[VID] "Don't call them Bengalis call them Bangladesh or you also risk being banned" : Sarfaraz Ahmed

[RickyG]

Huh? Sounds like a mountain is being made out of a molehill here.

All he said was don’t call them Bengali call them Bangladeshi or else she could land in hot water.

I don’t think he implied that what happened to him was unjust. I think people are choosing to interpret it that way.

 

[Saj]

Not the brightest comment, especially given what happened against South Africa.

Perhaps he was trying to be funny, but not the time or place really.

 

[cricketInsight]

Time to find a new captain for multiple reasons.

Have we had a captain continue after the world cup? Don't think it has happened in the last 20 years.

 

[DeadBall]

What he said about Bengalis being used as a derogatory term in Pakistan is correct but he was sarcastically using it to justify his own racist gaffes so yeah, he isn't some human rights revolutionary.

 

[DeadBall]

He didn’t mean it in a racist way but his background does not enable him to understand the differences in cultures.

I think the guy is just mentally shot; tired and ready to go home.

Good luck to him but please, do us all favor and give up the reigns.

He's already home.

 

[Abdullah719]

For those who are saying Bengali is a negative word in Pakistan, open up the English-Urdu Dictionary and define what Bengali means. If it's offensive, then it should be written, like how P*KI is defined as offensive in English dictionaries.

Some of you people live in your own fantasy world and think whatever your opinions are must be solid truth. The egos on this forum are hilarious.

http://udb.gov.pk/

Knowledge of ground realities is not always found in dictionaries.

Anyway, that's besides the point, because of the context in which Sarfaraz said it. It seems like he might still not realise why his comments in South Africa were out of line and derogatory, even if he didn't mean them in that way.

 

[ManFan]

He's already home.

“Where the deer and the antelope play”.

Yes but he should remain there.

 

[DeadBall]

Knowledge of ground realities is not always found in dictionaries.

He should start by looking up the definition of irony in that dictionary first.

 

[shafkath]

Love sarfraz. PC is a thing in the west that is annoying on the whole, don't need it in Pakistan. Nothing wrong in what he said.

 

[gazza619]

Not sure why people are upset at Sataraz’s comment.

I grew up in Karachi and I very well know that at times Bengali term is used in an offensive way. Lets put it this way, our society is damn racist, and I am saying it as it is.

 

[Hasan123]

It's not offensive to call a Bangladesh person Bengali but why does he need to add you may get in trouble for it? To me it shows he has no remorse of what happened in South Africa. PP can defend that action as much as they want , it offended a lot of people in South Africa. If it offended them , you are no one to tell them how to feel.

He has no remorse for the embarrassment he is bringing to Pakistan cricket.

 

[moghul]

Not sure why people are upset at Sataraz’s comment.

I grew up in Karachi and I very well know that at times Bengali term is used in an offensive way. Lets put it this way, our society is damn racist, and I am saying it as it is.

But Sarfraz was not responsible what another person said, who was he to lecture someone.

 

[Syed1]

Not really bro.

Never knew it was before reading through this thread.

You do realize that there is more to Pakistan than the 10 km radius around you.


Having grown up in Karachi, same city where Sarfaraz hails from, Bengali is often used as a racial slur for a dark skinned person. That is why Sarfaraz corrected the reporter, otherwise why would he have corrected her?


He should not have added the bit at the end though about being banned.

 

[Pakhs]

I think Sarfraz is right I have friend here in the UK who does not like being called Bangalis as there are banglis in India too and they dont like them. They definitely like to be called Bangladeshi instead so its a fair comment.

 

[latecut]

It is a correct comment by Sarfaraz. Bengalis means Bengalis from India.

 

[Karachi]

Bengali is not a derogatory term.

And Sarfaraz apology for his racist remark was not sincere it seems

Bengali is derogatory term in Pakistan, at least in Karachi... When you want to teas someone, you call them Bengali.

Sarfarz did the right thing by correcting the lady. They should be called Bangladeshi team, not Bengali team.

 

[Pakistanian]

He's right. Bengalis can also be Indians.
Bangladeshis can be non-bengalis as well. Ethnicity and nationality are two different things. We'd be just as annoyed if people used "Punjabis" to exclusively refer to Sikhs.

