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When was the last time Zaman Khan bowled in a list A????!Amir is history and no longer the same bowler. When was the last time he bowled in an ODI match?
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When was the last time Zaman Khan bowled in a list A????!Amir is history and no longer the same bowler. When was the last time he bowled in an ODI match?
More and more people are getting fed up of his captaincy but unfortunately they will not remove captaincy from him until maybe World Cup failure. This would be perfect time to hand captaincy to someone like Rizwan. Has a captain ever voluntarily removed themselves?The reality is that Babar got more things wrong than he got right in the match against Sri Lanka and going into a World Cup that is extremely worrying.
Same mistakes with selection, field=placings, utilising bowlers, the lack of urgency with the bat etc.
Wrong call at toss sends Ifty too low down the order.
Opens the bowling with zaman who can’t swing the ball to save his life his arm comes from a different post code & is too short to be a international bowler!!
After the World Cup, unless Pakistan fluke the trophy, Babar should be relived of captaincy duties.
Rizwan ODI/T20 captain, Shaheen vice-captain
Sarfraz Test captain, Saud vice-captain
Shaheen can take over as ODI/T20 captain in a couple of years and Saud can succeed Sarfraz as Test captain.
I think Saud can be a very solid candidate for Test captaincy in the future and if he proves tactically inept like Babar, you can always find someone else.
No leadership roles for Babar and Shadab. Babar should focus on his batting and Shadab should not be in the team.
By making Sarfraz captain again, same mistakes are being repeated. Sarfraz is not a strategist especially in test.After the World Cup, unless Pakistan fluke the trophy, Babar should be relived of captaincy duties.
Rizwan ODI/T20 captain, Shaheen vice-captain
Sarfraz Test captain, Saud vice-captain
Shaheen can take over as ODI/T20 captain in a couple of years and Saud can succeed Sarfraz as Test captain.
I think Saud can be a very solid candidate for Test captaincy in the future and if he proves tactically inept like Babar, you can always find someone else.
No leadership roles for Babar and Shadab. Babar should focus on his batting and Shadab should not be in the team.
Rizwan shouldn’t be an all format captain or WK if he is going to take over as white ball captain.By making Sarfraz captain again, same mistakes are being repeated. Sarfraz is not a strategist especially in test.
Test captaincy will go to Rizwan
This is a very valid point by gautam.Gautam Gambhir on Star Sports:
"For me, extremely ordinary captaincy as well. There was a four hit in Zaman Khan's over over mid-off and there was another four hit in Shaheen Shah Afridi's over over mid-off, and both those deliveries were slower ones,"
"If you want to bowl slower ones, keep the mid-off fielder at long-off and bring the third man up. This is extremely simple captaincy. Imagine if you had 13 runs left in the last over, it would have been difficult for Sri Lanka,"
Sarfraz is a typical Pakistani captain who thinks pacers should play no matter what. We lost the Lanka series cause of him.Rizwan shouldn’t be an all format captain or WK if he is going to take over as white ball captain.
Right now, Sarfraz is the only stop gap option available for Test captaincy. Someone who can do a job for 12 months or so.
This is a very valid point by gautam.
Long off is taken off and third man or fine leg will stand near boundary if you are bowling a yorker. If you are going to bowl a slow delivery than there is no point of having both fine leg and 3rd man. Either one of those needs to be called up inside the circle and Long on and Long off should be at boundary instead of being at Mid on or Mid off.
Because if a slow ball gets connected, it will fall in long on or long off or go for a six. THis is basic captaincy 101. In PSL Shaheen has long on and Long off for Zaman Khan. WHen the idiot Babar did not have that fielder for Zaman khan and it went for 4, that was the nail in the coffin and the match was over there, cause Babar just showed how terrible he is.
Gautam Gambhir is spot on here.
If we look back at the 2007 world t20 final and 6 was needed off 5 balls. Dhoni had long on and long off at the boundary which made Misbah very reluctant to go for a shot there. Had dhoni made the same stupid mistake of bringing long on or long off to mid on or mid off, Misbah would had played over the circle from front instead of scoping it behind.
Please make Rizwan all format captainSarfraz is a typical Pakistani captain who thinks pacers should play no matter what. We lost the Lanka series cause of him.
Shaheen for T20 and Rizwan for ODI and Test. Even ifti can be captain as he has experience for it. Shaheen could be made odi captain based on his T20 captaincy.
I believe that instead of having vice captain, we need to have an alternate captain if Shaheen is captain, cause he wont play all games and Rizwan can captain when he is not playing.
offcourse. Education makes you think logically. Misbah was amongst the best captains we had. As a captain he defended many low total thrillers. Asia Cup 2012. World Cup 2015 match against South Africa. Than there was a match against Sri Lanka where Russel Arnold infamously said that even their prayers cant save them.This is just proof about Babar being clueless and being intellectually very limited to understand the game. Indian players are very educated and literate and they pride themselves on having completed an education degree while playing cricket.
