Time for Bangladesh to open their hearts and let their Muslim brothers in from Myanmar

[MenInG]

the benefits of helping others cannot be measured in economic terms

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My statement on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rohingya?src=hash">#Rohingya</a> crisis in Myanmar: <a href="https://t.co/1Pj5U3VdDK">pic.twitter.com/1Pj5U3VdDK</a></p>— Malala (@Malala) <a href="https://twitter.com/Malala/status/904449772844711938">3 September 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Neighbouring countries should help however the more they help, the more the Burmese will simply ethnically cleanse even more of their Rohingya population. More than anything else something needs to be done to force Myanmar to take some action.

 

[Hasan2K8]

500k Rohingyas in BD. Another 100k has come last 10days. Who said they are not letting them in or not opening their hearts to Rohingya?

BD can only do so much. Where are the mighty Oil filthy rich Arab/middle east nations?
Only Turkey willing to stand up and make a difference, willingly to cover the expenses (that's what they said). Shame on the filthy rich countries, had done nothing to help.

Almighty above the sky will question those clown leaders of them places, what you did with the wealth you had when some of the muslims in much needed help to survive after fleeing from genocide from the Burmese barbaric army/Buddhist extremists. So much wealth they have to spend in competition with each other making skyscrapers, to show off. When they could least help fund some expenses for the Rohingya refugees.


BD has done more than enough. No one sane should question the effort of BD. And it's continuing to help more Rohingya fleeing Burma.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

As mentioned above since august Bangladesh have taken in almost 100,000 Rohingyas - that's in addition to the half a million they already had.

http://www.france24.com/en/20170904-fleeing-burma-87000-rohingya-muslims-arrive-bangladesh

 

[CanadianG00se]

the benefits of helping others cannot be measured in economic terms

Thats true. However, we have to think practically. Bangladesh is in no position to help Rohingyas. Even if they let them in, they will escape the butchering but will have to face even bigger problem: HUNGER.

How can BD able to help and feed Rohingyas when they are unable to feed their very own. Govt of BD maybe able to provide them food for initial period but then law of economics will kick in and they will left with a choice to make.

I really wish UN provides BD with economic help which in return can help Rohingyas.

 

[Varun]

Must everything be viewed through the prism of economic benefit? How about preserving life and dignity of human beings as a good enough reason?

Bangladesh is a developing nation with an uber-high population and density and can't mess around with candyfloss subjective notions like that. How well did it work out for Pakistan when they opened the floodgates to displaced Afghans? You tell me.

And look at Europe with the Syrian refugees - a bomb blast or a truck driving through the crowd every other week. Best to steer clear of all of this stuff as a country unless the peoples are really good and skilled at something. Of course if that was the case they wouldn't be floating around in a boat...

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

500k Rohingyas in BD. Another 100k has come last 10days. Who said they are not letting them in or not opening their hearts to Rohingya?

BD can only do so much. Where are the mighty Oil filthy rich Arab/middle east nations?
Only Turkey willing to stand up and make a difference, willingly to cover the expenses (that's what they said). Shame on the filthy rich countries, had done nothing to help.

Almighty above the sky will question those clown leaders of them places, what you did with the wealth you had when some of the muslims in much needed help to survive after fleeing from genocide from the Burmese barbaric army/Buddhist extremists. So much wealth they have to spend in competition with each other making skyscrapers, to show off. When they could least help fund some expenses for the Rohingya refugees.


BD has done more than enough. No one sane should question the effort of BD. And it's continuing to help more Rohingya fleeing Burma.

Middle eat oil rich countries won't even take in Arab refugees from the Syrian war, why would they invite them from Asia? Truth is, the Arab countries don't have an Islamic constitution, like Bangladesh they are secular with some laws which claim to follow Sharia which suits them. Probably just as well if Syria under ISIS or Afghanistan under the Taliban is what complete adherence to Sharia would look like. Then there would be no borders and you could go to whichever country you liked whether in Arabia or Bangladesh.

Personally I feel this idea that it's the duty of Arab countries to fix this problem is racist in itself. Why do we have a UN if it's not there to look after the interests of the oppressed in the world? Shouldn't the pressure be put on Burma to stop the Rohingyas being evicted from their home of generations rather than rubber stamping the ethnic cleansing by putting blame where it doesn't belong?

 

[Saeed]

Middle eat oil rich countries won't even take in Arab refugees from the Syrian war, why would they invite them from Asia? Truth is, the Arab countries don't have an Islamic constitution, like Bangladesh they are secular with some laws which claim to follow Sharia which suits them. Probably just as well if Syria under ISIS or Afghanistan under the Taliban is what complete adherence to Sharia would look like. Then there would be no borders and you could go to whichever country you liked whether in Arabia or Bangladesh.

Personally I feel this idea that it's the duty of Arab countries to fix this problem is racist in itself. Why do we have a UN if it's not there to look after the interests of the oppressed in the world? Shouldn't the pressure be put on Burma to stop the Rohingyas being evicted from their home of generations rather than rubber stamping the ethnic cleansing by putting blame where it doesn't belong?

I think they have already taken some if this is accurate.

 

[Markhor]

And look at Europe with the Syrian refugees - a bomb blast or a truck driving through the crowd every other week. Best to steer clear of all of this stuff as a country unless the peoples are really good and skilled at something. Of course if that was the case they wouldn't be floating around in a boat...

I know facts aren't your strong suit so let me inform you of them. Most of the terrorists who've perpetrated attacks are homegrown and of North African descent not Syrian refugees. It may be true that some of them were radicalised from fighting in Syria or were trained there but these were not refugees.

2015 Paris attackers - the lead operative was born in Belgium. The vast majority were French and Belgian citizens with two Iraqis.