 

[Itachi]

He's right. Bengalis can also be Indians.
Bangladeshis can be non-bengalis as well. Ethnicity and nationality are two different things. We'd be just as annoyed if people used "Punjabis" to exclusively refer to Sikhs.

Context matters. Why do you think, when someone quotes Quran and gives out some negativity, that person is asked to give attention to the context?

If someone is asking about playing against bengalis in a world cup cricket, obviously by the context, they are talking about Bangladesh and not Indian Bengali.

 

[RainMan_]

Sarfraz was right to tell that the reporter shouldn't term us as Bangalese. Yes we should be called as Bangladeshi. Bangalese are those who those whose mother tongue is the language Bangla. A good number of people ,a few crores speak Bangla. But they are not Bangladeshi. Pakistan were playing against a country named Bangladesh. It's a fool act really to use that term

All the players of Bangladesh team r Bengalis. That's why they r refered as such. There's absolutely nothing wrong in it.

If some backward illiterate fool use this term as something derogatory than it's their problem. But that doesn't necessarily mean mean people should stop calling Bangladeshis as Bengalis.

 

[surg]

Bangladeshi members on the thread can clear the air.
What do they prefer and this is a useless controversy really.

 

[RainMan_]

Bengali is derogatory term in Pakistan, at least in Karachi... When you want to teas someone, you call them Bengali.

Sarfarz did the right thing by correcting the lady. They should be called Bangladeshi team, not Bengali team.

It just shows the poor upbringing of Sarfaraz and also the backward nature of the people of Karachi (if they truly consider the term bengali as a derogatory remark)

Pakistan itself has a sizable population who r of bengali origins. Does that mean they r always harassed for their ethnicity?

Even if some backward illiterate fools use bengali word in a negative way doesn't necessarily mean the captain of the national team should show the similar attitude and advocate that in a press conference.

Secondly he was taking a dig at the ban he got for making derogatory remark against that African player. This clearly shows that he hasn't learnt his lesson and he wasn't sincere in his apology.

He's a disgraceful human being without any self respect. It's a shame that he's the captain of a national team.

 

[Indiafan]

Love sarfraz. PC is a thing in the west that is annoying on the whole, don't need it in Pakistan. Nothing wrong in what he said.

I bet you will be the first person whining if your religion is insulted or someone says something about prophets. That won't be PC. people are such hypocrites and not being able to understand that just like you get affected when the something personal to you, others get affected is a sign of sociopathy. Also, every single person I have seen who says world is too PC is a massive bigot in my experience, lacking humanity and wanting to bully others

 

[Pakistanian]

All the players of Bangladesh team r Bengalis. That's why they r refered as such. There's absolutely nothing wrong in it.

If some backward illiterate fool use this term as something derogatory than it's their problem. But that doesn't necessarily mean mean people should stop calling Bangladeshis as Bengalis.

I believe there are some non bengalis in the Bangladeshi team [MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION] [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] may know better.

 

[sshakir411]

Fun fact: I’ve had Bangladeshis say Bengali and Bangladeshi are not the same. Don’t see an issue here.

 

[sshakir411]

He didn’t mean it in a racist way but his background does not enable him to understand the differences in cultures.

I think the guy is just mentally shot; tired and ready to go home.

Good luck to him but please, do us all favor and give up the reigns.

Would be surprised if you can tell the difference in being Bengali and being Bangladeshi? Let’s see how mentally stable or shot you are.

 

[surprise-package]

It was a racist comment by the journalist. I have alot of Bangladeshi friends and they take extreme offense to being referred to as "Bengalis". I personally made this mistake a couple of times and was immediately warned not to do so. The reason given that Bengalis refer to Indian Bengal state people or the pre-partition East Pakistan.

Sarfaraz is the last person I would expect to know about this but he has surprised me with his cultural knowledge and lack of ignorance. Very well deserved danda for the ignorant journalist.

