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"I want to dedicate this Man of the Match award to the people who were sent from Pakistan back to Afghanistan."
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Could’ve dedicated it to Palestine but did this instead. They’re trying to create a new feud needlessly.Whats this guy smoking?
Afghanistan is no longer at war, the occupiers have left. Its a stable land which is now improving monthly.
It was Pakistan who helped the Afghan resistance to send the invaders home.
Surely anyone with self respect would want to return to their homeland or does this chap want them to live as refugees forever?
Could’ve dedicated it to Palestine but did this instead. They’re trying to create a new feud needlessly.
Palestine is not his cause, this directly impacts him.Could’ve dedicated it to Palestine but did this instead. They’re trying to create a new feud needlessly.
If Shahid Afridi can mention about Kashmir at toss, than so could this mention this aswell..
Pakistanis have no moral high ground to stand on here. If you have issue with this statement than maybe call Afridi's statement wrong than comment here.
I never had issue with Afridi's statement nor with this.
Good from Ibrahim. Now Pakistani fans will have something to whine about because there was nothing in the match they could whine about.
bro, they won. Let them say whatever they want. If we dont want them to make statements we should had defeated them but we couldn't. Mic is in there hand now and we have to sit out this one.Which Afridi statement? He has plenty lol.
Good from him? He is disprecting his nation here and his so called people. I would be like a Palestinian calling out Iran for sending Palestinians back to their land after the invaders have gone?
Its the most stupid after match statement in the history of sport lol.
bro, they won. Let them say whatever they want. If we dont want them to make statements we should had defeated them but we couldn't. Mic is in there hand now and we have to sit out this one.
Respect your consistent standardsIf Shahid Afridi can mention about Kashmir at toss, than so could this mention this aswell..
Pakistanis have no moral high ground to stand on here. If you have issue with this statement than maybe call Afridi's statement wrong than comment here.
I never had issue with Afridi's statement nor with this.
Good from Ibrahim. Now Pakistani fans will have something to whine about because there was nothing in the match they could whine about.
Afridi dedicated pakistan's team effort in advance for the kashmiris at 2011 world cup semi final against india in mohali.Which Afridi statement? He has plenty lol.
Good from him? He is disprecting his nation here and his so called people. I would be like a Palestinian calling out Iran for sending Palestinians back to their land after the invaders have gone?
Its the most stupid after match statement in the history of sport lol.
Hmm.. so you condone abusing fellow Muslims and yet you espouse the concept of ummah..The real Afghans(men) stayed in their land to fight the invaders.
Afridi dedicated pakistan's team effort in advance for the kashmiris at 2011 world cup semi final against india in mohali.
Hmm.. so you condone abusing fellow Muslims and yet you espouse the concept of ummah..
There is a limit to hypocrisy sir.
Fake news spread by Gambhir was it? Just like the fake news that those fans chanting Kohli Kohli at him were in fact chanting anti-India slogansAfridi dedicated pakistan's team effort in advance for the kashmiris at 2011 world cup semi final against india in mohali.
This. No need for political statements while representing your country in sport. Let him tweet and support whoever he wants in his private time.I think it's time the ICC takes a stand. Any cricketer making political statements either through words or by wearing some symbolic thing should be fined heavily. This should probably be limited to anything done on the cricket field. Let them say what they like on social media.
Fair play , Major. I don't agree with your stance but at least you apply it uniformly.If Shahid Afridi can mention about Kashmir at toss, than so could this mention this aswell..
Pakistanis have no moral high ground to stand on here. If you have issue with this statement than maybe call Afridi's statement wrong than comment here.
I never had issue with Afridi's statement nor with this.
Good from Ibrahim. Now Pakistani fans will have something to whine about because there was nothing in the match they could whine about.
Palestine is not his cause, this directly impacts him.
I am surprised that there has been no reaction from Pakistan Board till now?
Zadran clearly made a political statement. Why has PCB not filed an official complaint to ICC against him ?
What did he say?
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The real Afgans stayed in Afganistan to rebuild the country, not run off with puppets like Ashraf Gahni.He will get fined for this, though personally, I support anything and everything that exposes, to an international audience, the sheer wickedness and psychopathy of Asim Munir and the Pakistani military establishment. Full support to Ibrahim Zadran and the Afghan refugees that have been, and are to be, forcefully and violently displaced by ‘the company’.
Frankly I do not have anything against him for saying this. I mean, its very hypocritical of you to cry about Gaza if you can't be sympathetic towards people being uprooted from their homes, their livelihoods and their everyday reality. The essence of humanity is always the same, irrespective of whatever human rights issue you care for.
And please save me the rhetoric about about the "legality" of their living arrangements here; you and I both know how much you really care about the legal process and rule of law. I just hope Pakistanis won't ever have to be on the receiving end of what Afghan refugees have gone through over the years. Otherwise, after burning so many bridges, where would you go? The Arabian ocean? China?
are you a Pakistani that lives overseas?The real Afgans stayed in Afganistan to rebuild the country, not run off with puppets like Ashraf Gahni.
