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[VIDEO] Disgraceful [alleged] Spot-Fixing by some top names of England cricket?

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Copying my post from another thread. Can’t believe this has completely gone under the radar and it sickens me to the core.

Was watching this video recently. According to Al Jazeera, there was a 10 over session on the first day of this Test which was fixed by 2-3 Englishmen. Though Al Jazeera has not taken these names for legal reasons, they have left enough clues for us to decipher in the ballpark who it might be. Here is a link to the test scorecard:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...ngland-5th-test-england-tour-of-india-2016-17

Here are the scores at the end of the first day’s play:

Cook 10 (38)
Jennings 1 (17)
Root 88 (144)
Moeen 120 (222)
Bairstow 49 (90)
Stokes 5 (29)

We know 2-3 Englishmen were involved (at least). We know the fixing happened on Day 1, and we know according to the audio available that the fixing happens “after [censored] number of overs” as the bookie tells Al Jazeera’s undercover reporter to wait for his call. That is to say, we can eliminate the first few overs of the day, and also assume that bookies will not bet on batsmen underscoring against the new ball in case they might get out.

10 overs session implies at least 30 balls were faced by one of the partners in the partnership, indicating the most likely fixers here are one, some, or all of Root, Moeen, and Bairstow. They were the only batsmen who were playing long enough to have an impact over 10 overs.

These men seem to be match fixers with evidence from a more credible news source than News of the World. Al Jazeera claims to have handed this information over to the ICC. Why are the likes of Bairstow being protected by the ICC anti corruption unit? Why are only the Pakistanis, Indians, and Sri Lankans forced to take the fall? Why was this team allowed to become the glorified winners of the 2019 World Cup?

Why has this case completely descended into the unknown, forgotten as if it never happened?

I repeat my allegation that, 3 of the 5 names between Cook, Root, Moeen, Bairstow, and Stokes are filthy spot-fixers.

Here is a link to the original investigation:


The question is, where is the ICC?
 
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Cook, Root, Stokes, Jennings, Moeen Ali, and Bairstow must all be interrogated and held accountable if guilty in the same way many subcontinental cricketers have been disgraced in the past.

One of the most credible news sources in the world indicates 3 of these men (allegedly) are fixers (and further, have passed the exact names on to the ICC) and 4 years later they are all world cup winners, IPL millionaires, and the heroes to young girls and boys worldwide. They kneel for Black Lives Matter and they wear their heart on their sleeve when they play cricket as if they are the most clutch team of this generation - indeed, they probably are. But they do not deserve our respect.

Meanwhile, Butt, Asif, and Amir are disgraced and left in the mud within days of the News of the World scandal. Why the double standard?

When will Poms and Aussies be held to account for the disrepute they bring to the game?
 
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Not just England. According to Al Jazeera, this match was also fixed by the Australian Cricket team:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...india-vs-australia-3rd-test-ind-v-aus-2016-17

Batsmen were paid to underperform over a specific session of the first innings.

I am very interested to know who, between Renshaw, Warner, Steve Smith, Handscomb, and Glenn Maxwell, were the dirty cheaters whose names Al Jazeera provided to the ICC but ICC failed to take action on.
 
Not just England. According to Al Jazeera, this match was also fixed by the Australian Cricket team:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...india-vs-australia-3rd-test-ind-v-aus-2016-17

Batsmen were paid to underperform over a specific session of the first innings.

I am very interested to know who, between Renshaw, Warner, Steve Smith, Handscomb, and Glenn Maxwell, were the dirty cheaters whose names Al Jazeera provided to the ICC but ICC failed to take action on.

2 of these names were involved. Munawar, the fixer, takes the names explicitly but is censored - for the first name, though, it almost definitely sounds like he is saying the name “Steve Smith”.

There is a followup video as well, going into more detail:


Names also mentioned in this video, who Munawar has interacted with, are Umar Akmal, Virat Kohli, and Rohit Sharma, and a spotlight shone on Pakistan, England, and Australia matches during the 2011-2012 time period.
 
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My understanding is that Al Jazeera haven't actually released any evidence of fixing to the ICC let alone in public. In contrasts the news of the world published pretty conclusive evidence publicly.
 