 

[surprise-package]

Am a bit lost with whats wrong here. Anyone wants to fill in the gap? Bengalis is a derogatory term? Since when? I refer to my BD friends as Bengali and they are fine with that. Never seen any objection from it. Is this term used as a derogatory word in PAK? Similar to how pak"i" is used as one in UK but not here in canada?

Sorry to know about your ignorance. All my Bangladeshi friends in US take extreme offence to being referred to as Bengalis.

 

[jnaveen1980]

He has borderline Donald Trump qualities lol. Never accepts any criticisms. He actually doubles down.

 

[MenInG]

He has borderline Donald Trump qualities lol. Never accepts any criticisms. He actually doubles down.

Bro check your PM

 

[MenInG]

Even if this is the case, I don't understand why Sarfraz is being partially praised for what he said. He basically says this in a mocking context, as if to say: "Ooh, be careful with what you're saying, those snowflakes might ban you for something minor like they did with me". This is basically what his disappointingly unremorseful statement implies.

A lot of people have missed this point.

 

[Karachi]

All the players of Bangladesh team r Bengalis. That's why they r refered as such. There's absolutely nothing wrong in it.

If some backward illiterate fool use this term as something derogatory than it's their problem. But that doesn't necessarily mean mean people should stop calling Bangladeshis as Bengalis.

I wonder what would be our reaction, if Indian or England team Captain had called Pakistani team "PAK1".

 

[latecut]

It just shows the poor upbringing of Sarfaraz and also the backward nature of the people of Karachi (if they truly consider the term bengali as a derogatory remark)

Pakistan itself has a sizable population who r of bengali origins. Does that mean they r always harassed for their ethnicity?

Even if some backward illiterate fools use bengali word in a negative way doesn't necessarily mean the captain of the national team should show the similar attitude and advocate that in a press conference.

Secondly he was taking a dig at the ban he got for making derogatory remark against that African player. This clearly shows that he hasn't learnt his lesson and he wasn't sincere in his apology.

He's a disgraceful human being without any self respect. It's a shame that he's the captain of a national team.

By this statement, you have exposed yourself as someone who is not a Bangladeshi but just pretending to be one. Bengali is a term a true Bangladeshi will take serious exception to.

 

[Slog]

So the rest of us in the world must not use this word because some backward people in Pakistan use it as derogatory term?

Similarly then P@ki should be allowed outside Britain

 

[Slog]

Not really bro.

Never knew it was before reading through this thread.

It is

 

[Slog]

Bengali is a racist term in Pakistan and definitely in Karachi. Sarfaraz is dealing with a local reporter so the context of him correcting him is valid. It’s not that the term Bengali was used but the term and connotation of it. What meaning the word holds in Bangladesh, or England or wherever is irrelevant since this is an exchange in Pakistan for Pakistanis.

The people who are saying why is calling Bengalis calling Bengalis offensive are missing the point and lack a few brain cells perhaps. By that logic calling Africans kaalay isn’t an issue either since they are kaalay. But that’s not how it is.

People just want to criticize for the sake of criticising.

The only place where sarfaraz is in the wrong is that based on the exchange he may not have been entirely sincere with his apology to Phelekuyowa or whatever his name is

 

[Sidilicious]

A person of slightly darker skin tone is often called a "Bengali" in a mocking manner.


And Saurav will be referred to being from Bengal, rather than Bengali.... semantics

Ok. I am guessing it’s due to issues of 1971 and before.

In india, anyone hailing from the state of West Bengal is a Bengali. And it’s not a derogatory term. Just as someone from Punjab is a Punjabi.

Generally, the people hailing from West Bengal and Bangladesh could also be called Bengalis and would not be a considered an derogatory term. But in order to distinguish the two, West Bengal is Bengali and Bangladesh is Bangladeshi

 

[RainMan_]

By this statement, you have exposed yourself as someone who is not a Bangladeshi but just pretending to be one. Bengali is a term a true Bangladeshi will take serious exception to.

U r totally clueless about anything related to Bangladesh. Don't really know whether u r a bangladeshi or not. But I don't see any reason to prove it to u whether I m a bangladeshi or not. U can believe whatever u want.

But make no mistake, nobody takes offence if a bangladeshi is called bengali. Its our ethnicity. It symbolises our language, culture and overall way of life. Why should anyone take offence if they r reffered as Bengalis?

