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Season 2's first 2 episodes were extremely dull where as its later half has been brilliant..... I felt asleep in the second episode during day time while episode 6 kept me awake at 4 am.

So, if you get bored in first 2 or 3 episodes don't leave it....it gets better and better and exciting.
 
It's more complicated and TOTALLY different from season 1.

Season 1 was more talky and had a slight tinge of southern gothic horror to it. The mystery was terrific though and the reveal shocking.

Season 2 is more action-oriented and with a more film noir feel (like L.A. confidential, Chinatown) and a very complex, serpentine plot. It's unraveling nicely though and the episodes have been getting better. Cannot wait for the finale.

I personally like season 2 more mostly because i dislike Matthew McConaughey's drawl though I'm in the minority.

You may not appreciate his theories but his voice and acting make his role very enjoyable.
 
I am afraid to read because of spoilers...is true detective 2nd season good? As good as one?

Season 2 is more on Real estate and imo its pretty good.With the new capital of Andhra being setup its a pretty good season to watch.
 
Very dark but very good ending to season 2.

Overall I think the show steadily improved as it went, and although its not on the level of the original (lets be honest it could never live up to that hype) it still ends up a damn good season.

Gutted for Frank and Ray but I guess we all knew they'd get the bullet at some point. But I'm happy they went with a dark ending and didnt try make everything look falsely happy like other shows
 
I've not watched season 2 yet and it generally has mixed reviews online, lets be honest it's a bit unfair comparing season 2 to the first which was probably amongst the ATG first seasons. Having said that I will probably enjoy it since [MENTION=95766]leatherface58[/MENTION] likes it, we have good taste :afridi
 
Not a tasteful ending tbh. Velcoro's and Frank's ending became too obvious and dare i say cliched. Especially when they went with that stupid plan of theirs which was not really needed in the scheme of things. I really wanted the Lieutenant to die though, so gutted that he got away.
 
Season 2 finale was overlong and involved characters making too many dumb decisions in the name of flaws.

The killer was also shown as a pretty pathetic individual which was probably the intention.

I did like Vince Vaughn this season. A terrific performance. Farrell was excellent, McAdams was good and Kitsch improved.

Kelly Reilly was spectacularly underused. Cliched supporting wife role. I thought there was a curveball somewhere but sadly no.

Overall, a good season. Liked season 1's mystery more than this one which was rather convoluted. Nice references to LA Confidential strewn throughout.
 
Season 2 didnt match the awesomeness Season 1 was. However, it was good nonetheless. Started slow but became real good in the later stages before having an absolutely awful cliched finale.

The way the two characters plot ended was so cliched that it was disappointing to see shallowness from such a 'deep' show.

The really didnt need to go with the robbery plan when they were going to throw the money in the end anyway. :facepalm: Also, the scene where ray goes to see his son was cliched like hell. The ending brought tears to my eyes especially after seeing the patrienty test.

I hope the S3 switches back to occult.
 
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Also Farell was the best among-st the actors. Loved Ray Velcoro and Conway's Rose. Episode 2's starting remains one of the best parts of the show.
 
Ep 3*^

Also, did anyone notice that in EP 3 Ray's end was already foretold in that dream sequence. :murali
 
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Sorry. Fanboying so hard right now because i love the show. My favorite quote from season 2 is ep 5 around the 24 min mark where they have this cool dubstep music ( which i havent been able to find, any help [MENTION=136108]Donal Cozzie[/MENTION] ?):
Loyalty is important and usually painful. One day you might find cause to ask yourself that is there any limit to the pain you are experiencing. You will find out that there is no limit at all. Pain is inexhaustible. Its only people who get exhausted.
 
I thought the show had some great scenes, characters, good setting and nice music but all the good elements were diluted into this great mass of mediocrity which ruined them. The deaths in the last episode would have carried more weight if the whole show hadn't been ripe with stupid plot, dialogue and acting.
 
I thought the show had some great scenes, characters, good setting and nice music but all the good elements were diluted into this great mass of mediocrity which ruined them. The deaths in the last episode would have carried more weight if the whole show hadn't been ripe with stupid plot, dialogue and acting.

I think many people including me felt awkward with the plot because they have very less idea about how shady the real estate dealings are or how they go. You can say that they touched upon a niche theme. You cant blame the acting, it was superb. Music was the best part.
 
