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On another thread,pakistani posters think that Pant is like Umar Akmal who will score couple of good boundaries and then get out.

Some may point out that Akmal like Pant scored a 150 againist v good fast bowling away from home.

I believe that Pant is a lot better than Akmal and at 21 he has shown immense ability.

What are your thoughts.
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Pant will be a excellent player. PP have no patience. Expecting a 21 year old player to be perfect. He will need time to adjust.

He is a much better talent than Umar Akmal.
 
Umar Akmal was much better at the start of his career but Pant will probably surpass him as Umar hasn't gone on to make great things.
 
Umar was 19 when he scored 129 and 75 in that famous Test match against NZ in NZ.
 
Rishabh Pant should be our opener in T20Is and ODIs

Looked comfortable against swing yesterday
 
Hahahaha joshila Bhai trying so hard to make Umar akmal comparison luck rub onto Pant.
 
cricketjoshila said:
On another thread,pakistani posters think that Pant is like Umar Akmal who will score couple of good boundaries and then get out.

Some may point out that Akmal like Pant scored a 150 againist v good fast bowling away from home.

I believe that Pant is a lot better than Akmal and at 21 he has shown immense ability.

What are your thoughts.

[MENTION=150544]Rellu_Katta[/MENTION]

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I havent seen that much of Pant to make a concrete decision but one thing that is def in favour of Pant is that he has a strong set of individuals around him who 9/10 times will take pressure off him and let him play his natural game and guide him through... and bcz they are such big PERFORMING names that Pant will be listning to them

for UA, it was not the case, fame got to his head, he was supposed to be the king of now rather than king in 2 years.. no father figure and no realization of hard work.

i think UA was okiesh but my gut feeling tells me u r right.. pant is better at the min vs UA of 21 but i hope he goes UA's way too ( for opposition sake :P lol , just a joke )
 
It is so lame that a 21 year old guy is getting so much of a criticism by the fans.

He wasn't even backed well by team management.
 
cricketjoshila said:
On another thread,pakistani posters think that Pant is like Umar Akmal who will score couple of good boundaries and then get out.

Some may point out that Akmal like Pant scored a 150 againist v good fast bowling away from home.

I believe that Pant is a lot better than Akmal and at 21 he has shown immense ability.

What are your thoughts.

[MENTION=150544]Rellu_Katta[/MENTION]

Continue the discussion here.
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but on other hand,,,, where UA was better than Pant was his technique... pant has his own way of playing , very unorthadox but will struggle in swinging conditions against good pace.... UA was able to negate that bcz he was a lot more orthadox than Pant .... only time will tell where Pant goes bcz UA for me can go live in a gutter
 
What has Pant achieved so far? He looked alright in tests but wait till he plays a couple more seasons. In ODIs, he always seems rushed. I'm not saying Akmal is some kind of a legend but Pant has not shown promise yet. He can still get better though. To his advantage, he will get an extended run in Indian middle order now with Dhoni retiring, Karthik and Jadhav due to be thrown out.
 
Umar Akmal is not mentally stable.

Pant is and will continue to be 10X the player he was and is.
 
Both are talented and maybe of same caliber. The only difference is that Umar akmal doesn't use his brain or doesn't have one. Probably the male version of Pakistani actress Meera imo. Pant's mental capability is yet to be known.
 
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Pant is good but not as good as people make him out to be imo (no offence). Still better than Umar ”I attend an Akon concert during a series” Akmal.

:ua
 
Umar was a beast when he started.

And played with a lot of assurance, ease, dominance.

Pant can't match that. He's not even close to peak Umar Akmal.

However, we then saw UAs decline. First Pant has to match peak Umar, then he can overtake him if he does not decline or fade away.

Quite a road ahead.
 
Hawkeye said:
Umar was a beast when he started.

And played with a lot of assurance, ease, dominance.

Pant can't match that. He's not even close to peak Umar Akmal.

However, we then saw UAs decline. First Pant has to match peak Umar, then he can overtake him if he does not decline or fade away.

Quite a road ahead.
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He scored centuries in his debut series against England and Australia.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He scored centuries in his debut series against England and Australia.
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Maybe. But if he scored them the way he was batting vs. England and NZ, then seems like a joke.

Looked like a clown and headless chicken under lights.

Umar used to play with so much ease against the best bowlers and take them apart.

Because of the batting culture, it's likely that Pant will improve and not fade away, which will then give him an edge.
 
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People like to act all smart now and say umar never had much to him but he was loaded with talent.
 
