[VIDEO] "Babar Azam's captaincy is like a sacred cow that cannot be criticized": Mohammad Hafeez

He is not an awful captain at all.

He might be tactically inept compared to his peers.

But what he has done to the dressing room is unparalled. Professionalism, work ethic and motivation are at the best levels we have seen since Imran Khan.

Let's be honest, this is not the most talented squad at all. Only Shaheen and Babar himself are truly world class cricketers.

Yet we are consistently overperforming in white ball cricket under Babar. He is really doing a very good job despite lack of tactical awareness.

Nope.
I good captain had to have match awareness in the field, when to bring in which bowlers and how to set fields to different batsmen.

I trust Babar when he is batting but not when is captaining on the field.
His captaincy cost us the World Cup semi final against the Aussies, the Asia cup last year and numerous games.

He seems to lack that basic instinct on the field and I have mentioned this several times over the last two years. I was hopeful that he would learn on the job but he keeps making the same mistakes over and over again.
 
The only thing I’ll say is that a lot of pak captains have had this trait. I can remember Inzi over bowling Malik and Razzak in the middle overs for no reason. But yesterday really took the cake. Obsessed with how we’re going to squeeze 20 overs out of spin and the foolish, simpleton bowls 21.

Spinners bowled 43% of overs and the pace bowlers took 100% of the wickets. Surely there’s a hint there.
 
Sunil Gavaskar:

“I think the bowling changes didn't make any sense because if you have three bowlers, the pace bowlers have taken the early wickets, you want to keep at least one ongoing from one end. I know that you can't really go through long spells, but one person could have been bowling from one end and Shadab or Nawaz from the other end"
 
A lot of you are going overboard here

What is Babar supposed to do if Ishan and Hardik play out the overs of Rauf-Shaheen-Naseem by the 30th-35th over?

Bowl Shadab and Nawaz to Jadeja, Hardik and Kishan for the last 15-20 overs??
 
I get keeping pacers for the death. Not sure I agree, I probably would have got some pacer overs in there. But I understand it he’s not necessarily wrong.

Rauf and Naseem Shah didn’t bowl full quotas. Rauf would have if India played out all 50 overs. Naseem Shah would have finished one over short. Who has been our best pacer in ODIs of late with the best average and economy out of all of them, and was bowling well on the day. That feels like just a pure mistake.
 
Too much toothless spin doesn't help. Best option v India is utilising one strike spinner and part-timers like CT17
 
You can’t be a good captain if you are tactically inept. And you’ve admitted he is, so quite a contradictory post overall. Worth thinking things through before posting.
Please ask your class teacher tomorrow about the difference between balance and contradiction. Surely she will explain to you.

You can still be a good captain if you are tactically poor. There are obviously many facets to leadership, not just one as you seem to suggest.

Previous Pakistani captains might have been more tactically astute but it's not much use when the dressing room is cut in half and your main bowler isn't talking to you.

Babar's weaknesses are obvious but he has a united dressing room giving it's all. This is almost unheard of in Pakistan and thus what makes him a good captain and leader.

If we're talking about a 'great' leader, then yes Babar doesn't fit the mould. But he's doing a good job for a Pakistani.
 
A lot of you are going overboard here

What is Babar supposed to do if Ishan and Hardik play out the overs of Rauf-Shaheen-Naseem by the 30th-35th over?

Bowl Shadab and Nawaz to Jadeja, Hardik and Kishan for the last 15-20 overs??
we arent asking Babar to bowl full overs of Shaheen Naseem Rauf to Hardik and Ishan….. Naseem had just bowled 5 overs.. he could have atleast tried Naseem for 2 overs…and remaining 3 for the end.. if he would have got Hardik ir Ishan out, it would have been a big boost and should have brought Haris Rauf also a bit earlier..
 
Please ask your class teacher tomorrow about the difference between balance and contradiction. Surely she will explain to you.

You can still be a good captain if you are tactically poor. There are obviously many facets to leadership, not just one as you seem to suggest.

Previous Pakistani captains might have been more tactically astute but it's not much use when the dressing room is cut in half and your main bowler isn't talking to you.