2016 Brussels attack - four of them were Belgian-Moroccans and one a Swede.

2016 Nice attack - Tunisian with a French residency permit.

2016 Berlin attack - Tunisian.

2017 Manchester attack - born in Britain to Libyan parents.

2017 London Bridge attackers - 2 Moroccans and 1 Pakistani.

2017 Barcelona attackers - all Moroccans.

As for your bolded remark, well that just shows your sick mentality. If you had your home destroyed, friends and family murdered and neighbourhood barrel bombed with no prospects whatsoever in your country and had no option but to clamber upon boats you wouldn't be making such smug remarks.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Thats true. However, we have to think practically. Bangladesh is in no position to help Rohingyas. Even if they let them in, they will escape the butchering but will have to face even bigger problem: HUNGER.

How can BD able to help and feed Rohingyas when they are unable to feed their very own. Govt of BD maybe able to provide them food for initial period but then law of economics will kick in and they will left with a choice to make.

I really wish UN provides BD with economic help which in return can help Rohingyas.

Please dont talk about UN.The UN has registered 14k Rohingyas in India and isnt allowing them to be deported.Though India has told UN that India will deport these 14k refugees.

This is in addition to the 40000s who are not even registered

 

[CanadianG00se]

Please dont talk about UN.The UN has registered 14k Rohingyas in India and isnt allowing them to be deported.Though India has told UN that India will deport these 14k refugees.

This is in addition to the 40000s who are not even registered

Do the nation(ones economically challenged ones) gets monetary help from UN?

 

[Varun]

As for your bolded remark, well that just shows your sick mentality. If you had your home destroyed, friends and family murdered and neighbourhood barrel bombed with no prospects whatsoever in your country and had no option but to clamber upon boats you wouldn't be making such smug remarks.

How about your mentality? You only care about the people in the boats because they're Muslim. If they were Christian or Hindu or Jew or myself in the boat it wouldn't even register in your mind.

At least I'm consistent: Bangladesh is a country of 160 million that could do without endless flooding of more, which would only be to their detriment in the short and long term. Don't care about the religion - that is a non issue.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Please dont talk about UN.The UN has registered 14k Rohingyas in India and isnt allowing them to be deported.Though India has told UN that India will deport these 14k refugees.

This is in addition to the 40000s who are not even registered

Soon we will take over west bengal and bengal will get back its lost glory.

 

[MMHS]

My bigger concern is that the intent to help fellow Muslims is not being demonstrated by the Govt of Bangladesh which ultimately represents people of that country.

The actual logistics can be discussed but the niyat is important and we arent seeing that.

First part of your post isn't true.

As I said, if BD Govt. wasn't willing, a single Burmese bird won't have crossed border. But, officially, no Govt. will say that you keep brutal ethnic cleansing, I'll take care of whatever spoils are left over.

Niyat is more than suchha, but logistics needs money, not discussion. It's easy to take cheap shots at guts & heart, but that doesn't help much outside blogs. What Bangladesh is doing none of Malaysia or Indonesia did to Cambodian Muslims during Khemer Rouze brutality to Muslims.

 

[Markhor]

How about your mentality? You only care about the people in the boats because they're Muslim. If they were Christian or Hindu or Jew or myself in the boat it wouldn't even register in your mind.

At least I'm consistent: Bangladesh is a country of 160 million that could do without endless flooding of more, which would only be to their detriment in the short and long term. Don't care about the religion - that is a non issue.

1) I see no answer to those facts I've stated - do you accept you were lying and/or ignorant of the facts when you claimed Syrian refugees are responsible for these recent European terror attacks ?

Don't make false assertions then dodge the argument when you've been picked up on it.

2) You've no greater grasp on the facts than you have any insight into my political views.

I have long criticised the injustices committed by Muslim countries against minorities in their countries, especially Pakistan and anti-Semitism in the Muslim world longer than you've been on this forum so don't reflect your own political cynicism onto me.

 

[Muhammad10]

PM Sheikh Hasina seeks UN intervention for swift repatriation of Rohingya refugees

Some 126,000 new refugees have entered Bangladesh so far, as the influx of Rohingya continues

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Wednesday urged the United Nations (UN) to aid in the swift repatriation of Rohingya refugees displaced from Myanmar and currently residing in Bangladesh, reports UNB.

“The UN should act in such a way so that the refugees are repatriated quickly,” the prime minister said during a meeting at her office with outgoing UN Resident Coordinator and UNDP Resident Representative Robert D Watkins.

The Prime Minister also reiterated calls for the international community to mount pressure on the Myanmar government to stop the driving Rohingyas into Bangladesh, and take back those taking shelter here.

Praising the Bangladesh government for their humanitarian efforts and acceptance of the refugees, Robert D Watkins expressed his apprehension that the numbers of Rohingya fleeing to Bangladesh may rise in the coming days. Over 126,000 new refugees have entered Bangladesh so far.

The prime minister added that the government prepares a list whenever refugees enter Bangladesh.

“The government will arrange makeshift shelters for them,” Sheikh Hasina said, informing that Vashanchar island shall be designated for refugee support and assistance.

Regarding insurgency problems in the Rakhine state, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina questioned where the supply of finance and arms to the insurgents was coming from, requesting the international community inquires into the matter.

Meanwhile, Robert D Watkins added that the UNHCR has already offered to assist in the identification process of the Myanmar nationals in Bangladesh, which the Prime Minister appreciated. He also stressed the UN secretary general’s personal involvement in dealing with the Rohingya crisis.

The PM’s Principal Secretary Dr Kamal Abdul Naser Chowdhury was present during the meeting.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/foreign-affairs/2017/09/06/pm-un-intervention-rohingya/

 

[captain.hansolo]

Half of Bengal lies in India, when the Rohingyas originally settled in Burma many generations ago they would have been Indians as there was no such country called Bangladesh. So in reality, Bangladesh is no more obliged to take in these refugees than India.

if those seeking refuge enter india, then yes, india will not turn them down. india has an exceptional record of being helpful to those seeking refuge. but currently these unfortunate individuals are pouring into bangladesh.

maybe under a resettlement arrangement, india should offer to help them.

also by your logic, since pakistan was a non-entity prior to 1947, and it was all just one big india, is pakistan not on the hook for settling a third of those seeking refuge?

