[VIDEO] "A Donkey Remains A Donkey": Imran Khan speaking on his experience in the UK

[Oxfordchamp]

You probably never heard of the Hindujas or Laxmi Mittal..they are among the top 5 richest British ...

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Plz... The guy himself on camera has said, that pakistanis dont feel respected nor get any prestige while living there INCLUDING HIMSELF.

He doesnt even consider it his home.

Like imran said, a donkey stays a donkey

Did you read his book? He refers derogatorily to a certain type of Pakistani, the boot lickers and ingratiators. I wonder who that would apply to? He has massive respect for the others, the ones who stand tall and don't bow and scrape in front of others even on foreign shores.

 

[Major]

Did you read his book? He refers derogatorily to a certain type of Pakistani, the boot lickers and ingratiators. I wonder who that would apply to? He has massive respect for the others, the ones who stand tall and don't bow and scrape in front of others even on foreign shores.

Like i said, he himself on video is syaing what i mentioned in my other post.

As for bootlickers, he himself licked the boots and paid the price

 

[Technics 1210]

Yet indeginous Pakistanis want to flee Pakistan to become oversea donkeys. You couldn't make this stuff up.

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[Technics 1210]

Did you read his book? He refers derogatorily to a certain type of Pakistani, the boot lickers and ingratiators. I wonder who that would apply to? He has massive respect for the others, the ones who stand tall and don't bow and scrape in front of others even on foreign shores.

Dude, these Pakistanis who are desperate to flee a country they claim to love and care about have VISA/Asylum applications on their mind, not reading books. In the meantime they will speak in a donkey language, English, follow donkey sports, Football and Cricket, and plan to leach off the donkey welfare system.

Reading books is beyond them.

 

[dildilpak]

Just saw the video.. The funny thing he is calling the people who are his most fervant supporters & who he expects to fund his campaign ‘donkeys’. The irony of that statement was probably lost on him.

He could have made a point about returning back to serve Pakistan in better terms rather than denounce those ones staying back in foreign lands. And i see nothing wrong with people who have now integrated into the new society & show allegiance to their new country - afterall if Pakistan was such a great place they wouldnt have left in the first place.

And IK should be careful whom he calls bootlickers - earlier it was the West and now its China. They have just exchanged one boot for the other!

 

[Mamoon]

2022 gets better and better for overseas youth.

Their fake messiah got booted out and now he has ended up calling them donkeys.

 

[MenInG]

Ok usual abuse/jibes from people who should know better.

 

[Technics 1210]

2022 gets better and better for overseas youth.

Their fake messiah got booted out and now he has ended up calling them donkeys.

Why did you vote for this fake Messiah?

The game is up, PDM supporters desperate to flee Pakistan have shot themselves in the foot. Think about it, now that IK has been ousted, you continue to speak about IK more, but not PDM, why? IK was your golden ticket out - political asylum - but you no longer can you play this card cos your wish has come true! Oh man, talk about shooting yourself.

As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for, even if it means being called a donkey given your desperation to move to the UK - not happening now.

Maybe you can open a case with Interpol.

 

[MenInG]

Yet indeginous Pakistanis want to flee Pakistan to become oversea donkeys. You couldn't make this stuff up.

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Like I said - scenes from Kabul if today immigration visas were granted.

Unfortunately, all this Overseas Paks are bad etc thing comes from a chip on the shoulder mentality which is obvious.

 

[Itachi]

Seems like British Pakistanis are finding it hard to defend it. It's ok to say, IK shouldn't have said this. He is not a prophet. He is a human who can make mistakes and call a share of his supporters as donkeys (in whatever context he meant). Brit Pakistanis should forgive him for the choice of words.

 

[dildilpak]

Would be interesting to hear how strong cricket as a sport is in a 3rd gen overseas Pakistani family? And how relevant Imran Khan's cricket stardom is.

Surprisingly, strong. My granddad (whom i was very close to & was one of the first Pakistani diplomats to the US) played cricket in pre-partition era & Dad partially grew up in Canada playing cricket, so cricket was always part of my life growing up. I grew up playing baseball, lost touch with cricket for a while but then started following cricket again in the early 2000s era. I have some hazy memories of the 92 WC, but dad adores IK as a cricketer.

Worked with the UN HQ here in New york for a while, so got a deep understanding of behind scenes international politics & i do appreciate IK’s lily-white reputation as a politician, but dont appreciate his anti-west stance & open flirting with China/ tolerating Taliban. And i do believe his Trumpian stance of blame-game politics dont stand him well- he would do better lying low & let the coalition fail which it inevitably will.

 

[Technics 1210]

Like I said - scenes from Kabul if today immigration visas were granted.

Unfortunately, all this Overseas Paks are bad etc thing comes from a chip on the shoulder mentality which is obvious.