Babar's weaknesses are obvious but he has a united dressing room giving it's all. This is almost unheard of in Pakistan and thus what makes him a good captain and leader.

If we're talking about a 'great' leader, then yes Babar doesn't fit the mould. But he's doing a good job for a Pakistani.
So his only achievement is a United Dressing room - which incidentally is assisted by his selection of his mates and them playing in the position they want to. That in itself is poor leadership by letting your personal friendships get in the way of your team’s cause.

The guy is tactically clueless - this is a massive factor.

He has zero presence. He’s shown zero ambition about where he wants his team to go.

Shows no real authority apart from the odd head in his hand moment or petulant outburst.

He has put his friends in the team in the position they want to be in.

Which has led to what you call his greatest strength - “United Dressing Room” - yea well done
 
we arent asking Babar to bowl full overs of Shaheen Naseem Rauf to Hardik and Ishan….. Naseem had just bowled 5 overs.. he could have atleast tried Naseem for 2 overs…and remaining 3 for the end.. if he would have got Hardik ir Ishan out, it would have been a big boost and should have brought Haris Rauf also a bit earlier..
Exactly right. People try to point to extreme examples of what will go wrong. Who even said bowl out the 3 pacers by the 30th-35th over?

But you have to look to finish them off when they are 4 down for not many. Consecutive overs of spin after spin ain’t gonna cut it. And even then ge got his calculations pathetically wrong by ensuring some of the pacers don’t get their full quota.

It was pathetic captaincy that no one can really defend
 
Babar said he would have batted first on this wicket, too. With crazy overcast conditions and intermittent rain (which was expected), I don't know if that would have been a wise decision.

If we won the toss and batted first, this thread could have been even more active :ROFLMAO:
 
100% right decision to bat first in a big game regardless of overcast+spin conditions

Get a score on the board! As it is, India had a match winning total
 
we arent asking Babar to bowl full overs of Shaheen Naseem Rauf to Hardik and Ishan….. Naseem had just bowled 5 overs.. he could have atleast tried Naseem for 2 overs…and remaining 3 for the end.. if he would have got Hardik ir Ishan out, it would have been a big boost and should have brought Haris Rauf also a bit earlier..
Ok I didn’t see the game after 10 overs as I was playing myself, but I think the failure of our spinners to not make in-roads should not be put on Babar.

What you can criticise Babar for is the spinners he has picked. Shadab we know is overrated, and Nawaz is on anti-Imad borrowed time.

India could have picked Axar too for batting but they know the value of a proper/match winner spinner
 
Pakistan should always go with 4 pacers and 1 spin with india.
Thats what was missing in t20 world cup in 2022
And again in asia cup
 
2 spin bowlers choice
5 overs left of Naseem Shah at the end
21 overs of spin
Not bringing a pacer back sooner when Kishan/Pandya were batting
7 overs together of Nawaz and Shadab

Not the smartest captaincy was it.
 
Pakistan should always go with 4 pacers and 1 spin with india.
Thats what was missing in t20 world cup in 2022
And again in asia cup
Not only that, if you are going to pick 2 spinners, why Nawaz? He is as bits n pieces as they come. They’ve got Agha and chacha there anyway if they really need that second spin option. Neither are worse than Nawaz (or Shadab for that matter on current form).

How many spin options do you even need.
 
I understand where you are coming from and I also think Babar is good guy, but it is also dangerous that a poor captain/tactician like him have got so much power that no one dares to question him, this may hurt the team big time in a crucial time.

If his captaincy is redicilous then he needs to be told so he can improve, we don’t want a Tendulkar alike captain. Then he should rather focus on his batting alone and let someone else take over the burden.
I agree with your thoughts as well. Which players are potential captain material ?
- Rizwan
- Shadab
- Shaheen Shah
- Shan Masood (joking)

Rizwan:
Last 10 scores: 77, 42*, 54*, 32, 24, 9, 21, 2, 67, 44 at a pretty decent average of 46.5.
He's pretty much secured his place in the ODI team very recently, but not sure if he's ready for captaincy as he's just finding his footing.

