support us" : Shaheen Shah Afridi

The 19-year-old rattled the Kiwis with a sensational burst

At first sight, it is not possible to guess Shaheen Afridi’s age. The youngster looks somewhere between 15 and 18, but smiles and says: “I am 19.”

Born on April 6, 2000 in the Khyber region of Pakistan, Shaheen can speak Pashto with ease, but is more comfortable with Urdu and Hindi these days.

Playing his third World Cup match for Pakistan, Shaheen proved lethal, scalping three for 28 against New Zealand at Edgbaston on Wednesday. “You can say that today’s performance was good,” he says to a handful of Indian and Pakistani scribes.

Support us

The youngster is just nine months old in international cricket, and obviously, he doesn’t have much idea about how ugly the criticism can get when the team fares poorly.

“I want to tell the fans to support us. This is your team, this is your pride. This is your Pakistan, so support us.”

Shaheen reveals that the senior players protected the juniors “thoroughly’ after the defeat against India. “All the senior players guided us. It is sad if you start criticising after one or two games. This should not be done. This is your team and in sport, there will be wins and losses,” he says.

Being a left-arm quick, Shaheen admires Wasim Akram. He spoke to the pace great ahead of the game against New Zealand.

Hit the raw line

“I speak to Wasim bhai over phone and whenever he is around, I get to learn a lot from him. I discuss a lot of things,” says Shaheen. Akram was at Edgbaston as a commentator for the game.

“He was telling me that with your swing, hit the raw line. I did just that,” the young gun says.

Coming from a family which has produced another cricketer — Riaz Afridi, who played a lone Test for Pakistan — Shaheen had a fair idea about the road ahead even at an early age.

Being a part of the Pakistan under-19 side last year, Shaheen took time to settle down in the senior ranks, but is grateful to bowling coach Azhar Mahmood.

“Working with Azzu bhai at the nets has helped me. I have learnt a lot from him. All credit to him.”

Similar script

At a time when there is talk of the uncanny resemblance between Pakistan’s 1992 World Cup-winning campaign and the current one, Shaheen isn’t bothered about it.

“In 1992, I was not even born,” he jokes.

“Our target will be to ensure that the team does well and wins the World Cup.”

https://www.thehindu.com/sport/cric...onders-for-shaheen-afridi/article28191214.ece

 

[MenInG]

Lovely message from Shaheen Shah Afridi.

Hope that NZ performance was turning point in his World Cup campaign

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

Need NZ or Ind to do favor for pak.

Im not too convinced with ind middle order.

 

[Mueez]

One for the future.

Hopefully he doesn’t fade away like other promising players.

 

[Leeon1994]

I don't get it why every Pak player pushes us to support them all the time no matter what, Ben Stokes

Indians do not/did not support the Indian team when they made blunders and this is the reason they are at the top in every aspect of Cricket be it bowling, fielding or batting.

 

[JaDed]

Need NZ or Ind to do favor for pak.

Im not too convinced with ind middle order.

Neither are Indians

 

[Titan24]

Good words from Shaheen.

 

[Titan24]

Hit the raw line

“I speak to Wasim bhai over phone and whenever he is around, I get to learn a lot from him. I discuss a lot of things,” says Shaheen. Akram was at Edgbaston as a commentator for the game.

“He was telling me that with your swing, hit the raw line. I did just that,” the young gun says.

Question is why wasn’t Azhar telling the same thing? If he was telling why didnt it had the same effect?

 

[Markhor]

Bowling a fuller length made the difference for Shaheen v NZ.

 

[shahidafridi123]

https://youtu.be/n95QW9xWitU?t=146

Listen from 2:26. He talks about him trying to bowl both outswing and inswing, and that is why he was struggling.

 

[FreePalestine]

Good comments. Some people saying he is moaning unnecessarily about public criticism but we all saw that clip of Sarfraz being abused by a fan when he was with his daughter and heard Shoaib Akhtar’s crude comments on tv. They have said criticizing their cricket is fine, but don’t abuse their families or make personal attacks. I think this is pretty reasonable of them. Fans should control their worst impulses better.

