South Africa (362/6) ease past India (358/5) by 4 wickets in 2nd ODI in Raipur to level series 1-1

[Devadwal]

Hahaha...stop fooling us all. This defeat reinforces one thing it was NEVER your king but my favorite Pandu and others that ended your trophy drought...if you remember we had the same equation today at the end.

I don't need to fooled you because you're already fooling yourself.

 

[Devadwal]

Panoti Tuktukraj

India lost when he scored T20I Hundred.

India lost when he scored ODI Hundred.

More -

Of the 10 IPL hundreds scored for CSK till date, only two have ended in defeats - both by Tuktukraj

 

[TheSultan]

Harshit is too predictable

Harshit is harshit IYKWIM

 

[The Bald Eagle]

this makes 0 sense

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Sword man for you...he needs to retire now

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is what happens when you have someone with zero experience in coaching at any level.

 

[BDfanforever]

Brevis sixes ended the match right there and then. RSA is building monsterous ODI team now with their all-rounders. However, as soon as the going gets tough and slight hint of pressure, i can see them loosing to even Nepal in WC.

 

[CricVet]

Well, Klaasen retired out of his own volition, and calling Bavuma a quota pick is a bit harsh. But yes, there is no comparison between what Klaasen offers in the middle-order, and what pretty much any other batsmen in the world offers.

I have had enough of this reverse racism in the western world. Instead of merit, many western countries have this affirmative action/quota to make up for the past discrimination which is also a hindrance. CSA is no different.

Bavuma is a good/decent test option. In the modern LOIs, having a SR of less than a 100 is not ideal. I get it that he has a good average in ODIs. I have seen him failing though many times when acceleration is needed.

CSA is needed to be proactive preparing for 2027 WC. By having a 37+ year old captain in 2027 is not an ideal preparation.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Still think, the bar is low at the moment for such bowling
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[Independent Observer]

Bruh, that Breetzke & Dewadwal Brevis combo is deadly man. Two low centre of gravity, powerful batters who can rip apart the opposition in minimal amount of time. Will be fun to watch for the next few years.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1996275007899795517

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I have had enough of this reverse racism in the western world. Instead of merit, many western countries have this affirmative action/quota to make up for the past discrimination which is also a hindrance. CSA is no different.

Bavuma is a good/decent test option. In the modern LOIs, having a SR of less than a 100 is not ideal. I get it that he has a good average in ODIs. I have seen him failing though many times when acceleration is needed.

CSA is needed to be proactive preparing for 2027 WC. By having a 37+ year old captain in 2027 is not an ideal preparation.

What do you mean 'western world'? South Africa isn’t a western country, it’s a black-majority nation with a unique and very recent history of racism and apartheid that lasted until the 1990s. That system created deep, long-term inequalities in education, opportunity and wealth, so something like transformation targets exist to address those structural gaps. Also, young black South Africans need role models they can identify with succeeding at the highest level, so they can be inspired to take up the sport. And Bavuma is very much a role model in that regard for a number of reasons. Also, to clarify, CSA’s system isn’t only about black African players, it includes coloured and Indian players as well. And those targets are to be achieved over a given season, not a particular match. At the same time, South Africa already has several players from these groups who make the side purely on merit, like Rabada, Maharaj, de Kock, de Zorzi, Ngidi.

As for Bavuma in the ODI side, obviously it is not ideal. Besides his age, he is also injury prone. But South Africa are invested in him so it doesn't seem like he is going anywhere till 2027. If not him or Klaasen, I would take Stubbs at 3 too.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

India should stop producing these phattas, it gets boring after a bit.

make a pitch where a 270 chase is tough.

 

[TheSultan]

India should stop producing these phattas, it gets boring after a bit.

make a pitch where a 270 chase is tough.

Agreed - the problem with India is, they will never get out of their legacy mindset “our strength is batting and spin bowling”.

They have half decent seam up bowlers now - give them a chance.

 

[Rana]

@Devadwal what was that illegal batting by Brevis? He deserves 3 match ban!

 

[CricVet]

What do you mean 'western world'? South Africa isn’t a western country, it’s a black-majority nation with a unique and very recent history of racism and apartheid that lasted until the 1990s. That system created deep, long-term inequalities in education, opportunity and wealth, so something like transformation targets exist to address those structural gaps. Also, young black South Africans need role models they can identify with succeeding at the highest level, so they can be inspired to take up the sport. And Bavuma is very much a role model in that regard for a number of reasons. Also, to clarify, CSA’s system isn’t only about black African players, it includes coloured and Indian players as well. And those targets are to be achieved over a given season, not a particular match. At the same time, South Africa already has several players from these groups who make the side purely on merit, like Rabada, Maharaj, de Kock, de Zorzi, Ngidi.