Education opens your mind and allows you to analyze the game better and make Swift educated decisions.
Someone can offer Babar a million dollars to talk intellectually about the game and as much as Babar wants to do it, he will still fail. And this guy is our captain
Babar is a weak pathetic captain. Makes too many mistakes and never learns. Maybe he is just stupid?Honestly I'm not even joking. I'd probs make saud shakeel Captain . Like I mean why not.
He's our best test player, probs the only player who ain't gonna be a captaincy meme like shadab or Rizwan, Is a batsmen so won't be injury prone like Shaheen, and he might just end up surprising everyone.
Yei halat hai hameri team ki, when non captain material Level players are more pleasing to the eye then captaincy material level players.
All jokes aside, Imad waseem should be made captain. Sarfraz test captain.
I find It funny. Misbah was nepotsitic and selfish always choosing his failed buddies over talented players as well as wanting a 1970's style batting order with useless test players at the top and strikers at no 6 and no 7.Babar is a weak pathetic captain. Makes too many mistakes and never learns. Maybe he is just stupid?
Honestly I'm not even joking. I'd probs make saud shakeel Captain . Like I mean why not.
He's our best test player, probs the only player who ain't gonna be a captaincy meme like shadab or Rizwan, Is a batsmen so won't be injury prone like Shaheen, and he might just end up surprising everyone.
Yei halat hai hameri team ki, when non captain material Level players are more pleasing to the eye then captaincy material level players.
All jokes aside, Imad waseem should be made captain. Sarfraz test captain.
Brother the glaring mistakes he's made is constantly sticking to the winning 11. Even though he did this in 2021 t20 world cup which just caused shaheen to get Injured and hasan Ali to get exposed for good. Hasan was horrible in that tournament but he kept playing because he's a part of the winning 11, same way fakhar and shadab keep playing because their apart of the winning 11 even if the opposition is a minnow like Nepal.The glaring mistakes he made last night :
1) Not sending Haris instead of Abdullah on top to take the powerplay advantage
2) When Fakhar wasted deliveries & got out cheaply as usual, he could do a couple of things. Either send Nawaz /Haris with instructions of all out attack approach or he should have forced Abdullah to take the initiative who at that time was playing a solid test match knock.
3)Sending Nawaz over Iftekhar which again proved he has no faith on his premier(& frankly only) big hitter.
4) Opening with Zaman who is clearly death/old ball specialist, Wasim should have opened & Zaman should have come after the first powerplay.
5) Not completing Nawaz's quota who was the only economical bowler of the night
6)Bringing back Shadab & for godforsaken reason allowing him to finish his quota whereas after that dreadful fifth over he should been never handed the ball.
7) Allowing Samara & Mendis to settle down by feeding baby spin for almost 15 overs on a trot where they comfortably scored around 7 rpo & took the momentum away. Should have brought Afridi much earlier.
8) Instead of going for the kill he again took the thirty year old outdated approach of "taking the match deep". Should have known Shanaka & beneath players were worthless, all he needed was to get rid of the top five. If he had around 300 runs on the board then this relaxed method would have been logical.
9) Showed no reaction to all the pathetic mistakes & usual antics Rizwan & Shadab committed on the field. He should been more authoritative & react strongly. Him being lucid on his friends really sends the wrong signal because ultimately it's those mistakes which made the difference.
When a captain commits so many errors & proves how clueless & unfit he is in general for leading current white ball cricket then it's really upto the board to take the tough decision & replace him. If his clique & stooges threaten mutiny then punish them accordingly. But it's painfully obvious he is not fit for leadership. Just relieve him of the misery & let him accumulate along billions of soft runs because that's the only thing he is good at. At least he will break some more records which PCB can use as marketing tools.
Saud was a very impressive leader for Karachi in last year’s T20 domestic cupHonestly I'm not even joking. I'd probs make saud shakeel Captain . Like I mean why not.
He's our best test player, probs the only player who ain't gonna be a captaincy meme like shadab or Rizwan, Is a batsmen so won't be injury prone like Shaheen, and he might just end up surprising everyone.
Yei halat hai hameri team ki, when non captain material Level players are more pleasing to the eye then captaincy material level players.
All jokes aside, Imad waseem should be made captain. Sarfraz test captain.
Yes, and they should also replace the entire team for 40+ year olds. No need to test youngsters like saim ayub when chacha is the future.They should let Chacha captain
- He has experience
- He is intelligent and has an aggressive mindset
- He can call the other players beta thus commanding respect
- He has the best twitter handle
#CaptainChacha
I actually want saud to Captain, like no joke. Actually make it happen.Saud was a very impressive leader for Karachi in last year’s T20 domestic cup
i totally agree with ur opinion, saud shakeel is a perfect candidate who can lead the side because he has brilliant game awareness which he already shown in test cricket.I actually want saud to Captain, like no joke. Actually make it happen.
