Unfair advantages and needless drama: Is the Hybrid Model killing cricket’s spirit?

[Bhaijaan]

Things we didn’t know about Hybrid model before 2025 Champions Trophy :-

• The host nation doesn’t feel like the host anymore especially given the prospect of losing 2/3 knock outs at the end of the tournament
• Host nation fans experience isn’t the same anymore in Hybrid model and without fan support no tournament can be successful
• Logistics issues are terrible. You had RSA, NZ both travelling to Dubai from Pakistan just to wait whether Bharat wins or not and then one of them have to go back making their Dubai tour /hotel check in check out a wastage of time and energy
• Accusations of unfair advantage. This time it was Bharat, next time Pakistan will have to make a base somewhere and English crybaby analysts will whine about them having an unfair advantage probably next time.
• Needless controversies take the focus away from cricket
• It’s just not fun

 

[Bhaijaan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897012974273089900

 

[uppercut]

Things we didn’t know about Hybrid model before 2025 Champions Trophy :-

• The host nation doesn’t feel like the host anymore especially given the prospect of losing 2/3 knock outs at the end of the tournament
• Host nation fans experience isn’t the same anymore in Hybrid model and without fan support no tournament can be successful
• Logistics issues are terrible. You had RSA, NZ both travelling to Dubai from Pakistan just to wait whether Bharat wins or not and then one of them have to go back making their Dubai tour /hotel check in check out a wastage of time and energy
• Accusations of unfair advantage. This time it was Bharat, next time Pakistan will have to make a base somewhere and English crybaby analysts will whine about them having an unfair advantage probably next time.
• Needless controversies take the focus away from cricket
• It’s just not fun

Naaahhh mucho fun to be had at the expense of Padosees .... this is BCCI's way of thanking Indian cricket fans by providing non-stop free entertainment.

 

[mominsaigol]

Things we didn’t know about Hybrid model before 2025 Champions Trophy :-

• The host nation doesn’t feel like the host anymore especially given the prospect of losing 2/3 knock outs at the end of the tournament
• Host nation fans experience isn’t the same anymore in Hybrid model and without fan support no tournament can be successful
• Logistics issues are terrible. You had RSA, NZ both travelling to Dubai from Pakistan just to wait whether Bharat wins or not and then one of them have to go back making their Dubai tour /hotel check in check out a wastage of time and energy
• Accusations of unfair advantage. This time it was Bharat, next time Pakistan will have to make a base somewhere and English crybaby analysts will whine about them having an unfair advantage probably next time.
• Needless controversies take the focus away from cricket
• It’s just not fun

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Naaahhh mucho fun to be had at the expense of Padosees .... this is BCCI's way of thanking Indian cricket fans by providing non-stop free entertainment.

But next time it could be us.

It’s just that hybrid happened in Pakistan first but we are the next victim of it.

 

[Sachin fan]

But next time it could be us.

It’s just that hybrid happened in Pakistan first but we are the next victim of it.

Spoiler, it won't be us.

 

[uppercut]

But next time it could be us.

It’s just that hybrid happened in Pakistan first but we are the next victim of it.

It cant be because there is no way Pak or SL will get to the final lol ( even if we dont get to the final )

 

[Bhaijaan]

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

The entire tournament needed to happen in Pakistan. You were unlucky with rains. The stadiums are ok, it’s not like Sri Lanka, Bangladesh who hosted plenty of tournaments in the past have any much better stadiums.

PCB’s initial stand was good when they said either we host it all or we quit. They should have stuck to that stance no matter what even if that meant the ICC awarded the tournament to another nation. I don’t think other cricketing nations would have stayed silent in that case. Everyone would have supported Pakistan in ICC meeting.

 

[Bhaijaan]

It cant be because there is no way Pak or SL will get to the final lol ( even if we dont get to the final )

Next time we just a tournament, we are going to give away all the Pakistan games to Sri Lanka? Go to Sri Lanka to play Pakistan and deprive our fans that game? Then let 2/3 knock outs happen outside Bharat if Pakistan made it to the final?

 

[Devadwal]

No option left for PCB and ICC once Indian government denied the permission for team india to visit Pakistan.

And GOI is right because 3-4 day's ago two big blast happened in pakistan on a same day and yesterday big terrorist attack at the bannu cantt in pakistan.