 

[captain.hansolo]

I think they have already taken some if this is accurate.
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thank you for posting this. its al-jazera, they are almost always accurate.

 

[captain.hansolo]

the benefits of helping others cannot be measured in economic terms

Yes! it can!

almost always immigrants and refuge seekers add to the local economy in several folds more than the resources initially required in their resettlement.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

if those seeking refuge enter india, then yes, india will not turn them down. india has an exceptional record of being helpful to those seeking refuge. but currently these unfortunate individuals are pouring into bangladesh.

maybe under a resettlement arrangement, india should offer to help them.

also by your logic, since pakistan was a non-entity prior to 1947, and it was all just one big india, is pakistan not on the hook for settling a third of those seeking refuge?

Pakistan is on the other side, they share the border with Afghanistan, hence they took responsibility for accepting Afghan refugees. It's about logistics more than anything else. If the Rohingyas were reaching Pakistan, then it would be a matter for Pakistan to address, but at the moment they are mostly trying to reach the areas they are local to, which is Bengal - the area the Burmese are claiming they came from initially.

 

[captain.hansolo]

Pakistan is on the other side, they share the border with Afghanistan, hence they took responsibility for accepting Afghan refugees. It's about logistics more than anything else. If the Rohingyas were reaching Pakistan, then it would be a matter for Pakistan to address, but at the moment they are mostly trying to reach the areas they are local to, which is Bengal - the area the Burmese are claiming they came from initially.

thus by your logic only those who neighbor the state in distress are tasked with providing assistance to those seeking refuge.

if that is so, then *all* afghanistanis seeking refuge should be housed in pakistan. and FYI, india has a sizable population of ethnic afghanistanis, but most of them arrived following the fall of the soviet regime.

i am not quite sure what you are pushing here - india is providing shelter to these refugees, as they have in the past to those fleeing violence in erstwhile east pakistan, and sri lanka. there is a significant number of immigrants seeking refuge in india who arrive from maldives, and of course, afghanistan.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

thus by your logic only those who neighbor the state in distress are tasked with providing assistance to those seeking refuge.

if that is so, then *all* afghanistanis seeking refuge should be housed in pakistan. and FYI, india has a sizable population of ethnic afghanistanis, but most of them arrived following the fall of the soviet regime.

i am not quite sure what you are pushing here - india is providing shelter to these refugees, as they have in the past to those fleeing violence in erstwhile east pakistan, and sri lanka. there is a significant number of immigrants seeking refuge in india who arrive from maldives, and of course, afghanistan.

First I've heard of Afghan refugees in India, but then your description of "sizeable" or "significant" numbers is probably a lot different to what most people have in mind. Pakistan took on 4 million at one point, what sort of figures are you talking about?

In any case, my view is that all the Asian countries need to take some responsibility to help out refugees from that continent, but obviously there is going to be more pressure on those that share borders with Burma. The best solution would be for the Burmese to stop ethnically cleansing the Rohingyas in my view, but then India's prime minister seems to think Suu Kyi is doing a grand job.

 

[cricketjoshila]

First I've heard of Afghan refugees in India, but then your description of "sizeable" or "significant" numbers is probably a lot different to what most people have in mind. Pakistan took on 4 million at one point, what sort of figures are you talking about?

In any case, my view is that all the Asian countries need to take some responsibility to help out refugees from that continent, but obviously there is going to be more pressure on those that share borders with Burma. The best solution would be for the Burmese to stop ethnically cleansing the Rohingyas in my view, but then India's prime minister seems to think Suu Kyi is doing a grand job.

India houses refugees from Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh,Sri Lanka,Tibet so we have enough refugees.

Burma should stop killing innocent people.India isnt killing the Rohingyas, India has nothing to do with their killing either.India has normal diplomatic relations with Burma and Suu Kyi has been praised by various leaders throughout for her role in democracy and Modi repeated it. India isnt going to poke its nose in Myanmar just because posters on PP will like that.

 

[captain.hansolo]

First I've heard of Afghan refugees in India, but then your description of "sizeable" or "significant" numbers is probably a lot different to what most people have in mind. Pakistan took on 4 million at one point, what sort of figures are you talking about?

In any case, my view is that all the Asian countries need to take some responsibility to help out refugees from that continent, but obviously there is going to be more pressure on those that share borders with Burma. The best solution would be for the Burmese to stop ethnically cleansing the Rohingyas in my view, but then India's prime minister seems to think Suu Kyi is doing a grand job.

agree. this is a pan south asian issue and must be addressed through an effort that is a partnership of all south asian states. however, the refugees are presently in bangladesh. they are there since the terrain along the burma and india border is not as easily traversed as that along the border between burma and bangladesh.

the first need of the hour is to not turn them away.

the second would be find a home for them, with a large number settling in india as india being the largest and most powerful economy in the region can best absorb them.

and finally, finding a diplomatic solution to resolving the issue internally in burma.

however, you do need to pause and stop blaming india as we are still on stage 1.

 

[captain.hansolo]

India houses refugees from Pakistan,Afghanistan,Bangladesh,Sri Lanka,Tibet so we have enough refugees.

Burma should stop killing innocent people.India isnt killing the Rohingyas, India has nothing to do with their killing either.India has normal diplomatic relations with Burma and Suu Kyi has been praised by various leaders throughout for her role in democracy and Modi repeated it. India isnt going to poke its nose in Myanmar just because posters on PP will like that.

that is an absolutely pathetic, insensitive and unnecessary (not to mention inaccurate) statement. stop now.

