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[VIDEO] Imran Khan snr - An inspired selection by Misbah-ul-Haq?

Never just make selections based on tour games, pakistan never learns
 
We dropped Abbas for this guy :facepalm:

Please fire Misbah! I can't take this anymore.
 
Looking at how badly this guy performed in the last AUS tour, he really shouldn't have been picked but Abbas wouldn't have done any better anyways so I guess who cares?
 
Muhammad Saad said:
If Abbas has played and bowled the same as IK , Every one of us would be still blaming Misbah for not playing inform IK who just pickup a 5fer in a practice game.
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That’s completely wrong.

Imagine it’s 1992.

Waqar, Aaqib and Wasim coast in a side match and take a couple of wickets per innings.

Naved Anjum bowls at full throttle and takes a 5 wicket bag.

Are you seriously telling me you select Naved Anjum for the next Test instead of Wasim or Waqar?

Mohammad Abbas has a Test average of 18.85.

Who in their right mind drops that bowler?
 
Great selection. His QEA performance was infront of everyone. Revolutionary Misbah selected the non-performer.
 
Abbas is as bad as Imran. People are too delusional to think a trundler like Abbas would have made any difference and run through the Aus lineup.

Abbas has been taken to the cleaners by 2nd grade English domestic teams recently.

If the haters think we ever had a chance of beating Aus in Aus, then I salute your positivity. Our ATGs couldn't do it, so thank you for putting your trust in our young team.
 
Hawkeye said:
Abbas is as bad as Imran. People are too delusional to think a trundler like Abbas would have made any difference and run through the Aus lineup.

Abbas has been taken to the cleaners by 2nd grade English domestic teams recently.

If the haters think we ever had a chance of beating Aus in Aus, then I salute your positivity. Our ATGs couldn't do it, so thank you for putting your trust in our young team.
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If the result is such a foregone conclusion then why even bother playing?

When you know that the odds are stacked against you then why play anything less than your best side (even if only just on paper)? On pure merit Imran Khan with his past record and recent performances doesn't even deserve to be in the Pakistan A or B team. It's just circumstances (Amir and Wahab not being available and Junaid being sidelined) coupled with Misbah's fetish for experience that has seen him get a totally undeserved spot on the tour. Even then, to play him over Abbas is not just a tactical blunder but sheer insanity. Absolutely no one except blinkered followers of Misbah can see any logic in his selection. And if this selection was just on the evidence of the tour match then why was Haris picked over Imam?

I am not a Misbah hater, in fact I would be happy if he succeeds but a lot of what he does totally defies logic.
 
He had taken 5 wickets in 4 FC matches in this season before he was selected.
 
shah_1 said:
He had taken 5 wickets in 4 FC matches in this season before he was selected.
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Apparently all the provincial coaches said that he was bowling very well.

I am really doubting their analytical abilities right now.

Some semblance of performance should be a non-negotiable pre-requisite towards bringing ANY discarded player back into the team.
 
I genuinely felt sorry for the guy when I saw him unleashing those 125k thunderbolts and seeing the ball whizz past at an even faster rate to the boundary.
 
Both Abbass and IK are similar types of bowlers. Abbas should have played ahead on merit but i doubt he would have made much impact in these conditions.
 
Hawkeye said:
Abbas is as bad as Imran. People are too delusional to think a trundler like Abbas would have made any difference and run through the Aus lineup.

Abbas has been taken to the cleaners by 2nd grade English domestic teams recently.

If the haters think we ever had a chance of beating Aus in Aus, then I salute your positivity. Our ATGs couldn't do it, so thank you for putting your trust in our young team.
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Why do you have to defend everything Misbah does? What's wrong with admitting that selecting Imran Khan over Abbas was a big mistake?

Trundler or not, Abbas averages 18 with the ball despite mostly playing in the UAE, it just defies logic to pick someone like Imran Khan over him.
 
Hawkeye said:
Abbas is as bad as Imran. People are too delusional to think a trundler like Abbas would have made any difference and run through the Aus lineup.

Abbas has been taken to the cleaners by 2nd grade English domestic teams recently.

If the haters think we ever had a chance of beating Aus in Aus, then I salute your positivity. Our ATGs couldn't do it, so thank you for putting your trust in our young team.
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So your watching this match while already knowing the result. That must be fun.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Apparently all the provincial coaches said that he was bowling very well.

I am really doubting their analytical abilities right now.

Some semblance of performance should be a non-negotiable pre-requisite towards bringing ANY discarded player back into the team.
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Pretty much everyone on the coaching circuit knows the Misbah doctrine at this stage: bring back every player discarded by Mickey on fitness (irfaan, Imran), attitude (shehzad), or both fitness and attitude (Umar akmal)
We should expect the following players to be given chances
Zulfiqar Babar
Junaid Khan
Sami Assam
 
Hawkeye said:
Abbas is as bad as Imran. People are too delusional to think a trundler like Abbas would have made any difference and run through the Aus lineup.

Abbas has been taken to the cleaners by 2nd grade English domestic teams recently.

If the haters think we ever had a chance of beating Aus in Aus, then I salute your positivity. Our ATGs couldn't do it, so thank you for putting your trust in our young team.
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How exactly was he ‘taken to the cleaners’ against the 2nd grade English teams? Or are you just exaggerating to support your biased analysis.
 