As for Bavuma in the ODI side, obviously it is not ideal. Besides his age, he is also injury prone. But South Africa are invested in him so it doesn't seem like he is going anywhere till 2027. If not him or Klaasen, I would take Stubbs at 3 too.

SA was a western ruled country - same differences. What you are saying is basically to select undeserving candidates just to make role models - lets agree to disagree with this kind of social structures. In my experience, this system has created individuals with entitlement issues. Merit should be priority regardless of individual's race/color.

IF it is ok for SA to move forward with Bavuma as skipper, it is their loss and a good opportunity for visitors to beat the hosts in their own backyard.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

SA was a western ruled country - same differences. What you are saying is basically to select undeserving candidates just to make role models - lets agree to disagree with this kind of social structures. In my experience, this system has created individuals with entitlement issues. Merit should be priority regardless of individual's race/color.

IF it is ok for SA to move forward with Bavuma as skipper, it is their loss and a good opportunity for visitors to beat the hosts in their own backyard.

Not really. The US is not a black-majority nation, and its civil-rights movement began in the 1960s. In South Africa apartheid i.e. a complete legal system of segregation, economic exclusion and racial hierarchy lasted until the 1990s. Its effects didn’t disappear overnight, it left massive gaps in access, development and opportunity for blacks, especially in sports like cricket, which were historically dominated by a minority white population. The transformation targets aren’t about “selecting undeserving candidates” they’re about correcting a structural imbalance created by decades of legally enforced exclusion. And as I said, even with these targets, South Africa’s national team is still largely built on merit. Most players of colour in the XI would be picked regardless.

Even with Bavuma they are one of the strongest teams in the world and probably the favorites to win the World Cup in 2027.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

SA was a western ruled country - same differences. What you are saying is basically to select undeserving candidates just to make role models - lets agree to disagree with this kind of social structures. In my experience, this system has created individuals with entitlement issues. Merit should be priority regardless of individual's race/color.

IF it is ok for SA to move forward with Bavuma as skipper, it is their loss and a good opportunity for visitors to beat the hosts in their own backyard.

Not really. The US is not a black-majority nation, and its civil-rights movement began in the 1960s. In South Africa apartheid i.e. a complete legal system of segregation, economic exclusion and racial hierarchy lasted until the 1990s. Its effects didn’t disappear overnight, it left massive gaps in access, development and opportunity for blacks, especially in sports like cricket, which were historically dominated by a minority white population. The transformation targets aren’t about “selecting undeserving candidates” they’re about correcting a structural imbalance created by decades of legally enforced exclusion. And as I said, even with these targets, South Africa’s national team is still largely built on merit. Most players of colour in the XI would be picked regardless.

We can agree to disagree, but you ought to get your facts straight.

Even with Bavuma they are one of the strongest teams in the world and probably the favorites to win the World Cup in 2027.

 

[CricVet]

Not really. The US is not a black-majority nation, and its civil-rights movement began in the 1960s. In South Africa apartheid i.e. a complete legal system of segregation, economic exclusion and racial hierarchy lasted until the 1990s. Its effects didn’t disappear overnight, it left massive gaps in access, development and opportunity for blacks, especially in sports like cricket, which were historically dominated by a minority white population. The transformation targets aren’t about “selecting undeserving candidates” they’re about correcting a structural imbalance created by decades of legally enforced exclusion. And as I said, even with these targets, South Africa’s national team is still largely built on merit. Most players of colour in the XI would be picked regardless.

We can agree to disagree, but you ought to get your facts straight.

Even with Bavuma they are one of the strongest teams in the world and probably the favorites to win the World Cup in 2027.

I got my facts very well straight, and never claimed that whites were majority in SA; I very clearly stated "western ruled". I don't wanna drag this fruitless conversation anymore since in a way, it is borderline off topic/thread.

I never said that they won't be contenders with aged Bavuma - just less stronger.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

South Africa should give more chances to George Linde. They don't really have a viable back-up for Maharaj. And Subrayen looks pretty useless.

 

[globetrotter]

Are you watching it on Star Sports? Can you tell any difference between this match and matches in Pakistan/Bangladesh? It seems me comparing Indian stadiums and broadcast quality with Pak/Ban triggered you. You didn't even talk about Aus, NZ, Eng, SA because you have nothing left to debate. Ja aage ja.