Do u know about tagore, malona vashani or fazlul Haque? Not a single one of them was Bangladeshi but they r some of the most revered figures in our country. Bengali is an identity. It's what we r. We take extreme pride in our ethnicity and culture.

It doesn't matter if some backward illiterate fools use it as a derogatory term, its their problem. It just shows their low class and poor upbringing. Even the word maolana (cleric) is used negatively by many Imbeciles. Does that mean people should stop using that term as well?

 

[latecut]

U r totally clueless about anything related to Bangladesh. Don't really know whether u r a bangladeshi or not. But I don't see any reason to prove it to u whether I m a bangladeshi or not. U can believe whatever u want.

But make no mistake, nobody takes offence if a bangladeshi is called bengali. Its our ethnicity. It symbolises our language, culture and overall way of life. Why should anyone take offence if they r reffered as Bengalis?

Do u know about tagore, malona vashani or fazlul Haque? Not a single one of them was Bangladeshi but they r some of the most revered figures in our country. Bengali is an identity. It's what we r. We take extreme pride in our ethnicity and culture.

It doesn't matter if some backward illiterate fools use it as a derogatory term, its their problem. It just shows their low class and poor upbringing. Even the word maolana (cleric) is used negatively by many Imbeciles. Does that mean people should stop using that term as well?

Hahaha. Shout all you want. Just googling names like Tagore and posting them here will not make you what you pretend to be. I have vast and indepth knowledge on this topic.

 

[RainMan_]

I wonder what would be our reaction, if Indian or England team Captain had called Pakistani team "PAK1".

Wrong analogy.

**** is used as a derogatory term by everybody around the world. Pakistanis take offence if they are called ****.

But that's not the case with the term bengali. It's the name of an ethnicity. Bangladeshis don't take offense if they r called Bengali.

 

[Madplayer]

I always thought Bangladeshi people dont like being called Bengali because Bengali would imply as someone from Indian state of west Bengal. Have seen at least 1 poster here who wanted people to not use the term Bengali for Bangladeshis.

 

[Pakistanian]

Similarly then P@ki should be allowed outside Britain

Bengali is an ethnicity and not considered offensive.

 

[Obaidd]

Enough of him already.

Can’t the board see his pathetic on and off the field performances? This is so frustrating..

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Being called bengali is same as being called punjabi where a province was cut in half and east and west was made ,while they can have diff names after partition its in no way racist at all.

how can nation having national language Bengali,cant be called bengolis.while i understand some may want them to be called bangladeshi but the whole word is too long and odd to spell,thus desis mostly use bengoli term.
May be pre-71 ,pakistanis used it as degnatory term but in india it has never been anything but just ethinicity like gujarati ot marathi

 

[DeadlyYorker]

Similarly then P@ki should be allowed outside Britain

P@ki wasnt used to reflect as ethinicity at all.while for hundreds of years people living in bengal were known as bengalis.

Difference is equal to height of mount Everest

 

[MenInG]

Back to topic as to what Sarfaraz said etc.

Larger discussion can be done in TPS

 

[sweep_shot]

I always thought Bangladeshi people dont like being called Bengali because Bengali would imply as someone from Indian state of west Bengal. Have seen at least 1 poster here who wanted people to not use the term Bengali for Bangladeshis.

I prefer the term Bangladeshi more than Bengali because of the distinctiveness. I feel no attachment to West Bengal so I prefer the correct term which is Bangladeshi.

Having said that, I am not too fussy about it.

Back to topic. Sarfraz should take a communication course because he seems to get in trouble regularly.

 

[PakPremi]

Huh? Sounds like a mountain is being made out of a molehill here.

All he said was don’t call them Bengali call them Bangladeshi or else she could land in hot water.

I don’t think he implied that what happened to him was unjust. I think people are choosing to interpret it that way.

Finally someone with common sense and no agenda.

 

[aukhan]

Trying to be over smart here. He was satisfied which tells you alot about his mindset. Mediocre cricketer and captain.

 

[MenInG]

Finally someone with common sense and no agenda.

