[VIDEO] Babar Azam is quite overrated

[PakPremi]

Oh please don't start with these.

These made for order excuses is the beginning of a slippery slope as we've seen with other players.

Babar needs no excuse he will score plenty of runs in his career and in all situations. Posters being naive.

 

[HasanA]

Don't know which are worst. Pakistani fans who latch onto one thread created just before a series and ignoring all his test improvements or their twisted logic attempting to prove they are right

 

[Hyperion66]

He is a far better Test batsman than Jadeja.

There is basically no middle ground for many of the Pak posters here, if he scores a century next game the same posters would shout at the top of their lungs how he is already better than Kohli

 

[Zaz]

After one innings the knives are out for him

 

[Forward Defensive Push]

After one innings the knives are out for him

This useless thread will be bumped everytime he fails - like every batsman including Don Bradman has

 

[Canistani Hero]

Farcical. Babar is appropriately rated. The best batsman to come out of this country in the last 15 years

 

[JaDed]

There is basically no middle ground for many of the Pak posters here, if he scores a century next game the same posters would shout at the top of their lungs how he is already better than Kohli

Lmao so true!

 

[Hyperion66]

Babar is a fantastic batsman for Pakistan but he is a tier below the level of fab 4. Not rubbing it in just cuz he had a bad day today, I have been maintaining the same stance for a very long time. He is incredibly overrated in this forum which is understandable considering this is a Pakistani forum. To be even compared with the fab 4 he needs to have a tear way series or two, so far he has none. Also funny *** is that when posters already replaced Root with him in their own mental universe, Root has performed at every nook and corner of the cricketing world and against every bowling attack, Babar has light years to go match that stature.

 

[Varun]

Babar needs no excuse he will score plenty of runs in his career and in all situations. Posters being naive.

Exactly. This is just one innings.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Azhar, Fawad, Rizwan ?

None of them are proven test batsmen. You could argue Azhar maybe but he is a limited defensive player.

 

[avihash]

Babar is a fantastic batsman for Pakistan but he is a tier below the level of fab 4. Not rubbing it in just cuz he had a bad day today, I have been maintaining the same stance for a very long time. He is incredibly overrated in this forum which is understandable considering this is a Pakistani forum. To be even compared with the fab 4 he needs to have a tear way series or two, so far he has none. Also funny *** is that when posters already replaced Root with him in their own mental universe, Root has performed at every nook and corner of the cricketing world and against every bowling attack, Babar has light years to go match that stature.

Babar is at best mushfiqur raheem level player. An ok player who gets plenty of opportunity by virtue of being in a minnow team. Would have been overlooked had he been playing for a top team. There is no other way to sugarcoat it, this is the harsh reality.

 

[Sir Alex]

Babar's 100 and 90 in Australia last year were things of joy. Especially the Adelaide one where Pak was chasing a humongous first innings total.

He has tremendous ability, making him captain is probably going to overburden him.

Rizwan is good captaincy material and should be test captain. Let Babar just bat.

 

[Markhor]

His inning in the first and second tests against a very good England attack were very meanigful, not his fault bowlers could not win us the first test, andin the second test Pakistan were in a very trick position, thanks to Babar and rain we did not collapse. Its not always 100 that matters. He could have played faster in the second **** and got ro 100 as well but played for team.

His innings in the 1st Test was not meaningful - Babar got a pretty 60 or 70 on Day 1 with the usual assortment of cover drives that got the fans purring, and nicked off first ball on Day 2 wafting outside off to Anderson when we needed a hundred from him.

In the 2nd Test he got 47 and nicked off again. Rizwan and Abid outscored him.

That wasn't the first time he went missing under pressure in Tests. There's the Abu Dhabi chase vs SL in 2017, the two Abu Dhabi collapses vs NZ in 2018, and the 2nd innings at Old Trafford when we desperately needed a knock from him to put the game beyond England.

