[VIDEO] Dark-skinned journo complains about 'put light on yourself' comment from Shaheen [Update#39]

[RedwoodOriginal]

Man your players are paindu AF, I know they may be genuinely good blokes at heart but they desperately need some basic training on how to handle media and conduct themselves in public, this pind mentality is destroying Pak cricket.

And Indian cricketers like Rahul and Pandya are what? role models? Being uneducated and crass is one thing but being educated, super-rich and a chauvinist is another.

And for the record, the journalist is an attention-seeker trying to get attention. A couple of journalists who were there in the presser have already refuted his claims and said that Shaheen did not in anyway intend it as a racial slur, rather the journalist edited the video in away that makes it seem so. So before you start lecturing us from your ivory tower take a good look at your Pandyas and Rahuls.

 

[Saj]

More concerned about the response of everybody else In that room

That was rather interesting.

 

[Hyperion66]

And Indian cricketers like Rahul and Pandya are what? role models? Being uneducated and crass is one thing but being educated, super-rich and a chauvinist is another.

And for the record, the journalist is an attention-seeker trying to get attention. A couple of journalists who were there in the presser have already refuted his claims and said that Shaheen did not in anyway intend it as a racial slur, rather the journalist edited the video in away that makes it seem so. So before you start lecturing us from your ivory tower take a good look at your Pandyas and Rahuls.

Before going all Samcro on me you should have read the entire thread, especially post 37. Pandya got punished for saying some really offensive stuff in a non cricketing casual interview, was chastised by national media and apologized to the nation. Which shows we don't encourage such behavior, while Shaheen will most probably get away with mocking a journo on national television at a cricket pressure. I sincerely hope I do not have to explain to you the starc contrast between two incidents and aftermaths.

BTW the hell did Rahul do except sitting beside Pandya during that interview?

 

[Hyperion66]

And Indian cricketers like Rahul and Pandya are what? role models? Being uneducated and crass is one thing but being educated, super-rich and a chauvinist is another.

And for the record, the journalist is an attention-seeker trying to get attention. A couple of journalists who were there in the presser have already refuted his claims and said that Shaheen did not in anyway intend it as a racial slur, rather the journalist edited the video in away that makes it seem so. So before you start lecturing us from your ivory tower take a good look at your Pandyas and Rahuls.

Also even if that journo was the most vile human on earth still mocking him based on his skin tone wouldn't be justified. I know a thing or two about video editing too, which part do you think is edited? His clearly offensive joke that made the entire room disturbingly burst into laughter? Or the return laughter from Shaheen and the satisfied smirk on his face just after his joke was well received?

 

[Abdullah]

That was rather interesting.

What do you mean
Does nobody like the journo

 

[Da_Future_Knick]

Isn’t as big as a deal as everyone is making it out to be. It’s so obvious the journalist is trying to make a name out of himself with this fiasco.

If it was genuine why wasn’t it reported when it first happened and why was he laughing when the comment was made initially. God, these Pakistani journalist will do anything to get their name out there.

 

[Pakistanian]

Yes majority of Pashtun's are faired skin but some of them have darker skin tone as well. I dont think Mohammad Shehzad or maybe Ikram Ali Khil would have been mocked in Afghan's dressing room due to their skin color.

It's all relative. In America they would not be considered "fair skinned" lol, Afghan refugees face racism in Europe all the time.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

there's no such thing called racism exist in pakistan.
the journalist is trying to get attention

 

[khan_aa]

I remember seeing a YouTube video of a popular Pakistani comedy show where a famous Pak comedian wore blackface to mock Bangladeshi cricketers and the audience were going crazy with laughter and claps. The disturbing thing is, this type of casual racism is pretty mainstream in Pakistan. India too has the same problem but I have never seen anything as blatantly racist as that on national television, Indian TV and media by and large never endorsed racism and bigotry in the name of comedy. May be there were some low key instances but definitely not as ugly as in case of Pak television.

india is not just a little racist.

they just happen to be SUPER racist when it comes to muslims, dalits, lower caste hindus etc etc. whats worst, it is institutional and policy based.