Watch the video again. He was being sarcastic. Clearly he hasn't still understood why he was banned for the South Africa incident.

 

[the Great Khan]

Watch the video again. He was being sarcastic. Clearly he hasn't still understood why he was banned for the South Africa incident.

no he wasnt. i watched the press conference live. He caveat-ed the initial joke with a serious point straight away. And said in urdu "yeah ghair ikhlaqi baat hay aur aap ko nahin kehna chahyay"

 

[the Great Khan]

i thought he did the right thing and scolded the reporter for being an idiot..

 

[Haripotter]

It's not about what word is wrong or right but giving a press conference and correcting a journalist over a controversial remark is like mocking the controversy for which you were punished

 

[MenInG]

no he wasnt. i watched the press conference live. He caveat-ed the initial joke with a serious point straight away. And said in urdu "yeah ghair ikhlaqi baat hay aur aap ko nahin kehna chahyay"

Bro - you and I can both understand Urdu and we know what happened there.

 

[Sidilicious]

no he wasnt. i watched the press conference live. He caveat-ed the initial joke with a serious point straight away. And said in urdu "yeah ghair ikhlaqi baat hay aur aap ko nahin kehna chahyay"

Then what was the nonsense about ‘video ban jaayega...’? He clearly was sarcastic.

Pakistan’s captain needs to be some one more polished. This guy is one of the main representatives of your country.

And the captain should be in the XI on merit as a player, and not as a captain.

 

[BalluBalleBaaz]

It seems like Sarfraz added more fuel to fire. Both the reporter and Sarfraz seem to be clueless as to why what they said were wrong lol. Sarfraz clearly reckons he was in right with that South Africa incident and the reporter is probably just clueless.

Surely this shouldn't get this much attention, he is badbola im sure he has said other crazier things. One thing is clear, he has some good media backing.

 

[light]

Sorry to know about your ignorance. All my Bangladeshi friends in US take extreme offence to being referred to as Bengalis.

I actually had a discussion about it with one of my good friend. He was as surprised as I was tbh. He had no clue that the term Bengali was used as a derogatory word in pak.

 

[dhump]

This is the reason why education is essential for everyone.

 

[MenInG]

I actually had a discussion about it with one of my good friend. He was as surprised as I was tbh. He had no clue that the term Bengali was used as a derogatory word in pak.

I spoke to a Bangladeshi colleague and she was shocked that this term was used to describe people from Bangladesh in Pakistan.

 

[ManFan]

Would be surprised if you can tell the difference in being Bengali and being Bangladeshi? Let’s see how mentally stable or shot you are.

Bangladeshi is someone who is born or raised in the country of Bangladesh.

Bengali is someone who is from the region of Bengal; that includes parts of India and Bangladesh.

That’s why Ganguly (Indian) is referred to as the “Bengal Tiger”.

But here’s the thing; there’s no way you could know if I Googled or not. So, the whole point of asking me to prove you otherwise is not ideal.

There’s nothing wrong with Sarfraz’s education level but it has yielded some disadvantages on the international stage of captaincy.

 

[the Great Khan]

Then what was the nonsense about ‘video ban jaayega...’? He clearly was sarcastic.

Pakistan’s captain needs to be some one more polished. This guy is one of the main representatives of your country.

And the captain should be in the XI on merit as a player, and not as a captain.

the first part was a joke and then he caveated it by being serious..it happens all the time..its being blown out of all proportion..you dont use words like ghair ikhlaq unless your serious..

its disgraceful that we are misrepresenting the whole incident..I actually thought it was a good gesture and he showed respect to the bangladeshis..but I guess he's sarfaraz and we have to have a go at the pakistan captain no matter what..

 

[the Great Khan]

It seems like Sarfraz added more fuel to fire. Both the reporter and Sarfraz seem to be clueless as to why what they said were wrong lol. Sarfraz clearly reckons he was in right with that South Africa incident and the reporter is probably just clueless.

Surely this shouldn't get this much attention, he is badbola im sure he has said other crazier things. One thing is clear, he has some good media backing.

clearly you have no idea what your talking about as it was sarfaraz who corrected the journalist..