Indeed, and I firmly believe this chip is the size of Jupiter is a combination of the following : Jealousy, despair, dejection, dual nationality, superior FX rate, western Passport, welfare system, quality of life (though this can be very subjective), freedom of press, freedom of expression, and the opportunity to fulfil vices.

Above all, I think the main reason is said Pakistani cannot stomach the fact that Western Pakistanis have more rights (and money) than indigenous Pakistanis, coupled with an equal voice. This must truly burn them.

 

[Itachi]

Indeed, and I firmly believe this chip is the size of Jupiter is a combination of the following : Jealousy, despair, dejection, dual nationality, superior FX rate, western Passport, welfare system, quality of life (though this can be very subjective), freedom of press, freedom of expression, and the opportunity to fulfil vices.

Above all, I think the main reason is said Pakistani cannot stomach the fact that Western Pakistanis have more rights (and money) than indigenous Pakistanis, coupled with an equal voice. This must truly burn them.

Didn't know that the situation back in Pakistan is such horrible

 

[Champ_Pal]

Basically what he is saying is an outsider can never really integrate completely and will never be fully accepted by natives.
But his choice of words are terrible. He called himself and all overseas Pakistanis as Donkeys.

 

[Technics 1210]

Didn't know that the situation back in Pakistan is such horrible

Not as bad as Indians desperate to flee 'incredible' India for a better life in the West, despite claims of a booming economy and better quality of life.

Take your gas lighting posts elsewhere.

 

[Technics 1210]

Basically what he is saying is an outsider can never really integrate completely and will never be fully accepted by natives.
But his choice of words are terrible. He called himself and all overseas Pakistanis as Donkeys.

Incorrect. This is not a point of integration but allegiance.

The majority of Pakistanis, Indians, Sri Lankans, West Indians, South Americans, Antipodeans, Far Eastern Asians, and southern Europeans, will happily integrate, but also support their ethnic origin teams before supporting England/USA.

Go look at the matches when India and Pakistan play England as an example. You will see desis flying Pakistani/Indian flags, wearing Pakistani/Indian tops, wearing Pakistani/Indian stickers on their face - and not English flags.

You got to be born and bred in the West to understand why, and worse case, raised in the Western educational system like IK was, to understand why.

 

[MenInG]

Indeed, and I firmly believe this chip is the size of Jupiter is a combination of the following : Jealousy, despair, dejection, dual nationality, superior FX rate, western Passport, welfare system, quality of life (though this can be very subjective), freedom of press, freedom of expression, and the opportunity to fulfil vices.

Above all, I think the main reason is said Pakistani cannot stomach the fact that Western Pakistanis have more rights (and money) than indigenous Pakistanis, coupled with an equal voice. This must truly burn them.

This is not true as I know many Pakistanis who are doing really well back home and many Asians of Pakistani origin who would give their right arm to live that life in Pakistan.

My point is that there is no point generalizing just to make a few points.

Allah swt has defined how and where we live and its down to us to make the best of our lives and to improve the lives of others.

 

[Technics 1210]

This is not true as I know many Pakistanis who are doing really well back home and many Asians of Pakistani origin who would give their right arm to live that life in Pakistan.

My point is that there is no point generalizing just to make a few points.

Allah swt has defined how and where we live and its down to us to make the best of our lives and to improve the lives of others.

I was referring to the Pakistanis that have a chip on their shoulder with respect to overseas Pakistanis.

Here's the issue : The majority of Overseas Pakistanis, if true to themselves, will testify that life in Pakistan is head and shoulders above life in the West. (This goes for any ethnic minority in the West). If tomorrow Pakistan's Judicial, Social, & Health system were corrupt free, Western Pakistanis would indeed move to Pakistan.

Instead, overseas Pakistanis are living the best of 2 lives; life in the West, and life in Pakistan - but the Pakistanis with chips on their shoulders cannot stomach the benefits of dual nationality, cross border rights and investment, and of course foreign funding and voting.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Incorrect. This is not a point of integration but allegiance.

The majority of Pakistanis, Indians, Sri Lankans, West Indians, South Americans, Antipodeans, Far Eastern Asians, and southern Europeans, will happily integrate, but also support their ethnic origin teams before supporting England/USA.

Go look at the matches when India and Pakistan play England as an example. You will see desis flying Pakistani/Indian flags, wearing Pakistani/Indian tops, wearing Pakistani/Indian stickers on their face - and not English flags.

You got to be born and bred in the West to understand why, and worse case, raised in the Western educational system like IK was, to understand why.

Allegiance is part of integration.

 

[dildilpak]

Incorrect. This is not a point of integration but allegiance.

The majority of Pakistanis, Indians, Sri Lankans, West Indians, South Americans, Antipodeans, Far Eastern Asians, and southern Europeans, will happily integrate, but also support their ethnic origin teams before supporting England/USA.

