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England (387 & 192) defeat India (387 & 170) by 22 runs to take 2-1 lead in the 5-match Test series

DeadlyVenom said:
India can take a massive moral victory here.

They forced England to change their bazball style and change their pitches but still took them to tea on day 5.

So much guts and character shown across both sides with a special mention for Stokes and Jadeja efforts on the final day.

A great test match.
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Moral victory? England showed they were able to adapt their game to win in the circumstances of the game, as good sides do.
 
mominsaigol said:
I do have to admit one thing. @Ab Fan

Jadeja has been a superhero with the bat this series. I hate jadeja but he deserves credit.

He has Impressed and shut up many of his critics this season.
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RidiculousMan said:
He did the same in the 1st Test.
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Bumrah as a tail ender is like a proper tulla bro no sense of situations thats where naseem shah is so good at with his stubborn batting
 
There is no moral victory in this one. We were simply beaten when they stepped on the gas.

England went up a level when it mattered and we dropped one. We are clueless in red ball cricket
 
Well played Indian tail, Indian top order let them down especially Gill's stupidity....@Rajdeep feel for you my friend. But it's just a game
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Blaming Bumrah and Siraj for this loss is peak stupidity lol. What exactly were Gill, Pant, Nair, Jaiswal, Reddy, and Sundar doing? Vacationing? :inti
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Game got close very close, hence the situational blame lies on Bumrah. If India had lost by 70 runs no one would have blamed Bumrah for poor shot selection. Of course in overall context Indian batsmen failed to chase down a modest total.
 
Ahmed216 said:
India is the least talented cricketing nation in the world.
With everything possible at their disposal they dish out performances like these?
I mean they cheat as well
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Talent is not the issue, arrogance, haughtiness and choking on the big stage is. Also it was madness for them to let Kohli and Rohit go this soon, yes they had a bad tour of Australia but they could have turned it around in England where the flat low bounce pitches would have favoured them, they would not have done much worse than Nair or Reddy with the bat. Test Cricket is the premier format and you need experience in this format.
 
Savak said:
Talent is not the issue, arrogance, haughtiness and choking on the big stage is. Also it was madness for them to let Kohli and Rohit go this soon, yes they had a bad tour of Australia but they could have turned it around in England where the flat low bounce pitches would have favoured them, they would not have done much worse than Nair or Reddy with the bat. Test Cricket is the premier format and you need experience in this format.
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India won 60% of the sessions in this series. Lost key moments. Can happen with inexperienced team. 5 times they scored 350 plus in a row. This match was lost on those key moments. India got nervous late evening unncessarily and cost wickets with stupid shots. With KOhli and Rohit we would be staring at 0-3 loss. No thanks. Finally Indian batting has started clicking apart from this innings.
 
Savak said:
Talent is not the issue, arrogance, haughtiness and choking on the big stage is. Also it was madness for them to let Kohli and Rohit go this soon, yes they had a bad tour of Australia but they could have turned it around in England where the flat low bounce pitches would have favoured them, they would not have done much worse than Nair or Reddy with the bat. Test Cricket is the premier format and you need experience in this format.
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They retired?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India won 60% of the sessions in this series. Lost key moments. Can happen with inexperienced team. 5 times they scored 350 plus in a row. This match was lost on those key moments. India got nervous late evening unncessarily and cost wickets with stupid shots. With KOhli and Rohit we would be staring at 0-3 loss. No thanks. Finally Indian batting has started clicking apart from this innings.
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Let's be honest, if Gill, KL, Pant and Jadeja can score runs on these wickets, so could Rohit and Kohli.
 
mominsaigol said:
They retired?
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Yes, they were told clearly by the selectors to move on. Rohit was told he would not be picked for the English series. Kohli was told that the English tour would be his final chance and the BCCI were not interested in making him captain.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Bring in Bairstow for Pope, Bethell for Crawley, Wood and Atkinson for tired and exhausted Carse and woakes
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Bethell is a replacement for stokes not Crawley but stokes has performed with the ball and is captain.

And you are giving too much credit to Bairstow. He is washed up and he wasnt a good test cricketer anyway.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Bring in Bairstow for Pope, Bethell for Crawley, Wood and Atkinson for tired and exhausted Carse and woakes
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Bairstow😂 he's completely finished at test level next you will be saying bring back Ian Bell.

Think Pope will see the end of the series and they will decide then.