 

[Syed1]

That statement is like that of someone with captaincy potential. I've been one of those who have been criticizing him for his performances in the last 7-10 matches, but he surely shut us up in this match. Long may it continue, think listening to Wasim Akram and ignoring "bowling coach" Azhar Mahmood might have something to do with it. Finally he pitched it in the right areas and made the batsman look like deer caught in the headlights.

 

[PakLFC]

Supporters need to see the team making an effort on the field. It is hard to support a side when rumours persist of them visiting nightclubs or sheesha bars a night before the match. Do whatever you want in your private life but not a day before a crucial match.

 

[topspin]

Supporters need to see the team making an effort on the field. It is hard to support a side when rumours persist of them visiting nightclubs or sheesha bars a night before the match. Do whatever you want in your private life but not a day before a crucial match.

They're too timid to go to nightclubs, also not sure they have the moves, after consuming so much mutton ghost, to pull it off on the dance floor.

 

[aukhan]

Good message from Shaheen. He needs to be consistent now with his line and length. Best of luck against Afghanistan.

 

[JaDed]

Hit the raw line

“I speak to Wasim bhai over phone and whenever he is around, I get to learn a lot from him. I discuss a lot of things,” says Shaheen. Akram was at Edgbaston as a commentator for the game.

“He was telling me that with your swing, hit the raw line. I did just that,” the young gun says.

Question is why wasn’t Azhar telling the same thing? If he was telling why didnt it had the same effect?

Wasim analyzes way more , Wasim wasn't a bits and pieces players and Shaheen is already developed so Wasim found out his issue and helped him on that.
Azhar probably is more overall kinda bowling coach and it’s possible for him to have a diff plan.

 

[PakLFC]

They're too timid to go to nightclubs, also not sure they have the moves, after consuming so much mutton ghost, to pull it off on the dance floor.

The old guard like Akram, Shoaib Akhtar and Ejaz Ahmed were proper clubbers and gamblers, perhaps things have changed now. Don't need to be a good dancer to sit in an incredibly noisy atmosphere As long as they perform when wearing the green I care little of what they do when off duty. They represent us fans once the hilaali is put on!

 

[Titan24]

Wasim analyzes way more , Wasim wasn't a bits and pieces players and Shaheen is already developed so Wasim found out his issue and helped him on that.
Azhar probably is more overall kinda bowling coach and it’s possible for him to have a diff plan.

True. I hope sense prevails in PCB in future and we dont opt for all rounder as bowling coach. Azhar must be working really hard with the boys but he cant teach them what he himself doesnt know and also how to transfer the knowledge in a proper way.

I dont mind him having different plans but plans are supposed to be leading to success if they are not then you are failing at your job.

 

[topspin]

The old guard like Akram, Shoaib Akhtar and Ejaz Ahmed were proper clubbers and gamblers, perhaps things have changed now. Don't need to be a good dancer to sit in an incredibly noisy atmosphere As long as they perform when wearing the green I care little of what they do when off duty. They represent us fans once the hilaali is put on!

That generation really did live it up.

 

[hadi123]

Delighted with him. He's like a cute baby!

 

[Majestic_Inzi]

Neither are Indians

Was Shankar the best player they could find in India? Many more better batsmen playing in India than him.

 

[Aaaaa]

He spoke to WA for 15 minutes and decimated the opposition....
What are the PCB hired coaches doing.

 

[nam]

I believe Indian and Pakistani fans and media need to learn how to support their stars. When they are down we really grind them too much and when they are on top we hype them to no extent. We should keep things at a certain level.

 

[Gullycricket]

This kind of statements are aimed at Shoiab Akhtar,Kamran Akmal,Tanvir Ahmad,Malik lobby etc who just try to further their agenda and get happy when we lose.

 

[Mamoon]

Criticizing after one or two bad games? What is our ODI ranking and what has been our W/L ratio against the top sides in the last two years?

Our players and management simply don’t realize how mediocre we have been for very long. About time the media is honest with them and shows them the mirror.