I wasn't born in Pakistan. You were, yet you support those who are hell bent on destroying everything.are you a Pakistani that lives overseas?
ok so you are not a pakistani?I wasn't born in Pakistan. You were, yet you support those who are hell bent on destroying everything.
Ethnically yes. So what's your pointok so you are not a pakistani?
before saying others ran away and the real ones stayed back. This would apply to every immigrant and their generations that reside outside of there country. So dont make such comments on othersEthnically yes. So what's your point
No it doesn't. And your case is definitely "pot calling the kettle black" I'm not taking lectures from a guy who supports murder, corruption, to suit his own narrative!before saying others ran away and the real ones stayed back. This would apply to every immigrant and their generations that reside outside of there country. So dont make such comments on others
I can’t do your critical thinking for you buddy, but you can start with this: There is a difference between repatriotizing refugees and deporting refugees.How? Was he sent home to Afghanistan from Pakistan as a refugee?
I don't get his point, does he not want Afghan refugees to return to their homeland?
They don’t, they live in India, as does their women’s team as does their government in exile, as do many who could get out when they could. None of them are inclined to return to Afghanistan just yet, and thus the crisis of deported refugees.How many of the Afghan cricket players live in Afghanistan??????? Do they all support the new governmenthypocrisy at its finest.
they all do, except for rashid who is based in UAE. I think Nabi aswellHow many of the Afghan cricket players live in Afghanistan??????? Do they all support the new governmenthypocrisy at it's finest.
Exactly point proven case closed. Hence no need for them to be making political statements.They don’t, they live in India, as does their women’s team as does their government in exile, as do many who could get out when they could. None of them are inclined to return to Afghanistan just yet, and thus the crisis of deported refugees.
They live in India because they cannot in Afghanistan. Conditions are dire there, and refugees deported there are going to experience a torrid time.Exactly point proven case closed. Hence no need for them to be making political statements.
They even have the wrong flag on their cricket world cup shirts. Who funds the ACB
I was under the impression they live in India. Which is why the Delhi gymkhana stadium is their unofficial home ground.they all do, except for rashid who is based in UAE. I think Nabi aswell
Delhi gymkhana? I thought it was Noida which is on the outskirts of delhiI was under the impression they live in India. Which is why the Delhi gymkhana stadium is their unofficial home ground.
Yes great observation I think you missed the point my post. NevermindThey live in India because they cannot in Afghanistan. Conditions are dire there, and refugees deported there are going to experience a torrid time.
But it's ok for the million plus Afghan refugees to live in Pakistan for the last 35 years.Yes great observation I think you missed the point my post. Nevermind
do you follow Afghanistan cricket? Do you read there players interviews? You saw one match saw one post match interview and have made this statement.But it's ok for the million plus Afghan refugees to live in Pakistan for the last 35 years.
Funny how no Afghanis mention this.
Exactly what I'm wondering. Does he want the Afghan refugees to remain in Pakistan? Surely he should also be having a pop at the Afghan 'government' too if he doesn't feel the refugees are able to return home.So once again, does anyone know what was Zadran protesting?
They don’t, they live in India, as does their women’s team as does their government in exile, as do many who could get out when they could. None of them are inclined to return to Afghanistan just yet, and thus the crisis of deported refugees.
Indeed I do my friend, hence my bemusement as to why they were celebrating the win as if they have won the world cup or turned Afghanistan into a modern progressive country.do you follow Afghanistan cricket? Do you read there players interviews? You saw one match saw one post match interview and have made this statement.
Afghan Cricketers have often mentioned they lived in Pakistan and played their cricket and learned there cricket from there. Alot of the senior guys have often said that they were inspired by the 1992 world cup
Exactly could not have said it better myself. Selective point scoring statements, to please their BCCI pay masters.Exactly what I'm wondering. Does he want the Afghan refugees to remain in Pakistan? Surely he should also be having a pop at the Afghan 'government' too if he doesn't feel the refugees are able to return home.
because it was there first win over Pakistan..Indeed I do my friend, hence my bemusement as to why they were celebrating the win as if they have won the world cup or turned Afghanistan into a modern progressive country.
Were you watching the celebrations on and off the field????
because it was there first win over Pakistan..
You are hurt the fact that Why Afghanistan beat Pakistan and why they celebrate the win. If Naseem and Pakistani players can run on to the ground as if they wont the world cup, than there is no harm in Afghan players in celebrating there first win over Pakistan.
The players have mentioned this many times that they grew up watching pakistan. Offcourse they want to beat the team they grew up watching.
The problem with people like you is that you dont respect Afghans and you expect them to kiss up to you. This is why Afghans do the opposite. Just like how pakistans take a mic to every foreign cricketer begging to do tareef of PSL.
nice try in shifting the goalpost.The irony of your post is comical. You have just made blanket statements and assumed many things about me. Let me educate you, I am not Pakistani.