Haseeb Hameed deserves a chance he's had a brilliant season for Notts so far, he's a regular at my local mosque spoke to him a few times says he still has hope in regards to playing for England again
 
jnaveen1980 said:
No way. Kohli didn't even do that in his peak scoring two big centuries in on tests. why didn't Root score then?
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The wickets in this series is much easier than the ones he encountered in 2014, 2018 & 2021. He also would not have to contend with Anderson and Broad.
 
mominsaigol said:
Bethell is a replacement for stokes not Crawley but stokes has performed with the ball and is captain.

And you are giving too much credit to Bairstow. He is washed up and he wasnt a good test cricketer anyway.
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He recently scored two centuries, one in county and other in vitality blast...He is a good basher in Eng conditions
 
Savak said:
The wickets in this series is much easier than the ones he encountered in 2014, 2018 & 2021. He also would not have to contend with Anderson and Broad.
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Getting Kohli out doesn't need rocket science. Just throw it wide. He will edge it. He got out like 9 out of 10 tiems in Australia on all sorts of tracks. He occupied that key no.4 spot for far too long. Finally we got a replacement.
 
Savak said:
Yes, they were told clearly by the selectors to move on. Rohit was told he would not be picked for the English series. Kohli was told that the English tour would be his final chance and the BCCI were not interested in making him captain.
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In hindsight their inclusion may make sense but selectors didn't know pitches would be so flat. I mean pathetic test batsman Gill has already scored 600 runs in the series.

Kohli finished as as test cricketer 5 years and selectors expected another failed away tour.
Rohit actually never was a test player and batted like a tailender in Aus.
 
That was a devastating loss. :cry:

On the positive side, I did make a ton of money, so thank you Eng 👽
 
The Bald Eagle said:
He recently scored two centuries, one in county and other in vitality blast...He is a good basher in Eng conditions
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AlrightE but I feel England wont change anything. Crawley is defo going nowhere.

He is the shan masood of England. He is better then Shan obviously but he is a nepo baby who's being carried around with a gimmick in the same way shan was.

Shan: Hes educated, Comes from a good family, Takes the lead, plays aggressive cricket.

Crawley: Hes educated, Comes from a rich and good family, Takes the lead, plays aggressive cricket

Performance wise 🤡.

But tbf Crawley has performed better and played innings shan never will.
 
Ahmed216 said:
In hindsight their inclusion may make sense but selectors didn't know pitches would be so flat. I mean pathetic test batsman Gill has already scored 600 runs in the series.

Kohli finished as as test cricketer 5 years and selectors expected another failed away tour.
Rohit actually never was a test player and batted like a tailender in Aus.
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How much ROot score on the same match? You don't get shellacking with world no.1 and no.2 batsman in your side against a Bumrahless side.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
How much ROot score on the same match? You don't get shellacking with world no.1 and no.2 batsman in your side against a Bumrahless side.
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By your logic Root is less of a test player than Gill because he could not score in that same match
 

Stokes inspires England to defeat stubborn India​


Third Rothesay Test, Lord's (day five of five)

England 387 (Root 104, Carse 56, Smith 51; Bumrah 5-74) & 192 (Root 40; Sundar 4-22)

India 387 (Rahul 100, Pant 74, Jadeja 72; Woakes 3-84) & 170 (Jadeja 61*; Stokes 3-48, Archer 3-55)

England win by 22 runs and lead series 2-1

Scorecard

Ben Stokes once again inspired England to a 22-run win over a stubborn India on an unbearably tense final day of the third Test at Lord's.

The captain delivered a monumental shift with the ball to claim three wickets as India were bowled out for 170.

In an epic conclusion, the hosts had victory in their grasp until nerves were frayed by outstanding defiance from Ravindra Jadeja.

Chasing 193, India were 112-8 when Jadeja was joined by number 10 Jasprit Bumrah. They were together for almost 22 overs until Stokes, who bowled tirelessly from the Nursery End, drew Bumrah into a pull to mid-on. Bumrah's contribution to a stand of 35 was five from 54 balls.

Still Jadeja resisted, this time with last man Mohammed Siraj. Stokes refused to stop bowling. A delayed tea was taken with 30 required for India.

The injured Shoaib Bashir was summoned after the break, and incredibly got Siraj to defend the ball into the ground and back on to his stumps. Bashir, who has an injured finger on his non-bowling hand, set off on a delirious celebration, probably his last act of a series in which he is likely to be ruled out of the final two Tests. Jadeja was left stranded on 61 from 181 balls.