Go look at the matches when India and Pakistan play England as an example. You will see desis flying Pakistani/Indian flags, wearing Pakistani/Indian tops, wearing Pakistani/Indian stickers on their face - and not English flags.

You got to be born and bred in the West to understand why, and worse case, raised in the Western educational system like IK was, to understand why.

All this is good for first generation desis, but what about the 2nd generation ones in Britain? Supporting a team in cricket is one thing, but where would their fealty lie in case a skirmish breaks out between the two countries?

Whatever be right or wrong, i can never support another country nor its politicians over the one i was born in. Hence i am surprised to see so much support here for IK who is open in his condemnation for the West & his pro-China bias.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

All this is good for first generation desis, but what about the 2nd generation ones in Britain? Supporting a team in cricket is one thing, but where would their fealty lie in case a skirmish breaks out between the two countries?

Whatever be right or wrong, i can never support another country nor its politicians over the one i was born in. Hence i am surprised to see so much support here for IK who is open in his condemnation for the West & his pro-China bias.

Loyalty must always be to the country you call home, but that doesn't mean a Brit has to accept every policy his or her govt implements. So if Imran Khan wants to condemn the bombing of his Pakistan territory, he is well justified to be perfectly honest, you will find plenty of westerners who agree with him. And if he is pro-China because he believes that's the way forward for Pakistan, that's his look out, not my problem.

 

[dildilpak]

Loyalty must always be to the country you call home, but that doesn't mean a Brit has to accept every policy his or her govt implements. So if Imran Khan wants to condemn the bombing of his Pakistan territory, he is well justified to be perfectly honest, you will find plenty of westerners who agree with him. And if he is pro-China because he believes that's the way forward for Pakistan, that's his look out, not my problem.

IK has a right to do whatever he wants, but as an American or a Brit, my focus will be whatever is right for my country even if it clashes with the viewpoint of the country of my forefathers. For eg, a first generation immigrant like Ilhan Omar can have her own views but i would question her fealty to America if she meets & praises somebody who has accused her own government of conspiracy. Thats the difference between a native & an immigrant.

 

[Local.Dada]

I was referring to the Pakistanis that have a chip on their shoulder with respect to overseas Pakistanis.

Here's the issue : The majority of Overseas Pakistanis, if true to themselves, will testify that life in Pakistan is head and shoulders above life in the West. (This goes for any ethnic minority in the West). If tomorrow Pakistan's Judicial, Social, & Health system were corrupt free, Western Pakistanis would indeed move to Pakistan.

Instead, overseas Pakistanis are living the best of 2 lives; life in the West, and life in Pakistan - but the Pakistanis with chips on their shoulders cannot stomach the benefits of dual nationality, cross border rights and investment, and of course foreign funding and voting.

Overseas Pakistanis is a very broad term. There is a gulf in difference between the sensibilities, ethics, lifestyles, education, issues etc between the type that someone like Imran Khan actually hangs out with and the the type that actually vote for him mesmerized by his cult of personality.

I personally have seen a lot of difference between the average American Pakistani that I interact with and some British origin Pakistanis on this forum in a lot of things. At least on the surface.

 

[Technics 1210]

Overseas Pakistanis is a very broad term. There is a gulf in difference between the sensibilities, ethics, lifestyles, education, issues etc between the type that someone like Imran Khan actually hangs out with and the the type that actually vote for him mesmerized by his cult of personality.

I personally have seen a lot of difference between the average American Pakistani that I interact with and some British origin Pakistanis on this forum in a lot of things. At least on the surface.

Overseas Pakistanis is a confined term cos you are on PP, lets talk ALL Asians immigrants overseas, including Indians.

Tell me why Indians born in the UK, are waving Indian flags in Indian tops, shouting in Hindi at English games?

 

[MenInG]

In case you are wondering where your posts are gone, its because of their low quality.

Post more like that and we will delete more

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ok we locals have been stoped from excelling due to chor gang.

Again, what about the overseas that are already living their? Or does chor gang also effect them somehow due to no jurisdiction?

Imran was talking about himself. He was never British so makes sense.

Imran has also praised the British Pakistanis.

Both are more Pakistani than supporters of crooks and thieves.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

IK has a right to do whatever he wants, but as an American or a Brit, my focus will be whatever is right for my country even if it clashes with the viewpoint of the country of my forefathers. For eg, a first generation immigrant like Ilhan Omar can have her own views but i would question her fealty to America if she meets & praises somebody who has accused her own government of conspiracy. Thats the difference between a native & an immigrant.

Maybe her govt is involved in a conspiracy, not really my place to say. Americans are allowed to view their govt critically and honestly, as are we Brits if we feel the need to. That is the true difference between a native and an immigrant.