Maybe your are not able to grasp context. I will attempt once more.
The issue my friend is not they beat Pakistan or celebrated their win. I was one of the first to congratulate the Afghan team.
However it's the political statements made internally and externally which is disgraceful.
The problem with people like you is you are not able to think #Lemming
BTW Your punctuation is horrendous
nice try in shifting the goalpost.
First your issue was why the celebrated, now you are saying that why they made a political statement.
Look what he wrote above. The guy had issue with the team celebrating and had to quickly shift goal postYou are just arguing over semantics now. Obviously no one would have any problem with a player celebrating their win over another country. Even Zadran can make a political point if he so wishes, but at least it should make sense.
What is he trying to say? Pakistan hosted over 4 million Afghan refugees at one point, maybe he was one of them. As @DeadlyVenom correctly points out, why does he think it is only Pakistan's responsibility to host millions of refugees indefinitely? He's living in India, why can't his adopted country bring them over there? Or why doesn't he ask Afghan homeland to arrange to bring them back?
I am fully supportive of that endeavor, I think India should welcome more displaced and refugees from Afghanistan. But I am not Indian, I am American, and welcoming more refugees from Afghanistan is one of the criteria upon which I determine who to vote for.Right so the Afghan players protesting against Pakistan are living and earning their bread in India. I think it's fair to say that means they will be "motivated" to put out political statements in line with their hosts anti-Pakistan policy.
So if you want to give lectures to Pakistan about repatriotising or deporting Afghan refugees, why not offer a million or so free route to India where you can put them up in better conditions? India is far richer than Pakistan, and let's not forget you have an open door to Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists to repatriate to India from Pakistan.
Look what he wrote above. The guy had issue with the team celebrating and had to quickly shift goal post
I would guess you are a very obtuse individual. Let make it clear for you to understand, everyone else seems to have grasped my point.Look what he wrote above. The guy had issue with the team celebrating and had to quickly shift goal post
nice try in shifting the goalpost.
First your issue was why the celebrated, now you are saying that why they made a political statement.
I welcome the day India takes in a few million Afghan refugees and supports them until their country is able to take them back. Hopefully it won't take a few decades for them to return.I am fully supportive of that endeavor, I think India should welcome more displaced and refugees from Afghanistan. But I am not Indian, I am American, and welcoming more refugees from Afghanistan is one of the criteria upon which I determine who to vote for.
Also as per another poster, I was incorrect thst the Afghanistan cricket team lives in India, they don’t, they live in Afghanistan
I would guess you are a very obtuse individual. Let make it clear for you to understand, everyone else seems to have grasped my point.
No one is bothered they celebrated a well deserved victory. It's the context and manner of statements that they were inferenced under
It's like Bangladesh winning the WC final against Pakistan and then saying dedicate this victory to all those that were killed during our independence or the displaced refugees, that were created as a result.
The only goal post that are being shifted, remain in your head.
The poster said he had issue with celebrations and than shifted goal post immediately.You are arguing about a poster shifting the goalpost rather than the actual issue. The topic isn't about a poster, it's about what Zadran said, this is why I said you are getting stuck in semantics rather than discussing intelligently.
When posters deny what they themselves wrote...Indeed I do my friend, hence my bemusement as to why they were celebrating the win as if they have won the world cup or turned Afghanistan into a modern progressive country.
Were you watching the celebrations on and off the field????
The poster said he had issue with celebrations and than shifted goal post immediately.
Why should what the poster said be ignored.
Bro if a poster is gonna come here and whine about a celebration than of course i will voice my opinion.Because the topic isn't about a poster on a message board. Make your point and move on, you don't have to keep your own private discourse going.
Correct I had to result to absurdity, in attempt to get my point across for the confused Major.I don't even think that is a valid comparison. Bangladeshis it could be argued might have valid grievances over what happened. Since Pakistan was the country which hosted Afghan refugees at great cost for decades, it just seems ingracious to be standing in Bharat and criticising Pakistan treatment of refugees when Afghanistan is now free and all refugees could return there, the country they were refugees from in the first place. Zadran should be aiming his criticism at his own govt, assuming he actually even lives there himself which I doubt.
I don't even think that is a valid comparison. Bangladeshis it could be argued might have valid grievances over what happened. Since Pakistan was the country which hosted Afghan refugees at great cost for decades, it just seems ingracious to be standing in Bharat and criticising Pakistan treatment of refugees when Afghanistan is now free and all refugees could return there, the country they were refugees from in the first place. Zadran should be aiming his criticism at his own govt, assuming he actually even lives there himself which I doubt.
Lol Mission accomplishedThanks to Zadran, the evacuation of Afghan refugees back to their homeland will speed up now. lol
I guess he does not think his homeland is good enough for his countrymen. He believes they are better off in Pakistan?