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[VIDEO] Babar Azam is quite overrated

Babar Lbw Maharaj 7.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 30.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 8.

Maharaj gets Babar Azam 3 times in four innings in the Test series and all them have been Lbw.
 
King_Kohli said:
Babar Lbw Maharaj 7.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 30.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 8.

Maharaj gets Babar Azam 3 times in four innings in the Test series and all them have been Lbw.
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Needs to just accept he can’t score as freely against him and look rather look to defend solidly - the last one of those I’m sure he was trying to work the ball fine on the leg side.
 
Kaka4pope said:
Needs to just accept he can’t score as freely against him and look rather look to defend solidly - the last one of those I’m sure he was trying to work the ball fine on the leg side.
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tbh, this is not a big issue for some like Babar. I am sure he will fix these issues with some minor adjustments.
Even Fab 4 have their own issues, Kohli has issues with Zampa (in white ball cricket), Smith struggled against Archer, Rabada and Ashwin.
 
King_Kohli said:
tbh, this is not a big issue for some like Babar. I am sure he will fix these issues with some minor adjustments.
Even Fab 4 have their own issues, Kohli has issues with Zampa (in white ball cricket), Smith struggled against Archer, Rabada and Ashwin.
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Agreed, just some tightening up, still flowing well in general
 
People need to calm down on babar not scoring big more often. Just for reference kohli before he got his first double century only scored 22 more runs at average after scoring a century ie. 122 average century score. Not saying both were equally good just showing that it takes some time for a batsmen to develop concentration levels and once a batsmen reach the mental level required to score big, it becomes much easier.
 
King_Kohli said:
Babar Lbw Maharaj 7.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 30.
Babar Lbw Maharaj 8.

Maharaj gets Babar Azam 3 times in four innings in the Test series and all them have been Lbw.
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And? Azam is a Maharaj bunny.

Every batsman is a bunny to an extent. What's your point?
 
Struggled against Kuldeep Yadav as well. He needs to fix this left arm spinner issue.
 
The weakness against spin is confusing, being an Asian/Pakistani player.
 
Varun said:
The weakness against spin is confusing, being an Asian/Pakistani player.
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Babar is a better player against pace. One of the best puller/hooker and driver in the World. Against spin he needs work. Does'nt use his feet and is not a sweeper either.
 
His whole set up of playing spin isnt great. He just plants his foot in line of the ball and brings his bat down, as soon as you miss ball doing that ur going to be out lbw. Add to that he doesnt use sweep shot much or create angles in crease to work ball around. YK and misbah will need to work with him in the nets.
 
Not a great series for sure, but I am sure he will come back better.

Coming back from injury along with some poor concentration.
[MENTION=139595]Ab Fan[/MENTION] Makes a good point. I hope that he has a great career, but young players watching him try to emulate him and better him instead of the last generation who tried to emulate Afridi.
 
Smudger said:
Babar is a better player against pace. One of the best puller/hooker and driver in the World. Against spin he needs work. Does'nt use his feet and is not a sweeper either.
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His avg in SA and Australia dont attest to the fact that he is good against pace.
 
I must apologize to the OP.

Babar is indeed very overrated, and it is function of bankrupt Pakistan cricket is today and how low our standards have become.

He is officially off my good books now and needs to improve his mentality to get back in there.

He is a mentally weak player who is thriving by playing in a team where there is no pressure on him to perform and no pressure on him to keep his place in the team.

He is averaging 44 in Tests and has only 5 hundreds and he is still the best batsman in the country by a mile. That sums up the standards.

He will melt like jelly if he has to play in a competitive environment where there is pressure on him to keep his place in the team.

In India, you have the likes of Karun Nair getting shafted 3 Tests after scoring a triple-century, and KL Rahul not getting picked in home Tests after scoring 199 against the same opposition the last time he played against them.

Meanwhile, Babar plays a pretty cover-drive and fans start drooling.

He has hardly won 1-2 important matches Pakistan with his batting. He has been around for 5 years, has never been dropped, gets golden boy treatment and pampering and still he is not producing the goods the way he should.

Watch him do his usual 60 (40) against South Africa and hit crispy cover-drivers and fans will start drooling.

There is a lot of style in his batting but little substance.

About time fans stop worshipping him and demand him to score some tough runs for the team for once.

Extremely disappointed with his batting.
 
He is not over ratted.. In the past Virat had worst duels with Anderson and was out scored embarrassingly at home by smith and was getting out to nobodies. Thats just life for someone who is still only 26 his average of 45 is still good and on par with most greats of the past specially Pakistani.

He will hit his peak around 27/28 ;like most other batsmen.
 