The drawn-out finale was a direct contrast to a pulsating morning, when Stokes and Jofra Archer broke open the India batting with some irresistible pace bowling.

Archer ripped Rishabh Pant's off stump out of the ground, Stokes had KL Rahul lbw on review for 39. Washington Sundar, who confidently told the media on Sunday night "India will win", was sensationally held by Archer's agile swoop in his follow-through.

Jadeja began his vigil, first alongside Nitish Kumar Reddy for 15 overs, then Bumrah. Jadeja and Brydon Carse had to be separated after an accidental collision while Jadeja was running between the wickets.

England tried everything and thought they had Jadeja until he overturned being given lbw to Chris Woakes on 26. Once again, Stokes decided it was up to him.

After a spell of 9.2 overs in the morning, the talismanic captain launched into another of 10 up to tea. Bashir had the moment of glory, but it was Stokes who carried England on his back.

Stokes conjures finale to slow-burning Test

This was a slow-burner of a Test, one that occasionally ground to a halt. The finale was more than worth it, a rowdy Monday at a sold-out Lord's. By the end, England's win was the tightest in terms of runs at this famous old ground.

It took three days for this match to spring to life. When it did, it was compelling. The deterioration of the pitch helped, but the real catalyst was the tension between the two teams. They are evenly matched and, if anything, India are unlucky to be behind. The last two Tests will be box-office viewing.

England look a better team with fire in their bellies, none more so than Stokes, the arch-competitor. He contributed to this win with bat and in the field, then shouldered the bowling almost single-handedly on the final day.

Stokes was also rewarded for his loyalty to Archer, who made one of the great England comebacks after four years away from Test cricket with injuries. The wicket of Yashasvi Jaiswal he took with his third ball back was an incredible moment, his spell on Monday morning final proof he remains every bit the bowler he was in his debut summer of 2019.

England will be forced into one change for the fourth Test, with Bashir set to be ruled out with an injury to his left little finger. India will wait on the fitness of Pant, who also has a finger injury.

In this wonderful year of Test cricket, with an Ashes series on the horizon, England are on the verge of winning a five-match series for the first time since 2018.

Source: BBC
 
mominsaigol said:
Gone but good effort. @Ab Fan

I change my mind about Jadeja. Herculean effort. Good going 👍🏻. I admit defeat.
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It needed an ATG knock from Jadeja for India to win. He played a great one but misses out on converting it as an all time great knock. We shouldn’t blame him for not being able to produce an all time great knock there. :inti
 
Ahmed216 said:
By your logic Root is less of a test player than Gill because he could not score in that same match
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That is a strawman logic you are using. If GIll can score Kohli can score is your argument. ROot is clearly a better test batsman than Kohli an d inform. He didn't score. How can you assume Kohli would ahve scored?
 
Bumrah should be dropped for the 4rth test for his stupid shot.

I'm amazed at how brain-dead some of these players r. The last thing you should be doing is hittin the ball in the air. Clown.
 
Highlight of the day though was Gavaskar and Ashwin crying about umpiring and technology.
 
Ab Fan said:
It needed an ATG knock from Jadeja for India to win. He played a great one but misses out on converting it as an all time great knock. We shouldn’t blame him for not being able to produce an all time great knock there. :inti
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He should have taken the chance when batting with Siraj. He didn't even tried to attack.

1run per over was Jadeja strategy and that was pathetic with Tailenders.

:kp
 
As long as Pants and Jadeja are in Ind will always have a chance. Although young Jaiswals shot will haunt him, Nair isnt an Ind batsman and surely Ind have better players in domestic cricket
 
RexRex said:
Bumrah should be dropped for the 4rth test for his stupid shot.

I'm amazed at how brain-dead some of these players r. The last thing you should be doing is hittin the ball in the air. Clown.
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Rasputin Effect
 
Ahmed216 said:
KL Rahul's dismissal and general biasness of umpiring against India
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I think everybody naturally goes against India due to their behaviors. They bring it upon themselves. :inti

For example, when Jadeja went for a toilet break, umpire Paul Reiffel was asking him to stop wasting time. India have this sense of entitlement which probably irritates people (including the umpires).
 