 

[Syed1]

Criticizing after one or two bad games? What is our ODI ranking and what has been our W/L ratio against the top sides in the last two years?

Our players and management simply don’t realize how mediocre we have been for very long. About time the media is honest with them and shows them the mirror.

Better to have a W/L of 0 and still do well at the WC than to have a W/L of a 100 and be beaten by everyone and their aunt at the WC.



However, you are only posting to get some attention and you are getting it as well so objectivity isn't expected. Carry on.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Quality guy . I love his attitude so far atleast. No nonsense either on or off the pitch. He's only 19 too. Definitely the most talented Pakistani bowler to debut since Aamir.

 

[Mamoon]

Better to have a W/L of 0 and still do well at the WC than to have a W/L of a 100 and be beaten by everyone and their aunt at the WC.



However, you are only posting to get some attention and you are getting it as well so objectivity isn't expected. Carry on.

We are hopping on one leg to make the semifinals and have to pray that other results go our way as well.

Also, we are so miserable that we are left with no choice but to support India against England. Do you call this “doing well”? No wonder we are a mediocre team if this is our expectations of “doing well”.

England have 1 more point than us in the same number of games, and they are acting as if they sky has fallen over them. This is how elite teams respond to inconsistent performances, while we call it “doing well”.

 

[Xoib]

Mamoon has a point here how can Syed1 say we have done well we are relying on other team results to go through this shows we have been below par and hence has to rely on other teams slipping up to go ahead.

 

[Boi]

Mamoon has a point here how can Syed1 say we have done well we are relying on other team results to go through this shows we have been below par and hence has to rely on other teams slipping up to go ahead.

Things would be slightly different if the Sri Lanka game wasn’t a washout. We lost out on momentum and a crucial point.

 

[iPakistani]

We are hopping on one leg to make the semifinals and have to pray that other results go our way as well.

Also, we are so miserable that we are left with no choice but to support India against England. Do you call this “doing well”? No wonder we are a mediocre team if this is our expectations of “doing well”.

England have 1 more point than us in the same number of games, and they are acting as if they sky has fallen over them. This is how elite teams respond to inconsistent performances, while we call it “doing well”.

We know we're mediocre, we're 6th in the rankings. However, still we have a higher chance of making the semi-finals compared to England who you rave about and were tournament favourites. We won the CT17 and now again we're going to the semis of the world-cup (inshallah). Keep bashing us about our performance in bilaterals it's fine, we show up at major tournaments unlike England.

 

[Mamoon]

We know we're mediocre, we're 6th in the rankings. However, still we have a higher chance of making the semi-finals compared to England who you rave about and were tournament favourites. We won the CT17 and now again we're going to the semis of the world-cup (inshallah). Keep bashing us about our performance in bilaterals it's fine, we show up at major tournaments unlike England.

Don’t get too ahead of yourself. Pakistan’s chances are slimmer than England’s even at this point, and our capitulation against West Indies has ensured that New Zealand will most likely beat us on NRR as well.

 

[iPakistani]

Don’t get too ahead of yourself. Pakistan’s chances are slimmer than England’s even at this point, and our capitulation against West Indies has ensured that New Zealand will most likely beat us on NRR as well.

Fair enough, who do you reckon will get that 4th spot?

 

[Mamoon]

Fair enough, who do you reckon will get that 4th spot?

I don’t think the top four will change. The order might, but Australia, India, England and New Zealand should be the last four teams.

Pakistan were always walking on a tightrope after their stunt against West Indies in the first game. It completely butchered their NRR and they have been playing catch-up since.

 

[m.shah]

I don’t think the top four will change. The order might, but Australia, India, England and New Zealand should be the last four teams.

Pakistan were always walking on a tightrope after their stunt against West Indies in the first game. It completely butchered their NRR and they have been playing catch-up since.

Yup absolutely that windies game will be costly for pak

 

[Rana]

Don’t get too ahead of yourself. Pakistan’s chances are slimmer than England’s even at this point, and our capitulation against West Indies has ensured that New Zealand will most likely beat us on NRR as well.