#1 skin care brand in india?? fair and lovely. go figure.


enough said.


you stick to your problems, we will stick to ours. i love it when indians come and act holier than thou.


i watched the video. more than being racist shaheen was simply pulling the journalist's leg. he was smiling and laughing when he said it - it is harmless. it has no hate towards that particular journalist. still wrong, but not contemptuous.

 

[Hyperion66]

india is not just a little racist.

they just happen to be SUPER racist when it comes to muslims, dalits, lower caste hindus etc etc. whats worst, it is institutional and policy based.

#1 skin care brand in india?? fair and lovely. go figure.


enough said.


you stick to your problems, we will stick to ours. i love it when indians come and act holier than thou.


i watched the video. more than being racist shaheen was simply pulling the journalist's leg. he was smiling and laughing when he said it - it is harmless. it has no hate towards that particular journalist. still wrong, but not contemptuous.

Pleas read before typing garbage. We have the same problems but we understand and accept that. We do not celebrate our racism and bigotry on national television.

I will comment on which ever topic I see fit to comment on, if you are so hurt by my presence here make this forum limited to Pakistanis. As long as it is an open forum I will continue giving my opinions. You need to find a way to deal with that pain I am afraid.

 

[Rayyman]

This is not racist lol Shaheen is joking about the bad light in the stadium

)

 

[Captain caveman]

WTH man. Are they all racists?

Not racist -colourist
This is called colourism, being prejudice of people of your OWN background who are darker in colour.
Very common in south asia as well as in the CARIBBEAN.

 

[Captain caveman]

Pleas read before typing garbage. We have the same problems but we understand and accept that. We do not celebrate our racism and bigotry on national television.

I will comment on which ever topic I see fit to comment on, if you are so hurt by my presence here make this forum limited to Pakistanis. As long as it is an open forum I will continue giving my opinions. You need to find a way to deal with that pain I am afraid.

Fair and lovely?

 

[khan_aa]

Pleas read before typing garbage. We have the same problems but we understand and accept that. We do not celebrate our racism and bigotry on national television.

I will comment on which ever topic I see fit to comment on, if you are so hurt by my presence here make this forum limited to Pakistanis. As long as it is an open forum I will continue giving my opinions. You need to find a way to deal with that pain I am afraid.

what pain? you seem to be projecting. atleast thats what we call it in psychiatry.
you can comment on whatever you want of your choice - cows, beef, urine, modi, amit shah, cricket etc.

thanks for your insight - yes, we all know its a public forum, but this is a forum meant for pakistani public mostly. even if it wasnt, the point is that your post was filled with fallacies and hypocrisy and i was merely pointing it out. without paying attention to facts, you labelled someone racist and brought out that india is somehow superior and secular when it comes to these matters - now thats a joke for the millenia.

to be clear - the journalist was making fun of his own skin color before he asked shaheen. shaheen went along with it and replied back and pulled his leg all while smiling.

 

[Hyperion66]

Fair and lovely?

That is like racism in a tube, can't tell you in words how small and ashamed I feel every time I stumble upon ads like that on television. As twisted as this may be but that is still consumer right just like tanning creams.

 

[Oneking]

I remember seeing a YouTube video of a popular Pakistani comedy show where a famous Pak comedian wore blackface to mock Bangladeshi cricketers and the audience were going crazy with laughter and claps. The disturbing thing is, this type of casual racism is pretty mainstream in Pakistan. India too has the same problem but I have never seen anything as blatantly racist as that on national television, Indian TV and media by and large never endorsed racism and bigotry in the name of comedy. May be there were some low key instances but definitely not as ugly as in case of Pak television.

YOU should watch Kapil Sharma show
They make fun of BOLD Fat women skin colour every one u can think of

 

[Hyperion66]

what pain? you seem to be projecting. atleast thats what we call it in psychiatry.
you can comment on whatever you want of your choice - cows, beef, urine, modi, amit shah, cricket etc.

thanks for your insight - yes, we all know its a public forum, but this is a forum meant for pakistani public mostly. even if it wasnt, the point is that your post was filled with fallacies and hypocrisy and i was merely pointing it out. without paying attention to facts, you labelled someone racist and brought out that india is somehow superior and secular when it comes to these matters - now thats a joke for the millenia.

to be clear - the journalist was making fun of his own skin color before he asked shaheen. shaheen went along with it and replied back and pulled his leg all while smiling.