Babar is a poor mans Joe Root. Mental toughness isn’t there. No drive or Will to win. Easily pleased to plod along. Will b remembered as a good player who usually did it when it didn’t matter. Cover drives - His strength will turn into his biggest weakness and will get out regularly to that shot, then u will know his time is up.
 
Is Babar Azam overrated?

Hasn't scored a test century in 1.5 year, averages low 40s despite playing 39 tests, and has scored just 5 tons overall. He's compared to the likes of Smith, Root, Williamson and Kohli. However, these were the stats of the Fab 4 after 39 tests

Smith
Avg - 57.90
100s - 13

Root
Avg - 54.93
100s - 9

Williamson
Avg - 45.96
100s - 9

Kohli
Avg - 44.12
100s - 11


So far, things don't look very good for him. I am pretty disappointed by how his career is turning out. What are your thoughts about him?
 
Hasn’t shown he can make big hundreds and double hundreds will be stuck as a middling test batsman as he won’t be dominant outside Asia it’s his last chance to make it in the next 10 tests in Asia.
 
He is a fine player but yes he is overrated because he is exceptionally good by Pakistani standards.

We have zero talent batting lineup and Babar is the first Pakistani batsman in over 15 years who has the potential to be great across all formats.

In reality, Babar at best is comparable to the fringe Indian batsmen like Iyer, Agarwal, Vihari etc.

If those guys were in Pakistan they would also get hyped the moon. If Babar was Indian, he would have played less than 50% of the matches that he has actually played so far in his career, and he certainly wouldn’t have played more than 5-6 Tests.

He would be a tail-ender on Indian spinning pitches. I shudder to think what Ashwin and Jadeja would do to him on spin-friendly wickets.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Hasn't scored a test century in 1.5 year, averages low 40s despite playing 39 tests, and has scored just 5 tons overall. He's compared to the likes of Smith, Root, Williamson and Kohli. However, these were the stats of the Fab 4 after 39 tests

Smith
Avg - 57.90
100s - 13

Root
Avg - 54.93
100s - 9

Williamson
Avg - 45.96
100s - 9

Kohli
Avg - 44.12
100s - 11


So far, things don't look very good for him. I am pretty disappointed by how his career is turning out. What are your thoughts about him?
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As you have posted the stats, they clearly reflect that his current output is not there at the expected level of a Future great for Test matches. Should be churning hundreds at least at home, for fun. He is 27 already and 27-32 are peak years for a batter. Lets see what he can do in upcoming test matches.
 
Mamoon said:
He is a fine player but yes he is overrated because he is exceptionally good by Pakistani standards.

We have zero talent batting lineup and Babar is the first Pakistani batsman in over 15 years who has the potential to be great across all formats.

In reality, Babar at best is comparable to the fringe Indian batsmen like Iyer, Agarwal, Vihari etc.

If those guys were in Pakistan they would also get hyped the moon. If Babar was Indian, he would have played less than 50% of the matches that he has actually played so far in his career, and he certainly wouldn’t have played more than 5-6 Tests.

He would be a tail-ender on Indian spinning pitches. I shudder to think what Ashwin and Jadeja would do to him on spin-friendly wickets.
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He’s not that good in tests and T20s ODIs he’s yet to win big matches but that’s his best format as he’s a decent accumulator but not one of the best as he lacks the ability to accelerate.
 
Sadly I fear he will go down the Tendulkar route as captain. Tendulkar had the ego to put his hand up early in his career and concede he was not good enough for the job. Giving the Indian captaincy to Ganguly turned out to be a master stroke for Indian Cricket.

At the time when Babar was appointed as captain, there were no clear alternatives at all but not necessarily sure if that's the case right now.

Its not wise to keep sticking with a guy who is not a natural leader. Pakistan needs Babar the batsman more than Babar the captain. I hope he steps down himself.
 
Should give up the captaincy and focus on leaving a legacy as a batsman. His batting needs a lot of work as well. Mamoon is right, he would get shredded on Indian wickets. All you need these days is a spinner who turns the ball away from him. Imagine him batting against Jadeja or in the recent past Herath (given that we used to play SL a lot) in their respective countries.

And yes, he is a overated in tests. He is good but far from even being amongst the top test batsmen currently. I wouldn't even say he is our best bat at the moment, that's Rizwan.
 
I am Babar Azam Fan but his test performances are unacceptable tbh.

He has become very average test batsman since England series. Today he should have scored a century but he threw it away. I am disappointed.
 
Kaddy said:
I am Babar Azam Fan but his test performances are unacceptable tbh.

