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Top Chinese health official admits country's COVID-19 vaccines 'don't have very high protection rate

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The director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, has admitted Chinese coronavirus vaccines "don't have very high protection rates".

In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country's top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to get a boost.

Chinese vaccines "don't have very high protection rates," said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference on Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.

Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses abroad while trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine made using the previously experimental messenger RNA, or mRNA, process.

"It's now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunisation process," Mr Gao said.

Officials at a news conference on Sunday didn't respond directly to questions about Gao's comment or possible changes in official plans.

But another CDC official said developers were working on mRNA-based vaccines.

Mr Gao did not respond to a phone call requesting further comment.

"The mRNA vaccines developed in our country have also entered the clinical trial stage," said the official, Wang Huaqing. He gave no timeline for possible use.

Experts say mixing vaccines, or sequential immunisation, might boost effectiveness.

Researchers in Britain are studying a possible combination of Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca vaccine.

The pandemic, which began in central China in late 2019, marks the first time the Chinese drug industry has played a role in responding to a global health emergency.

Vaccines made by Sinovac, a private company, and Sinopharm, a state-owned firm, have made up the majority of Chinese vaccines distributed to countries including Mexico, Turkey, Indonesia, Hungary, Brazil and Turkey.

The effectiveness of a Sinovac vaccine at preventing symptomatic infections was found to be as low as 50.4 per cent by researchers in Brazil, near the 50 per cent threshold at which health experts say a vaccine is useful.

By comparison, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has been found to be 97 per cent effective.

Health experts say Chinese vaccines are unlikely to be sold to the United States, western Europe and Japan due to the complexity of the approval process.

A Sinovac spokesman, Liu Peicheng, acknowledged varying levels of effectiveness have been found but said that can be due to the age of people in a study, the strain of virus and other factors.

Beijing has yet to approve any foreign vaccines for use in China.

Gao gave no details of possible changes in strategy but cited mRNA as a possibility.

"Everyone should consider the benefits mRNA vaccines can bring for humanity," he said.

"We must follow it carefully and not ignore it just because we already have several types of vaccines already."

As of April 2, some 34 million people in China have received both of the two doses required for Chinese vaccines and about 65 million received one, according to Gao.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/top-chi...accines-don-t-have-very-high-protection-rates
 
50% effectiveness is too low. But then again, it’s a Chinese product. Expectations must be kept low.
 
Comparing Chinese vaccine to Pfizer or Oxford vaccine is a jjoke

There is a reason why chinese never published their data.
 
On topic, this mad vaccine rush is so discomforting. I hope the makers are not playing with the lives of people.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55642648

A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac has been found to be 50.4% effective in Brazilian clinical trials, according to the latest results released by researchers.

It shows the vaccine is significantly less effective than previous data suggested - barely over the 50% needed for regulatory approval.

The Chinese vaccine is one of two that the Brazilian government has lined up.

Brazil has been one of the countries worst affected by Covid-19.

Sinovac, a Beijing-based biopharmaceutical company, is behind CoronaVac, an inactivated vaccine. It works by using killed viral particles to expose the body's immune system to the virus without risking a serious disease response.

Several countries, including Indonesia, Turkey and Singapore, have placed orders for the vaccine. Last week researchers at the Butantan Institute, which has been conducting the trials in Brazil, announced that the vaccine had a 78% efficacy against "mild-to-severe" Covid-19 cases.

But on Tuesday they revealed that calculations for this figure did not include data from a group of "very mild infections" among those who received the vaccine that did not require clinical assistance.

With the inclusion of this data, the efficacy rate is now 50.4%, said researchers.

But Butantan stressed that the vaccine is 78% effective in preventing mild cases that needed treatment and 100% effective in staving off moderate to serious cases.

The Sinovac trials have yielded different results across different countries.

Last month Turkish researchers said the Sinovac vaccine was 91.25% effective, while Indonesia, which rolled out its mass vaccination programme on Wednesday, said it was 65.3% effective. Both were interim results from late-stage trials. The latest figures for China's coronavirus vaccine show just how difficult it is to compare vaccines.

On the face of it, the 50% effectiveness figure isn't as good as Oxford's 70% or Pfizer and Moderna's 95%. But trials are run very differently in different countries - the numbers of volunteers enrolled varies wildly, as do the criteria used to test how much protection the vaccines offer.

A figure for efficacy is reached by looking at how many people developed Covid after being given the vaccine, compared with how many were affected when given a dummy injection. Normally, that is based on people developing obvious symptoms but in this Brazilian trial, people with no symptoms also appear to have been included.

So it's only when the full data from all trials of this vaccine are published that scientists can analyse its real efficacy, and compare like with like. Only limited data for this Sinovac vaccine is currently available - and experts say that is confusing the picture.

In the long term, many vaccines against Covid are needed to vaccinate the world and, inevitably, some will perform better than others - but giving as many people as possible some protection is the priority.

There has been concern and criticism that Chinese vaccine trials are not subject to the same scrutiny and levels of transparency as its Western counterparts.