I got hooked on to the show for Rachel McAdams. I thought all the leading characters did exceedingly well. The show had me hooked on till the end, except for the last episode. I think i will now go and watch season 1. Hearing that it is better than season 2.
 
I think many people including me felt awkward with the plot because they have very less idea about how shady the real estate dealings are or how they go. You can say that they touched upon a niche theme. You cant blame the acting, it was superb. Music was the best part.

CF and Kitsch were ok but VV and McAdams seemed like they were playing caricatures of their characters. VV, especially, had a very wooden delivery. The way he mumbled some of his lines ''Me? mdfdfkfms mfsdlmssfl sh*t mlfdsmjfs smfmldlq Russians mfkdjfsmdjfd loyalty mofjùsfsd father mjfdsljds''
 
The pathetic ending took this season from goodish to the mediocrity level.

There was nothing much in 80 minutes of final episode, except slow death for couple of leading actors. And the gloomy look of the whole season ended with even more sadness, rather i should say the ending was a failed attempt to leave a lasting impression by creating a tragic melancholy which in fact was not tragic but plain or unadorned.
 
True Detective: What we know about season 3

The third season of True Detective has been greenlit, with HBO announcing indie filmmaker Jeremy Saulnier as its new director.

The network giant has finally put rumours to rest, revealing details of what is now the most anticipated show of 2018.

According to Deadline, Saulnier will pick up where Cary Joji Fukunaga left off - leaving behind the troubled second season, when six different directors shared eight episodes.

By all accounts, this is great news.

First, because both HBO and creator Nic Pizzolatto realised they made a mistake with season two.

Second, because Saulnier is one of the most promising - and overlooked - young directors working today.

You might not have heard of him, but the 41-year-old filmmaker was the belle of the ball at Cannes' Directors Fortnight in 2013 and 2015.

His second feature film Blue Ruin won the FIPRESCI Prize on the French Riviera, meaning it got the vote of the International Federation of Film Critics.

The crime thriller, all funded with a Kickstarter campaign, also grabbed the attention of the Indie Spirit Awards and launched the career of actor/director Macon Blair, who starred in the film's main role.

Blair now has a contract with Netflix and directed a film of his own, the Sundance gem I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore.

The apple does not fall far from the tree, and you can see Saulnier's influence in Blair's work.

Saulnier is an aesthetic director, who chooses a single colour in each of his films to share between the title and the cinematography.

After Blue Ruin, he directed Patrick Stewart and the late Anton Yelchin in the violent thriller Green Room. His next film will be titled Hold The Dark, and stars Riley Keough and Alexander Skarsgard.

His passion for crime thrillers and his care for ambience make Saulnier the perfect choice for the gritty, noir feel of True Detective.

The same can be said about Mahershala Ali, the Oscar-winning actor confirmed for the main role.

Ali will play the lead role of Wayne Hays, a state police detective from northwest Arkansas investigating a mystery "that deepens over decades and plays out in three separate time periods".

"Nic has written truly remarkable scripts," said HBO president Casey Bloys.

"With his ambitious vision and Mahershala Ali and Jeremy Saulnier aboard, we are excited to embark on the next instalment of True Detective."

After the swamps and dark marshes of Louisiana and the fume-infested factories of California, this time Pizzolatto has chosen the Ozarks for his next crime.

Although it is a fitting setup for a crime thriller - the timing could not have been worse.

Last month, Netflix released its own crime drama starring Jason Bateman, set in the Ozarks. It is called Ozark.

Unfortunately, that's not the only thing wrong with the show.

Pizzolatto, whose creative war with Fukunaga cost him the success of season two, has signed up for directing a few episodes of the show.

We fear the worst, given the writer's apparent inability to discern dialogues which work on paper from those which work on screen.

Luckily, he will have the valuable help of Deadwood creator David Milch, whose contract with HBO got him the opportunity to write one episode of the show.

"I'm tremendously thrilled to be working with artists at the level of Mahershala and Jeremy," Pizzolatto said.

"I hope the material can do justice to their talents, and we're all very excited to tell this story."

We hope so to.

http://news.sky.com/story/true-detective-what-we-know-about-season-3-11021624
 
I was very angry when Hannibal was discontinued after season 3. They gave it a pathetic timeslot at like 11:30 pm on a weekday by which time no one would watch it despite 2 amazing seasons and so due to low amount of views they killed it. The premise was similar with a detective type setting but a lot of depth.