He has become very average test batsman since England series. Today he should have scored a century but he threw it away. I am disappointed.
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He didn't threw it away. He was never in the game. He took singles and exposed tail to Starc n co. Selfish batting.
 
Needs to drop himself from the T20 team and play as a number 3 in the test team. T20 has ruined/is ruining his chance to become a good test batter.

There's no one who is tactically capable in Pakistani cricketing circles so his captaincy is a non-issue. You can make Nauman Ali the captain and this will still be the same thing.
 
He's an exceptional batsman. But even exceptional batsmen have their lean patches and bad habbits. Just need to work on it and get back
 
oatmeal said:
He's an exceptional batsman. But even exceptional batsmen have their lean patches and bad habbits. Just need to work on it and get back
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He can’t be an exceptional batsman if he doesn’t have a way to deal with his weaknesses. I have watched Babar since his debut, what has Babar done to deal with the ball spinning away from him?
 
Age - 27
Test Runs- 2500
Bat avg - 43

What was Younis Khan's runs and average by the age of 27?
 
What you are seeing is a guy who can't deal with the baggage of captaincy and batting together.
 
Seeing Babar throw his wicket today under pressure showed he doesn’t have the bottle. He could have easily batted sensibly on one end and kept taking the majority of the strike. It reminded me of the times when Pakistan used to collapse and Inzamam used to single handedly win them a game, not just once but on a number of occasions.

Shows the class between the Batsman was huge. Babar is a good batsman but he never will be a match winner who can win a game by himself. He doesn’t have the capability. He’s just a run accumulator that goes at one pace
 
He needs to get rid of captaincy ASAP. Both the vice captains (Rizwan and Shadab) need to step up and take the captaincy in their respective formats. Babar should focus on his batting which is the most important thing for this team.
 
He is Travis Head level test batsman or slightly better.

Travis Head :

Age 28
AVG 41
100s 4

Babar Azam :

Age 27( actual would be higher)
AVG 42
100s 5
 
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Not the first time i have seen Babar bottle it under pressure. He can't rotate and farm the strike to protect the tail if his life depends on it. Inzamam and VVS were legends in this regards where they would take a single of the 4th, 5th ball of the over and leave the Number 11 just one delivery to negotiate.

Apart from that NZ game in the ODI WC in 2019 where some can argue he batted slowly at the end for his hundred which screwed our NR at the end which cost us the SF spot, that SA T-20 match and India T-20 game, he has always gone missing under pressure.

The shot he played today as captain was embarrassing and i hope he gets roasted for it by the higher authorities.
 
Babar has yet to score a big 100 until he does he will be labeled as a good Bateman rather than a great batesman
 
Not the first time i have seen Babar bottle it under pressure. He can't rotate and farm the strike to protect the tail if his life depends on it. Inzamam and VVS were legends in this regards where they would take a single of the 4th, 5th ball of the over and leave the Number 11 just one delivery to negotiate.

Apart from that NZ game in the ODI WC in 2019 where some can argue he batted slowly at the end for his hundred which screwed our NR at the end which cost us the SF spot, that SA T-20 match and India T-20 game, he has always gone missing under pressure.

The shot he played today as captain was embarrassing and i hope he gets roasted for it by the higher authorities.
 
Big test for him. Need to score a century.

No excuse today. He has plenty of time.
 
These guys have to realise situations like these are an opportunity to prove your steel. Instead they always look at this as an opportunity to grab a ton or a decent score then get out and lose the match just to say

“Oh well, I scored some runs at least, look at what everyone else done. You can’t drop / sack me”.

Babar has to see this through and shafique
 
Cover Drive Six said:
100 on batting surface at home for losing cause wont make any difference.
Just another case of stat padding
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What absolute nonsense

If he got out with a low score you would have criticised him for failing, gets a ton and you still criticise him

If you can't recognise that this was a very good innings then I don't think this sport is for you
 
Brilliant ton just when most required against a decent attack. Solid and attractive batting.
 
Good stuff from babar today Now bat on and make it a double n save\ win the game for pakistan tmrw
 
A defining knock. Babar really needed this for his own career and to help Pakistan save the game. Well done sir.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
100 on batting surface at home for losing cause wont make any difference.
Just another case of stat padding
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How many test centuries did Dhoni make outside India , cant really think of 1 , was there 1 ? and also how many test wins as captain outside India

Name Indian batsmen in the last decade who has scored more than 5 100s in SENA tests except Kohli..

AFAIK Pujara , Rahane, Rahul all of them feast 100s on Indian pitches,,, thats also called stats padding... some serious stats padding there :kp
 
ask_analyse_act said:
How many test centuries did Dhoni make outside India , cant really think of 1 , was there 1 ? and also how many test wins as captain outside India

Name Indian batsmen in the last decade who has scored more than 5 100s in SENA tests except Kohli..