So going forward ICC needs to be proactive and whenever they give hosting rights of any ICC events To BCCI/ PCB then give with co-host country like UAE , Bangladesh and Lanka.

That will be solved the problem

 

[uppercut]

Next time we just a tournament, we are going to give away all the Pakistan games to Sri Lanka? Go to Sri Lanka to play Pakistan and deprive our fans that game?

Its not a big deal anymore .... the big games are now only between India and SENA

Then let 2/3 knock outs happen outside Bharat if Pakistan made it to the final?

Only if Pak and SL qualify otherwise most likely only one .... we will have to wait and see what Ace's BCCI has up their sleeve to bend rules but highly unlikely that the BCCI will let the same farce happen to their events. They are faaar more shrewd than the PCB bozos.

 

[BouncerGuy]

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS.

STAY ON TOPIC AND TALK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL HERE

 

[mominsaigol]

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS.

STAY ON TOPIC AND TALK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL HERE

Bhai, the whole hybrid model scenario was politics. Read the OP, it's specifically referring to CT hybrid model.

Now question why this hybrid model came to be?

 

[AZulfi]

The hybrid model is fine (given the political climate there is no other realistic alternative) except that there should have been a gap of at least 5 days between the last group game and the first semi-final. That way RSA or NZ players would not have had to rush to Dubai..

It is not the hybrid model, but the games' scheduling needs improvement.

 

[gazza619]

Well Naqvi should get a noble peace prize for agreeing to the model.

Go Naqvi Go.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Bhai, the whole hybrid model scenario was politics. Read the OP, it's specifically referring to CT hybrid model.

Now question why this hybrid model came to be?

Talking about indian immigration, russia is not hybrid model Bruh... I hope you understand.

 

[mominsaigol]

Talking about indian immigration, russia is not hybrid model Bruh... I hope you understand.

When did I talk about those?

I said if the reason why India can't go against australia or england is because eng and aus can damage India such as having usa gang bang them, withdrawing business, deporting indians etc etc.

Similarly aus can go against India, cause they lose a 1B dollar market to trade. Russia is important because their the only nation thay don't care but Pakistan ain't Russia.

Pakistan on the other hand has no bargaining power over India. They have nothing to offer to the west, nothing to have a bargaining power over India.

As a result if Australia offers to host ct or India offers, both countries will happily go without any complaints and papa head will be paid millions by Bcci and Mukesh ambani in IPL.

However Pakistan can get bullied. Of India doesn't wanna travel, then they won't because Pakistan has no allies nor do they have bargaining power.

WHICH IS WHY THE HYBRID MODEL EXISTS AND WHY PAKISTAN SHOULD HAVE GONE THE AFGHANISTAN ROUTE AND FORMED FRIENDLY RELATIONS WITH INDIA RATHER THEN TRYING TO NUKE EM IN 2008.

^^ This is a very valid topic or discussion because it explains why the hybrid model was adapted, what pk could have done to avoid it and avoid ruining the CT as a whole.

Samjha karo, Baba Saigol is the God of Topics and the God of intelligence.

 

[BDfanforever]

I have a feeling we might see hybrid model if BD gets a hosting rights of a tournament in the future too.

 

[cricketjoshila]

When did I talk about those?

I said if the reason why India can't go against australia or england is because eng and aus can damage India such as having usa gang bang them, withdrawing business, deporting indians etc etc.

Similarly aus can go against India, cause they lose a 1B dollar market to trade. Russia is important because their the only nation thay don't care but Pakistan ain't Russia.

Pakistan on the other hand has no bargaining power over India. They have nothing to offer to the west, nothing to have a bargaining power over India.

As a result if Australia offers to host ct or India offers, both countries will happily go without any complaints and papa head will be paid millions by Bcci and Mukesh ambani in IPL.

However Pakistan can get bullied. Of India doesn't wanna travel, then they won't because Pakistan has no allies nor do they have bargaining power.

WHICH IS WHY THE HYBRID MODEL EXISTS AND WHY PAKISTAN SHOULD HAVE GONE THE AFGHANISTAN ROUTE AND FORMED FRIENDLY RELATIONS WITH INDIA RATHER THEN TRYING TO NUKE EM IN 2008.

^^ This is a very valid topic or discussion because it explains why the hybrid model was adapted, what pk could have done to avoid it and avoid ruining the CT as a whole.