 

[cricketjoshila]

that is an absolutely pathetic, insensitive and unnecessary (not to mention inaccurate) statement. stop now.

Its your view. Do you know the number of refugees we have?The population of India is 1.25bn and we cannot afford to take in foreigners when every bit of our resources are to be used for Indians.

There are millions of illegal immigrants living in India. Govt estimates range from 10 to 20mn.

My sensitivities lie with Indians.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

What is the point of dragging India here?Stop insulting Bangladesh,they are a proud sovereign nation.

[MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION]
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
[MENTION=136334]Shutdown Corner[/MENTION]

Well its been reported in the Bangladeshi media that Modi has given his support to the Myanmar army.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well its been reported in the Bangladeshi media that Modi has given his support to the Myanmar army.

Myanmar Army???LOL. Myanmar Army is a chinese ally.

 

[Gubol123]

Well its been reported in the Bangladeshi media that Modi has given his support to the Myanmar army.

Myanmar army is a big Chinese ally. Only way to stop this is to through Chinese, which none of the Pakistanies here will acknowledge. CHina, if it wants, can stop the genocide. But it will not do so..

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Myanmar Army???LOL. Myanmar Army is a chinese ally.

Its what the left leaning Daily Star reported. Not sayings its true.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Myanmar Army???LOL. Myanmar Army is a chinese ally.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/asia/modi-india-myanmar-rohingya/index.html

CNN reporting the same now. No surprise Modi is blaming the Muslims in Burma as he blames them in India. This may be Modi's strategy of replacing whatever Chinese influence is in Burma and is especially useful since the Chinese don't have a stake in the Burma-Rohingya conflict.

 

[KingKhanWC]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/asia/modi-india-myanmar-rohingya/index.html

CNN reporting the same now. No surprise Modi is blaming the Muslims in Burma as he blames them in India. This may be Modi's strategy of replacing whatever Chinese influence is in Burma and is especially useful since the Chinese don't have a stake in the Burma-Rohingya conflict.

As everyone knew, Modi's initial statement praising Suui Kyi was indeed a complement for her support of murder, rape and torture. Not surprising as both leaders use the excuse of terrorism to target populations.

 

[cricketjoshila]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/06/asia/modi-india-myanmar-rohingya/index.html

CNN reporting the same now. No surprise Modi is blaming the Muslims in Burma as he blames them in India. This may be Modi's strategy of replacing whatever Chinese influence is in Burma and is especially useful since the Chinese don't have a stake in the Burma-Rohingya conflict.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNjFUcjwOU

This is what happened 5 days back. Terrorists rom north east India hide in Myanmar border areas.Modi was talking about them to Myanmar.

 

[cricketjoshila]

As everyone knew, Modi's initial statement praising Suui Kyi was indeed a complement for her support of murder, rape and torture. Not surprising as both leaders use the excuse of terrorism to target populations.

So what are you going to do about it?Since Indians dont think Modi has done anything wrong and only they can remove him?What are your options?

 

[Major]

Refugees bring in an economic crisis.

Sure you could take in a certain amount, but your country also needs to be economically strong aswell.

Bangladesh, pakistan are third world countries. We already have enough problems.

 

[Major]

that is an absolutely pathetic, insensitive and unnecessary (not to mention inaccurate) statement. stop now.

Call it insensitive or whatever you want but hes right.

Forget refugees india already has its population itself to worry about.

In such situations you have to be realistic.

Our govts fail to provide for us, you bring in more people how do you expect govt to provide for them

 

[Shutdown Corner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNjFUcjwOU

This is what happened 5 days back. Terrorists rom north east India hide in Myanmar border areas.Modi was talking about them to Myanmar.

That doesn't have anything to do with the Rohingya issue though.

Modi was talking about the Rohingya. He mentioned an attack on the Burmese security forces which the Rohingya insurgents have claimed. Thats also what the CNN article was covering. Any other issue he may or may not have spoken to with the Suu Kyi or whatever her name is doesn't involve the Rohingya.

But is it really surprising that Modi would take that position on the Rohingya? I mean would it be shocking if we discovered some documents in which Hitler had bad things to say about Jews? Its par for the course, no?

 

[MenInG]

https://www.parhlo.com/malik-riaz-1-billion-for-rohingya

The geopolitics of the world keeps on changing, with a new humanitarian crisis erupting every now and then. Currently, the whole world is talking about just one thing, the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

One of the finest non-political people in Pakistan, Malik Riaz Hussain, the Chairman of Bahria Town, has done something that the country should be extremely proud of, yet again. According to reports, Malik Riaz has pledged Rs. 1 Billion for the Rohingya Muslims of Burma, along with providing them with land accommodation.

In a TV interview, Malik Riaz said: “Have we become so selfish that we cannot help our brother Muslims in Myanmar? The Europeans have openly welcomed Muslims from all over the world into their countries, can we not accommodate 1 million Rohingya Muslims in our country?”

“I am willing to donate Rs. 1 Billion along with land accommodation to help the Rohingya Muslims resettle in Pakistan. The government and establishment need to work together and help bring the Rohingya Muslims to Pakistan, and this will help us as a nation. Allah will help us by helping others!”

“We are so passionate about Kashmir, then why not about Burma? We need to stand our own feet before the world declares us as terrorists and we end up as the Burmese Muslims. We need to take the initiative ourselves and support the Rohingya Muslims by giving them financial assistance and land to live,” he further added.

Rohingya Muslims in Burma are currently going through the worst humanitarian crisis, with the Burmese Army slaughtering and massacring any Rohingya they see. When these poor souls tried to enter Bangladesh through Myanmar’s borders, they were sent back by the Bangladesh Army on Sheikh Hasina’s orders.