My understanding is that Al Jazeera haven't actually released any evidence of fixing to the ICC let alone in public. In contrasts the news of the world published pretty conclusive evidence publicly.

They have released evidence to ICC as well as to Interpol. The reporter from Al Jazeera in one of the conversations receives information indicating that some cricket council members are also in bookies’ pockets.
 
They have released evidence to ICC as well as to Interpol. The reporter from Al Jazeera in one of the conversations receives information indicating that some cricket council members are also in bookies’ pockets.

Adding onto this, ICC has publicly acknowledged Munawar as a suspected fixer, which further corroborates the validity of Al Jazeera’s reports (as if they were not already credible enough). Any action, however, has yet to be taken.
 
Al Jazeera are a joke. LOL at them being a credible news source, they are renowned for conspiracy theories. NOTW had damning evidence against the Pak players.

If a player does wrong, they are punished. Regardless of the team they play for.
 
Theres a lot of sensationalism in these al jazeera investigations, nothing concrete i am afraid, our players were dumb enough to implicate themselves.
 
They have released evidence to ICC as well as to Interpol. The reporter from Al Jazeera in one of the conversations receives information indicating that some cricket council members are also in bookies’ pockets.

Al Jazeera: “We are aware that our lack of confidence in the ICC is shared by many others who have the interests of the international game at heart and who feel that it may lack the will, resources and even remit to tackle a problem that involves powerful forces from within the world of organised crime. It is for this reason that we are in discussions with Interpol about handing over the evidence to them. We are not ruling out handling over material to the ICC — but feel that it must first accept some accountability and answer the legitimate questions raised by our investigation.”

They didn't give any evidence to the ICC, they instead essentially demanded an interview with the ICC first. It raises the question of why, if they have any kind of solid evidence, haven't they made any of it public as NOTW did?
 
Why is there an inferiority complex where whenever there is an allegation against a Pakistani it is correct but when allegations are made against Englishmen or Aussies it cannot possibly be true? Al Jazeera is possibly one of the most credible outlets in the world and it should be treated as such. There are damning pictures and videos collected of various cricketers and you would have to call Al Jazeera liars if they’re saying they had an agent get fixing calls which turned out to be true.

So, is Al Jazeera lying? Or are the players lying? I know who I trust. And I know who the ICC should trust too.
 
Al Jazeera: “We are aware that our lack of confidence in the ICC is shared by many others who have the interests of the international game at heart and who feel that it may lack the will, resources and even remit to tackle a problem that involves powerful forces from within the world of organised crime. It is for this reason that we are in discussions with Interpol about handing over the evidence to them. We are not ruling out handling over material to the ICC — but feel that it must first accept some accountability and answer the legitimate questions raised by our investigation.”

They didn't give any evidence to the ICC, they instead essentially demanded an interview with the ICC first. It raises the question of why, if they have any kind of solid evidence, haven't they made any of it public as NOTW did?

They’ve released some evidence and withheld some. There are legal considerations which NOTW did not take into account. Al Jazeera’s evidence also relies on Munawar claiming certain things, whereas Butt and co essentially gave it away themselves after being caught in pictures with Mazhar etc. I’m not too sure on the current status of Al Jazeera’s team but surely you can’t dismiss their claims?

I would definitely love to know where this case has proceeded but it seems it’s been buried under the rug. But it’s extremely shocking that Al Jazeera is being discredited on this thread.
 
Why is there an inferiority complex where whenever there is an allegation against a Pakistani it is correct but when allegations are made against Englishmen or Aussies it cannot possibly be true? Al Jazeera is possibly one of the most credible outlets in the world and it should be treated as such. There are damning pictures and videos collected of various cricketers and you would have to call Al Jazeera liars if they’re saying they had an agent get fixing calls which turned out to be true.

So, is Al Jazeera lying? Or are the players lying? I know who I trust. And I know who the ICC should trust too.

Damning pictures...? They're pictures taken in public places with a bloke in the background not even being acknowledged by the players in question...

Making allegations without providing any public evidence and refusing to provide evidence to the responsible governing body isn't a sign of credibility.
 