I like Babar as much as the next fan but Pakistan fans have gone way OTT in overhyping Babar the Test batsman because of how appalling our batting stocks are. He's some way behind the Fab Four until he starts scoring daddy hundreds on a consistent basis when it matters.

 

[Markhor]

Babar Azam is currently the best test batsman in the world after Steve Smith

Nope.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Farcical. Babar is appropriately rated. The best batsman to come out of this country in the last 15 years

No he is apparently the benchmark for his generation and in the same league as Root or Williamson, if not better.

 

[Hyperion66]

Babar is at best mushfiqur raheem level player. An ok player who gets plenty of opportunity by virtue of being in a minnow team. Would have been overlooked had he been playing for a top team. There is no other way to sugarcoat it, this is the harsh reality.

You are being too harsh I think lol. He is definitely better than Mushfiqur. Mushy was introduced in 2007 and for a major part if his career he batted like a tailender except a few innings here and there. However he improved massively since 2014-15 and became a very decent and dependable bat for BD and that's about it.

 

[Savak]

He has to single handedly win more games for Pakistan and come good especially in pressure situations. Apart from that NZ match in the 2019 ODI WC where lets be real a score of 240 was just par, he hasn't won any other game.

 

[Shazzam]

Babar is like Aamir. Looks good when he plays. Makes you think he is a world class talent. Hardly has any impact for the team. All beauty no substance.

 

[unemployedgm]

He has to single handedly win more games for Pakistan and come good especially in pressure situations. Apart from that NZ match in the 2019 ODI WC where lets be real a score of 240 was just par, he hasn't won any other game.

Agreed. This is probably his best innings. What's No. 2?

 

[shamaan]

Lol...

Babar is nowhere near Root.

He is slightly better than Jadeja as a Test batsman.

good one !

 

[shamaan]

There is basically no middle ground for many of the Pak posters here, if he scores a century next game the same posters would shout at the top of their lungs how he is already better than Kohli

hes not at the same level as kohli,williamson smith but hes better than anyone after that

 

[MHN1293]

hes not at the same level as kohli,williamson smith but hes better than anyone after that

Any reason why root is also not better than babar or even williamson.

 

[Saj]

Nothing ball that he got out to.

Ball was straight, he just planted his pad down the track and was caught right in front.

 

[PakPremi]

His innings in the 1st Test was not meaningful - Babar got a pretty 60 or 70 on Day 1 with the usual assortment of cover drives that got the fans purring, and nicked off first ball on Day 2 wafting outside off to Anderson when we needed a hundred from him.

In the 2nd Test he got 47 and nicked off again. Rizwan and Abid outscored him.

That wasn't the first time he went missing under pressure in Tests. There's the Abu Dhabi chase vs SL in 2017, the two Abu Dhabi collapses vs NZ in 2018, and the 2nd innings at Old Trafford when we desperately needed a knock from him to put the game beyond England.

I like Babar as much as the next fan but Pakistan fans have gone way OTT in overhyping Babar the Test batsman because of how appalling our batting stocks are. He's some way behind the Fab Four until he starts scoring daddy hundreds on a consistent basis when it matters.

I meant third test not second test where he stood fighting curbing his natural game so that Pakistan did not collapse. It does not matter who outscored its a team game and Babar scored three significant innings in England, and as I said Pak would have won the match had they bowled better and were captained well. It was not Babar shot that cost Pakistan after scoring 69. Yes sure if he went onto score 30 40 more runs it would have helped increase the lead, but his shot to get out does not negate the good inning he played. In Australia he scored 100 and 90 too so not sure what we expect from a batsman early in his test career.

 

[PakPremi]

Nothing ball that he got out to.

Ball was straight, he just planted his pad down the track and was caught right in front.

Showed lack of game time or perhaps early burden of debut captaincy.

 

[hadi123]

He’s better than the HTB Labuschagne

What proof have you got to say Labuschagne is a HTB. It was in England where he made a name for himself.