On the other hand, entertainment powerhouses such as Waqar Zaka and Amir Liaquat have also announced to go to Burma to help the Rohingya Muslims. Pakistan needs to take steps in the right directions to help their Muslim brothers, as it was decided in the Objective Resolution of 1949, by Liaquat Ali Khan, that the country would help Muslims all around the globe.


With Malik Riaz taking the first steps, it would be interesting to see what follows, how the government and establishment would react to such an offer. One issue that Pakistan might face is that Myanmar is an ally of China, and to go against the Burmese would not be taken too well by the Chinese. However, we laud the step Malik Riaz has taken.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

https://www.parhlo.com/malik-riaz-1-billion-for-rohingya

The geopolitics of the world keeps on changing, with a new humanitarian crisis erupting every now and then. Currently, the whole world is talking about just one thing, the ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar.

One of the finest non-political people in Pakistan, Malik Riaz Hussain, the Chairman of Bahria Town, has done something that the country should be extremely proud of, yet again. According to reports, Malik Riaz has pledged Rs. 1 Billion for the Rohingya Muslims of Burma, along with providing them with land accommodation.

In a TV interview, Malik Riaz said: “Have we become so selfish that we cannot help our brother Muslims in Myanmar? The Europeans have openly welcomed Muslims from all over the world into their countries, can we not accommodate 1 million Rohingya Muslims in our country?”

“I am willing to donate Rs. 1 Billion along with land accommodation to help the Rohingya Muslims resettle in Pakistan. The government and establishment need to work together and help bring the Rohingya Muslims to Pakistan, and this will help us as a nation. Allah will help us by helping others!”

“We are so passionate about Kashmir, then why not about Burma? We need to stand our own feet before the world declares us as terrorists and we end up as the Burmese Muslims. We need to take the initiative ourselves and support the Rohingya Muslims by giving them financial assistance and land to live,” he further added.

Rohingya Muslims in Burma are currently going through the worst humanitarian crisis, with the Burmese Army slaughtering and massacring any Rohingya they see. When these poor souls tried to enter Bangladesh through Myanmar’s borders, they were sent back by the Bangladesh Army on Sheikh Hasina’s orders.

On the other hand, entertainment powerhouses such as Waqar Zaka and Amir Liaquat have also announced to go to Burma to help the Rohingya Muslims. Pakistan needs to take steps in the right directions to help their Muslim brothers, as it was decided in the Objective Resolution of 1949, by Liaquat Ali Khan, that the country would help Muslims all around the globe.


With Malik Riaz taking the first steps, it would be interesting to see what follows, how the government and establishment would react to such an offer. One issue that Pakistan might face is that Myanmar is an ally of China, and to go against the Burmese would not be taken too well by the Chinese. However, we laud the step Malik Riaz has taken.

It's not up to him to resettle people in Pakistan....

If he wants, he should pay for them to settle in Bangladesh where they belong.

 

[Varun]

Massive protests in Pakistan against atrocities on Rohingyas

Thousands of protesters took to the streets of Pakistan's major cities today to condemn a crackdown on Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar, with many carrying placards stating "Shame on Aung San Suu Kyi".

The largely peaceful rallies were spearheaded by Islamist party Jamat-e-Islami (JI), but other groups including mainstream political parties joined in.

Leaders including JI chief Siraj ul Haq called for an end to the "genocide" of the Rohingya and for Pakistan to break off relations with the government in Myanmar.

Pakistan has previously expressed "deep anguish" at the violence.
Many protesters also slammed Suu Kyi, Myanmar's de facto leader, over her silence. The Nobel Peace Prize winner has faced criticism for failing to condemn the violence, leaving her global reputation in tatters.

A senior United Nations representative told AFP Friday that more than 1,000 people may already have been killed in the military-led crackdown, which has seen 270,000 mostly Rohingya civilians flee to Bangladesh in the last two weeks alone.

Others have died trying to flee the fighting in Rakhine state, where witnesses say entire villages have been burned since Rohingya militants launched a series of coordinated attacks on August 25, prompting the crackdown.

In Pakistan's southern port city of Karachi, which hosts one of the largest Rohingya populations outside of Myanmar, more than 2,000 people demonstrated outside the Karachi Press Club.

"If our leader gives the call, we will lay down our lives for the Burmese Muslims," one protester, Maulana Ahmed, told AFP.

In the capital Islamabad a similarly sized crowd gathered at the entrance to the diplomatic enclave, inside which the Myanmar embassy is situated.

Many carried placards reading: "Why are these Muslims being killed? What is their crime?" as chants of "Allahu Akbar", or "God is the Greatest", reverberated.

There were also some sporadic calls for "jihad", or holy war.

Security forces with protective riot gear stood nearby and containers blocked off access to the enclave, with some small scuffles.

But police appeared relaxed as the demonstrators, some armed with batons, showed no signs of trying to go further into the diplomatic area.

Protests were also held in deeply religious neighbouring Afghanistan Friday.
Hundreds of placard-waving men marched in the eastern city of Jalalabad in support of the Rohingya while smaller demonstrations were held in the capital Kabul, including one outside the compound of the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, and other cities.

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/...n-against-atrocities-on-rohingyas/259758.html

Hope Pakistanis can make a difference to the happenings in Burma at the moment.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

They've now taken in 270,000 in 2 weeks.

About 270,000 Rohingya Muslims have sought shelter in Bangladesh since violence erupted in Myanmar two weeks ago, the UN says.
A spokeswoman said the jump - up from 164,000 on Thursday - was because new pockets of people had been found.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41194011

 

[DW44]

Meh, these people would have a lot more credibility if they weren't actively complicit in the same crimes at home that they're decrying abroad. One of the biggest rallies was taken out by ASWJ whose militant wing, Lashkar e Jhangvi, has killed tens of thousands of Pakistani (only terrorist organization in Pakistan with a body count that rivals TTP's) civilians whom they targeted specifically for their sect. Jamat e Islami, who took out the biggest rally, are the chief architects of the supremely intolerant Pakistan we know and (begrudgingly) love today. While the message is on point - what's going on there is nothing short of a crime against humanity comparable to Bosnia or Rwanda - the people making the most noise over it are guilty of the same crime they're protesting against which highlights nothing except for their own hypocrisy.