There are legal considerations which NOTW did not take into account. Al Jazeera’s evidence also relies on Munawar claiming certain things,

So their evidence is the bloke that they showed a suitcase full of cash to and told him it was all his if he said something, said something? That sounds like a reliable source...

The majority of the documentary is Munawar making claims based on already completed matches. When the journalists think they're getting close to actually getting information in advance of a match (in the BBL) there's a convenient hiccup and Munawar can't get them the information because 'the players are being greedy and asking for too much money'... That is not evidence.
 
Damning pictures...? They're pictures taken in public places with a bloke in the background not even being acknowledged by the players in question...

Making allegations without providing any public evidence and refusing to provide evidence to the responsible governing body isn't a sign of credibility.

Al Jazeera is an entity. The entity is credible. Similarly if BBC claims tomorrow that an investigative reporter has found ties between Boris Johnson and local gangsters, the entity is to be believed as it is self-respecting and does not make tabloid claims to drum up sensationalism.

Al Jazeera has damning video footage of ex-Pakistan, Indian and Sri Lankan cricketers already from this investigation, so you’re saying that 30% of the video is true but the remaining 70% is not?

They have video footage of a known match fixer giving details about various matches, which they then cross checked and found to be true. Al Jazeera has put this down on their own personal credibility as an entity that they know this for a fact. So you’re saying they’re lying?

Lastly, it is untrue that they have provided zilch to the ICC.

the broadcaster "is in discussions with Interpol about its findings," according to the BBC. Harrison confirmed Al Jazeera was "in talks with Interpol to hand [its findings] over to them." He said, "The ICC and the cricket boards have the names of these players, they have all the details and are aware of all of this. This is massive, compelling evidence. The ICC say, 'Let's have more'.

They have provided the names of players, the audio recordings, the specific dates and matches and sessions, and so on.
 
So their evidence is the bloke that they showed a suitcase full of cash to and told him it was all his if he said something, said something? That sounds like a reliable source...

The majority of the documentary is Munawar making claims based on already completed matches. When the journalists think they're getting close to actually getting information in advance of a match (in the BBL) there's a convenient hiccup and Munawar can't get them the information because 'the players are being greedy and asking for too much money'... That is not evidence.

What are you talking about? Rewatch the documentary. Munawar makes all of the claims in all of the matches before the matches take place.

He calls the reporter on the morning of the match, tells them what will happen and when, and then the reporter sees it unfold before their own eyes.
 
I refer the honourable gentleman to the Australian innings against Zimbabwe at the 2011 World Cup.
 
ICC has rarely done much after any allegation and I am not sure what are the achievements of their anti corruption unit. Most of the players who get banned are ether done by "Some" boards and ICC tries to show that they were very involved and when some news agencies carry out sting operations.

Cricket is an international sport with one of the highest betting volumes and its played by a close group of handful countries while being controlled by ICC which is not the most professional sporting body in the world. The probability of this whole structure being clean and clear are pretty low however, as fans the only thing we can do is to accept the things on the face value even though sometimes things take hilarious turns which raises the doubts but you have to ignore that voice I guess to keep on enjoying the sport.

Its naturally difficult to accept the dark sides of the things you like and it has been pretty clear based upon my experience with few threads that other people also dont want to even talk about these things as it can distort the reality of the sport which the love which is understandable well. I am an open minded person so I do drift towards sometimes questioning certain things but, then I guess there is no point of overthinking anything.
 
ICC has rarely done much after any allegation and I am not sure what are the achievements of their anti corruption unit. Most of the players who get banned are ether done by "Some" boards and ICC tries to show that they were very involved and when some news agencies carry out sting operations.

Cricket is an international sport with one of the highest betting volumes and its played by a close group of handful countries while being controlled by ICC which is not the most professional sporting body in the world. The probability of this whole structure being clean and clear are pretty low however, as fans the only thing we can do is to accept the things on the face value even though sometimes things take hilarious turns which raises the doubts but you have to ignore that voice I guess to keep on enjoying the sport.

Its naturally difficult to accept the dark sides of the things you like and it has been pretty clear based upon my experience with few threads that other people also dont want to even talk about these things as it can distort the reality of the sport which the love which is understandable well. I am an open minded person so I do drift towards sometimes questioning certain things but, then I guess there is no point of overthinking anything.