Shadab:
I wouldn't be opposed to exploring Shadab as captain. He seems proactive on the field and he warrants his place in the team (most days).
Is he captaincy material ? Not 100% sure, but maybe worth a stint.


Shaheen Shah:
He's still too young. Still needs to work on himself a bit more.
Also as a fast bowler, I guess one is prone to injuries.
 
Not a fan of Babar's captaincy but he's not going to be relinquishing it anytime soon because there are no viable alternatives, may as well accept it. It's Mickey's job to make the best out of him.
 
If we consider the available options we'll have to choose Wasim as the fourth pacer but this decision will result in a shorter batting lineup.
Shaheen,Naseem and Rauf can slog abit and thats what's required how many times have the tail actually batted in the last year or so ?

Yes I would take a risk as fahim isn't that great in any department.
 
Well Faheem is in for Nawaz.

Probably the XI that should have played against India.

This middle-overs issue needs addressing. I don't care if Babar gives bowlers one over spells, but there has to be better planning and flexibility in the thinking and approach.
 
After reading Faheem’s name in team list, if I were Shanto, Mehidy and Shakib I’ll be licking my lips…

Juicy Juicy bowler
 
What other options? Wasim Jr?
This is on Babar

He failed to develop a potential good allrounder in Aamer Jamal when he had time.

Wasim Jr has one shot like Rizwan. He’s not an all rounder by any means
 
Instead of serving the Bangalis our delicious, juicy mangoes…we will serve them Faheem Ashraf on a road
 
Two things I have noticed which are lacking in Pak cricket for about a decade; at least since/after 15/16. No quality wicket taking aggressive spinner & no seam bowling all-rounder. It's precisely these two things that's hampering the balance of a good white ball side. It's really shocking when you think historically Pak never lacked these two ingredients. From all the way back to 80's,90's,00's to early 10's they always had not just one but multiple options. Everyone is only talking about the spin issue, but rarely anybody is talking about the all-rounder issue. Today India & Srilanka can field with 4 seamers because they have Pandya & Shanaka. There used to be a period when except SA, no other team could produce such terrific all-rounders that Pak had at their disposal. Forget Razzak, Mahmud or Akram ; they were too good, they even haven't found someone as decent as Arafat or Tanvir who frankly weren't proper all-rounders. You could trust Aamir, Gul, Wahab to bat at number 8 & do a decent job. Mind you, these guys have won matches with the bat. I don't think the current lot gives the management or fans that level of confidence even though Afridi, Naseem, Rauf, Wasim all can bat. Hasan Ali presumely could carry on but he can't be trusted with his bowling, his main job!
Someone like me who has grown up watching Akram, Mahmud, Razzak as well as learning about Imran or Mudassar Nazar, it kind of saddens me that the best Pak can offer right now is Faheem Ashraf! A fake wannabe Lance Klusner. Currently almost all the teams have decent to great all-rounders at their disposal which helps them find the right balance. Aus & Eng in fact have so many options where they are forced to keep some of them on the bench. I think Mickey, Babar, Inzy all need to address this issue & find solutions if they want to continue leading Pak cricket. It's a colossal failure of Pak cricket system that in 2023 they have neither a proper spinner nor an all-rounder when almost every team has.
 
I hope Faheem will surprise people tomorrow.

In a 4 way shootout between Usama, Nawaz, Wasim and Faheem, you'd think he'd be well in last position. Nobody even thought he'd make the squad in the first place.

He has done something to earn his place for tomorrow. If he can replicate it then we may be in for a treat...
 
Big test of Babar's captaincy today.

Opposition 100 up after 13 overs without the loss of any wicket.
 
Babar need to deliver as a batsmen today. This is the time to silence all the critics. Deliver against India in a high scoring game by scoring match winning runs. His captaincy will be criticised anyway.
 
Once again today Babar's captaincy performance left much to be desired. After securing two quick wickets he failed to position a slip fielder for the incoming batsman.

Moreover, when Rahul entered the crease it would have been more prudent to opt for fast bowlers yet Shadab was deployed for bowling instead.
 
He fluked the wicket of Rohit but to continue with Shadab at that stage was an absolutely pathetic decision and just typical of Babar trying to “squeeze overs in”.