Pakistan lost 3 v WI, IND, AUS
England lost 3 v AUS, PAK, SL

Pakistan to play AFG, BAN (The sides that Pakistan should beat and rave about their mediocrity
England to play IND, NZ (Elite sides that Pakistan could not beat)

How are Pakistan's chances slimmer than England's in this case Einstein?

 

[Rana]

What some people fail to understand here is,

INDIA WILL KNOCK ENGLAND OUT AND LOOK FOR AN EASY SEMI AGAINST PAKISTAN

 

[Slog]

Hit the raw line

“I speak to Wasim bhai over phone and whenever he is around, I get to learn a lot from him. I discuss a lot of things,” says Shaheen. Akram was at Edgbaston as a commentator for the game.

“He was telling me that with your swing, hit the raw line. I did just that,” the young gun says.

Question is why wasn’t Azhar telling the same thing? If he was telling why didnt it had the same effect?

So Amir is going toAsif Bajwa. Shaheen is going to Wasim Akram

What the heck is Azhar there for anyway

 

[Slog]

I don’t think the top four will change. The order might, but Australia, India, England and New Zealand should be the last four teams.

Pakistan were always walking on a tightrope after their stunt against West Indies in the first game. It completely butchered their NRR and they have been playing catch-up since.

More than WI, the SL washout is really killing us. That was certain win imo. They don’t have the team to beat us in ODIs and usually lose to us in ICC events

Pak will always have one stinker in an ICC event and we’ve always been WI’s bunny in WCs (2007,2015,1992,1975,1987).

 

[Mamoon]

Pakistan lost 3 v WI, IND, AUS
England lost 3 v AUS, PAK, SL

Pakistan to play AFG, BAN (The sides that Pakistan should beat and rave about their mediocrity
England to play IND, NZ (Elite sides that Pakistan could not beat)

How are Pakistan's chances slimmer than England's in this case Einstein?

On paper, it looks like England are done because they are playing India and New Zealand while we are playing Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

However, in my opinion, England will rise to the occasion in the last two matches. If Roy is back and firing and they can get the coward Moeen to perform, things don’t look too bad for them.

India are also due a bad game, and New Zealand cannot beat England at Chester-le-Street.

 

[Mamoon]

More than WI, the SL washout is really killing us. That was certain win imo. They don’t have the team to beat us in ODIs and usually lose to us in ICC events

Pak will always have one stinker in an ICC event and we’ve always been WI’s bunny in WCs (2007,2015,1992,1975,1987).

We can only go by the games that were played. India vs New Zealand could have changed the scenario as well, and if definitely benefited/harmed a few teams. Losing to West Indies in 13.4 overs was a complete and utter disaster.

 

[Usman Chadda]

On paper, it looks like England are done because they are playing India and New Zealand while we are playing Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

However, in my opinion, England will rise to the occasion in the last two matches. If Roy is back and firing and they can get the coward Moeen to perform, things don’t look too bad for them.

India are also due a bad game, and New Zealand cannot beat England at Chester-le-Street.

Man the amount of excuses you make for teams other than your country, and then make statements about supporting Pakistan. Bus kardo ye besharmi ab )

 

[Mamoon]

Man the amount of excuses you make for teams other than your country, and then make statements about supporting Pakistan. Bus kardo ye besharmi ab )

I am not supporting Pakistan in this World Cup.

 

[Usman Chadda]

I am not supporting Pakistan in this World Cup.

'In this World Cup'? You haven't supported Pakistan ever, and neither does this team need the support of someone like you

 

[Mamoon]

'In this World Cup'? You haven't supported Pakistan ever, and neither does this team need the support of someone like you

Criticism doesn’t mean I don’t support. Anyway, you can believe what you want to believe.

 

[hitthestump]

I wish this country would get over this 'senior' obsession.

When Babar dedicated his NZ century to Hafeez Bhai's words of wisdom in the middle i cringed hard.

It's almost as if these young players are fearful of stepping on the wrong toes or they'll be out of the team.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I wish this country would get over this 'senior' obsession.