 

[Syed1]

Some people are completely missing the point and applying their own logic and rules to it. This press conference was in Pakistan and being conducted and attended by Pakistanis, therefore saying "Bengali" in a Pakistani context is considered negative. That is why Sarfaraz corrected her. If Bangladeshi people have no problem with the word "Bengali" that is well and good, but in Pakistan it is often used as a derogatory term.


Kind of like how people of African American descent refer to each other as the N-word in endearment but any other race using the word for them is massive no-no.

 

[sshakir411]

Bangladeshi is someone who is born or raised in the country of Bangladesh.

Bengali is someone who is from the region of Bengal; that includes parts of India and Bangladesh.

That’s why Ganguly (Indian) is referred to as the “Bengal Tiger”.

But here’s the thing; there’s no way you could know if I Googled or not. So, the whole point of asking me to prove you otherwise is not ideal.

There’s nothing wrong with Sarfraz’s education level but it has yielded some disadvantages on the international stage of captaincy.

I think it’s delusional of Pakistani fans to demand someone educated to be our captain. Educated kids who go to good schools don’t spend 6+ hours a day playing cricket...and that’s the level you need to be on to become an international player. Unfortunately, only kids from villages or impoverished backgrounds can skip their daily life duties and spend their days playing cricket. Last time we put an ‘educated’ bloke as captain he embarrassed us far more than Sarfraz could.

 

[Snowflake]

I spoke to a Bangladeshi colleague and she was shocked that this term was used to describe people from Bangladesh in Pakistan.

Why the shock?

Isn't Bengali the official language in Bangladesh too?

What are we missing here?

 

[ManFan]

I think it’s delusional of Pakistani fans to demand someone educated to be our captain. Educated kids who go to good schools don’t spend 6+ hours a day playing cricket...and that’s the level you need to be on to become an international player. Unfortunately, only kids from villages or impoverished backgrounds can skip their daily life duties and spend their days playing cricket. Last time we put an ‘educated’ bloke as captain he embarrassed us far more than Sarfraz could.

Being the captain of a national team is not something that anyone can do.

It comes with its own rules of conduct, professionalism, performance, importance, and overbearing responsibility. That is why you rarely see someone under 25 appointed captain because there is a certain level of maturity only garnered by experience and tribulation that can mould you for it.

A captain is almost like a diplomat, a state representative. The reason being that you are the figurehead of a government organized body that is easily recognizable and associated with the nation.

That is why someone like Misbah was persisted with for the WC in AUS over Afridi and why Warne was never made the captain of AUS despite everyone and their mother recognizing him as superior to Steve Waugh or Ricky Ponting.

Of course, an extensive education does not guarantee a captain to be faultless; Cronje could recite Shakespeare at parties for forty minutes and got caught for match-fixing, etc.

But it does present a more suitable image to the world and in an environment that is so visual such as sports, image is almost everything.

So, asking the captain to be educated does not demean those who are not but provides a more well-rounded and media-friendly image to those who are.

 

[MRSN]

clearly you have no idea what your talking about as it was sarfaraz who corrected the journalist..

Sarfraz was being sarcastic. He was saying don't say this otherwise you will get banned for this too. In other words he was implying he did nothing wrong by calling someone by his skin color than his name.

 

[BalluBalleBaaz]

clearly you have no idea what your talking about as it was sarfaraz who corrected the journalist..

He did correct her....which is essentially good but he added smug comment.

It's not a big deal in my opinion considering his track record. I listened to Imad's presser and he was very well spoken.

Speaking in front of the media is an art, more important for a skipper. I still think he is good captain but thats where it ends.

 

[orahman]

Not sure why people are upset at Sataraz’s comment.

I grew up in Karachi and I very well know that at times Bengali term is used in an offensive way. Lets put it this way, our society is damn racist, and I am saying it as it is.

Very true, "Bengali" is used as a derogatory term in Karachi. And our society is extremely racist. Sarfaraz could have still corrected the reporter in a more constructive manner.

 

[the Great Khan]

Sarfraz was being sarcastic. He was saying don't say this otherwise you will get banned for this too. In other words he was implying he did nothing wrong by calling someone by his skin color than his name.

and then caveated it with the follow up when he was serious..watch the whole video of his press conference..