It might had made some sense if it was a somewhat even battle beforehand and babar was inducing false shots for the risk-reward factor. Rohit was destroying him. It was mind boggling that Shadab was kept on.

Rohit should really be kicking himself
 
He fluked the wicket of Rohit but to continue with Shadab at that stage was an absolutely pathetic decision and just typical of Babar trying to “squeeze overs in”.

It might had made some sense if it was a somewhat even battle beforehand and babar was inducing false shots for the risk-reward factor. Rohit was destroying him. It was mind boggling that Shadab was kept on.

Rohit should really be kicking himself
Rohit did a great job humbling golden boy Shadab

Beautiful beat down
 
Rohit did a great job humbling golden boy Shadab

Beautiful beat down

Sometimes the term "Pakistan Fan" is misused a lot.

What sort of a post is this about a fellow Pakistani from you? Really disappointed.
 
Sometimes the term "Pakistan Fan" is misused a lot.

What sort of a post is this about a fellow Pakistani from you? Really disappointed.
Entire India wanted KL to fail in all matches.Now a days too much favouritism in sub continent team management.
 
Sometimes the term "Pakistan Fan" is misused a lot.

What sort of a post is this about a fellow Pakistani from you? Really disappointed.
Some of the ex cricketers are equally toxic. Clearly they enjoy it when team doesn't do well.
 
Sometimes the term "Pakistan Fan" is misused a lot.

What sort of a post is this about a fellow Pakistani from you? Really disappointed.
Didn’t Shadab throw the young team that was selected to represent Pakistan under the bus? Instead of owning up to his own flaws as a leader?

Shadab needs a reality check
 
Some of the ex cricketers are equally toxic. Clearly they enjoy it when team doesn't do well.
Oh don’t whinge about it now. Let’s be honest. We as fans are divided. We were not United when Sarfaraz was captain and a certain group of players were playing under him, and we are not United now that Babar is captain and a different group of players is preferred over him.

Sorry, the term ‘Pakistan fan’ is problematic now. Everyone prefers to support Pakistan in their own set way
 
Oh don’t whinge about it now. Let’s be honest. We as fans are divided. We were not United when Sarfaraz was captain and a certain group of players were playing under him, and we are not United now that Babar is captain and a different group of players is preferred over him.

Sorry, the term ‘Pakistan fan’ is problematic now. Everyone prefers to support Pakistan in their own set way

Sorry but no one celebrates when Sararaz doesn't do well

There is a difference.
 
Oh don’t whinge about it now. Let’s be honest. We as fans are divided. We were not United when Sarfaraz was captain and a certain group of players were playing under him, and we are not United now that Babar is captain and a different group of players is preferred over him.

Sorry, the term ‘Pakistan fan’ is problematic now. Everyone prefers to support Pakistan in their own set way
There's a difference.Having different set of opinions is fine. But to enjoy when one of your own players isn't doing well and even hoping for them to fail is something I don't expect from a true fan.
 
Kindly leave our religion out of this dirty politics. The sacred cow is a beloved national symbol of Bharat. It’s not to be used like this or mocked. Both of which are extremely blasphemous.

Babar Azam is not a bad leader.
 
There's a difference.Having different set of opinions is fine. But to enjoy when one of your own players isn't doing well and even hoping for them to fail is something I don't expect from a true fan.
I don’t think hating players like Amir, Sarfaraz, Imad, Asif Ali, Umar Akmal etc is a difference of opinion

You reap what you sow
 
Kindly leave our religion out of this dirty politics. The sacred cow is a beloved national symbol of Bharat. It’s not to be used like this or mocked. Both of which are extremely blasphemous.

Babar Azam is not a bad leader.

It's a commonly used figure of speech - no attack on Hinduism

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It's a commonly used figure of speech - no attack on Hinduism

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Mohammad Hafeez is an educated and wise man. I wouldn’t expect him to indulge in mocking of Hinduism so i would like to believe he had no intention of hurting any sentiments.

Just because of the situation between the two countries however, it’s advisable to avoid Jain in so called figures of speeches that relate directly to the other’s religion.