And why are people bumping this thread after 1 innings? Ridiculous. No player is going to score a century every time.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

Overrated in tests not in other formats
Not sure why azhar alis not captain if he's still in the team

 

[Hyperion66]

hes not at the same level as kohli,williamson smith but hes better than anyone after that

You missed out Root, Pujara, Ross Taylor and Warner who are comfortably better test batsmen than Babar. Let him score 10 test centuries than we can talk about his level.

 

[Shazzam]

You missed out Root, Pujara, Ross Taylor and Warner who are comfortably better test batsmen than Babar. Let him score 10 test centuries than we can talk about his level.

I’d argue even Pant is better than him. If he continues his form he can be a massive match winner.

 

[giri26]

Babar is a fantastic player and for Pakistan's sake he needs to kick off to become a great. He has had brilliant start to his career. Pakistan needs Babar the batsman to succeed to build a team around him for the future. I don't understand why he needs to be the captain. Better to give the captaincy to Rizwan and allow Babar to just play as a batter and score runs. Pakistan cannot afford for Babar to tail off in his career. He is a brilliant player but captaincy might just add too much pressure on him.

 

[Rayyman]

What proof have you got to say Labuschagne is a HTB. It was in England where he made a name for himself.

And why are people bumping this thread after 1 innings? Ridiculous. No player is going to score a century every time.

Babar is a great player in all conditions. He does struggle at times against spin, but he has Test match centuries against a couple decent spin attacks.

Labuschagne has struggled outside of England and Australia. He has to prove himself in Asia.

 

[hadi123]

Babar is a great player in all conditions. He does struggle at times against spin, but he has Test match centuries against a couple decent spin attacks.

Labuschagne has struggled outside of England and Australia. He has to prove himself in Asia.

He hasn't even played outside of England and Australia since his recall. He played against Pakistan in UAE but he wasn't ready for international cricket at that point. It was the following season where he really excelled, and done brilliantly for Glamorgan.

And England is a tough place for visiting teams, don't hit me with that cr@p that "enGlaNd aNd aUsTrAlA aRe sImiLar" as for an australian, batting in england would be 10x tougher than batting in Australia.

 

[Khan12]

Babar is a great player in all conditions. He does struggle at times against spin, but he has Test match centuries against a couple decent spin attacks.

Labuschagne has struggled outside of England and Australia. He has to prove himself in Asia.

Lol. Labu hasnt played outside those 2 countries since the Ashes i believe when he cameback to the side. So much for struggling outside those 2 countires.

 

[Gilly]

Babar is a great player in all conditions. He does struggle at times against spin, but he has Test match centuries against a couple decent spin attacks.

Labuschagne has struggled outside of England and Australia. He has to prove himself in Asia.

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

 

[Hyperion66]

Babar is a great player in all conditions. He does struggle at times against spin, but he has Test match centuries against a couple decent spin attacks.

Labuschagne has struggled outside of England and Australia. He has to prove himself in Asia.

You clearly don't know what "Great" or "All Conditions" means.

 

[Hyperion66]

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

Mind you he is one of the fab 4 and replaced Root with the same away average

 

[Pakhs]

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

You clearly don't know what "Great" or "All Conditions" means.

with regards to above average sample size is too small and his got at least 3 tours of each remaining so only the over all average should count for now. Already he is averaging close to 50 or above 50 in England and had a successful tour of Australia. NZ and SA are on the next to do list.

At home obviously he will be a beast, even the likes of Fawad Alam will score plenty at home. Even if he fails in the next 10 innings at home he would still be able to make sure he goes out with great numbers at home as he has not reached his prime yet as a batsmen which starts from 27-28.

 

[Bigboii]

Babar is at best mushfiqur raheem level player. An ok player who gets plenty of opportunity by virtue of being in a minnow team. Would have been overlooked had he been playing for a top team. There is no other way to sugarcoat it, this is the harsh reality.