 

[the Great Khan]

He did correct her....which is essentially good but he added smug comment.

It's not a big deal in my opinion considering his track record. I listened to Imad's presser and he was very well spoken.

Speaking in front of the media is an art, more important for a skipper. I still think he is good captain but thats where it ends.

it wasnt smug..it was a joke that he swiftly caveated and corrected her for her stupid question..

 

[MenInG]

Why the shock?

Isn't Bengali the official language in Bangladesh too?

What are we missing here?

A lot.

 

[husmukh]

You have to take in it's historic context.
The term 'Bengali' said by a Pakistani was 90% of the time in disgust at the other part of the country that wouldn't speak Urdu and clung on to Sanskrit and Pali derived Bengali.

what do u mean by sanskrit? Most of the words in hindi and urdu come from sanskrit itself. It is the base of south asian languages. So bengali's base is also the same sanskrit.

 

[MenInG]

what do u mean by sanskrit? Most of the words in hindi and urdu come from sanskrit itself. It is the base of south asian languages. So bengali's base is also the same sanskrit.

Lets stay on topic.

 

[Snowflake]

A lot.

Clearly.


Anyway, from this thread, it is clear that the term is only used in a derogatory nature only by a few in a certain part of Pakistan. I have never seen a Bangladeshi person get offended by this term or anyone getting shunned for using this term publicly. Sarfaraz is clearly out of his depth here.

Maybe your "colleague" just very strongly opposes any association with West Bengal because that's all one can come up with in terms of the negative connotations with this.

 

[husmukh]

Bengali/bangali = indian bengali
bangladeshis are called as bangladeshis or banglas.

 

[MRSN]

it wasnt smug..it was a joke that he swiftly caveated and corrected her for her stupid question..

He is a classless individual. First you mock something then you say good words about it. Big signs of hypocrite and double faced people.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Similarly then P@ki should be allowed outside Britain

It already is. I remember watching replay of the 92 world cup final and there was a sign with P Power.

There is a difference. It seems only people in Karachi use this term in a derogatory manner which is why Sarfraz(from Karachi) chose to mention it and use it as an excuse for his remarks which are considered racist by most of the planet.

The bigger issue for me is we have a captain who is emotional, uneducated and worst of all now a pretty rubbish cricketer.

He needs to go asap.

 

[the Great Khan]

He is a classless individual. First you mock something then you say good words about it. Big signs of hypocrite and double faced people.

rubbish... he was sincere and i think he did a good thing..bigotry should be reprimanded at all times..showed what all Pakistani captains should behave like..and he has clearly learnt from his past experience..

 

[the Great Khan]

It already is. I remember watching replay of the 92 world cup final and there was a sign with P Power.

There is a difference. It seems only people in Karachi use this term in a derogatory manner which is why Sarfraz(from Karachi) chose to mention it and use it as an excuse for his remarks which are considered racist by most of the planet.

The bigger issue for me is we have a captain who is emotional, uneducated and worst of all now a pretty rubbish cricketer.

He needs to go asap.

and replace him with who? you lot have lost your minds..the footballification of the human mind continues unabated especially in the uk.

Sarfraz should continue to captain for the T20 and till the next world cup in my opinion. You cant replace him with anyone at the moment..nobody comes close..most of the current lot have not even established themselves in the team. You want to chuck a young inexperienced cricketer into the cauldron of cuptaany..thats madness and never works..

you have no candidates..none..

he is literate in the game and is a fighter..he has captained at every level. Who do you want? imam? you lot hate him too. Imad, you hate him too..amir..really? haris sohail? babar azam? (that would be insantiy beyond insanity)..

 

[the Great Khan]

Clearly.


Anyway, from this thread, it is clear that the term is only used in a derogatory nature only by a few in a certain part of Pakistan. I have never seen a Bangladeshi person get offended by this term or anyone getting shunned for using this term publicly. Sarfaraz is clearly out of his depth here.

Maybe your "colleague" just very strongly opposes any association with West Bengal because that's all one can come up with in terms of the negative connotations with this.

then you need to get out more..