Samjha karo, Baba Saigol is the God of Topics and the God of intelligence.

You think Australia and England won't have economic impact if they try economic sanctions against India?

And why? For Cricket matches?

When you are the 5th largest economy and growing at the fastest among major economies anyone doing any economic sanctions will also have costs to pay.

Australia has signed a free trade agreement with India, UK is negotiating one. EU wants one as well.

US knows that India is the only major economic and military power that's still neutral. Any sanctions pushes India into the China Russia orbit. Therefore even Biden and democrats were not hostile to Modi government.

No one is going to jeopardize relationship with India because of pakistanis and their imagination.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I have a feeling we might see hybrid model if BD gets a hosting rights of a tournament in the future too.

BD hosting a tournament alone isn't happening now.

They will be co hosts.

 

[cricketjoshila]

@mominsaigol

The day pakistan becomes a truly democratic country and army loses power. Relationship with India will start improving.

 

[sweep_shot]

Hybrid model is a stupid farce. It is only happening because of India. No other country gets this privilege.

When New Zealand didn't want to play in Kenya in 2003 WC, they didn't get any neutral venue. Same with England when they declined to play in Zimbabwe.

 

[mominsaigol]

You think Australia and England won't have economic impact if they try economic sanctions against India?

And why? For Cricket matches?

When you are the 5th largest economy and growing at the fastest among major economies anyone doing any economic sanctions will also have costs to pay.

Australia has signed a free trade agreement with India, UK is negotiating one. EU wants one as well.

US knows that India is the only major economic and military power that's still neutral. Any sanctions pushes India into the China Russia orbit. Therefore even Biden and democrats were not hostile to Modi government.

No one is going to jeopardize relationship with India because of pakistanis and their imagination.

They'll have an economic impact via losing a 1B market but please stop living in lala land.

Australia won't get affected in the slightest if they lose India as their main concern is usa.

Indian immigrants flee their country to move to aus, not the other way around.

They won't jeopardise their relations but India can't either. A war with aus, means an automatic war with its allies and usa would crush india. Their not as powerful as you think.

Secondly they won't even be able to invade aus or target them. Aus is too remote to even be affected in the first place.

Lastly you didn't even read what I said properly. Plug your Indian cord out of your brain for one second and think logically that'll happen if India tries to bully Australia in the same manner that they try to bully Pakistan.

Pakistan can't do anything. The west would invade and take all of india's stuff.

Go start a war with Australia i dare you, 780,000 Indians are ready to be deported

 

[Hitman]

Hybrid model is a stupid farce. It is only happening because of India. No other country gets this privilege.

When New Zealand didn't want to play in Kenya in 2003 WC, they didn't get any neutral venue. Same with England when they declined to play in Zimbabwe.

Who gave India that privilege, ICC or PCB or BCB? They could have host the CT without India. Yet, they didn't. Simple, isn't it?

 

[mominsaigol]

@mominsaigol

The day pakistan becomes a truly democratic country and army loses power. Relationship with India will start improving.

Not referring to pakistan. Try attacking Australia. You're setting yourself up to become a pariah state and get murked by every country in the west.

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC GUYS

 

[cricketjoshila]

Not referring to pakistan. Try attacking Australia. You're setting yourself up to become a pariah state and get murked by every country in the west.

Why will India attack Australia? Australian government has been extremely friendly in last decade and half.

Pakistanis and their imagination.

 

[mominsaigol]

Why will India attack Australia? Australian government has been extremely friendly in last decade and half.

Pakistanis and their imagination.

Let's take this to timepass.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They'll have an economic impact via losing a 1B market but please stop living in lala land.

Australia won't get affected in the slightest if they lose India as their main concern is usa.

Indian immigrants flee their country to move to aus, not the other way around.

They won't jeopardise their relations but India can't either. A war with aus, means an automatic war with its allies and usa would crush india. Their not as powerful as you think.

Secondly they won't even be able to invade aus or target them. Aus is too remote to even be affected in the first place.

Lastly you didn't even read what I said properly. Plug your Indian cord out of your brain for one second and think logically that'll happen if India tries to bully Australia in the same manner that they try to bully Pakistan.

Pakistan can't do anything. The west would invade and take all of india's stuff.