 

[Pakhs]

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

You clearly don't know what "Great" or "All Conditions" means.

Virat averages around 35 in England, NZ and WI. after playing for at least over half of his career and probably only got 3 years of Peak left.

 

[Pakhs]

You missed out Root, Pujara, Ross Taylor and Warner who are comfortably better test batsmen than Babar. Let him score 10 test centuries than we can talk about his level.

Pujara has a test average of 20 in NZ, 29 in ENG, 20 in WI (LOL) & 30 on SA. he made a name of himself stone walling on flat tracks of Australia and scoring plenty at home and SL. All this after playing 81 test matches and he is now 33.

 

[Hyperion66]

Virat averages around 35 in England, NZ and WI. after playing for at least over half of his career and probably only got 3 years of Peak left.

Virat has 27 test centuries under his belt, performed against the best bowlers in the world in all conditions. Was the highest scorer in the last English series. Had a very decent average in NZ as well but failure in the last series brought that down and performing in Windies is no benchmark. When Babar achieves 1/4 of what Kohli did in test cricket then comeback and we can have the same discussion.

No one is saying Babar is not a good batsman or doesn't have potential but there are at least half a dozen bats in the world, even by a conservative estimate, who are comfortably better test bats than Babar. That is a fact.

 

[Pakhs]

Virat has 27 test centuries under his belt, performed against the best bowlers in the world in all conditions. Was the highest scorer in the last English series. Had a very decent average in NZ as well but failure in the last series brought that down and performing in Windies is no benchmark. When Babar achieves 1/4 of what Kohli did in test cricket then comeback and we can have the same discussion.

No one is saying Babar is not a good batsman or doesn't have potential but there are at least half a dozen bats in the world, even by a conservative estimate, who are comfortably better test bats than Babar. That is a fact.

Virat has got issues scoring runs consistently in NZ and WI both of which he must sort out to be consider test great by the time he finishes his career. Scoring against WI team is no benchmark but you still got to prove you can score in the country which he is yet to do after playing for 12 years and being almost 33.

Where Babar is 7 years younger and already has good tours of Australia and England so cut him some slack. No need to compare him wiht someone like Pujara who career stats away from home are so bad if India did not have other batsmen he would have been dropped not include his low SR.

 

[Hyperion66]

Pujara has a test average of 20 in NZ, 29 in ENG, 20 in WI (LOL) & 30 on SA. he made a name of himself stone walling on flat tracks of Australia and scoring plenty at home and SL. All this after playing 81 test matches and he is now 33.

Considering how majestic Pak batsmen performed over the years in the 'Flat tracks of Australia' I thought you would respect his stone walling. To be considered amongst the best test batsmen in the world Babar needs to have at least one away break through series like Pujara, Kohli, Smith, Root etc. Doing just about enough every series is not enough when you are hyped as one of the best in the world.

 

[Hyperion66]

Virat has got issues scoring runs consistently in NZ and WI both of which he must sort out to be consider test great by the time he finishes his career. Scoring against WI team is no benchmark but you still got to prove you can score in the country which he is yet to do after playing for 12 years and being almost 33.

Where Babar is 7 years younger and already has good tours of Australia and England so cut him some slack. No need to compare him wiht someone like Pujara who career stats away from home are so bad if India did not have other batsmen he would have been dropped not include his low SR.

Lol Virat is a test ATG already. That news may be not have reached in that little bubble of yours which anyways doesn't matter. What cutting slack you are on about? How many times do I have to repeat myself that Babar is a very good bat? Sorry I am not 20 years old anymore to hold someone with 5 test centuries to be amongst the best test batsmen in world and part of the most elite group in cricket.

 

[Hyperion66]

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

Dude has one century outside of UAE and Pak, One!! And there are folks who genuinely believe he is among the best test bat already!! Can you believe this ***? This is like overrating on steroids lol.