I do agree with the sentiment, don’t we all wish deep down that the sport is clean? It helps us continue loving the sport, and even on a personal level for me I know I must be forced to separate my love for Amir, Asif, and Wasim Akram from the harm they have brought to their team.

But why must Pakistani supporters bear the brunt of this paradox of emotions? Some of the biggest names in cricket right now, between England’s world cup winners and no less than Steve Smith, have their names caught up in some very serious allegations. Why is it so easy for them to walk away, as our fans worship them while spitting on the likes of Salman Butt? Why does the ICC protect national team captains but not the likes of a barely legal Pakistani fast bowler?

I hate the double standard - fine, continue to appreciate Smith the way Pakistanis appreciate Akram. But at least do the proper investigation and make the facts available for the public.

After that, like you said, some people will talk about it and some people don’t like to - I myself dislike speaking about Wasim Akram. But the double standard, in my mind, reeks of bias that favors the cheating Aussies and sellout English cricketers while the impoverished and uneducated players brought up in the subcontinent, and with much more of a predisposition to the kind of money offered, are thrown under the bus.
 
I can feel your frustration. However ICC needs very concrete evidence to take action.
If I remember correctly even in the Oval trio episode there were a few other players who seemed suspicious, especially one who had a jacket full of cash but they were let go as there was a lack of substantial evidence to begin with.
 
Good topic. Its interesting how some posters automatically just say aljazeera is not credible. They are! otherwise they would be in dock for defamation or other legal proceedings. As a journalist working for a major news outlet you dont go around making accusations without hard eveidence. Aljazeera have made some pretty hard hitting investigative documentaries and have revealed alot about alot. e.g. the Israeli plot to discredit Corbyn (and we all know how that turned out), also their investigation into illegal practicies with regards to EU visas in cyprus to name but a few. There was a reason Bush bimbed their office in kabul!!
 
I can feel your frustration. However ICC needs very concrete evidence to take action.
If I remember correctly even in the Oval trio episode there were a few other players who seemed suspicious, especially one who had a jacket full of cash but they were let go as there was a lack of substantial evidence to begin with.
Lords* not Oval.
 
Oh, how silly!

Standard first-day test match scoring.
 
I have edited posts to ensure that we are clear that these are ALLEGATIONS
 
Not concrete evidence.

Al Jazeera claims to have given evidence but we have no idea about their credibility or the strength of the supposed evidence.
 
This is the Al Jazeera video that came out 2 years or so ago. I think the OP has come across it for the first time.

It was junk then, and it's even more junk now. If they had something robust up their sleeve, they would have and should have revealed it to the relevant authorities at the time. They didn't, and settled for their true ulterior motive of desi TRPs instead. "Manda"
 
If they had something concrete the ICC would have acted. Pakistan fans just like thinking the world is against them.
 
Good topic. Its interesting how some posters automatically just say aljazeera is not credible. They are! otherwise they would be in dock for defamation or other legal proceedings. As a journalist working for a major news outlet you dont go around making accusations without hard eveidence. Aljazeera have made some pretty hard hitting investigative documentaries and have revealed alot about alot. e.g. the Israeli plot to discredit Corbyn (and we all know how that turned out), also their investigation into illegal practicies with regards to EU visas in cyprus to name but a few. There was a reason Bush bimbed their office in kabul!!

Exactly, very difficult to believe it’s just conveniently ignored like this.The entire topic has essentially been forgotten since it was broken in 2018, with ICC and everyone else burying their heads in the sand.
 
I'm pretty sure ICC were very quick to throw out these allegations.
 
Not concrete evidence.

Al Jazeera claims to have given evidence but we have no idea about their credibility or the strength of the supposed evidence.

We have a lot of idea about their credibility. No self respecting news outlet puts their name on the line like this otherwise.

Regarding evidence, are you saying it’s not strong enough for you to believe based on what you’ve seen? Or not strong enough for Al Jazeera to come to conclusions? Because Al Jazeera’s investigator has said word to word that over multiple incidents he was told what would happen in advance over a 10 over session, with the 10th over going for two runs or less as per plan, and Al Jazeera witnessed it to be true.