 

[www787]

Meh, these people would have a lot more credibility if they weren't actively complicit in the same crimes at home that they're decrying abroad. One of the biggest rallies was taken out by ASWJ whose militant wing, Lashkar e Jhangvi, has killed tens of thousands of Pakistani (only terrorist organization in Pakistan with a body count that rivals TTP's) civilians whom they targeted specifically for their sect. Jamat e Islami, who took out the biggest rally, are the chief architects of the supremely intolerant Pakistan we know and (begrudgingly) love today. While the message is on point - what's going on there is nothing short of a crime against humanity comparable to Bosnia or Rwanda - the people making the most noise over it are guilty of the same crime they're protesting against which highlights nothing except for their own hypocrisy.

Malala neither is a member of ASWJ nor support their rallies.

 

[DW44]

Malala neither is a member of ASWJ nor support their rallies.

This post was originally in a thread about the protests in Pakistan. That thread has now been merged with this one. I was talking about the likes of JI and ASWJ, not Malala.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think the OIC needs to approach the UN to discuss methods of distributing refugees among other Muslim countries. It's wrong on many counts, as it effectively is rubber stamping ethnic cleansing, but what are the alternatives? Left to it's own devices the UN will just stand by and watch as they did in Bosnia.

 

[Muhammad10]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aung San Suu Kyi has called the Rohingya issue an “iceberg of misinformation”.<br><br>Here’s the reality from refugees in neighbouring Bangladesh. <a href="https://t.co/hWpQvzC2HP">pic.twitter.com/hWpQvzC2HP</a></p>— Channel 4 News (@Channel4News) <a href="https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/907574308683304960">September 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[hamid.s]

It's not up to him to resettle people in Pakistan....

If he wants, he should pay for them to settle in Bangladesh where they belong.

and why do they belong in Bangladesh? They have been living in Burma since the 15th century. The only commonality they have with Bangladeshis is that the region was ruled by the same Bengal Muslim Sultanate about 600 years ago.

That region also includes Bengal (both BD and West Bengal), Assam, Bihar, Tripura, Orrissa. In your logic, any Assamese or Biharis are also Bengalis.

We now have 2 million plus Rohingya refugees in the country. In the recent week alone, took in 700k. People from other parts of BD have rushed to help them. A lot of zakat money has gone to them. Local NGOs are assisting them as well.

But these are not enough to address ethnic cleansing. We are doing the best as we can but unless Myanmar stops the genocide, these will get even worse.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

At least this time the intl community has put some pressure. Of course the Rakhine/Myanmar genocide is continuing unabated, but this time Bangladesh government isn't alone and has also been convinced by Turkey and others to do more to help.

 

[Muhammad10]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With major powers sputtering, Bangladesh PM will come to UN to make case to stop Myanmar attacks on Rohingya Muslims <a href="https://t.co/KP77TeE8Mu">https://t.co/KP77TeE8Mu</a> <a href="https://t.co/30svc34JU4">pic.twitter.com/30svc34JU4</a></p>— Kenneth Roth (@KenRoth) <a href="https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/909214838315941890">September 17, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Gabbar Singh]

All credit to Sheikh Hasina and the Bangladeshis - even developed and wealthy nations would not accept half a million+ refugees in a handful of weeks yet Bangladesh have. They are putting some of their wealthier neighbours to shame.

 

[Muhammad10]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More than 10,000 in Bangladesh march toward Myanmar's embassy to protest country's crackdown on Rohingya Muslims <a href="https://t.co/zDVEuzCY9k">https://t.co/zDVEuzCY9k</a> <a href="https://t.co/h7dYutCXHg">pic.twitter.com/h7dYutCXHg</a></p>— World News Tonight (@ABCWorldNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/909913868599734272">September 18, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Muhammad10]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina​ didn't ask Donald Trump​ for help with Rohingya refugees. <a href="https://t.co/pCMRuS3BAE">pic.twitter.com/pCMRuS3BAE</a></p>— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/910119210050899968">September 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Bangladesh PM Sheikh Hasina​ didn't ask Donald Trump​ for help with Rohingya refugees. <a href="https://t.co/pCMRuS3BAE">pic.twitter.com/pCMRuS3BAE</a></p>— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) <a href="https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/910119210050899968">September 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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“If we can feed 160 million people we can fee another 500 or 700,000, we can share our food, we are ready to do it and we’re already doing it”.

What a great attitude!

 

[Slog]

It's not up to him to resettle people in Pakistan....

If he wants, he should pay for them to settle in Bangladesh where they belong.

Yea. Hate it when he acts like de facto prime minister sometimes

 

[Slog]

So what's with Hasina Wajid's change of heart and total 180 degree turn on refugees? Less that 3-4 months ago she was adamant about there being no place for them in Bangladesh

And right in time for UN meet?

 

[Slog]

I think the OIC needs to approach the UN to discuss methods of distributing refugees among other Muslim countries. It's wrong on many counts, as it effectively is rubber stamping ethnic cleansing, but what are the alternatives? Left to it's own devices the UN will just stand by and watch as they did in Bosnia.

Yes the Arab countries which did not take in Syrians and Iraqis will accept people who they don't consider 'pure Muslims' in the first place

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Bangladesh vows to support one million Rohingya Muslims fleeing Burma: 'If needed, we'll eat a full meal once a day and share the rest with them'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...flee-burma-million-food-shelter-a7987761.html

 

[big_gamer007]

Bangladeshis have big hearts, my respect for their people and their government has increased tremendously..