I may be anything but a hypocrite. We have similar social ills but our top celebs and media in general are more aware of global sensitiveities and usually don't make jokes with racist undertones. I remember sometimes back in a comedy show some skin color jokes were made and there was huge uproar and backlash against that on media.

 

[Hyperion66]

YOU should watch Kapil Sharma show
They make fun of BOLD Fat women skin colour every one u can think of

Yeah okay, we are not there yet when it comes to stopping fat shaming on television lol.

 

[Captain caveman]

That is like racism in a tube, can't tell you in words how small and ashamed I feel every time I stumble upon ads like that on television. As twisted as this may be but that is still consumer right just like tanning creams.

Not racism brother, colourism.
Prejudice against ones OWN community due to skin colour.
Happens all over the world, asia, africa, caribbean and even in the uk, where the english make fun of the scots for being pale and ginger.
I do not agree with it, but it is not racism.

 

[BaankeJi]

Does not seem racial at all. Don't know what this noise is all about.
It was a light hearted remark. People laughed because it was a funny comment.

 

[Sidilicious]

Yeah okay, we are not there yet when it comes to stopping fat shaming on television lol.

Nothing wrong with a bit of fat shaming. A person chooses to be fat, by eating more calories than burning. A person does not choose to be of a certain colour. Is born this way. Before, anyone cries out that people become fat due to hormonal issues, IIRC, about 1% of obese are so due to the hormonal issues. The rest is just mathematics - they consume more calories than they burn.

If a bit of fat shaming can reduce the number of heart attacks and diabetes, I'd be happy with that.

But a huge difference in fat shaming and bigotry.

 

[Hyperion66]

Nothing wrong with a bit of fat shaming. A person chooses to be fat, by eating more calories than burning. A person does not choose to be of a certain colour. Is born this way. Before, anyone cries out that people become fat due to hormonal issues, IIRC, about 1% of obese are so due to the hormonal issues. The rest is just mathematics - they consume more calories than they burn.

If a bit of fat shaming can reduce the number of heart attacks and diabetes, I'd be happy with that.

But a huge difference in fat shaming and bigotry.

I think you missed the 'Lol' at the end of my post. I am all for lecturing fat people into eating and living healthy as a long it doesn't become bullying. I am a bit of a fitness freak myself and know what happens when you don't check on your calorie intake.

On this note, you might wanna check out Bill Maher's take on fat shaming and James Corden's response to it. Both are on you tube. Weirdly enough I kinda agree with them both.

 

[ameemlutfi]

Colorism maybe. Racism no. For that you have to be from different races .

 

[Sidilicious]

I think you missed the 'Lol' at the end of my post. I am all for lecturing fat people into eating and living healthy as a long it doesn't become bullying. I am a bit of a fitness freak myself and know what happens when you don't check on your calorie intake.

On this note, you might wanna check out Bill Maher's take on fat shaming and James Corden's response to it. Both are on you tube. Weirdly enough I kinda agree with them both.

Will take a look. Though I generally dislike James Corden.

And agreed on bullying. Any form of it is also despicable.

 

[SaadAliG]

Well, it's not racism. Go educate yourself on racism, the word has been thrown around a lot these days without idiots knowing what it is.

What Shaheen did is a form of shadeism which is sadly prevalent in our society.

 

[MenInG]

Well, it's not racism. Go educate yourself on racism, the word has been thrown around a lot these days without idiots knowing what it is.

What Shaheen did is a form of shadeism which is sadly prevalent in our society.

You are making it sound like its a good thing.

Agreed that Shaheen is not making a comment about his race but about his colour but to be honest - all this is bad.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5302019/shadeism-colourism-racism-canada/

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Eh, asking to out light on somebody doesn't mean racism. It's a fact that darker people reflect less light, so it can be heard to see their face in very dark environment. As long as it's not personal or a generalized statement for dark skinned people, I don't see any issue.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

You are making it sound like its a good thing.