The allegations are very clear and if you trust the most respectable news outlet in the world, you trust the allegations.
 
If they wanted to be taken seriously they should name and shame the players and the matches they were involved in , if they actually were .....

That will force the ICC to investigate , otherwise nothing will happen
 
I'm pretty sure ICC were very quick to throw out these allegations.
So why didn't Al Jazeera publish them on their own? They gave ICC chance. Now its been 2 years
 
We have a lot of idea about their credibility. No self respecting news outlet puts their name on the line like this otherwise.

Regarding evidence, are you saying it’s not strong enough for you to believe based on what you’ve seen? Or not strong enough for Al Jazeera to come to conclusions? Because Al Jazeera’s investigator has said word to word that over multiple incidents he was told what would happen in advance over a 10 over session, with the 10th over going for two runs or less as per plan, and Al Jazeera witnessed it to be true.

The allegations are very clear and if you trust the most respectable news outlet in the world, you trust the allegations.

Al Jazeera is by no means they most respectable news outlet in the world.’
 
Al Jazeera is by no means they most respectable news outlet in the world.’

Okay, second most, third most, so on. It’s right up there in credibility and they are sticking their necks out making very, very serious allegations that they would NOT if they did not have faith in their own credibility.

It seems this discussion has turned from an examination into the credibility of Aussie and British players, into the credibility of the people who did the investigation! This is the protective bias - if it were 3 or 4 Pakistani names involved no one would hesitate to accept it as reality.

Especially the ICC.
 
Okay, second most, third most, so on. It’s right up there in credibility and they are sticking their necks out making very, very serious allegations that they would NOT if they did not have faith in their own credibility.

It seems this discussion has turned from an examination into the credibility of Aussie and British players, into the credibility of the people who did the investigation! This is the protective bias - if it were 3 or 4 Pakistani names involved no one would hesitate to accept it as reality.

Especially the ICC.

Clearly neither ECB nor ICC find this story credible.
 
Isnt this a 2 year old story? Al-Jazeera has had more than enough time to bring evidence out in the open if they had one to begin with. Simply taking the word of a known match-fixer (who could very well be a plant) without actual financial transaction trail or other evidence is dangerous & stupid. There is no dearth of conspiracy theorists in this world.
 
Or perhaps hesitancy to take action? No public pressure, why uproot the top players in their cricketing structures?

If a story is credible then the cricket boards respond. See the dropping and fining of Stokes for fighting, the dropping and banning of Hales for recreational drug use, the banning of Smith and Warner for ball tampering.

This story seems to be a confection of... nothing. Just innuendo.
 
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] Al Jazeera's latest statement was still that they had not given the ICC evidence. They originally claimed to but later backtracked and essentially said they'd only hand over their information if the ICC answered their interview questions

The false claim on 23rd October 2018: Harrison confirmed Al Jazeera was "in talks with Interpol to hand [its findings] over to them." He said, "The ICC and the cricket boards have the names of these players, they have all the details and are aware of all of this. This is massive, compelling evidence.

The backtrack after all the boards denied recieving evidence on 27th October: "It is for this reason that we are in discussions with Interpol about handing over the evidence to them. We are not ruling out handling over material to the ICC — but feel that it must first accept some accountability and answer the legitimate questions raised by our investigation."
 
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Al Jazeera just wanted TRPs and clicks.

I wonder if they got even that.
 
[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] Al Jazeera's latest statement was still that they had not given the ICC evidence. They originally claimed to but later backtracked and essentially said they'd only hand over their information if the ICC answered their interview questions

The false claim on 23rd October 2018: Harrison confirmed Al Jazeera was "in talks with Interpol to hand [its findings] over to them." He said, "The ICC and the cricket boards have the names of these players, they have all the details and are aware of all of this. This is massive, compelling evidence.

The backtrack after all the boards denied recieving evidence on 27th October: "It is for this reason that we are in discussions with Interpol about handing over the evidence to them. We are not ruling out handling over material to the ICC — but feel that it must first accept some accountability and answer the legitimate questions raised by our investigation."