Both the Sinovac vaccine and the vaccine developed by Oxford University and pharmaceutical firm AstraZeneca have requests for emergency use authorisation pending with regulators in Brazil. The latest news comes as Brazil is dealing with a major spike in cases. The country currently has the third highest number of Covid-19 cases in the world at over 8.1 million, just behind the US and India.

The BBC World Service's Americas editor Candace Piette says the country is suffering one of the world's deadliest outbreaks but as yet, has not announced when its vaccination programme will begin.

The delay has been caused in large part by the government's haphazard and divided approach to vaccination, says our correspondent.
 
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Does it include Sinopharm? I have taken two jabs of Sinopharm
 
Brazil is still using Chinese vaccine but their health regulator denied permission to import indian made covaxin.
 
Does it include Sinopharm? I have taken two jabs of Sinopharm

Sinopharm and Sinovac are the 2 main Chinese Covid vaccines so he was referring to both but specifically pointing out Sinovac
The good thing about them is that side effects are less than AZ and Pfizer/J&J. That comes at a cost of lesser efficacy
 
This news was published in a popular FB page in the UAE.
Even though it is a Chinese official talking, those who dont want to see will claim it is western propaganda which is what happened in that page as well
 
Unfortunately Pakistan has no choice whatsoever but to use vaccines from China, vaccine diplomacy is an extension of realpolitik now. Owing to the disastrous and incompetent foreign policy of the past decade, Pakistan doesn't possess any sway to source vaccines from the west. It's the public that pays the price ultimately.
 
Unfortunately Pakistan has no choice whatsoever but to use vaccines from China, vaccine diplomacy is an extension of realpolitik now. Owing to the disastrous and incompetent foreign policy of the past decade, Pakistan doesn't possess any sway to source vaccines from the west. It's the public that pays the price ultimately.

Not just sway, Pak does not have any money to purchase the vaccine. They have no choice but to rely on free or loaned vaccines.

If only countries choose to spend on providing healthcare & education facilities to public, instead of war mongering & wasting money on mindless defense.
 
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My uncle got both the jabs of the Sinovac vaccine.

Guess what

He got Covid and is in bad health.
 
Unfortunately Pakistan has no choice whatsoever but to use vaccines from China, vaccine diplomacy is an extension of realpolitik now. Owing to the disastrous and incompetent foreign policy of the past decade, Pakistan doesn't possess any sway to source vaccines from the west. It's the public that pays the price ultimately.

Pakistan does have choice. They can use the damn money to procure good vaccines. The govt isn't buying any.
 
Pakistan does have choice. They can use the damn money to procure good vaccines. The govt isn't buying any.

Which money? PPP and PMLN ate it all. Easy to type on your keyboard. First destroy the country and then curse the current government.
 
Pakistan does have choice. They can use the damn money to procure good vaccines. The govt isn't buying any.

It's not just a question of money, most vaccine manufacturers have order backlogs that won't clear till Q3 at least. The priority will always be countries where the manufacturers are based. Even the EU is struggling to source vaccines. Pakistan has no chance under the circumstances even if they choose to dip into the public exchequer.
 
It's not just a question of money, most vaccine manufacturers have order backlogs that won't clear till Q3 at least. The priority will always be countries where the manufacturers are based. Even the EU is struggling to source vaccines. Pakistan has no chance under the circumstances even if they choose to dip into the public exchequer.

Many countries pre ordered the vaccines.
 
Pakistan never had any intention to procure any vaccines from the west, given the deplorable status quo with China.

Is Pakistan going to risk lives of its people for chinese business?

If they are, shouldn't the ordinary people object and get such a government removed?
 
My uncle got both the jabs of the Sinovac vaccine.

Guess what

He got Covid and is in bad health.

But he should have got most of the antibodies and he should have been protected from the worst impacts of CV, or did that not happen
 
people in Chile have taken it and covid is still rampant which shows the chiense and russian vaccines dont work, they need to be tested outside in other countries to get acurate resuilts.
 
people in Chile have taken it and covid is still rampant which shows the chiense and russian vaccines dont work, they need to be tested outside in other countries to get acurate resuilts.

Russian vaccine data has been peer reviewed abd published. Chinese have not published their data.

Big difference.
 
Did Imran Khan get the Chinese vaccine?
Or the Pfizer one?

Whatever he had, didn’t save him from catching Covid.
 
Did Imran Khan get the Chinese vaccine?
Or the Pfizer one?

Whatever he had, didn’t save him from catching Covid.

He did that doesn't mean other western countries vaccines are better protecting you from the virus if you get them.
Even they don't protect you from catching the virus like 2000 people in Israel did after taking the pfizer vaccine.
 
My uncle got both the jabs of the Sinovac vaccine.

Guess what

He got Covid and is in bad health.

This has happened to plenty of people who have taken AZ and Sinopharm as well
For Prizer, I have heard of lesser cases of people who took both doses but still got hit badly by Covid
 
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