 

[Pakhs]

Lol Virat is a test ATG already. That news may be not have reached in that little bubble of yours which anyways doesn't matter. What cutting slack you are on about? How many times do I have to repeat myself that Babar is a very good bat? Sorry I am not 20 years old anymore to hold someone with 5 test centuries to be amongst the best test batsmen in world and part of the most elite group in cricket.

Not many ATGs averaged so poorly in two countries out of 8 regular test playing nations but I see you are ready to cut him slack where you can but not Babar.

 

[Pakhs]

Considering how majestic Pak batsmen performed over the years in the 'Flat tracks of Australia' I thought you would respect his stone walling. To be considered amongst the best test batsmen in the world Babar needs to have at least one away break through series like Pujara, Kohli, Smith, Root etc. Doing just about enough every series is not enough when you are hyped as one of the best in the world.

I have just proven how bad Pujra has been in most away countries and even in Australia he averages below 50 you considered him as great batsman just because he is Indian. What sort of steroid level hyping is that? If he was not playing in India he would have been dropped before his career was started.

Regarding Babar his got many years to go where Pujara has had his years and a proven home track bully.

 

[Pakhs]

Dude has one century outside of UAE and Pak, One!! And there are folks who genuinely believe he is among the best test bat already!! Can you believe this ***? This is like overrating on steroids lol.

Pujara averages 34 after playing 81 test matches and 33 years old.

 

[Hyperion66]

Not many ATGs averaged so poorly in two countries out of 8 regular test playing nations but I see you are ready to cut him slack where you can but not Babar.

I am ready to cut him slack because he has 2 centuries and 3 50s in Eng, a century and half in NZ and a double in Windies. so he did perform there just that not as consistently as he did everywhere else. What 'So poorly'? Averaging 35+ isn't exactly so poor. I am not a stats and spreadsheet guy but every single ATG will have such little glitches in their records except Sachin and Perhaps Viv. You are comparing a certified ATG with Babar who doesn't have a single century in SENA for crying out loud. This is getting ridiculous now.

BTW Kohli averages 14 in BD, I am mighty surprised that you didn't hold that against him lol.

 

[Pakhs]

Babar is a fantastic batsman for Pakistan but he is a tier below the level of fab 4. Not rubbing it in just cuz he had a bad day today, I have been maintaining the same stance for a very long time. He is incredibly overrated in this forum which is understandable considering this is a Pakistani forum. To be even compared with the fab 4 he needs to have a tear way series or two, so far he has none. Also funny *** is that when posters already replaced Root with him in their own mental universe, Root has performed at every nook and corner of the cricketing world and against every bowling attack, Babar has light years to go match that stature.

Root has played for a very long time and just scored two 100s after under performing for more than 2 years. He has fallen well below the standards of the other fab 4 members and thats why some people wanted him replaced.

Even after these two 100s his average is not quit back in the 50s such has been his poor run. He has just over taken Peterson in terms of runs scored after playing same number of innings as him who was never considered to be Fab 4 level. Babar came into discussion as he was the next best..

 

[Pakhs]

I am ready to cut him slack because he has 2 centuries and 3 50s in Eng, a century and half in NZ and a double in Windies. so he did perform there just that not as consistently as he did everywhere else. What 'So poorly'? Averaging 35+ isn't exactly so poor. I am not a stats and spreadsheet guy but every single ATG will have such little glitches in their records except Sachin and Perhaps Viv. You are comparing a certified ATG with Babar who doesn't have a single century in SENA for crying out loud. This is getting ridiculous now.

BTW Kohli averages 14 in BD, I am mighty surprised that you didn't hold that against him lol.

I ignored BD because from memory it was only one innings if you count it that would make 4 countries. Not many ATGs averaged 35 or below in so many countries its actually 3 and not two as I mentioned before Virat is hyped because of his LOI exploits where he has no such flaws in his record books.