When Babar dedicated his NZ century to Hafeez Bhai's words of wisdom in the middle i cringed hard.

It's almost as if these young players are fearful of stepping on the wrong toes or they'll be out of the team.

Yet Hafeez is still a better player of pace than everyone in the team apart from maybe Babar and Harris. His potential is immense, even at 40. Yes, he's struggled against Steyn but that's more of a mental block.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Hit the raw line

“I speak to Wasim bhai over phone and whenever he is around, I get to learn a lot from him. I discuss a lot of things,” says Shaheen. Akram was at Edgbaston as a commentator for the game.

“He was telling me that with your swing, hit the raw line. I did just that,” the young gun says.

Question is why wasn’t Azhar telling the same thing? If he was telling why didnt it had the same effect?

Cause when someone great tells you something, it's hard to ignore that.
Similar case would be, if Ijaz Ahmad tells Babar to play with a straight bat and Younis tells him the same thing, he is more likely to gain confidence from the bigger one. The sad thing is, sometimes our players don't put much confidence in our coaches words and plans.

 

[Kroll]

I hear what you're saying Shaheen, it is our team - the fans but sadly all too often it is handed to the seniors and the friends united for their own personal amusement and consumption.

 

[Rana]

On paper, it looks like England are done because they are playing India and New Zealand while we are playing Afghanistan and Bangladesh.

However, in my opinion, England will rise to the occasion in the last two matches. If Roy is back and firing and they can get the coward Moeen to perform, things don’t look too bad for them.

India are also due a bad game, and New Zealand cannot beat England at Chester-le-Street.

England should not lose to Pakistan at Trent Bridge, yet they did.

India are due a bad game, so it has to be against England? Kohli is due a hundred. Rohit is due a double ton. India can open the bowling with Kuldeep or Chahal and they will skittle the English top order

 

[Mamoon]

England should not lose to Pakistan at Trent Bridge, yet they did.

India are due a bad game, so it has to be against England? Kohli is due a hundred. Rohit is due a double ton. India can open the bowling with Kuldeep or Chahal and they will skittle the English top order

The problem is that India doesn’t have to underperform to lose to England, who are fully capable of beating India even if the latter brings their A game.

 

[Rana]

The problem is that India doesn’t have to underperform to lose to England, who are fully capable of beating India even if the latter brings their A game.

I don’t understand where you are coming from? India bringing their A game means Kohli and Rohit chasing the total down on their own even if it’s 350, or take India very close to it. The second meaning of it is Bumrah and Shami causing a nightmare for Roy, Bairstow and Root. The third meaning is the spinners weaving a web around the English batsmen who historically are poor against spin.

 

[Mamoon]

I don’t understand where you are coming from? India bringing their A game means Kohli and Rohit chasing the total down on their own even if it’s 350, or take India very close to it. The second meaning of it is Bumrah and Shami causing a nightmare for Roy, Bairstow and Root. The third meaning is the spinners weaving a web around the English batsmen who historically are poor against spin.

England and India are equally good. If both produce their best cricket, it will be a close fought game. There is a reason why they are the top 2 teams.

 

[Rana]

England and India are equally good. If both produce their best cricket, it will be a close fought game. There is a reason why they are the top 2 teams.

Yet England have lost to Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Australia. Whereas India will beat all three. In this World Cup, England’s home advantage has only applied against Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Only these 2 teams were blasted out of the park because of their weak bowling attacks. England did ok against South Africa as has everyone else.

England won’t score more than 240 against Bumrah, Shami, Kuldeep who will bring their A game to knock England out of the WC

The only guys they will get runs against is Hardik and Vijay Shankar

 

[Stewie]

I don't get it why every Pak player pushes us to support them all the time no matter what, Ben Stokes

Indians do not/did not support the Indian team when they made blunders and this is the reason they are at the top in every aspect of Cricket be it bowling, fielding or batting.

Not a good comparison. This is a subcontinental thing. Most other countries don’t pelt their national sportsmen with aloo Tamatar for bad performance. It’s sports and some you win some you lose. Our guys should be commended for being competitive given where they come from and the sort of system they go through.

