This Mohammad Amir performance is on par with what Wasim Akram did in the 1992 World Cup Final!

[Prince of Pakistan]

Already one of the best spells by a Pakistani in ICC events.

 

[pakistani pride]

What Iike to most in Amir is the fact he never feels the pressure. He is a big match player.

He has played 2 icc event finals. He won both and in both he KO the best player of the oppo team.

Whattaaa playyaaa

 

[TQ89]

Both are special. Waseem's spell for the previous generation. Amir's spell for us. It is something that cannot be forgotten and we will always take pride in it like we take pride in waseem's awesome spell.

 

[Stewie]

different achievements both of them up there in their own right. Can't compare them

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Wasim won the world cup. This was some fast bowling spell, but the Champions trophy can never compare with winning the premier trophy in the game.

That said, I am pleased that those who stuck with Aamer have been thoroughly vindicated. Never doubt his class again.

 

[yasir]

Amir had a super spell, like he did in BD T20, this time on flat road in a final. If this is not redemption for him, I don't know what could be... He was pumped, bowling yard faster, swinging and dead accurate. He did not hold anything back today. Hardly had any loose ball.

One of the best bowling performance by Pakistani bowler in important match, same in WASIM in 1992 final. He was even better then Wasim considering conditions flat road and batsman top 3 of tournament in one team. Above all got Kohli out twice in two balls. Did you see how difficult it was for Dhoni to see off sixth over of Amir, he was literally padding like a tail under does in test match

 

[ask_analyse_act]

he was on the money right from the word go... He is a big-match player, no signs of being nervous on a final against India....He even scolded Azhar (who joined with Hafeez to stop Amir's return back to team) for dropping a dolly, everyone thought he dropped the cup, luckily was saved by Amir, Kohli and shadab....

 

[Amjid Javed]

Was great to see him bowl with great pace but also move the ball both ways like he did before he was banned. His 3 wickets did set up the game.

 

[Sirris]

Wasim won the world cup. This was some fast bowling spell, but the Champions trophy can never compare with winning the premier trophy in the game.

That said, I am pleased that those who stuck with Aamer have been thoroughly vindicated. Never doubt his class again.

You eight that a world cup is rated higher than CT. And I personally don't like such comparison.


Still the occasion was much more than just a champions trophy final.

It was a champions trophy final against India after having been trashed by India in the opening game. To add to that Amir missed the semi final because of his injury and people were questioning his selection for the final since amir had taken very few wickets so far in the tournament and his replacement seemed to have impressed.

 

[Haroon786]

different achievements both of them up there in their own right. Can't compare them

But both pivotal in winning their respective matches?

 

[Stewie]

But both pivotal in winning their respective matches?

Yes. Wasim's spell came when the game was starting to become very tight with LAmb and Fairbrother putting together a good partnership. Waz came and ripped their spine out and in the end we won by 22 runs.

In this case Aamir just floored them in the opening salvo.

You can say Waz's was a 10th round knockout while Aamirs was more like 3rd round KO. Which we reallly needed to win because has that not happened, India would have run away with the game.

Both equally critical in their own right but I have to admit that Chris Lewis bowled was probably the best dismissal I have ever seen. Even in slow motion you can't see the ball just duck and whizz in to castle the stumps. That was pure genius.

 

[Haroon786]

Yes. Wasim's spell came when the game was starting to become very tight with LAmb and Fairbrother putting together a good partnership. Waz came and ripped their spine out and in the end we won by 22 runs.

In this case Aamir just floored them in the opening salvo.

You can say Waz's was a 10th round knockout while Aamirs was more like 3rd round KO. Which we reallly needed to win because has that not happened, India would have run away with the game.

Both equally critical in their own right but I have to admit that Chris Lewis bowled was probably the best dismissal I have ever seen. Even in slow motion you can't see the ball just duck and whizz in to castle the stumps. That was pure genius.

True, nice description of the two juxtaposed.