I never compared Babar to Kholi I was actually replying to your thread where you mentioned Virat who also has his failures and average low in 3 countries (NZ, ENG AND WI). Babar average of 37 away is not bad at all if we compare to the players you compared him with like Pujara who has embarrassing away stats.

 

[Hyperion66]

I have just proven how bad Pujra has been in most away countries and even in Australia he averages below 50 you considered him as great batsman just because he is Indian. What sort of steroid level hyping is that? If he was not playing in India he would have been dropped before his career was started.

Regarding Babar his got many years to go where Pujara has had his years and a proven home track bully.

First of all you need to learn how not to put your words in someone else's mouth and then read the posts slowly and carefully and process the reply in your head first before typing them out in the open. Where did I say Pujara is a 'Great' batsman or ATG or something along the same lines? I consider him as a damn good test batsman and an asset to our team. He did achieve something that none of your actual ATGs managed to do.

BTW pretty rich that you are continuously calling Pujara HTB while your own guy averages 137 at home and 45 overall

 

[Pakhs]

First of all you need to learn how not to put your words in someone else's mouth and then read the posts slowly and carefully and process the reply in your head first before typing them out in the open. Where did I say Pujara is a 'Great' batsman or ATG or something along the same lines? I consider him as a damn good test batsman and an asset to our team. He did achieve something that none of your actual ATGs managed to do.

BTW pretty rich that you are continuously calling Pujara HTB while your own guy averages 137 at home and 45 overall

Babar career has just started he has not a proven home track bully but what is steroid level hyping is comparing him to to Pujara who averages in 20s in ENG, NZ & SA lol.

But just to go with your argument Babar average 137 at home compare to Pujara who averages 60. Pujara and Rohit have been two away failures of purest definition among batsmen who have played regularly for long time from the subcontinent.

Learn to know the deference between 25 years old to 33 year old proven away failure test specialist.

 

[Hyperion66]

Root has played for a very long time and just scored two 100s after under performing for more than 2 years. He has fallen well below the standards of the other fab 4 members and thats why some people wanted him replaced.

Even after these two 100s his average is not quit back in the 50s such has been his poor run. He has just over taken Peterson in terms of runs scored after playing same number of innings as him who was never considered to be Fab 4 level. Babar came into discussion as he was the next best..

How does Root's loss of form automatically elevates Babar to the Fab 4 level with one century outside of Asia? What next best? Is this is a lucky draw of some kind? How is Babar is better than Taylor, Pujara or Warner?

 

[Pakhs]

How does Root's loss of form automatically elevates Babar to the Fab 4 level with one century outside of Asia? What next best? Is this is a lucky draw of some kind? How is Babar is better than Taylor, Pujara or Warner?

Pujara and warner are proven away failures. I have already given you Pujara away stats (20s in NZ, ENG & SA) after playing 81 test matches and being 33 this is definition of proven failure. Ross taylor average 25 in India, 28 in Pakistan & 35 in Bangladesh and unlike kholi he has actually played two series in BD.

 

[Hyperion66]

Babar career has just started he has not a proven home track bully but what is steroid level hyping is comparing him to to Pujara who averages in 20s in ENG, NZ & SA lol.

But just to go with your argument Babar average 137 at home compare to Pujara who averages 60. Pujara and Rohit have been two away failures of purest definition among batsmen who have played regularly for long time from the subcontinent.

Learn to know the deference between 25 years old to 33 year old proven away failure test specialist.

Man you really need to find someone your own age. I am really wasting my time here replying to such childish arguments. So a guy who averages an astounding 137 and 45 overall plus with mighty one century outside of Asia is somehow is not a home track bully but Pujara who has 5 tons in SENA and series winning performance in AUS of all places is one, wow!!

And please don't talk about Rohit, you wish you had a such a HTB.