 

[Titan24]

Cause when someone great tells you something, it's hard to ignore that.
Similar case would be, if Ijaz Ahmad tells Babar to play with a straight bat and Younis tells him the same thing, he is more likely to gain confidence from the bigger one. The sad thing is, sometimes our players don't put much confidence in our coaches words and plans.

Yes definitely can be the case. Azhar, Graham, Mickey (Outside of SA) were neither great coaches nor big players. You need atleast one thing to have any positive impact on Pakistani players.

 

[farazaidi]

So far ...

England have defeated SA, BANG, AFG & WI

Pakistan have defeated SA, NZ & ENG

Apparently, England deserve to be in the semis and we dont.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Criticism doesn’t mean I don’t support. Anyway, you can believe what you want to believe.

Do this team a favour and stop supporting it altogether. Maybe they'll have a change of fortunes when they're rid off good for nothing fans like you.

 

[Stewie]

Do this team a favour and stop supporting it altogether. Maybe they'll have a change of fortunes when they're rid off good for nothing fans like you.

Chadda saab be dil ki baat ker di... bravo!!

 

[shaz619]

Totally agree with him, sadly more fans give the team badwah and evil eye, also excessive abuse. I wish all pak fans were from Birmingham so they show genuine passion and support through thick and thin, before the NZ game as I was busy I made sure my relatives attended and kept pushing as many friends possible to go, meanwhile while I was down after the past performances I thought to myself it doesn't matter if we win or lose today, this is our swansong and am going to buy my NOW TV stream for Pak v NZ and support the team like a cornered tiger clearly this helps the team so much more to

 

[zamana]

Don’t get too ahead of yourself. Pakistan’s chances are slimmer than England’s even at this point, and our capitulation against West Indies has ensured that New Zealand will most likely beat us on NRR as well.

I think one should always have an optimistic approach. Pakistan has a good chance of winning against both Afg and BD and in the process improve the NRR. Both NZ and Eng are in a challenging position. They both have tough games ahead of them and a SF slot is up for grabs. Pakistan is gaining momentum while some of the other teams are regressing. This is the beauty of this format. One has to appreciate the dedication, vigor and commitment of the Pakistan Team and take pride in their resurgence. In the ultimate analysis, it is just a sport and you cannot win all the time. However, the effort has to be consistent and to the fullest potential. Good Luck Pakistan!

 

[zamana]

How can you come up with this conclusion? What about the rained out game against SL? We could have won it. If Pakistan wins the next 2 games and Eng only wins 1 out of its 2 games, then England is out! So before you pass judgement , please let all the games conclude.
Pak defeated Eng and should therefore have greater legitimacy for the SF, if we are arbitrarily awarding the SF positions.

 

[NA]

If Pak wins the next two then whether they qualify for the semis or not, I'd be quite happy with the team performance. There's no shame in getting eliminated from semis on NRR, and beating two of the four semi-final teams in the group stages.

Now, if they do reach the semis, it'd be amazing and any cricket fan will have to tip the hat for Pakistan team, and they will be there because they were among the top four teams in the tournament and not because of this ridiculous notion that "they'd do so because the other results went their way".

Let's just win one game and then the next.

 

[sshakir411]

His comment is probably aimed at that Usman dude who was boasting about how he confronted Shaheen for eating a burger and not having a proper diet.

Glad to see Shaheen find some form. Hope the rest of his games are good as well.

 

[barca_chokers]

has a good and calm head on his young shoulders

 

[Slim]

Always rated Shaheen. Good to see him come back and show his worth. I am not his biggest supporter for nothing.

 

[Mamoon]

Yet England have lost to Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Australia. Whereas India will beat all three. In this World Cup, England’s home advantage has only applied against Afghanistan and Bangladesh. Only these 2 teams were blasted out of the park because of their weak bowling attacks. England did ok against South Africa as has everyone else.