Amazing job being done by these guys I hope Myanmar army and government get some sense and stop with this barbaric act..

 

[MenInG]

DHAKA: Bangladesh police have prevented 115 Rohingya refugees from being smuggled to Malaysia in rickety fishing boats, officials said Saturday, but no suspected traffickers were detained.

The group from the Kutupalong camp near Bangladesh´s border with Myanmar -- the biggest refugee settlement in the world -- were stopped as they headed to boats in the Bay of Bengal.

The operation, which took place late Friday, was the latest in a series involving Rohingya refugees seeking to leave squalid camps for Malaysia, a more prosperous Muslim-majority nation.

"We stopped a convoy of 15 auto-rickshaws and rescued 50 men, 39 women and 26 children," Bangladeshi police officer Anwar Hossain told AFP.

"But we could not catch any traffickers."

The officer said the Rohingya, who had already paid the traffickers some money, would be taken back to the camp.

About 740,000 of the Muslim minority Rohingya fled Myanmar for Bangladesh following a brutal military clampdown in the Buddhist-majority nation in August 2017.

They joined another 300,000 Rohingya who have already been living in the overcrowded camps in the Cox´s Bazar area following previous bouts of violence.

Thousands have risked their lives travelling to Malaysia and Thailand by boat when the Bay of Bengal is calm before monsoon season sets in at the end of March.

So far this year, Bangladeshi security forces have stopped more than 300 Rohingya from attempting the trip on small fishing boats, which experts say are not fit for deep-sea navigation.

The group detained Friday was the third prevented from heading to Malaysia this week alone.

The UN refugee agency (UNHCR) has said the vulnerability of Rohingya to trafficking has increased enormously as livelihoods, support networks, and other fundamental systems are disrupted.

"It is hard to comment on the scale of the activity, due to the clandestine nature of the activity," UNHCR spokeswoman Caroline Gluck told AFP.

"The community finds it difficult to speak up."

https://www.geo.tv/latest/233444-bangladesh-stops-115-rohingya-seeking-to-reach-malaysia

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Police in Bangladesh have shot dead two Rohingya refugees in a camp <br><br>The Muslim minority are set to commemorate the second anniversary of their mass influx into Bangladesh from Rakhine after the brutal military campaign<a href="https://t.co/l8yLWH6QIC">https://t.co/l8yLWH6QIC</a> <a href="https://t.co/hD5LWMDtJQ">pic.twitter.com/hD5LWMDtJQ</a></p>— AFP news agency (@AFP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1165251158778290176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[sweep_shot]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Police in Bangladesh have shot dead two Rohingya refugees in a camp <br><br>The Muslim minority are set to commemorate the second anniversary of their mass influx into Bangladesh from Rakhine after the brutal military campaign<a href="https://t.co/l8yLWH6QIC">https://t.co/l8yLWH6QIC</a> <a href="https://t.co/hD5LWMDtJQ">pic.twitter.com/hD5LWMDtJQ</a></p>— AFP news agency (@AFP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1165251158778290176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Bangladesh police said they had shot dead two Rohingya refugees during a gunfight in a refugee camp on Saturday after the pair were accused of killing a ruling party official.

Nearly a million Rohingya live in squalid camps in southeast Bangladesh, 740,000 of whom fled a 2017 military offensive against the Muslim minority in Myanmar.

Rights activists, who asked not to be named, said they believe the two Rohingya men were killed by police in what appeared to be a staged encounter.

The incident comes two days after a second failed attempt to repatriate the refugees, which saw not a single Rohingya turn up to return across the border to conflict-scarred Rakhine state.

"Both men died as they were rushed to a hospital," local police inspector Rasel Ahmad told AFP, adding that the incident took place in Jadimura refugee camp in Cox's Bazar district.

Ahmad said the two Rohingya were shot and critically injured during a manhunt for suspects after a youth wing official of the ruling Awami League party was killed, allegedly by armed refugees.

Awami League official Omar Faruk was shot in the head on Thursday, at a settlement near the border town of Teknaf, Ahmad said.

His murder had sparked anger among the local population, with hundreds of furious people blocking a key highway leading to the camp for hours, burning tyres and vandalising shops visited by refugees.

Ahmad said the two men killed on Saturday had been identified as key suspects in Faruk's killing and added that they had been shot while the officers were ambushed by the suspected criminals.

"It was wrong of the refugees to agitate the locals. We want justice in the quickest possible time," said Abdul Matin, a friend of the deceased politician.

Rohingya refugee Mohammad Saber, who narrowly escaped the mob said, said locals had beaten refugees.

"They threatened us, saying we should leave or else they'd kill us. Why should we get punished if others did something bad?" he said.

Other refugees said the recent bloodshed has created an atmosphere of fear in the camp, where security has been tightened.

The usually busy camp was quiet late Saturday, with roads and shops closed.

Ikbal Hossain, deputy police chief for Cox's Bazar district, said they would take action against those responsible for the violence.

"We have identified some of them. We will bring them to justice at any cost," he told AFP.

The killings came as the Rohingya are set to commemorate the second anniversary of their mass influx into Bangladesh from Rakhine after the brutal military campaign.

UN investigators have said the 2017 violence warrants the prosecution of top Myanmar generals for "genocide".

On Thursday Bangladesh's second attempt to start repatriation of Rohingya back to Myanmar faltered after the refugees said they won't return unless their security is ensured and they were granted citizenship in their homeland.

Source: https://news.yahoo.com/bangladesh-police-shoot-dead-two-rohingya-refugee-camp-115621001.html.

It looks like the refugees killed someone. Police had a gunfight with them and they perished.

 

[sweep_shot]

On Thursday Bangladesh's second attempt to start repatriation of Rohingya back to Myanmar faltered after the refugees said they won't return unless their security is ensured and they were granted citizenship in their homeland.