We have given England a lot of pain this past year and a half, in every format possible. It's only fair they give some back. Happy to spread some joy
 
Multiple posters tagged me but I am travelling lads...so havn't had a chance to watch the game. However feels good as a proud Britisher to be on the winning side again. Congratulations to all my fellow countrymen too @KingKhanWC @DeadlyVenom @Cpt. Rishwat and others.

We must also give credit to this talented Indian side. They are a side in transition and yet taking all 3 test matches so far all the way to 5th day. We never expected a Kohli less India will give our full strength side so much competition and that too at home in our conditions. No wonder we British public loves India play in our shores and always gives them 5 test matches wheever they come here.

At the end of the day, test cricket is the winner.

Rajdeep.
 
Rajdeep said:
Multiple posters tagged me but I am travelling lads...so havn't had a chance to watch the game. However feels good as a proud Britisher to be on the winning side again. Congratulations to all my fellow countrymen too @KingKhanWC @DeadlyVenom @Cpt. Rishwat and others.

We must also give credit to this talented Indian side. They are a side in transition and yet taking all 3 test matches so far all the way to 5th day. We never expected a Kohli less India will give our full strength side so much competition and that too at home in our conditions. No wonder we British public loves India play in our shores and always gives them 5 test matches wheever they come here.

At the end of the day, test cricket is the winner.

Rajdeep.
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India in Transition? Rohit was never a player to loose in test cricket and Kohli was already done. Surely Gill has filled his shoes already . Transition happens when you loose players that were backbone and instrumental in team wins. Kohli Rohit lost 3-0 to NZ at home
 
The Bald Eagle said:
England have won but still

THIS IS A RUBBISH SQUAD, WITH SOME AWFUL PLAYERS, ENG MUST BRING 4 TO 5 CHANGES
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True. Crawley, Pope, Bashir need to go.
Even Woakes isn't looking threatening like he used to, probably due to old age.

Good news for england is stokes finally made a match winning contribution with the bat
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
India in Transition? Rohit was never a player to loose in test cricket and Kohli was already done. Surely Gill has filled his shoes already . Transition happens when you loose players that were backbone and instrumental in team wins. Kohli Rohit lost 3-0 to NZ at home
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Transition has multiple meanings.
 
Really enjoying this series. Although Ind are down, England have the slightly weaker bowling line-up, although has closed the gap considerably with his pace, and Ind have the slightly weaker batting lineup.
 
James said:
Post of the year?
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Haha bro. I am no Indian supporter. I can however overrate the opposition most of the time.
But Woakes has lost his fizz. Stokes produced one of his Stokes performance. Eng need to replace him Cook. Carse is a workhorse.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
India in Transition? Rohit was never a player to loose in test cricket and Kohli was already done. Surely Gill has filled his shoes already . Transition happens when you loose players that were backbone and instrumental in team wins. Kohli Rohit lost 3-0 to NZ at home
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My deal Gulam...India has recently lost five senior players—Kohli, Rohit, Ashwin, Rahane, and Pujara—who were the backbone of their Test cricket side for quite some time. As a result, the team is clearly in a transitional phase, with a young captain and relatively inexperienced players. We Britishers thought we will run them over like we did during Jalianwala Bagh Massacre. However, the Indian team has shown remarkable resilience and grit across all three games so far, even managing to win one. This performance deserves respect, and the ECB’s decision to schedule five-Test series against them each time now seems fully justified. Hopefully you will not ask such juvenile question in future.

#Rajdeep
 
Rajdeep said:
My deal Gulam...India has recently lost five senior players—Kohli, Rohit, Ashwin, Rahane, and Pujara—who were the backbone of their Test cricket side for quite some time. As a result, the team is clearly in a transitional phase, with a young captain and relatively inexperienced players. We Britishers thought we will run them over like we did during Jalianwala Bagh Massacre. However, the Indian team has shown remarkable resilience and grit across all three games so far, even managing to win one. This performance deserves respect, and the ECB’s decision to schedule five-Test series against them each time now seems fully justified. Hopefully you will not ask such juvenile question in future.