Agreed that Shaheen is not making a comment about his race but about his colour but to be honest - all this is bad.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5302019/shadeism-colourism-racism-canada/

Still nowhere as bad as racism though. This kind of classification will always exist in a racially homogenous country like Pakistan. Racism happened in heterogenous societies where minorities were considered and treated as sub humans. They were murdered, denied civil rights such as voting, and made slaves. Shadeism is awful but in a country like Pakistan, it's not much different than mocking short or fat people.

 

[ZaudStorm]

Ain't surprised one bit with his comments and his defenders here...

 

[MenInG]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">16th December - journalist says it was ok, it was just that Shaheen Shah Afridi couldn't see him in the press conference as he was looking the other way<br><br>20th December - the same journalist says that Shaheen Shah Afridi was being racist by saying that he couldn't see him<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAKvSL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAKvSL</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1208308241077329920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 21, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hyperion66]

Ain't surprised one bit with his comments and his defenders here...

Imagine how much morally bankrupt and incredibly vile one must be to defend stuff like this video!!

 

[MenInG]

Imagine how much morally bankrupt and incredibly vile one must be to defend stuff like this video!!

"Fair and Lovely" is a best selling product in India so I suppose this is a huge issue in the sub-continent.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Usually in a society where a dark skinned person is sarcastically called butt sahib , its not that big an issue but definitely its a big issue in civilized societies.

Should someone sur fair and lovely company?

 

[Globama]

Do Pakistani players not get any sort of grooming or advice whatsoever regarding how to behave in the media? Do they not realise what it means to represent your country? First the ex-captain in SA and now a young bowler. Seems like this racism manifests within all members of the team.

 

[MenInG]

Do Pakistani players not get any sort of grooming or advice whatsoever regarding how to behave in the media? Do they not realise what it means to represent your country? First the ex-captain in SA and now a young bowler. Seems like this racism manifests within all members of the team.

Do you understand the term "generalization" ?

Think a little education needed everywhere.

 

[Globama]

Think a little education needed everywhere.

Think a little education needed everywhere in Pakistan*

 

[MRSN]

if Sarfraz issue was dealt more seriously by PCB we wouldn't have seen such remarks from junior. When your seniors esp captain gets away with captaincy and is backed by your board then juniors will not learn anything.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Think a little education needed everywhere in Pakistan*

Then what's needed in India?

 

[MenInG]

Think a little education needed everywhere in Pakistan*

Fair and Lovely. Think about it.

 

[Badsha]

Colorism maybe. Racism no. For that you have to be from different races .

Well they are but yeah.

 

[Khan12]

Coming to the topic people need to know the background of the story.

 

[Sherlock]

Okay, I've waited until I've digested what happened. I don't think it was racism at all.

If I'm not mistaken the journo asked Shaheen if he could see him and Shaheen responded by saying something like - I would if your were in the light.

We know how racism is prevalent in Asia but I feel the journo was making too much of this and is looking for some air time via our esteemed media.

 

[iPakistani]

Just because it's 'common' in your society does NOT make it alright.

 

[MRSN]

Just because it's 'common' in your society does NOT make it alright.

it was the same excuse used to defend Sarfraz.

 

[khan_aa]

I may be anything but a hypocrite. We have similar social ills but our top celebs and media in general are more aware of global sensitiveities and usually don't make jokes with racist undertones. I remember sometimes back in a comedy show some skin color jokes were made and there was huge uproar and backlash against that on media.

your media, bollywood, cricketers etc ARE NOT representative of your country which has more differences among each other than any people on this planet.

caste system, thousands of languages are the backbone of this.

 

[Indiafan]

your media, bollywood, cricketers etc ARE NOT representative of your country which has more differences among each other than any people on this planet.

caste system, thousands of languages are the backbone of this.

No but they are definitely role models which influence the future generations. Do you deny cricketers are role models for youngsters?

 

[Abdul]

Can't say the "journalist" didn't deserve this for the Dickwella episode. I would usually be against what Shaheen said but this time I'm with him.

 

[DeadBall]

What do you mean
Does nobody like the journo

It means that all the other journos also laughed loudly at the dig and thus are also racists/colorists/shadists etc if not more.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Really dumbfounded by some of the comments from the posters here. Racism and bigotry has no place in this earth period.