Go start a war with Australia i dare you, 780,000 Indians are ready to be deported

Do you know the trade value between India and Australia?

Australia knows the value of a 4tn market and hence signed a FTA.

Indian community in Australia is extremely successful. You want to look up the figures

But why will India and Australia spoil their relationship? For the imagination of a Pakistani?

India and the West will only strengthen their relationship especially in trade and defence.

Pakistanis like you can keep imagining the rest scenarios.

 

[mominsaigol]

Do you know the trade value between India and Australia?

Australia knows the value of a 4tn market and hence signed a FTA.

Indian community in Australia is extremely successful. You want to look up the figures

But why will India and Australia spoil their relationship? For the imagination of a Pakistani?

India and the West will only strengthen their relationship especially in trade and defence.

Pakistanis like you can keep imagining the rest scenarios.

Time pass. I'm showing the leak reality of whatll happen of India steps out of line

 

[psyoptica]

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

Everything you said about Pakistan is correct but it all applies to India also. In what world is India a 1st world country? You have to live in India to see it's not much better than Pakistan

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Everything you said about Pakistan is correct but it all applies to India also. In what world is India a 1st world country? You have to live in India to see it's not much better than Pakistan

You are right. It's weird how propaganda from 1 billion posters can penetrate the minds of posters and lead them to make such poor posts.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

 

[Energy]

The hybrid model was a good option. We had a couple of very good games (Eng/Aus and Afg/Eng).

It's the ultimate qudrat ka nizaam. 3 games washed off. Pakistan knocked out in the first 4 days. Rest is history. Dubai has now firmly taken over as the hosts.

 

[mominsaigol]

You are right. It's weird how propaganda from 1 billion posters can penetrate the minds of posters and lead them to make such poor posts.

That's your opinion. But I do know India has become a very popular tourist resort and travel destination in recent times.

Anyway this thread will diverge and go offtopic so I'll end the conversation here.

My main issue with some Indian posters is overglorification of their own players and minor disrespect to others who are equal ins status. But it has nothing to do with the countries overall power and how far they've come as a nation.

^^ If this wasn't true, then neutral nations like usa wouldn't praise India.

 

[mominsaigol]

Anyway back to topic, The hybrid model is a bad idea but it was expected if Pakistan was going to host the trophy.

It would have been better to hold the whole thing in UAE. Pakistan can't overpower India when it comes to bargaining power

 

[mominsaigol]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Did vomiting and choking actually happen in wc 2023? I thought it was some bi lateral series and not 2023 wc itself?

 

[Hellion]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

Nobody was choking and puking in the World Cup in India

 

[psyoptica]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

Ditto. It's all political garbage and has no relevance to Pakistan's ability to host tournaments. It's impossible to seperate politics from cricket or any sporting event that involves India and Pakistan.
The emotional audience on both sides, more so on the Indian side treat it as some kind of a war taking places and cricket becomes a secondary thing. We all knew what would happen once Pakistan got their chance to host an ICC event. The facilities were never going to be world class and the issues were exacerbated due to the pathetic management we have. Every little issue was going to be amplified and cry to move the event out of Pakistan. The hybdrid model was the second best win for India.
BCCI for all it's issues has the political clout to mask it's failures and shortcomings. Pakistan will more often than not will get the short end of the stick.

 

[BouncerGuy]

TALK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL IN THIS THREAD

 

[Mesozoic]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

Some megamind level cope this.

Bottom line is that your team was not good enough to knock India out on the field and instead got themselves knocked out first by Afghanistan in 2023, USA in 2024 and out of your own tournament with zero wins in 2025. All the while getting humiliated against India..

 

[BouncerGuy]

TALK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL IN THIS THREAD

YOU GUYS DON'T LISTEN.

THREAD IS NOT ABOUT ANY IMMIGRATION... TALK ABOUT HYBRID MODEL OR LEAVE THE THREAD

 

[Mas-LFC]

I don’t like hybrid model where one nation refuses to go play in a particular nation. But two or three countries co-hosting is fine, happens in football and happened in cricket before.

 

[Local.Dada]

The offer was made to move the enitre tournament to Dubai. However it was Pakistan that proposed the hybrid model or some other name they called it. Why is BCCI being blamed?