My bad in that case. I guess I’m just calling for this issue to be more thoroughly investigated - the entire thing is very fishy. I do trust Al Jazeera as one of the most credible outlets around and therefore I do want to know why there is a roadblock. Even if Al Jazeera hasn’t handed the evidence over, they have still put their credibility on the line by saying they know for a fact about the fixing. This might mean legal implications are at play. In addition, it seems the ball is currently in the ICC’s court where the ICC is taking a deflecting stance, refusing to answer questions from Al Jazeera about their failure to act on information that the ICC apparently knew about.

In other words, Al Jazeera seems to think ICC is complicit with the entire thing.

I don’t know whether that’s true or not, but I do know that the case has for some reason died. Al Jazeera also links D Company as the primary folks behind the fixing ring, and we know they are very powerful. Is it possible threats are at play? ICC in their pocket?

This has to be one of the biggest headlines ever in cricket yet it’s completely dissolved. That’s why I’m bringing it up 2 years on. Aren’t you curious?
 
Al Jazeera just wanted TRPs and clicks.

I wonder if they got even that.

I really highly doubt that. Also, this investigation has already pinned down international cricketers Hasan Raza, Jeevantha Kulatunga, and Dilhara Lokuhettige and domestic cricketer Robin Morris - they are all on video conspiring to fix. So the first Al Jazeera allegation is credible.

The second Al Jazeera allegation is regarding Sri Lankan pitch fixing. They pinned down Halambage Premasiri, Secretary of the Galle Cricket Association, and groundsman Tharanga Indika, both on incontrovertible video footage. Premasiri was shot dead along with his son just days after Al Jazeera’s investigation of him, and right after the second Test between Sri Lanka and Australia in Galle. Thus the second Al Jazeera allegation is also credible.

Yet the third allegation, it is a complete fabrication for clicks and attention? Where their undercover journalist was given a script on the morning of the match of how the match would play out with specific references to number of runs in specific time periods, and which specific overs would go for maidens, and it came true? I just find that highly doubtful and anyone who works or has worked in top media organizations know that any self respecting media outlet (which Al Jazeera is) simply does not make big allegations if they are not sure of the outcome.

What I believe is the likely scenario is that there is no way for the ICC to verify that Al Jazeera’s calls took place at a certain timestamp, and therefore are not accepting the recordings as evidence. This is why Al Jazeera has not turned them over, though I repeat they have still named the exact matches where the fixing took place, as well as which sides took part in the fixing. It seems to me that ICC does not want to uproot a large part of international cricket based on evidence that cannot be timestamped due to the nature of the evidence.

Therefore, Al Jazeera is willing to put its name on the line because they know the information is credible, but ICC’s anti-corruption unit is not motivated enough to pursue its own investigation, and thus dismisses the evidence on face value, as insufficient.

This is absolutely shambolic to me, and clearly there is more to the story but it has completely fizzled out. There needs to be more pressure from the public on both Al Jazeera and the ICC to pursue this case further, and instead it feels like these top stars are being protected rather than investigated.
 
Versova police arrested former Ranji player Robin Morris for allegedly running a betting racket on Indian Premier League (IPL) cricket matches.

Two other accused, Dhirendra Kulkarni and Rohit Babu Bhimanna, are also arrested in the case.

The police said they received information about a betting racket operating at Morris’s flat at Yari Road, Andheri (West), based on which they conducted a raid. The trio were allegedly found accepting bets for the match between Royal Challengers Bangalore (RCB) and Sunrisers Hyderabad (SRH). The police seized several mobile phones, two tablet gadgets, and cash worth Rs9,000 from the flat.

The trio were booked under sections 420 (cheating and dishonestly inducing delivery of property), 465 (punishment for forgery), 468 (forgery for purpose of cheating), 471 (using as genuine a forged), and 34 (common intention) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) and sections 4 and 5 (A) of the Gambling Act.

On Saturday, the metropolitan magistrate court in Andheri remanded them in police custody till Monday.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/mumb...g-in-mumbai/story-2PocbQA7SJh9kTENjAHPcI.html
 
ICC loves these media outlets doing their work to expose fixing. I'm sure they only act when there is concrete evidence otherwise be ready for lawsuites.
 
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