Listen to first some seconds of the 2nd video and you will know why Shaheen said it. Or else read post number 80.

Its a non issue.

 

[Dios]

Ain't surprised one bit with his comments and his defenders here...

Wow this is shocking stuff. At least with the earlier video (the interview one) it was a generic Bangladeshi player even though it was obvious who they were mocking. This is directly targeting and humiliating an actual woman and referring to her by name in 2019 in a mainstream channel. What a bunch of lowlifes the people that participated in this skit are and everyone sitting in the audience as well. And the fact that this type of content is on mainstream Pakistani media tells a lot about Pakistani society.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Wow this is shocking stuff. At least with the earlier video (the interview one) it was a generic Bangladeshi player even though it was obvious who they were mocking. This is directly targeting and humiliating an actual woman and referring to her by name in 2019 in a mainstream channel. What a bunch of lowlifes the people that participated in this skit are and everyone sitting in the audience as well. And the fact that this type of content is on mainstream Pakistani media tells a lot about Pakistani society.

2015 not 2019.

Also, this tv show has these kind of skits for every type of person. Politicians, Pakistani cricketers, Hollywood actors etc.
Stop getting offended over everything.

Examples:

https://youtu.be/PRpl1O-wAxI

https://youtu.be/rNVAxoan0pM

And this one specifically after we lost to WI in 2014:


https://youtu.be/43IozRLkoU4

 

[MenInG]

Wow this is shocking stuff. At least with the earlier video (the interview one) it was a generic Bangladeshi player even though it was obvious who they were mocking. This is directly targeting and humiliating an actual woman and referring to her by name in 2019 in a mainstream channel. What a bunch of lowlifes the people that participated in this skit are and everyone sitting in the audience as well. And the fact that this type of content is on mainstream Pakistani media tells a lot about Pakistani society.

It tells you nothing about Pakistani society - if its what you wish to believe then nothing can stop you but dont generalize - we dont like that.

 

[Hyperion66]

"Fair and Lovely" is a best selling product in India so I suppose this is a huge issue in the sub-continent.

How many times do I have to explain my position on fairness cream ads? When did I say this is Pak only issue? All I am saying is Pak mainstreamed it and don't even recognize it as a problem.

 

[MenInG]

Think people have made their points on the TV show thing.

The topic of this thread is about Shaheen Shah Afridi.

 

[Green Patriot]

I dont think this is a racist comment.
There is no excuse for racist digs,common or not.

But here the journalist clearly said in a joking manner : "Idhar ho apk samny,nazar araha ho apko?' and Shaheen replied with ' Thora light mai ajai to nazar aingy'. And everyone laughed at both the journalist's question and Shaheen's answer.

 

[barah_admi]

Man your players are paindu AF, I know they may be genuinely good blokes at heart but they desperately need some basic training on how to handle media and conduct themselves in public, this pind mentality is destroying Pak cricket.

"Your players"?

Have you forgotten what the likes of Pandya were up to and probably still are and the comments them and many like them have made?

 

[BDfanforever]

2015 not 2019.

Also, this tv show has these kind of skits for every type of person. Politicians, Pakistani cricketers, Hollywood actors etc.
Stop getting offended over everything.

Examples:

https://youtu.be/PRpl1O-wAxI

https://youtu.be/rNVAxoan0pM

And this one specifically after we lost to WI in 2014:


https://youtu.be/43IozRLkoU4

It's all good, hope they made one where Mashrafe and Sarfraz Ahmed are also represented. Would be curious to see how that pans out.

 

[MenInG]

Think people have made their points on the TV show thing.

The topic of this thread is about Shaheen Shah Afridi.

Reminder.

 

[Ronaldo7]

It's all good, hope they made one where Mashrafe and Sarfraz Ahmed are also represented. Would be curious to see how that pans out.

The show ended in 2015 lol

 

[Hyperion66]

"Your players"?

Have you forgotten what the likes of Pandya were up to and probably still are and the comments them and many like them have made?

Pandya was punished by BCCI, chastised by common public and made to apologize to the whole nation. Goes to show that we as a nation actively discourage such behavior. What PCB is gonna do about Afridi?