Amir's victims were better, but Wasim's deliveries were better too for at least two of three batsmen.

 

[vandokkum]

Amir needs to bowl like this more often, then he will go down as a great. He bowls too defensively some times

 

[theariezman]

The thread is about comparing wasim and Aamer not just praising Aamer.....he really did something exceptional today but to match wasim he has a long way to go and hope he will match it will.

 

[Madplayer]

We did it!

Yessssssss couldnt sleep all night due to excitement. There were sounds of fire crackers all night long. People took to streets to celebrate. It was crazy.

 

[Madplayer]

Amir had a super spell, like he did in BD T20, this time on flat road in a final. If this is not redemption for him, I don't know what could be... He was pumped, bowling yard faster, swinging and dead accurate. He did not hold anything back today. Hardly had any loose ball.

One of the best bowling performance by Pakistani bowler in important match, same in WASIM in 1992 final. He was even better then Wasim considering conditions flat road and batsman top 3 of tournament in one team. Above all got Kohli out twice in two balls. Did you see how difficult it was for Dhoni to see off sixth over of Amir, he was literally padding like a tail under does in test match

I am not sure if he is bowling at his optimum pace. He bowled 150kph in dhaka. I remember it vividly. Now he is bowling at a peak pace of around 145kph.

 

[Haroon786]

I am not sure if he is bowling at his optimum pace. He bowled 150kph in dhaka. I remember it vividly. Now he is bowling at a peak pace of around 145kph.

He can move the ball at 140-145 kph, whilst at 150kph not only is it hard to sustain for several overs, he can't really move the ball much either or at all.

His optimum pace is the low 140s with an occasional effort ball.

 

[New Yorker]

Better than Wasim's spell. Amir bowled an ATG and the world best ODI batsman ( twice i two balls ) and other two top orders who were the top batsmen in this champion trophy.

Wasim bowled one allrounder, one batsman and one bowler.

pakistan's bowlers didn't just win this ct they rewrote the script for what a team can do in the ODI format. bowlers were supposed to be whipping boys of the modern game. by the end of the fifth over amir had scripted a new sense of what one player can do. on form these were not just batsmen, but the three best bats in the world in this format, rohit the record holder for the highest score, dhawan the most prolific icc tournament scorer of the past decade, kohli already a living legend, quite possibly the best short format bat ever. and amir dismissed him twice.

 

[PakLFC]

I think Waz's performance was a bit better. With this performance today Amir's has softened my stance on his return after the ban. Well played, Amir! Tum toh Bharat ko khoob maara!

 

[DHONI183]

For me, there´ll never be anyone again like Wasim Akram, there´ll never be a sorcerer again like him. Hell, bowling lost its fun for me once he retired. Other bowlers would often end up bowling even more devastating spells in equally or more crunch situations, but they could never be Wasim for me.

However, yesterday, after 14 years, almost an eternity, I saw Wasim Akram bowl for an hour or so. I saw him blow away possibly the world´s best top-order, certainly this tournaments.

It´s a pity that I was hardly a year and half old when the 1992 final spell happened. I might´ve seen it differently had I watched that live in an age of cricket following, but yesterday was the best spell I´ve seen by a Pakistan bowler on a stage as big as this. Three wickets, four chances, 36 balls of madness, insanity, brutality, submission. Mohammad Amir is acting in a perfect script of fall and rise, one of the great stories of redemption that cricket has seen.

Guys, what was his average speed in that spell? I totally missed it as his bowling almost made it unworthy to take a look at the scorecard at the bottom of the screen. It seemed as if he was bowling at 100 MPH, even if pace wasn´t the main weapon in that spell.

 

[Gr33n_Pak]

Appreciate your appreciation

 

[zn426]

I've heard all about the unplayable spells of the 90s, where fast bowlers would just brutally destroy the opposition. As a kid growing up in America, I simply didn't care back then.