Bharatiyans are also always advised to be careful with their commentary including Islamic phrases out of respect for Muslim brothers.
 
Kindly leave our religion out of this dirty politics. The sacred cow is a beloved national symbol of Bharat. It’s not to be used like this or mocked. Both of which are extremely blasphemous.

Babar Azam is not a bad leader.
it seems like you have return to the forum to just troll about how great india is.
 
Kindly leave our religion out of this dirty politics. The sacred cow is a beloved national symbol of Bharat. It’s not to be used like this or mocked. Both of which are extremely blasphemous.

Babar Azam is not a bad leader.
Muqaddas Gai is more of an Islamic invocation. I believe it’s a reference to Bani Israel making a ‘sacred cow’ to worship in the absence of Musa. Or maybe not….

I’m not too sure actually
 
Muqaddas Gai is more of an Islamic invocation. I believe it’s a reference to Bani Israel making a ‘sacred cow’ to worship in the absence of Musa. Or maybe not….

I’m not too sure actually

Ok if he said Muqadsas Gai in reference to the story you mentioned , there’s no problem with it.

Basically it’s the Zebu breed (Bos indicus) that cannot be mocked as per Hindu culture as it is considered motherly for providing and nourishing our families with highly valuable milk.
 

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Ok if he said Muqadsas Gai in reference to the story you mentioned , there’s no problem with it.

Basically it’s the Zebu breed (Bos indicus) that cannot be mocked as per Hindu culture as it is considered motherly for providing and nourishing our families with highly valuable milk.
He didn’t mean to reference religion at all. It’s just a figure of speech. A bit like in English where there are phrases such as ‘the holy grail’ of something, or the ‘Mecca’ of certain places.

It just adds emphasis, not a religious tone
 
He didn’t mean to reference religion at all. It’s just a figure of speech. A bit like in English where there are phrases such as ‘the holy grail’ of something, or the ‘Mecca’ of certain places.

It just adds emphasis, not a religious tone

Thanks for educating me on this matter brother. I was wrong in doubting intentions of one of my favourite Pakistani cricketers of the modern era.
 
Why was there no slip for Naseem shah as he came to bowl today? Surely management should also help the captain, if you know your captain is not best tactically.. Naseem came to bowl second over of the day, after Shadab completed his over from yesterday.. surely coach should have advised Babar , to take a slip for Naseem, after they came out t bowl, after a day of rain.. they must have done some planning..? Why dont our coaches help Babar become a better captain? Why he keeps doing same mistakes?
 
Poor as usual. He follows the script only. He's a person with low intellect. I don't expect him to outsmart the opposition.
 
He's been very lucky to gaveta quality bowling attack because otherwise he is tactically very inept and lets the opposition off the hook with his overtly defensive nature and approach.

His captaincy record in the PSL speaks for itself where he is as a leader.
 
Only 2 bowlers can bowl 9 overs today
So why give 9 overs to Shadab?
Which 2 bowlers would you have given the 9 overs to?
 
This might have been his best game as captain

Are you kidding me? The opposition needed 2 runs of 1 ball and he had men on the boundary. I am desperately hoping he gets removed from the captaincy after the WC
 
His bowling changes were good. it was good move to bowl Ifti and than let shaheen bowl his 9th over.

But his field placement was as stupid as possible.
 
Mohammad Wasim only 3 overs.

Zaman Khan only 6 overs.

Questionable decisions.
 
Are you kidding me? The opposition needed 2 runs of 1 ball and he had men on the boundary. I am desperately hoping he gets removed from the captaincy after the WC
Thand rakh paa

He brought pakistan back into it with good moves when it mattered
 
Mohammad Wasim only 3 overs.

Zaman Khan only 6 overs.

Questionable decisions.
naa, the decision to bowl Ifti was a marvelous one. Ifti was the only spinner that was spinning the ball.

Wasim was bowling pies and Zaman was not gonna do anything on this pitch. Even Shaheen was usless till the death overs came into play.