 

[wrongun]

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

You lost me at India being a 1st world country.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

300+ totals in Champions Trophy 2025:

In Pakistan - 7 in 10 matches

In UAE 0 in 4 matches

CHAMPIONS TROPHY 2025 PAKISTAN

 

[TheNeutralist]

Pakistan should have gone against the hybrid model if it had issues, either UAE or SL would have hosted it.

 

[uppercut]

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

So shouldn't the priority of Pakistan as a nation be to mend their rogue ways and act like a responsible nation ?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

So shouldn't the priority of Pakistan as a nation be to mend their rogue ways and act like a responsible nation ?

I think moving the match to Dubai has settled the score now.

 

[uppercut]

I think moving the match to Dubai has settled the score now.

Absolutely not. Because the Mumbai attacks are similar to 9/11 and Indian Gov using BCCI is comparable to the US gov taking steps to not enable/encourage those regimes that are openly anti-american.

Mumbai will not be forgotten for a long long time.

 

[Hellion]

This shouldn't even be that big an issue. It's being played in Dubai. Anywhere the ummah exists in majority should be a home venue for Pakistanis.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Ravichandran Ashwin speaking on his YouTube channel:

"I can only laugh at the questions directed at our captain, coaches in the press conference about 'home advantage'. In 2009 Champions Trophy, South Africa played all their matches at the same venue and they did not qualify for the final. It is not South Africa's fault that they did not qualify. Let's accept that India have played class cricket and have reached the final due to top performances. Last time India played in Dubai was during COVID. After that New Zealand, England, South Africa played in Dubai."

"This narrative, there is one team which comes to India and lose 4-0 and then blame the pitch. To throw mud on our players, please don't go for that narrative. Even Indian people buying into that narrative is something I have an issue with. I still have I am having nerves. I am not having the greatest of feelings. After New Zealand's win against South Africa, I am feeling, 'Once again can they hurt us.'"

"I think there is no doubt that coming here or playing Lahore and we had a full day of travel yesterday, then it just takes it out of you a little bit, but we have got a couple of days now of a little bit of recovery and a little bit of planning and training towards the game, but I guess we are deep into the tournament now and sometimes it is not always a lot of training that you need. It is just getting your body and your mind right to compete in the final, and that will be our key focus over the next two days."

 

[kron]

The last 3 ICC tournament have been on a similar level.

USA tournament was washed out, had poor pitches, was rigged to ensure India had a certain semi final.

The India tournament had players choking and vomiting due to hazardous air, scheduling issues, and poor stadiums at times. It was rigged in favour of India but Aussies spoiled the party and Modi ran off stage.

Yet Pakistan is being is being subjected to such criticism as if the tournament has been out of step with other ICC events.

The answer is political. Indians pretend not to take about this tournament but it's because of their demand for an Indo Pak match the Dubai match HAD to happen.

This tournament has not been about cricket but about propaganda and revenge for Mumbai attack. By playing the tournament in Dubai many Indians have got their revenge. It's difficult to push back against this passion and jazba.

Sure sure pitches were rigged for India if India wins
And players had agreed prior to the tournament commencing that they will purposely under perform to allow India to win
Bookies want India to win so there were talks held with other team captains about potentially fixing a game so they can get a lucrative ipl contract in return
Players of India also have been been involved in bribing umpires to get favourable decisions
Most importantly drs is also tampered so that any half chances always favour India

 

[kron]

Venom seems to be non toxic. Not deadly

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Sure sure pitches were rigged for India if India wins
And players had agreed prior to the tournament commencing that they will purposely under perform to allow India to win
Bookies want India to win so there were talks held with other team captains about potentially fixing a game so they can get a lucrative ipl contract in return
Players of India also have been been involved in bribing umpires to get favourable decisions
Most importantly drs is also tampered so that any half chances always favour India

As long as there are illiterate dummies like you willing to lap it up then I guess international cricket has some mileage still.

 

[Sachin fan]

As long as there are illiterate dummies like you willing to lap it up then I guess international cricket has some mileage still.

The phrase - naach na jaane angan tedha - was invented for the likes of you.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Manjrekar: India had a 'clear advantage' in knowing their semi-final venue in advance

Nick Knight also felt that "it didn't seem right or fair" that India knew where they were playing

www.espncricinfo.com

Two tournaments back to back where former players ( not just Pakistanis) acknowledge Indians clear advantage.

The phrase - naach na jaane angan tedha - was invented for the likes of you.