Yesterday, I saw what it was like. Absolutely brutal swing, a fast bowler on the rampage. It was the 90s resurrected in the form of a 25 year old fast bowler. The spell had everything, Amir was like a hurricane flooding the shoreline.

I saw Shoaib Akhtar destroy the Cricket All-Stars with his pace in that match in New York and had a taste. Now I get the pleasure of seeing the next Wasim Akram tear teams apart for the next ten years.

What a brilliant performance.

 

[waleed88]

Botham yes but lamb was nothing special and Chris lewis was a tailender.

Bhai jaan they only needed 90 runs to win with 6 wickets in hand... if it weren't for those two deliveries we wouldn't even have a world cup win for now. At the time Neil Fairbrother and Lamb were well set and going on to win it

Indians are great batsmen but all of them struggle on pitches with even a little bit of swing..

put 340 on board, its easier to get batsmen out on top rather than any batsmen that get out in the middle overs and are well set with 90 to chase

Wasim was the bowler of the tournament, so an apt comparison bears with Hassan Ali rather than Mohammad Amir, who didn't do anything of note until the final

 

[SameerK]

Where are the indians who said bumrah is better than Aamer?

Did some people actually say this. What a joke if they did. I guess the hype just got to them and they realised when Bumrah was exposed.

 

[yasir]

I am not sure if he is bowling at his optimum pace. He bowled 150kph in dhaka. I remember it vividly. Now he is bowling at a peak pace of around 145kph.

Speed gun only measure horizontal velocity, not nip and carry. Yesterday, Amir was running hard and hitting the deck hard at fuller length(ideal length for the conditions), his nip, carry and late swing caused major worry in the ranks of Indian batsman, they were like "How in the world we will make those 340 runs"....There is more to bowling then just speed gun stats...Not to mention, Wicket was completely flat!!

 

[Badsha]

Botham yes but lamb was nothing special and Chris lewis was a tailender.

Lamb was an incredible ball and summed up the greatness of Wasim Akram. A left hander bowling from that angle, you'd definitely expect the ball to continue on it's angle but the ball straightened up towards the left side. Incredible delivery.

 

[New Yorker]

Isn't the real question whether it was on par with Wahab vs Watson?

 

[Haroon786]

For me, there´ll never be anyone again like Wasim Akram, there´ll never be a sorcerer again like him. Hell, bowling lost its fun for me once he retired. Other bowlers would often end up bowling even more devastating spells in equally or more crunch situations, but they could never be Wasim for me.

However, yesterday, after 14 years, almost an eternity, I saw Wasim Akram bowl for an hour or so. I saw him blow away possibly the world´s best top-order, certainly this tournaments.

It´s a pity that I was hardly a year and half old when the 1992 final spell happened. I might´ve seen it differently had I watched that live in an age of cricket following, but yesterday was the best spell I´ve seen by a Pakistan bowler on a stage as big as this. Three wickets, four chances, 36 balls of madness, insanity, brutality, submission. Mohammad Amir is acting in a perfect script of fall and rise, one of the great stories of redemption that cricket has seen.

Guys, what was his average speed in that spell? I totally missed it as his bowling almost made it unworthy to take a look at the scorecard at the bottom of the screen. It seemed as if he was bowling at 100 MPH, even if pace wasn´t the main weapon in that spell.

He bowled like as if his life depended on it and perhaps from a certain perspective, perhaps his current tenure as a Pakistani cricketer would have been threatened if he didn't show the goods on Sunday, it was absolutely integral and he performed against all the odds.

Speed, I felt like he was hurrying them quite a bit too although more realistically it was a combination of pace, movement, tight line and length and very good strategy which enabled this excellence to occur.

 

[Muhammad10]

Lamb was an incredible ball and summed up the greatness of Wasim Akram. A left hander bowling from that angle, you'd definitely expect the ball to continue on it's angle but the ball straightened up towards the left side. Incredible delivery.

Left-armer's version of Hasan to Parnell.