Waseem and Zaman didnt bowl more overs cause their overs went to Ifti who would had been the MOTM
 
Nawaz only bowled 7 overs when he was bowling very tight. I think that was a missed oppertunity
 
Nawaz only bowled 7 overs when he was bowling very tight. I think that was a missed oppertunity
Nawaz was bowling pies aswell. He had no turn and would had been slogged. He bowled simple pies. Shadab move was a very risky one in the end spell, but it paid off cause he bowled alot of dots.
 
naa, the decision to bowl Ifti was a marvelous one. Ifti was the only spinner that was spinning the ball.

Wasim was bowling pies and Zaman was not gonna do anything on this pitch. Even Shaheen was usless till the death overs came into play.

Waseem and Zaman didnt bowl more overs cause their overs went to Ifti who would had been the MOTM
Forget Ifthi, he did ok, but there is no way Shadab should have bowled 9 overs today.
 
By allowing an out of form Shadab Khan to complete his full quota when he was struggling? By not bringing the field in when 2 runs were needed off one delivery?
Why did he Pick an out of form Shadab? Ask that question

Babar
Shadab
Rizwan
Shaheen

These 4 are your pillars. They cannot do any wrong. Even if they do wrong, they are allowed to find form
 
This wicket had the same spin that we saw in the game agaisnt India. Thus, the answer should had been to play Usama Mir.

Yet he went back and played Nawaz in the game. While Babars bowling changes were good, his team selection and field placement is stupid.

Like, he was going to play M. Haris and Imam, Abdullah comes out of no where and makes a 50. Abullah was the guy who would not had played because Haris was first choice.
 
Why did he Pick an out of form Shadab? Ask that question

Babar
Shadab
Rizwan
Shaheen

These 4 are your pillars. They cannot do any wrong. Even if they do wrong, they are allowed to find form

The PCB needs to send the message that the next time anyone resists any PCB decision to change the captain i.e. Babar, they will be axed from the team with immediate effect.

Shadab at least should not be in the ODI squad anymore. The commentators including Waqar mentioned that one of the reasons why Shadab has badly regressed as a bowler is because he has not played any first class four day cricket in the last 2-3 years and has been focusing primarily in the T-20 format playing leagues all over the world, his skills have diminished and he struggles badly when bowling long spells. PCB needs to tell Shadab to play 4 day first class cricket otherwise he is not going to be picked for Pakistan.
 
The PCB needs to send the message that the next time anyone resists any PCB decision to change the captain i.e. Babar, they will be axed from the team with immediate effect.

Shadab at least should not be in the ODI squad anymore. The commentators including Waqar mentioned that one of the reasons why Shadab has badly regressed as a bowler is because he has not played any first class four day cricket in the last 2-3 years and has been focusing primarily in the T-20 format playing leagues all over the world, his skills have diminished and he struggles badly when bowling long spells. PCB needs to tell Shadab to play 4 day first class cricket otherwise he is not going to be picked for Pakistan.
Best of luck telling him that

He will gladly go the mercenary way and play every T20 league in the world
 
“This wicket had the same spin that we saw in the game agaisnt India. Thus, the answer should had been to play Usama Mir.”

Kaun hain yeh log?
Kahaa se aate hain?

Pakistan are better players of spin than India it seams.
 
Best of luck telling him that

He will gladly go the mercenary way and play every T20 league in the world

No problem, someone else will take his place. He is welcome to go the T-20 Mercenary way and become irrelevant like Amir has become.
 
No problem, someone else will take his place. He is welcome to go the T-20 Mercenary way and become irrelevant like Amir has become.
Irrelevant like Amir?

Tell me honestly. They called by Zaman Park and Shampoo Wazir to fill in for Naseem and Rauf…

Whilst Amir and Imad are chilling in the Bahamas. Who would you have rather had right now?
 
Irrelevant like Amir?

Tell me honestly. They called by Zaman Park and Shampoo Wazir to fill in for Naseem and Rauf…

Whilst Amir and Imad are chilling in the Bahamas. Who would you have rather had right now?

Amir is history and no longer the same bowler. When was the last time he bowled in an ODI match?
 
The reality is that Babar got more things wrong than he got right in the match against Sri Lanka and going into a World Cup that is extremely worrying.

Same mistakes with selection, field=placings, utilising bowlers, the lack of urgency with the bat etc.
 
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