TD looks like that, so will start it soon.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed season 1 but did not catch season 2, heard it was no where near as good although I like Colin Farell
 
Yeah don't bother with 2nd one

Hope they come up with something better this time ratter than milking a cow.
 
Got onto True Detective Season 1 and its gripped me for the last week. It left me wanting more which is exactly what you want in a TV show.

Really liked the nonlinear narrative style where they jump back and forth between two time periods. The character development is superb and the chemistry between Hart and Cohle is gold. The setting is so eerie and foreboding. Yes Cohle's ramblings can get a little grating but it didn't impact on my enjoyment of the show.

The resolution was criticised but I had no issues with it. A lot of questions were left unresolved, many of the internet theories unrealised, but it fits the theme of the show. In life, nothing can ever be wrapped up in a neat box.

They may not have gotten THE guy but they got THEIR guy.
 
Got onto True Detective Season 1 and its gripped me for the last week. It left me wanting more which is exactly what you want in a TV show.

Really liked the nonlinear narrative style where they jump back and forth between two time periods. The character development is superb and the chemistry between Hart and Cohle is gold. The setting is so eerie and foreboding. Yes Cohle's ramblings can get a little grating but it didn't impact on my enjoyment of the show.

The resolution was criticised but I had no issues with it. A lot of questions were left unresolved, many of the internet theories unrealised, but it fits the theme of the show. In life, nothing can ever be wrapped up in a neat box.

They may not have gotten THE guy but they got THEIR guy.

Well said, probably up there as the greatest tv mini series ever.
Cohle's ramblings are actually my favourite part of the show, he dives deep into nihilistic philosophies of the old and I love that it is so well embedded into his persona.
 
Yeah don't bother with 2nd one

Hope they come up with something better this time ratter than milking a cow.

Yes season 2 had a lot to live up to but faltered.

Hopefully season 3 will be as good as season 1.
 
About to start watching season 3.

Anyone seen it?
 
I have.. this season starts very much in the same vain as season one. We have two vietnam veterans now detectives mahershala Ali is a brilliant actor and stephen dorf is pretty good as well. One timeline is in the 70s, then the 80s and then 2015 i believe.

So far its been pretty darn good. Although i think who dunnit already and am pretty confident in my theory..
 
It’s excellent. Set in 1980, 1990 and 2015?

Ali is super and the British lady playing his wife is tops too.
 
You are right.. i stand corrected.. its 80s, 90s and then 2015.. and all the actors have been excellent so far..
 
3 episodes in, it's superb.

Brilliant acting, nearly as good as the first series.
 
There are theories similar to mine out there on who dunnit but its becoming too obvious now so its probably a red herring
 
I was wondering how Roland got his limp in 1990. Now we know...
 
outstanding so far, outstanding.

On par with S1. If it can provide a better twist I'd say it'll surpass it.

TV at its best
 
What are the thoughts on finale? Surprised? Disappointed? Happy?
 
What are the thoughts on finale? Surprised? Disappointed? Happy?

Surprised and quite pleased. I enjoyed the way that Purple’s memories reorganised in a way where he finally solved the mystery for our benefit, even though he forgot it himself!

Didn’t have the emotional payoff of season one, but still top-line television.
 
Surprised and quite pleased. I enjoyed the way that Purple’s memories reorganised in a way where he finally solved the mystery for our benefit, even though he forgot it himself!

Didn’t have the emotional payoff of season one, but still top-line television.

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While I appreciated the acting (one of the greatest I have seen on television), I have been bothered by few things. For example, we never learn about the fate of Purple's wife. They seem to reconcile when Purple decides to leave the job for second time but nothing else is mentioned about their life afterwards. For example when and how she died or if they still had a happy marriage after the story line ends. Purple also seems to have complicated relationship with his daughter. We don't know why she left him and when they meet, she mentions " I am missing you right now". What exactly does it mean?

Then there is that mysterious journalist. Nothing is mentioned about her background and she seems to know more about the case than Purple himself despite Purple being the best detective and he has been investigating the case for decades. How can it be?

Moreover, I was bit disappointed with the "final villain". After all this hype, that's not exactly what I was looking. I guess I didn't see any point in foreshadowing the events from the first season if they wreren't going to be connected in the end.

Overall, I would give it 8 out of 10. Occasionally brilliant and overall solid throughout.
 
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