AFAIK Pujara , Rahane, Rahul all of them feast 100s on Indian pitches,,, thats also called stats padding... some serious stats padding there :kp
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You should compare with Rishabh Pant who scored more Test 100's than Babar in SENA.
Pant played couple of great knocks in SENA, what Babar did in tests other than Minnow/Home bashing?
 
Cover Drive Six said:
You should compare with Rishabh Pant who scored more Test 100's than Babar in SENA.
Pant played couple of great knocks in SENA, what Babar did in tests other than Minnow/Home bashing?
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So in all these years , u have just started to make 1 Pant..

What about Dhoni who won 3 ICC trophies suck to his best in SENA tests as a batsman and as a captain, lost series like 4-0 and 5-0 if i rmb correctly.... Pujara that guy who plays only test cricket , should got to 100 tests by now, waht was he doing for 100 tests , how many centuries in SENA tests, he also plays county cricket..

After Dravid, Laxman, Sachin and Ganguly retire India is still finding their batting combination, except Kohli who was the captain and the only batsman they look upto, Pujara who only plays tests thats why he is there and in every series always run into dilemma whether their vice captain Rahane sab to play or not lol..:shappy

When Babar get to play such 4 and 5 match test series in Australia and England , then will surely compare with Pant and bump this thread..

Indian batsman get to play min of 4 tests atleast when they tour Aus and England and suck at their best to reel under..

Also for Pant as i rmb scored 1 century against Aus and that too was a drawn test match very recently apart from that nothing comes to mind as scored on winning cause...
 
ask_analyse_act said:
So in all these years , u have just started to make 1 Pant..

What about Dhoni who won 3 ICC trophies suck to his best in SENA tests as a batsman and as a captain, lost series like 4-0 and 5-0 if i rmb correctly.... Pujara that guy who plays only test cricket , should got to 100 tests by now, waht was he doing for 100 tests , how many centuries in SENA tests, he also plays county cricket..

After Dravid, Laxman, Sachin and Ganguly retire India is still finding their batting combination, except Kohli who was the captain and the only batsman they look upto, Pujara who only plays tests thats why he is there and in every series always run into dilemma whether their vice captain Rahane sab to play or not lol..:shappy

When Babar get to play such 4 and 5 match test series in Australia and England , then will surely compare with Pant and bump this thread..

Indian batsman get to play min of 4 tests atleast when they tour Aus and England and suck at their best to reel under..

Also for Pant as i rmb scored 1 century against Aus and that too was a drawn test match very recently apart from that nothing comes to mind as scored on winning cause...
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Are u comparing Dhoni with Babar just because of my DP? Lol

Pant has three SENA 100's
 
Cover Drive Six said:
Are u comparing Dhoni with Babar just because of my DP? Lol

Pant has three SENA 100's
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Babar has a better avg than Pant in SENA btw. Yes, I am not impressed with his no. of tons but he is Kohli test batsman for sure if not better and way ahead of pants and rahuls already.
 
Well he has become the first Pakistani cricketer to score a century in all 3 formats as captain.
 
Kohli has never scored a t20i ton. I don't think there is anyone else with this feat.
 
just confirmed. Only Babar, Dilshan and Faf have scored ton in all 3 formats as a captain.
 
heddie19 said:
Babar has a better avg than Pant in SENA btw. Yes, I am not impressed with his no. of tons but he is Kohli test batsman for sure if not better and way ahead of pants and rahuls already.
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What? Pant has won 3x more matches than Babar has, it's not even comparable. Pant's impact is same as prime Virat Kohli.
 
Saj said:
Well he has become the first Pakistani cricketer to score a century in all 3 formats as captain.
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I think facts like these are meaningless. What is meaningful is his batting so far this test. Pure class and finally, after all these years he has played a knock that he and we can truly be proud of. More of this and he will become the batsman he always promised to be.
 
After a lull, Babar catapults himself back into the reckoning when people discuss the top batsmen in the world.

Played :broad
 
An innings for the ages by Babar. This 196 is just the right catalyst for him to catapult himself into serious test match conversations.

It is only one innings though. Let the climb begin.
 
Quality knock And babar continues to make strides in pursuit of becoming an atg as hes promised since he was a young kid
 
Great Great innings one which you can associate with the likes of Sachin Ponting Lara Viv Etal the way Australian acknowledged him was his real prize well done Babar Azam now focus on decider don't lose it tell curator not to overdo the pitch
 
Legendary knock for Babar. A knock he'll be remembered for.

A shame he didn't get to his double ton though.
 
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