In your eyes it seems like it has been invented for most non-Indians as for two tournaments ex-players, current players and journalists have blamed the ICC for rigging in Indians favour.

Here is an example - hopefully you are not illiterate like @kron but if you need help to understand just ping me.

 

[kron]

Manjrekar: India had a 'clear advantage' in knowing their semi-final venue in advance

Nick Knight also felt that "it didn't seem right or fair" that India knew where they were playing

www.espncricinfo.com

Two tournaments back to back where former players ( not just Pakistanis) acknowledge Indians clear advantage.

In your eyes it seems like it has been invented for most non-Indians as for two tournaments ex-players, current players and journalists have blamed the ICC for rigging in Indians favour.

Here is an example - hopefully you are not illiterate like @kron but if you need help to understand just ping me.

Really rich coming from a gronk like yourself. We know you guys are sycophants by nature. So it’s understandable to believe in conspiracy theories designed by your masters.

Only rigging I have come across is when England rigged boundaries to cheat and win their only odi World Cup in 2019. Do you understand what the word rigging means? Non toxic venom?

India travelled the most out of all teams in 2023 WC. Did India complain, Mr dolt?

Do India play t20 franchise cricket outside ipl, Mr muppet?
I think if you notice the answer would be no

So Infact it’s a disadvantage. Out of all teams Indian players are the only ones who don’t play franchise cricket outside India and are not familiar with foreign conditions. All these other international players which includes sena players and your useless players play in franchise cricket abroad.

So please stop with the cribbing. Or continue. No one cares. We know you are a vegetable with a vacuous space between your ears , so it’s difficult for you to understand the situation.

 

[kron]

And btw we don’t claim Sanju as an Indian? To me he is Pakistani. No one respects that non charlatan in India. He likes grovel at the feet of you know like your ilk do

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Really rich coming from a gronk like yourself. We know you guys are sycophants by nature. So it’s understandable to believe in conspiracy theories designed by your masters.

Only rigging I have come across is when England rigged boundaries to cheat and win their only odi World Cup in 2019. Do you understand what the word rigging means? Non toxic venom?

India travelled the most out of all teams in 2023 WC. Did India complain, Mr dolt?

Do India play t20 franchise cricket outside ipl, Mr muppet?
I think if you notice the answer would be no

So Infact it’s a disadvantage. Out of all teams Indian players are the only ones who don’t play franchise cricket outside India and are not familiar with foreign conditions. All these other international players which includes sena players and your useless players play in franchise cricket abroad.

So please stop with the cribbing. Or continue. No one cares. We know you are a vegetable with a vacuous space between your ears , so it’s difficult for you to understand the situation.

Lots of words. All nonsense. Please try again.

You can try these types of things and your attempts at name calling in your Indian Whatsapp groups but they don't hold much weight anywhere else.

 

[kron]

Lots of words. All nonsense. Please try again.

You can try these types of things and your attempts at name calling in your Indian Whatsapp groups but they don't hold much weight anywhere else.

Ok mate. Whatever you say. You ar reading too much into this matter about the whole tournament being rigged in favour of india

South Africa held a icc tournament and played all games in the same venue
No one cried because they never made knock out stages.

This random outburst from non indian fans all over the world post the commencement of the tournament makes no sense now. Should have performed these theatrics before the games officially started no?
That’s where I am seeing the issue.

 

[Bhaijaan]

A dark day in cricket.

ROW fans please gather here for group crying

 

[BDfanforever]

Hybrid model is dumb where one team just plays in one venue throughout the competition. Both PAK and IND should always have a co-host, at least just to hold each of their respective games.

 

[light]

Yes it is. If one team travels zero KM while all other keeps on travelling, it's dumb. After couple of matches in the same venue, you've pretty much gained a 'home' advantage.

 

[Mockingbird]

Yes it is. If one team travels zero KM while all other keeps on travelling, it's dumb. After couple of matches in the same venue, you've pretty much gained a 'home' advantage.

Dude, there was a 3 day gap between the last semifinal & the final and Dubai is only like 2 hrs away from Lahore - these guys cover way more distance in an IPL week. That travel excuse doesn’t ring true for the final.