Pant scored attacking centuries in his debut tours in England and Australia. On the other hand, Dhoni has not scored a single century in any format outside Asia in his entire career and he has played over 500 international games. Let that sink in.

He's all set to be one of the greatest wicket-keeper batsman of all time.
 
Hawkeye said:
Maybe. But if he scored them the way he was batting vs. England and NZ, then seems like a joke.

Looked like a clown and headless chicken under lights.

Umar used to play with so much ease against the best bowlers and take them apart.

Because of the batting culture, it's likely that Pant will improve and not fade away, which will then give him an edge.
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He does look like a headless chicken though. Because he doesn't use his brain and play shots like a proper mohalle wala tullaybaaz. :inti
 
I had few expectations earlier from Pant but now I give up. Akmal didn't have the temperament but his talent was never in question. Pant is not as talented and has equally bad temperament. Akmal all the way.
 
Really no chance for Rishabh for a comeback. A lookalike of Umar Akmal.
 
KL Rahul has perfectly filled the Keeper spot in LOI cricket. Pant has no chance now.

Even in Test Cricket, Pant's spot is not guaranteed. KL might take that spot too. Pant has himself to blame here. He was given a long enough rope. He had his moments, but overall failed to grab all the chances he got.

The same goes to Samson. He is not utilizing them.

For the moment, KL will be the keeper batsman. It also allows India to fit in Pandya easily in all formats without disturbing the team composition.
 
troodon said:
KL Rahul has perfectly filled the Keeper spot in LOI cricket. Pant has no chance now.

Even in Test Cricket, Pant's spot is not guaranteed. KL might take that spot too. Pant has himself to blame here. He was given a long enough rope. He had his moments, but overall failed to grab all the chances he got.

The same goes to Samson. He is not utilizing them.

For the moment, KL will be the keeper batsman. It also allows India to fit in Pandya easily in all formats without disturbing the team composition.
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KL is a makeshift keeper at his best and is only two series old. Also he is injury prone too. So we have to wait for couple of series to assess his real worth.
And in Test cricket, its a Hell No. We need specialist keepers in Test cricket.
 
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Ab Fan said:
Really no chance for Rishabh for a comeback. A lookalike of Umar Akmal.
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To those who don't understand, I am sarcastic here.

Pant is destined to be India's long term solution.
 
Pant will come off good. He is just 21 years old and has plenty of time on his side to improve himself. His talent was never a question.

Umar is a finished product who should never represent the Pakistani team again in the future.
 
At the moment it is Umar Akmal versus Umar Akmal. The only person who is hurting his career is himself.
 
I think in recent times all the 'Umar Akmal vs xyz' threads have been created by Indian posters, who badly want all their batsmen to become another Virat Kohli.
 
Pant has a long way to go as a batsman especially mentally. Technically he is not that horrible. He should first focus on keeping. His keeping is substandard.
 
Lol, actually few months ago i saw a thread "Umar Akmal vs KL Rahul" created by some Indian poster and it was the time when KL Rahul was not performing but now you can see he has started performing.
 
Kaddy said:
I think in recent times all the 'Umar Akmal vs xyz' threads have been created by Indian posters, who badly want all their batsmen to become another Virat Kohli.
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Jor Jor Se Bolke Sabko Scheme Bata de!
 
Kaddy said:
Lol, actually few months ago i saw a thread "Umar Akmal vs KL Rahul" created by some Indian poster and it was the time when KL Rahul was not performing but now you can see he has started performing.
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He is more useful to India now :)
 
India's future batting looks secure with below names trying their best to cement their place.

Prithvi Shaw
Shubham Gill
Shreyas Iyer
KL Rahul
Rishabh Pant
Yashasvi Jaiswal
 
Ab Fan said:
India's future batting looks secure with below names trying their best to cement their place.

Prithvi Shaw
Shubham Gill
Shreyas Iyer
KL Rahul
Rishabh Pant
Yashasvi Jaiswal
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Add Manish Pandey and Sarfaraz Khan to the list.
 
Lol Indian fans like mamoon are nowhere to be seen on this thread apparently who he was so sure about that pant would be the next superstar in world cricket is being compared to the likes of Umar Akmal now. Even Indians have given up on him now.
 
Mean&Green said:
Lol Indian fans like mamoon are nowhere to be seen on this thread apparently who he was so sure about that pant would be the next superstar in world cricket is being compared to the likes of Umar Akmal now. Even Indians have given up on him now.
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Eh?

Nothing has changed. Pant is a sensational talent and he will be a top player for India for 15 years. He is just going through a lean patch which is part of his learning curve.

He is India’s Gilchrist and the most talented WK batsman to emerge out of the subcontinent since Dhoni in 2004-05.