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I already mentioned both Kohli and Rohit in my post , they were never key factors in recent overseas Test wins. As for Rahane, his last Test was in July 2023 against West Indies, and he hasn’t featured in any squad since. Pujara hasn’t played a Test since the WTC Final in June 2023 over 2 years now.
Regarding Ashwin yes, a great spinner overall, but let’s not pretend he’s been impactful in England. His record in UK conditions is modest at best, so his absence doesn’t drastically weaken the side.
This isn’t a case of a team in complete transition it’s mostly the same unit that’s been playing under Rohit. Let’s not overplay the “transitional phase” card every time results don’t go India’s way.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
That is a strawman logic you are using. If GIll can score Kohli can score is your argument. ROot is clearly a better test batsman than Kohli an d inform. He didn't score. How can you assume Kohli would ahve scored?
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It was a different pitch with the older ball . New ball is certain wickets , top 4 could be dismissed quickly but if they survive , not difficult to work singles and frustrate the bowler to bowl loose ones . Indian top order has no cricket IQ or Ghambir had to plan . They only needed to see off 30 overs for a certain victory. Sharma wouldn’t have stood a chance either , he’s a flat track bully like Sehwag, who got a king pair against the new ball in England . On the other side England used archer up front with serious pace , handful for any opener in test history .

The difference between the two sides is England are led by a smart captain and a great coach … India is led by amateurs
 
Shaping up as an epic series so far.

Two close wins for England. The 2nd Test belting was still exciting for everyone else stepping up in Bumrah's absence and Gill stamping his arrival in style.

As a neutral, really enjoyable.
 
wrongun said:
Shaping up as an epic series so far.

Two close wins for England. The 2nd Test belting was still exciting for everyone else stepping up in Bumrah's absence and Gill stamping his arrival in style.

As a neutral, really enjoyable.
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3Rd one yes. I dont think the 1st test was close.

England kinda stomped
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
I already mentioned both Kohli and Rohit in my post , they were never key factors in recent overseas Test wins. As for Rahane, his last Test was in July 2023 against West Indies, and he hasn’t featured in any squad since. Pujara hasn’t played a Test since the WTC Final in June 2023 over 2 years now.
Regarding Ashwin yes, a great spinner overall, but let’s not pretend he’s been impactful in England. His record in UK conditions is modest at best, so his absence doesn’t drastically weaken the side.
This isn’t a case of a team in complete transition it’s mostly the same unit that’s been playing under Rohit. Let’s not overplay the “transitional phase” card every time results don’t go India’s way.
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Whether they are useful or useless is not the point here. He was occupying no.4 spot a critical spot for too long. Pujara was at no.3 for long. Rohit as opener for long. So replacing that positions is called transition. So it is more or less complete transition. You probably use your logic to downplay it. But it is not true.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Whether they are useful or useless is not the point here. He was occupying no.4 spot a critical spot for too long. Pujara was at no.3 for long. Rohit as opener for long. So replacing that positions is called transition. So it is more or less complete transition. You probably use your logic to downplay it. But it is not true.
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yes logic is needed to dismantle this transition narrative. We can say Eng is in transition too. they lost Jimmy and Broad.. Hence Gill was able to score 600 Runs in 2 games
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
yes logic is needed to dismantle this transition narrative. We can say Eng is in transition too. they lost Jimmy and Broad.. Hence Gill was able to score 600 Runs in 2 games
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Indian team is in transition bro. Its not like they had the same openers, The same no 3 who is now a no 4, the same wicket keeper, the same ace allrounder jadeja, the same bowlers barring Shami etc etc.

What a transition they made losing kphli who was avg 27 since 2019, Rohit who was so bad post 2019 that I can't even comment and he himself dropped himself from the 5th test and the 1st test feigning injury, Shami who is another old veteran corpse at this point and Pujara who is next to finished.

How dare they replace these amazing battered veterans for better younger FC performers in better form and touch at present. Shame on them.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
yes logic is needed to dismantle this transition narrative. We can say Eng is in transition too. they lost Jimmy and Broad.. Hence Gill was able to score 600 Runs in 2 games
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Yea. They are in transition too in the bowling. Our bowling and batting are in transition. But nobody scored 600 against India lol
 
Great match, both teams put on a clinic for the fans. Ind should have won this, wasn't for the terrible batting by the top order, well played Eng 👏 well deserved win...

Cracker of a series with 2 mouth watering games ahead.

Pant should be rested if he is not fit, none of this drama with the injured finger...
 
mominsaigol said:
If Only India had a bowler like Boland and not Bumrah.

Boland is the greatest test bowler of this generation
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Clutch players are not easy to find......

every country gets one every few decades......Australia had one in Ian Harvey for ODIs and now they have Boland for Test

Bumrah fitness level is horrible hence he's losing his form slowly, it is still there but if he keeps taking off and rest its gona go downhill pretty soon.
 
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