 

[Hyperion66]

Pujara and warner are proven away failures. I have already given you Pujara away stats (20s in NZ, ENG & SA) after playing 81 test matches and being 33 this is definition of proven failure. Ross taylor average 25 in India, 28 in Pakistan & 35 in Bangladesh and unlike kholi he has actually played two series in BD.

Yes, Pujara and Warner are proven away failures and Babar is a proven away world beater.

Yaar kaha se aate ho tumlog?

 

[Pakhs]

Man you really need to find someone your own age. I am really wasting my time here replying to such childish arguments. So a guy who averages an astounding 137 and 45 overall plus with mighty one century outside of Asia is somehow is not a home track bully but Pujara who has 5 tons in SENA and series winning performance in AUS of all places is one, wow!!

And please don't talk about Rohit, you wish you had a such a HTB.

Yes, Pujara and Warner are proven away failures and Babar is a proven away world beater.

Yaar kaha se aate ho tumlog?

Babar is just starting out the other two are nearing the end. Warner has openly admired he is nearing the end and Pujara is 33 year old. Pujara averages in 20s in ENG, NZ & SA after playing multiple series in these countries he is a home track bully no doubt about it. Get of the steroids you are on and you will see these stats too. Babar has 7 years to make sure he does not average in 20s in those countries because otherwise he would be judged as home track bully too.

Rohit is a home track bully in test that has been proven too who is also nearing the end. He has had a spectacular one day career but we are talking about tests here.

 

[Pakhs]

Yes, Pujara and Warner are proven away failures and Babar is a proven away world beater.

Yaar kaha se aate ho tumlog?

I have never said Babar is a proven world beater I have said he is only 25 and should be cut some slack because the stats you were bringing up to bring him down I have given you similar or worst stats for your beloved Pujara after playing for so long and in fact Virat has similar stats in 3 countries.

I have called you out for your double standards.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pujara averages 34 after playing 81 test matches and 33 years old.

Babar has one century outside SENA. He has done nothing in tests to be considered among the best.

 

[Pakhs]

Babar has one century outside SENA. He has done nothing in tests to be considered among the best.

Pujara is not among the best he has already been proven below average in away conditions at best he can be described as HTB more over he has already played 81 tests and 33 years of age. Babar is young and a career ahead of him my point is he should not be compared with Pujara who is already a failure in away conditions and at home Babar is already averaging above 100.

 

[Rayyman]

How do you reconcile this with Babar averaging 27 in Aus, 27 in WI and 32 in SA.

Babar averages 37 away and 137 at home.

He still has more away centuries than Labuschagne who has 0

 

[avihash]

Pujara is not among the best he has already been proven below average in away conditions at best he can be described as HTB more over he has already played 81 tests and 33 years of age. Babar is young and a career ahead of him my point is he should not be compared with Pujara who is already a failure in away conditions and at home Babar is already averaging above 100.

Pujara has 2 series wins in aus against the best attack in the world. Let alone Babar, no Pakistani seems capable of doing it in near foreseeable further.

 

[Pakhs]

Pujara has 2 series wins in aus against the best attack in the world. Let alone Babar, no Pakistani seems capable of doing it in near foreseeable further.

So? there are many players who have series wins in many places doesn't mean they are great players just means they were part of the team that was good and won. By far the biggest measure of his failure is an average of 48 in the only country away from Asia he had any success in considered great for him. His is averaging in 20s everywhere else thats shocking for a number 3 bat who has played for as long as he has.

 

[avihash]

So? there are many players who have series wins in many places doesn't mean they are great players just means they were part of the team that was good and won. By far the biggest measure of his failure is an average of 48 in the only country away from Asia he had any success in considered great for him. His is averaging in 20s everywhere else thats shocking for a number 3 bat who has played for as long as he has.

Unfortunately Babar is not that player and never will be; you know that deep down and so does rest of the brigade who are using him as a coping mechanism. Pujara played 1000 balls and hence he is just not any other player who was part of the team. That would be Babar who scores softer runs that even Azhar Ali.