BCCI have given him an A contract in spite of your assumption that India has given up on him. They haven’t and they won’t, because even a team like India can’t produce talents like him all the time.

Our fans are setting themselves up for disappointment as usual. They never learn. You can laugh and make fun now, but you will see where Pant stands in the game 10 years from now.
 
Mean&Green said:
Lol Indian fans like mamoon are nowhere to be seen on this thread apparently who he was so sure about that pant would be the next superstar in world cricket is being compared to the likes of Umar Akmal now. Even Indians have given up on him now.
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He comes out during these scenerios:

Pakistan lose at any level ie U19, U21, U23, Men, Women, kids
Media releases bad news about Pakistani players
India wins at any level ie Tape ball Cricket
IPL
 
Pant is pure gold. His personality and attitude are so chill, don't expect him to care too much about the drops he's been handed from the team.
 
pillionrider said:
Pant is pure gold. His personality and attitude are so chill, don't expect him to care too much about the drops he's been handed from the team.
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Exactly, also most Indian players, if not in national squad, look forward to the IPL tournament $$$$$$$$
 
Paka Lahori said:
Exactly, also most Indian players, if not in national squad, look forward to the IPL tournament $$$$$$$$
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And the amazing thing about it is that they can devote the rest of the time to improving their cricket without worrying about financial security. When I was growing up, becoming a cricketer was not a career option. Thanks to IPL sports is a valid career goal now.

Nothing wrong with IPL$
 
correction

for now Pant is as useless as Umar. both guys have 0 IQ. If team lost quick wickets you are sure that they wont rebuild the innings instead try for glory shot to hold out.

I still think Pant can turn around bur for me i think we should stop investing in him we should go for S Bharat wo is safe keeper and better batsman for test.
In ODI and T20 Rahul can stay
 
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UA is being pampered by an ex cap misbah ..... While the chosen lazy rishabpant is pampered by the cap and vice captain plus a few useless commentators..... Just imagine this brainless midget is on an grade A contract earning 5 crores per match even if he is a waterboy.....
 
I look at pant and see two test hundreds in difficult situations . Do u think he is more a test player than one day ?
 
vicky11 said:
UA is being pampered by an ex cap misbah ..... While the chosen lazy rishabpant is pampered by the cap and vice captain plus a few useless commentators..... Just imagine this brainless midget is on an grade A contract earning 5 crores per match even if he is a waterboy.....
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5 crores per match?
 
Pant is a hack. Poor technique, too bottom handed player who wants to slog towards cow corner. No offsidet game. Ugly to watch. Umar Akmal is not Kohli but come on guys don't compare him to tulle baaz players.
 
Surely Pant will not go down UK route - UK was probably better than Pant right at the start of his career but surely Pant wont waste his talent - would be a real shame.
 
The famed Umar Akmal comparison thread for a struggling player! :83:

Pant has potential to be a super star wicket keeper. He has to work on his keeping and batting. He will be a match winner for India.
 
Pant's career is over. I can't see India droppig KL Rahul from here. As for UA, we never know what to expect. For all we know he could be in our squad for WC
 
A bit early to judge Pant, although I've not been very impressed with him.

He has time on his side though.
 
Pant will become the next big thing in a couple of years. Pant should thank Umar Akmal and this thread creator. :))
 
Interesting comparison, and quite a few similarities - attacking cricket but not dependable etc. Fortunately, that’s where the comparison ends.

Biggest difference - Pant does not have Akmal genes.
 
If you’re going to make a comparison between Umar Akmal and an Indian WK then it’s got to be with MS Dhoni, nothing less.
 
I expect him to have lots of failures but i expect him to win matches on his own explosive player
 
I see the same similarity and career graph. Not to mention the fitness and their blind fans who will find stupid excuses to justify every failure of theirs. :inti
 
Pant played a very good knock in the context of the game yesterday. I would want him in the team but he needs to keep better going forward.
 
Umar Akmal was gifted but regressed at an unprecedented rate. There’s an excellent post on PP at the insane regression of his game all the way from his stance to temperament- technical and psychological- that I’ve never seen before in cricket.

But if you’re comparing Pant to Umar then you really have low expectations from pants.
 
Next time, compare a player to Babar Azam and watch him underachieve like KL Rahul.
 
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION] bhai playing 5d chess. He knows anyone who gets compared to UA will have this career launched. :D
 
I already said 2021 will be the year to remember for KL, Pandya and Pant.

It already is for Rishabh Pant.

Now, KL should find a place in test cricket as well.
 
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