I do not understand this part. Refugees are not in a position to make demands. Bangladesh is not a huge country and we don't have enough space for refugees. We can keep them for a few years but eventually they will have to go back. Our country is already way overpopulated.

UN should step in and do something about this mess.

 

[sweep_shot]

I do not propose sending refugees back to Myanmar. I propose UN giving them shelter.

Also, Myanmar should receive sanctions.

 

[Rellu_Katta]

200,000 Rohingya rally to mark 'Genocide Day' in Bangladesh camps


Some 200,000 Rohingya rallied in a Bangladesh refugee camp to mark two years since they fled a violent crackdown by Myanmar forces, just days after a second failed attempt to repatriate the refugees.

Around 740,000 Rohingya from Myanmar's Rakhine state escaped in August 2017 during the brutal offensive, joining another 200,000 who fled earlier persecution in vast camps in southeast Bangladesh.

Children, hijab-wearing women, and men in long-skirt lungis shouted "God is Great, Long Live Rohingya" as they marched at the heart of the world's largest refugee camp to commemorate what they described as "Genocide Day".


Under the scorching sun, thousands joined in a popular song with the lyrics "the world does not listen to the woes of Rohingya".

I have come here to seek justice for the murder of my two sons. I will continue to seek justice till my last breath," 50-year-old Tayaba Khatun said as tears rolled down her cheeks.

Myanmar had said they were conducting counter-insurgency operations against Rohingya extremists after they attacked police posts, but the UN last year called for Myanmar's top generals to be prosecuted for genocide over the crisis.

Rohingya leader Mohib Ullah said the stateless minority wanted to return home, but only after they were granted citizenship, their security was ensured and they were allowed to settle back in their villages.


"We have asked the Burmese government for dialogue. But we haven't got any response from them yet," Ullah told the rally.


"We were beaten, killed and raped in Rakhine. But still that is our home. And we want to go back."


Police officer Zakir Hassan told AFP some 200,000 Rohingya took part in the peaceful gathering.


Security has been tight across Kutupalang camp, the world's largest refugee settlement and home to more than 600,000 Rohingya.


Source

https://www.dawn.com/news/1501596/200000-rohingya-rally-to-mark-genocide-day-in-bangladesh-camps

 

[cricketjoshila]

I do not understand this part. Refugees are not in a position to make demands. Bangladesh is not a huge country and we don't have enough space for refugees. We can keep them for a few years but eventually they will have to go back. Our country is already way overpopulated.

UN should step in and do something about this mess.

This is what illegal immigrants do. Make demands when they are in numbers.

 

[MenInG]

Bangladesh’s Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has told the UN rights chief that hundreds of thousands of Rohingya refugees living in overcrowded camps in Bangladesh must return home to Myanmar, from where they had fled waves of violent persecution.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet arrived to Bangladesh’s capital Dhaka on Sunday and visited Rohingya camps in Cox’s Bazar district near the border with Myanmar.

“The Rohingya are nationals of Myanmar and they have to be taken back,” Hasina was quoted as saying by her press secretary, Ihsanul Karim, on Wednesday.

The mostly Muslim Rohingya community has faced widespread discrimination in Buddhist-majority Myanmar, where most are denied citizenship and many other rights.

More than 700,000 Rohingya have fled Myanmar since August 2017, crossing the border to Bangladesh when the Myanmar military launched a “clearance operation” against them following attacks by a rebel group. The security situation in Myanmar has worsened following a military takeover last year.

“Unfortunately the current situation across the border means that the conditions are not right for returns,” Bachelet told reporters in the Bangladeshi capital Dhaka.

“Repatriation must always be conducted in a voluntary and dignified manner, only when safe and sustainable conditions exist in Myanmar.”

After almost five years of the refugee crisis, Bangladesh has become increasingly impatient with the presence of its huge refugee population, and Bachelet said she was concerned about “increasing anti-Rohingya rhetoric” and scapegoating of the community.

She added that many refugees were fearful for their safety due to the activity of armed groups and criminal gangs.

Security has been a constant issue in the camps, with killings, kidnappings and police dragnets targeting drug-trafficking networks.

Two Rohingya community leaders were killed earlier this month, allegedly by an armed group active in the camps that has been accused of murdering political opponents.

Al Jazeera’s Tanvir Chowdhury, reporting from Dhaka, said Bangladesh is “questioning the role of Myanmar” in the return of Rohingya refugees.

“Several meetings down the road with the governments of Bangladesh and Myanmar, but nothing has really been achieved,” Chowdhury said.

Bangladesh said that Myanmar has dragged on its promises to start the repatriation process, “meanwhile here [Bangladesh] the environment is getting increasingly hostile towards the Rohingya refugees,” Chowdhury added.

Earlier this month, Bangladesh sought cooperation from China in repatriating Rohingya to Myanmar during a visit by Foreign Minister Wang Yi. China had brokered a November 2017 agreement with Myanmar aimed at sending refugees back.

Hasina and several Cabinet ministers earlier expressed frustration about what they called Myanmar’s inaction in taking them back under the agreement. The UN and Bangladesh authorities have tried at least twice to begin repatriations, but the refugees refused to go, citing safety concerns in Myanmar.

When Bachelet visited the camps on Wednesday, refugees urged the UN to help improve safety inside Myanmar so they can return.

The UN said in a statement that the refugees described “their grievances, their pains” to Bachelet.

“The UN is doing the best we can to support them. We’ll continue doing that,” she said. “But we also need to deal with the profound roots of the problem. We need to deal with that and ensure that they can go back to Myanmar – when there are conditions for safety and voluntary return.”

In March, the United States said the oppression of Rohingya in Myanmar amounts to genocide after authorities confirmed accounts of mass atrocities against civilians by Myanmar’s military in a widespread and systematic campaign against the ethnic minority.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/17/rohingya-refugees-have-to-be-taken-back-bangladesh-pm-says