 

[Kroll]

He's one of the highest rated batsmen across all formats, so how is he overrated?

His main problem is he's dragged down by the mediocrity that surrounds him.

 

[ManFan]

Babar is just short of match practice.

Calm down. Also, a younger player thrusted into captaincy (especially all 3 formats) takes years to become steady in his role.

Root suffered a lean patch by his standards for a good 2-3 years and is just now becoming comfortable as a captain and a top-order batsman.

 

[Kaddy]

He is getting unfair bashing after failure in one innings.

He was playing his first test after many months and looked rusty.

I am still supporting him. He will make a strong comeback to silence his critiques.

 

[aqeelPK]

Babar is slightly modified Ahmad Shehzad. He is the most selfish player I have seen since Misbah. Never won a match for his street team let alone the national team. I remember these kind of kids in Pakistan street cricket who open the inns & face 22 balls & score 10 runs in 4 overs matches no matter what the situation. People who compare him with Fab4, don't you fear the God? Babar is not good enough even to carry water & towels for Fab4 in nets.

 

[Esfahani]

Babar is slightly modified Ahmad Shehzad. He is the most selfish player I have seen since Misbah. Never won a match for his street team let alone the national team. I remember these kind of kids in Pakistan street cricket who open the inns & face 22 balls & score 10 runs in 4 overs matches no matter what the situation. People who compare him with Fab4, don't you fear the God? Babar is not good enough even to carry water & towels for Fab4 in nets.

When I used to play street cricket.... I was the best player and best team mate in the whole city!!!

I used open the Batting & only eat up 30 balls MAXIMUM to score 50-odd runs... when I got to half-century, I would RETIRE-OUT immediately & never waste a single ball...

I trusted and had care for my team mates... my innings used to be the best & most impactful!

Babar Azam needs to learn to not waste balls for records (in LOIs).... Test Batting is a huge mess...

I never batted red ball cricket (Test matches) so I don’t know what to say to him... maybe try to rotate the strike to keep runs afloat instead of worrying about 100,100,100,100,100,100 in 250 balls.

 

[Gilly]

He still has more away centuries than Labuschagne who has 0

How many away hundreds does Babar have, he has played 34 innings away so I'm guessing he has about 6-7 away hundreds.

 

[Rayyman]

How many away hundreds does Babar have, he has played 34 innings away so I'm guessing he has about 6-7 away hundreds.

More than Labuschagne because he is a lot better. I only speak the truth.

 

[Last Monetarist]

There's a lot of kneejerk revisionism going on in this thread.

Babar has a long way to prove himself in test cricket, but he can't suddenly have become an inferior batsman to Azhar Ali just because he was dismissed by a straight ball that didn't turn. People are allowed to get out, you know.

 

[Madplayer]

I am not convinced about his defensive game vs spin on spin friendly/sluggish pitches. Regardless of the format that is.

 

[Pakhs]

Unfortunately Babar is not that player and never will be; you know that deep down and so does rest of the brigade who are using him as a coping mechanism. Pujara played 1000 balls and hence he is just not any other player who was part of the team. That would be Babar who scores softer runs that even Azhar Ali.

Azhar is a better player than Pujara, He is now playing at home and everybody can see he is going to average over 50 and he already has better stats away from home when compared to Pujara.

 

[shamaan]

Lots of harsh comnents regarding babar.he will be back no need to worry

 

[Bigboii]

I am not convinced about his defensive game vs spin on spin friendly/sluggish pitches. Regardless of the format that is.

+1 I don't think his spin game is on point just getting by atm

 

[King_Kohli]

Lots of harsh comnents regarding babar.he will be back no need to worry

He is back.

 

[sam_ahm]

This dismissal in a simple run chase hasn't done his "ATG status" any good.

 

[ethan hunt]

Babar may not be the best vs spin but he is the best ever player of pace bowling Pakistan has produced. Hardly overrated. The man makes cricket worth watching.