He is a bit casual. But he can represent well for surei totally agree with ur opinion, saud shakeel is a perfect candidate who can lead the side because he has brilliant game awareness which he already shown in test cricket.
which player u gonna replace with shan masod to get him into the playing 11?Shan Masood for captain anyone seeing as we are desperate!
I would not mind him as an opener or at number 5 even, he played reasonably well during the T20 WC last year albeit in different conditions. He is much more attacking now and is in supreme form. We need a little shake up.which player u gonna replace with shan masod to get him into the playing 11?
As an openner a big no!
certainly Immad has some arrogance issues, as a player i want him into the side but not as a captain i guess.He is a bit casual. But he can represent well for sure
Overall the best guy to lead is Imad. He holds his own as a player and is a natural leader
He is arrogant because he is easily the most articulate and Intelligent out of the whole lot. How can you blame him? He obviously has a better approach to real life than 99% of these guys.certainly Immad has some arrogance issues, as a player i want him into the side but not as a captain i guess.
Yeah its quite early to pick saud as a captain but atleast he must become a regular middle order player from now on.
Only major problem with shaan masood is he never converts his form into international matches.I would not mind him as an opener or at number 5 even, he played reasonably well during the T20 WC last year albeit in different conditions. He is much more attacking now and is in supreme form. We need a little shake up.
After the World Cup, unless Pakistan fluke the trophy, Babar should be relived of captaincy duties.
Rizwan ODI/T20 captain, Shaheen vice-captain
Sarfraz Test captain, Saud vice-captain
Shaheen can take over as ODI/T20 captain in a couple of years and Saud can succeed Sarfraz as Test captain.
I think Saud can be a very solid candidate for Test captaincy in the future and if he proves tactically inept like Babar, you can always find someone else.
No leadership roles for Babar and Shadab. Babar should focus on his batting and Shadab should not be in the team.
Rizwan shouldn’t be an all format captain or WK if he is going to take over as white ball captain.
Right now, Sarfraz is the only stop gap option available for Test captaincy. Someone who can do a job for 12 months or so.
I watched the show - both Malik and Misbah are right but let’s be honest just pointing out what most of us have been saying.Shoaib Malik & Misbah-ul-Haq speaking on TV:
Shoaib Malik
"Yes, there is an improvement, but Babar Azam does not think outside the box. Let me give you an example. For example, Shaheen, Naseem, and Rauf are playing every match, even if we are playing against Holland. These three are playing, so this is what Babar has to think about. They have to play some other bowlers as well, so they are ready in case somebody gets injured in the international matches. Secondly, even if our main bowler is getting smashed around the park, Babar has to give the ball to his non-regular bowler, as the batman will get relaxed and it will create chances to take a wicket. Like this Shadab, Usama, or Nawaz, whenever the leg spinner is bowling, we are looking at that long on and long of all are all back, so they need to bring mid-on inside the circle and they have to keep a mid-wicket out, as we can see that the wrist spinner sometimes bowls full and some time on the shorter length. The wrist spinner is worried that he may bowl a full toss. At least it will provide protection to him where it will create chances to take a wicket, but it is a format where five fielders are inside the circle from 10 to 40 overs."
Misbah-ul-Haq:
"One thing I would like to add to this is that before the Asia Cup, you sent a team for the emerging Asia Cup, and when you sent three bowlers to that emerging Asia Cup, it meant that they were the replacements for Shaheen Naseem and Rauf, but as soon as one of your main bowlers gets injured, you bring the fourth bowler instead of those three bowlers who were playing in the emerging Asia Cup, and you brought Zaman Khan, so there is no plan. Moreover, you have to look after your fast bowlers, and when one of your main bowlers gets injured, you find a backup bowler, but there is no one to replace them as all of them are injured."
bro, in an organization, if you are in advisor role, you have to be really mature and cant just run off if your advice isnt implemented.I watched the show - both Malik and Misbah are right but let’s be honest just pointing out what most of us have been saying.
The one thing I found interesting - and it may be a topic in its own right was Misbah talking about the PCB technical committee.
1. Distancing himself from team selection (the technical committee has nothing to do with selection matters). Fair enough.
2. Then going for on to say Hafeez resigned because he couldn’t affect any changes by being on the technical committee
3. Misbah himself saying they can’t affect 80-85% of anything, but he’s gonna hang around to see if he can make that 10-15% change.
so seems like Misbah is going to hang around like a bad smell until all options are exhausted and then make his comeback in to power.
Fair play to Hafeez for taking a principled stance
What can you expect from this man? He said live on air that he wants to marry Babar Azam.Do you guys agree with Ramiz Raja who is still supporting Babar Azam as a captain after a disappointing World Cup campaign?
This guy played cricket as a parchi in the 80s-90s and was a mediocre player then too….yet he’s telling others that they have a statistical eye for talent because they haven’t played cricket at that level.Do you guys agree with Ramiz Raja who is still supporting Babar Azam as a captain after a disappointing World Cup campaign?