Please do read my other posts as I have repeatedly explained my position on the matter like half a dozen times already.

 

[barah_admi]

Pandya was punished by BCCI, chastised by common public and made to apologize to the whole nation. Goes to show that we as a nation actively discourage such behavior. What PCB is gonna do about Afridi?

Please do read my other posts as I have repeatedly explained my position on the matter like half a dozen times already.

Punishments do not change the behaviour. Can you tell me where you know Pandy has changed his lifestyle and no longer goes to his clubs with his family ?

Afridi is 19/20 and made a comment which may have been about bad light, as that was a topic before this (from what I could hear in the video). If the joke can be proven to be racist, I'll say he should be punished as is required, but it is remarkable for an Indian, a country in which untouchable exist, to speak about morality of Pakistani players and to say "your players".

 

[Waleed93]

When Kohli starts using abusive words, people start making a mountain out of a molehill, some even call for him being dropped.

Here, we have players like Shaheen and Sarfraz literally abusing people racially and some people are fine with it.

It doesn't matter if he is 19 or 39, he should be mature enough and face the consequences for such poor behaviour. An apology is the least he can do here, and it's irrelevant if people in Pakistan don't care about racist remarks. He is representing Pakistan, and should think before saying such crap.

The lack of basic education is shocking when it comes to our players.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Please relax he's not a racist.

He's just a genuinely a Paendooo, like Afridi. or Akhtar. There is no hate in his comment just a typical innocent sharart which is not politically correct as per western standards

 

[Ronaldo7]

Please relax he's not a racist.

He's just a genuinely a Paendooo, like Afridi. or Akhtar. There is no hate in his comment just a typical innocent sharart which is not politically correct as per western standards

It's not even about whether he's a paindu or not.

The reporter himself asked if Shaheen could see him or not to which Shaheen replied with what he said.

 

[mahmed]

Really dumbfounded by some of the comments from the posters here. Racism and bigotry has no place in this earth period.

What I understood the comment of an journalist was a sarcastic and the reply from Shaheen was an appropriate. I dont see any racism involved here.

 

[KhanNn]

The obsession Pakistani and Indian people have is due to colonialism as the English were seen as the elite and everyone wanted to be like them....literally. Before the English came the natural skin colour was seen as beautiful.

Furthermore, it doesn't seem like the media have any morals as they're openly making fun of other people.

Lastly, the news reporter used the word ne gro/ nigr which is a very offensive term, Shaheen make an innocent joke, with no malice at all

 

[moghul]

Just because it's 'common' in your society does NOT make it alright.

Absolutely, it was wrong on Afridi's part although sadly this practice is common in Pakistan. Not every player should be allowed to talk to media, particularly not like Shaheen.

 

[khan_aa]

No but they are definitely role models which influence the future generations. Do you deny cricketers are role models for youngsters?

they can be, but it would be stupid for anyone to base their life after looking at kohli and shaheen afridu

 

[MenInG]

Shaheen Shah Afridi with Pak Army

 

[Nadeem98]

The journalist said in the interview "I look like a *****" . He uses the word "*****". Is he also being racist to black people now?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

IMO it's totally pointless to argue if he was wrong (or not), how dare he, he should apologise (or not), etc. These are well meaning but beside the point.

The main point is:

1. Is the Pakistani support system educating him on the near blunder he made (or could have made)- EVEN if he is innocent this time?
2. Are they coaching him on dos and don'ts so this does not become a repeat thing - EVEN if he is innocent this times?
3. Has he learnt from it not to even go near such subjects in the future at the risk of being misinterpreted - EVEN if he is innocent this time?

If the answer is yes to all, move on. If no, then we will likely have a problem in the future.

He's young and learning. God knows that in the sub-continent we don't have any idea of racial and religious sensibilities. I mean forget teens, I've seen grown educated men casually use the N word in India. It's not only racism. These guys Just. Don't. Know.

So don't condemn him in what he may or may not have done, condemn him and the system if it happens again, because that will mean neither he nor (which is worse) the system has learnt anything.