India always have superior facilities as compare to our neighbors

 

[globetrotter]

Match keep mujrim....

1) toss loss, heavy dew in 2nd inning
2) slow batting by Rahul n Jadeja
3) full toss bowling by rana n arshdeep
4) poor fielding show by India
5) no choking by SA

 

[harshjoshi87]

Match keep mujrim....

1) toss loss, heavy dew in 2nd inning
2) slow batting by Rahul n Jadeja
3) full toss bowling by rana n arshdeep
4) poor fielding show by India
5) no choking by SA

But one clown here blaming defeat on Ruturaj

 

[harshjoshi87]

Agreed Jadeja is 36 . He is loosing his hitting ability and also he is not the same bowler anymore. Today his fielding was not good too..may be it's time to replace him with Aksar Patel..

His slow batting & Washington's brainfade completely destroyed the momentum of India's innings built by Ruturaj & Virat.

 

[BouncerGuy]

India losing yet another game at the hands of Bavuma 11,.... Bavuma has been a nightmare for India since that Bauna comment... bumrah is nowhere to be seen after that...

 

[Nikhil_cric]

India should stop producing these phattas, it gets boring after a bit.

make a pitch where a 270 chase is tough.

No, these pitches are better. With dew coming in, the 2nd innings will be pattas anyway, considering that it's mainly black soil

But these pitches give team batting first a chance as well

Also, Ranchi and Raipur are relatively smaller venues.

 

[globetrotter]

But one clown here blaming defeat on Ruturaj

Who?

 

[harshjoshi87]

Who?

Fan of shubman & riyan parag

 

[Mas-LFC]

Well done South Africa. Great chase. Hope SA wins the next cwc27 will be rooting for you for sure.

 

[Mas-LFC]

India lost cause of the poor finishing by Jadeja who played a test innings down the order. Needed to finish better. Should’ve got 375-380 to kill the game.

 

[RamLakhan]

Good to see South Africa going back to their glorious days! Was worried a few years back if they are heading towards WI/Pak/Sri Level... Not only should they get strong, they should also come out of that choke tag! Good for World Cricket, we have already lost few strong teams... NZ is also doing well... NZ & South Africa dominating in India is a positive sign for world cricket...

 

[Usman Chadda]

Good to see South Africa going back to their glorious days! Was worried a few years back if they are heading towards WI/Pak/Sri Level... Not only should they get strong, they should also come out of that choke tag! Good for World Cricket, we have already lost few strong teams... NZ is also doing well... NZ & South Africa dominating in India is a positive sign for world cricket...

Speaks volumes of India's dwindling quality in Test cricket, if South Africa gets beaten by a weak Pakistan team but proceeds to thrash the supposed super-power in world cricket.

Sri Lanka is a level above India at the moment in this format, as you cannot see them getting white-washed at home by any SENA country in the near future.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Speaks volumes of India's dwindling quality in Test cricket, if South Africa gets beaten by a weak Pakistan team but proceeds to thrash the supposed super-power in world cricket.

Sri Lanka is a level above India at the moment in this format, as you cannot see them getting white-washed at home by any SENA country in the near future.

Nevermind, Sri Lanka also got white-washed at home by Australia recently so I guess all subcontinent teams are complete trash at the moment.

 

[Rajdeep]

Nevermind, Sri Lanka also got white-washed at home by Australia recently so I guess all subcontinent teams are complete trash at the moment.

India won last 2 out of 3 ICC white ball events. They are trash? LOL.

This game was being played under rain like dew conditions. So I will not read much. India is easily (stress on EASILY bit)...the best white ball team on planet green earth and perhaps in all milky way.

 

[Usman Chadda]

India won last 2 out of 3 ICC white ball events. They are trash? LOL.

This game was being played under rain like dew conditions. So I will not read much. India is easily (stress on EASILY bit)...the best white ball team on planet green earth and perhaps in all milky way.

Test cricket.

India is really good at white ball cricket, but not the best. You remember your arrogant outbursts before the NZ tour before they bashed your head in infront of your own crowd, right?

 

[Rajdeep]

Test cricket.

India is really good at white ball cricket, but not the best. You remember your arrogant outbursts before the NZ tour before they bashed your head in infront of your own crowd, right?

Yes agree...in test cricket we are no longer invincibles like we were couple of years ago.