 

[AZulfi]

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

Disagree. Past players developed their bowling and batting skills playing on the same grounds + by playing county cricket. That said we need to prepare better pitches at home which favour both pace (days 1-2) and spin (days 4-5) rather than roads or pathetic rank turners. Batting has always been inconsistent and unpredictable but current pacers and spinners just lack the necessary skills in tests and ODIs because they don't play enough first-class games. T20 (easy paisa! Everyone wants to become rich overnight! Sport is a reflection of society.) mindset has destroyed our cricket. Players are not prepared to put in the hard yards. Imran, Sarfraz, and the two Ws won us many test matches on home pitches because they had greater skills; and knew how to swing and reverse swing the old ball.

As regards the rain and matches being washed out only some Pakistanis are making a big fuss about it. Indeed drainage system could be better at the grounds but I still don't think play could have been possible given the amount of rain that happened. Ex-players such as Michael Clarke certainly had no issues with it. He said 'If it rains it rains, There is not much you can do about it as a player. You just have to accept it'

 

[shah9425]

India won Dubai cup

What a farce

 

[The_Real_Deal]

Icc should have realised that Pakistan isn't suitable.

I feel for Pakistani fans and to my loyal Pakistani brothers as well as Indian posters who i deeply respect,

If you ignore India and Pakistan sharing hostile borders with one another, their plenty of reasons to not host in Pakistan.

For starters, Pcb promised rebuilt and newly furnished stadiums, but that never came to fruition. The grounds are so bad that just a little rain causes a washout due to an incompetent staff and non existent drainage system.

Secondly, if India was never going to come, why not move the whole thing to UAE? Why did PK as a country and fans have such an ego?

The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country that has more money and power. Your best bet was to host in UAE given the quality of grounds and india's refusal to travel.

While I don't endorse Indian bullying, as this is clearly the case of India bullying a nation and hiding behind the whole terrorism excuse it is what it is.

Pakistan has not helped it's case with rain brutally exposing the reality of the stadiums in PK atm.

I said this a long long time ago. Pakistan was at its best when psl was played in UAE due to the quality of the grounds and balanced pitches. Players improved back then bit have deteriorated thanks to psl being played in Pakistan.

The grounds are so bad that no quality bowler or quality test cricketer can realistically develop. They could only develop in UAE.

Improve your economy, improve you nation, get a competent government and avoid kicking your own people out for them to become immigrants and only then you can hold power over India.

Maybe try becoming besties with China so that they can bully India for you. Until then, Chup kar kei baat sun lo. You're a pathetic cricketing nation with pathetic cricket grounds with a pathetic government. It really hurts me but I'm glad I settled in Australia. Toba toba.

“The reality is, that you guys are a 3rd world country while India is a 1st world country”

Don’t make me laugh! India a 1st world country? Says who??

 

[light]

Dude, there was a 3 day gap between the last semifinal & the final and Dubai is only like 2 hrs away from Lahore - these guys cover way more distance in an IPL week. That travel excuse doesn’t ring true for the final.

As much as I am happy that India won - truth is the truth. However this is also iCC' and PCB's fault too. PCB was all beating their drums with several threats, why didn't they come through with it? Chickened out as usual! And iCC knew very well that India won't travel and should not have given the rights to CT to Pak if they truely cared more about cricket moving forward then money.

 

[deltexas]

India won Dubai cup

What a farce

Pakistan won the Drama cup.
What an achievement..

 

[Shehmir]

Things we didn’t know about Hybrid model before 2025 Champions Trophy :-

• The host nation doesn’t feel like the host anymore especially given the prospect of losing 2/3 knock outs at the end of the tournament
• Host nation fans experience isn’t the same anymore in Hybrid model and without fan support no tournament can be successful
• Logistics issues are terrible. You had RSA, NZ both travelling to Dubai from Pakistan just to wait whether Bharat wins or not and then one of them have to go back making their Dubai tour /hotel check in check out a wastage of time and energy
• Accusations of unfair advantage. This time it was Bharat, next time Pakistan will have to make a base somewhere and English crybaby analysts will whine about them having an unfair advantage probably next time.
• Needless controversies take the focus away from cricket
• It’s just not fun

Definitely big blunder made by ICC which resulted SA unneccessary travel to Dubai

 

[BouncerGuy]

Hybrid model has some disadvantages and needless travelling for rival teams is one of them. But if your are dominant enough, you can win anywhere, anytime, anyday.