 

[Usman]

Man your players are paindu AF, I know they may be genuinely good blokes at heart but they desperately need some basic training on how to handle media and conduct themselves in public, this pind mentality is destroying Pak cricket.

Disturbing comment. Very crass and in such poor taste. Amazing how the room erupts in laughter and is seemingly okay with the comment.

Poor behaviour.
How are people okay with this, regardless of whether he really couldn't see the journo, or wanted to comment on his skin tone, rhe natural laughter in the room is as disturbing ad the comment itself.

Wow terrible ,try making fun of a pathan and then you will see his anger, also you could see his smirk..

Also the reporter has an issue with it, its not like there is just hue and cry from others, the gug affected has an issue.

Firstly can I just say that I do not condone the casual racism displayed by Shaheen here.

However, for Indian posters to portray this as a Pakistani-only problem without a hint of irony is, frankly, ridiculous.

India is the nation where fair skin is revered. Bollywood superstars are almost always of fair skin and, in fact, some of them are actually westerners without even a basic grasp of Hindi. White skin is an obsession of Indians, in a way not even remotely matched by any other nation in the world. Skin lightening creams are still a huge market in India. All of this stems from a racist belief embedded in Indian society, that fair skin is better than dark skin.

By all means, call Shaheen out for his casual racism. But at the same time acknowledge that the casual racism stems from an embedded cultural belief in Pakistan and especially in India, that white skin is better than black skin.

 

[shane]

I think it would be a good idea for every new player that comes into the Pakistan team to go through basic social training. While comments like that may be acceptable (and probably considered funny) in the backwards, uneducated villages they come from, they just have no place in sport.

 

[MenInG]

Not sure if you all have seen the video but when Shaheen said the light remark, many people in that room laughed.

 

[JaDed]

Firstly can I just say that I do not condone the casual racism displayed by Shaheen here.

However, for Indian posters to portray this as a Pakistani-only problem without a hint of irony is, frankly, ridiculous.

India is the nation where fair skin is revered. Bollywood superstars are almost always of fair skin and, in fact, some of them are actually westerners without even a basic grasp of Hindi. White skin is an obsession of Indians, in a way not even remotely matched by any other nation in the world. Skin lightening creams are still a huge market in India. All of this stems from a racist belief embedded in Indian society, that fair skin is better than dark skin.

By all means, call Shaheen out for his casual racism. But at the same time acknowledge that the casual racism stems from an embedded cultural belief in Pakistan and especially in India, that white skin is better than black skin.

In India it has become a major issue if you were google it, there was a massive hue and cry against fair and lovely by Kangana Ranaut and media, look at how fair and lovely was demonized with so much negative publicity that they had readvertise the whole product with diff lines similar to all such "fair" products, just google it.

And there were many articles in India about how its an issue in India and asking celebs and corporations to do more to counter it.

The thing here is no Indian cricketer would ever indulge in something like that , reason being we have players that are dark skinned so maybe more acceptance and the newer generation is taking on it.

 

[Saj]

Not sure if you all have seen the video but when Shaheen said the light remark, many people in that room laughed.

Not sure what to make of that.

Were those people being racist or just laughing at Shaheen for a comment regarding the fact that he was confused as to who asked the question.

 

[Savak]

The journalist clearly has a chip on his shoulders. If you are a kaala by fact then you should accept being called kaala

 

[ManFan]

People losing their minds proving how naive they really are.

PC chumps.

 

[waleed88]

OK so the journalist in question is Asghar Ali Mubarak, the same one with the Dickwella/de Silva gaffe a few days ago.

Digging a little deeper, it seems like he took it as a joke initially (see him laughing about it in the following video which is from 16th Dec) but suddenly after Shaheen took a 5fer today, he has decided it was a racist comment and wants an apology... A strange turn of events.

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If he was offended by that then Shaheen should apologize even though if he didn't mean it as racist, people were laughing at that time, and if he felt bad he isn't gonna say it out loud.

Shaheen needs to be keep himself on leash, he has his viral video online of doing stuff and now this... Don't want him going to Shehzad's Hasan Ali's and Shadabs route

 

[JaDed]

Bump.. hopefully posters are on same page with Sammy issue and this one.