England won’t score more than 240 against Bumrah, Shami, Kuldeep who will bring their A game to knock England out of the WC

The only guys they will get runs against is Hardik and Vijay Shankar

India have the best bowling attack but England have the best batting lineup that is capable of nullifying the former. That is why it is tough to call between those two teams, because both have the arsenal to negate the strengths of the opposition. Looks like it only took a few bad games for people to start treating England like a run-of-the-mill outfit, while the same folks who used to call India's bowling overrated are now drooling.

India will start as favourites, but only because they are high on confidence and England will be under immense pressure. However, in terms of skills and abilities, there is nothing that separates the two sides.

 

[Mean&Green]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] this message is for you if you’re an actual Pakistani atleast support your Pathan brother for once if not Pakistan

 

[hur rizvi]

India have the best bowling attack but England have the best batting lineup that is capable of nullifying the former. That is why it is tough to call between those two teams, because both have the arsenal to negate the strengths of the opposition. Looks like it only took a few bad games for people to start treating England like a run-of-the-mill outfit, while the same folks who used to call India's bowling overrated are now drooling.

India will start as favourites, but only because they are high on confidence and England will be under immense pressure. However, in terms of skills and abilities, there is nothing that separates the two sides.

If both India and England play to their potential India should win.

 

[Mamoon]

[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] this message is for you if you’re an actual Pakistani atleast support your Pathan brother for once if not Pakistan

I don't believe in ethnic bias.

 

[Mercurial]

This is our team, yes, but this is not our pride, as it has been inconsistent. No to blind support. There is a difference between a country and a cricket team. Typical 'desi' emotional rant.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Yes definitely can be the case. Azhar, Graham, Mickey (Outside of SA) were neither great coaches nor big players. You need atleast one thing to have any positive impact on Pakistani players.

Rixon wasn't a big player either but he dealt with them strictly which worked extremely well. Our coaches need to do that to keep our players in check.

 

[Mamoon]

Incredibly proud. What a team.

This phenomenal victory will be remembered for generations. Songs will be sung, poems will be penned and movies will be made.

The World Cup winning credentials have been cemented today. No wonder India and Australia want us eliminated because we are not going to go easy on them in the knockouts.

A truly world class performance by a truly world class team, that fully deserves to play the semifinals.

 

[ManFan]

Incredibly proud. What a team.

This phenomenal victory will be remembered for generations. Songs will be sung, poems will be penned and movies will be made.

The World Cup winning credentials have been cemented today. No wonder India and Australia want us eliminated because we are not going to go easy on them in the knockouts.

A truly world class performance by a truly world class team, that fully deserves to play the semifinals.

I’m beginning to think your “anti-England” conspiracy by ICC was just you trolling.

 

[Amirforpresident]

Criticism doesn’t mean I don’t support. Anyway, you can believe what you want to believe.

You said in another thread that you didnt want anything have to do with Pakistan team

 

[Mamoon]

You said in another thread that you didnt want anything have to do with Pakistan team

Not in this World Cup, because this third class team deserves nothing.

 

[Amirforpresident]

Not in this World Cup, because this third class team deserves nothing.

Like you supported Pakistan outside of the World Cup

 

[Mamoon]

Like you supported Pakistan outside of the World Cup

I did, but I have had enough.

 

[Rathore]

Incredibly proud. What a team.

This phenomenal victory will be remembered for generations. Songs will be sung, poems will be penned and movies will be made.

The World Cup winning credentials have been cemented today. No wonder India and Australia want us eliminated because we are not going to go easy on them in the knockouts.

A truly world class performance by a truly world class team, that fully deserves to play the semifinals.

I know its sarcastic but from you i will take it. Indeed we played brilliantly as a team needs to carry the momentum against bangladesh

 

[Sirris]

Criticizing after one or two bad games? What is our ODI ranking and what has been our W/L ratio against the top sides in the last two years?

Our players and management simply don’t realize how mediocre we have been for very long. About time the media is honest with them and shows them the mirror.

They live in a world detached from reality. we were on a 13 match streak of consecutive loses right before the England match. But I guess that's just irrelevant.