Forum363 said:
How exactly was he ‘taken to the cleaners’ against the 2nd grade English teams? Or are you just exaggerating to support your biased analysis.
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Mohammad Abbas for Leicestershire in 2019:
9 matches
29 wickets
25.75 average
2.65 economy

Not really 'taken to the cleaners' material.
 
Abbas was one of Misbah's picks and it's Misbah who brought him into the set up. So no one can accuse Misbah of playing favourites. I will admit, I think this was a bit of a mistake. Abbas wouldn't have taken wickets but he would have at least kept things tight. IK is not even being a workhorse, he has just been straight up poor.
 
This thread isn't even about whether Abbas should have been picked over IK snr, so for Misbah *******, this is just a desperate attempt at deflection.

The simple truth is that IK snr should not have been selected for the OZ tour.
 
Muhammad Saad said:
Why do you guys think that Abbas had bowled better? He was having an atrocious FC season this year.
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Abbas has proven himself internationally, and he was pretty good in the county season.

If you want to talk about domestic, IK has 8 wickets at average of 49 in his last 5 first class games in Pakistan
 
Abdullah719 said:
Mohammad Abbas for Leicestershire in 2019:
9 matches
29 wickets
25.75 average
2.65 economy

Not really 'taken to the cleaners' material.
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Thanks for the stats, it seems like Abbas has done pretty decently. I thought he was averaging 50 or something based on what some posters were saying.
 
Kroll said:
The simple truth is that IK snr should not have been selected for the OZ tour.
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Gonna have to disagree here. If Misbah bhaijan never picked IK Snr this OZ tour, we would have never got the magical performance in the practice matches.
 
Shazzam said:
Gonna have to disagree here. If Misbah bhaijan never picked IK Snr this OZ tour, we would have never got the magical performance in the practice matches.
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Oh yeah! My bad. :yk2
 
Abdullah719 said:
Mohammad Abbas for Leicestershire in 2019:
9 matches
29 wickets
25.75 average
2.65 economy

Not really 'taken to the cleaners' material.
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Thank you for confirming the stats.

Some of the posters are the definition of ‘don’t let facts get in the way of a good story’.
 
We need to try and accept that Misbah will make more safe selections like this.

Should have been nowhere near the squad.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Should inspire Gul and Junaid. All-pathan bowling lineup needs backups :misbah
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Junaid yes, Gul no. but maybe sohail khan
Selection criteria is:
are you over 30?
did mickey sideline you?
do you have fitness issues in your past?

Welcome to the test team.
 
Pete Rose said:
Junaid yes, Gul no. but maybe sohail khan
Selection criteria is:
are you over 30?
did mickey sideline you?
do you have fitness issues in your past?

Welcome to the test team.
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Why is everyone forgetting THE :rahat1
On a serious note, given Misbah's inclination towards having an experienced fifth pacer (regardless of how useless) I am sure it must've been a close contest between IK and Rahat. Might even see him in action against SL.
 
amvbfm said:
Why is everyone forgetting THE :rahat1
On a serious note, given Misbah's inclination towards having an experienced fifth pacer (regardless of how useless) I am sure it must've been a close contest between IK and Rahat. Might even see him in action against SL.
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Rahat doesn’t have fitness issues. He has no brains
 
Muhammad Saad said:
If Abbas has played and bowled the same as IK , Every one of us would be still blaming Misbah for not playing inform IK who just pickup a 5fer in a practice game.
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Poor post, you don't change your line up game to game. Your best bowlers are your bear bowlers. End of.

No wonder Pak fans are so fickle and flip flop game to game
 
While Imran Khan’s spinners failed to dislodge the bails today and certified his uselessness I have to admit that Abbas must be thanking his stars that without bowling a single ball, he has been upgraded to the hero that would have changed the fortunes of the match.

He must be wishing he keeps staying out, so he can continue to get the accolades without having to bowl after that amazing performance in South Africa and continue to rise in the eyes of his fans.

Meanwhile, in other news Imran Khan must be hoping he can play another test match in the near future after his spin variation failed to trouble Australia.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Abbas was one of Misbah's picks and it's Misbah who brought him into the set up. So no one can accuse Misbah of playing favourites. I will admit, I think this was a bit of a mistake. Abbas wouldn't have taken wickets but he would have at least kept things tight. IK is not even being a workhorse, he has just been straight up poor.
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Abbas was never a genuine Misbah selection.

He picked any number of inferior and even slower “fast” bowlers during his captaincy, culminating in Imran Khan and Sohail Khan.

And he only picked Abbas in the final three matches of his career.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
While Imran Khan’s spinners failed to dislodge the bails today and certified his uselessness I have to admit that Abbas must be thanking his stars that without bowling a single ball, he has been upgraded to the hero that would have changed the fortunes of the match.

He must be wishing he keeps staying out, so he can continue to get the accolades without having to bowl after that amazing performance in South Africa and continue to rise in the eyes of his fans.

Meanwhile, in other news Imran Khan must be hoping he can play another test match in the near future after his spin variation failed to trouble Australia.
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He's also much more likely to solidify that hero tag when he inevitably comes in for the next test in much more favourable pink ball conditions and takes a few wickets.
 
This trundler was dropped 3 years ago because he looked absolutely inept here in Australia.

What does Misbah do?

Bring him back just in time for the next Australia tour.
 
angrypathan said:
He's also much more likely to solidify that hero tag when he inevitably comes in for the next test in much more favourable pink ball conditions and takes a few wickets.
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He averages above 40 in NZ and Sourh Africa in favorable conditions so that is not a cert either
 
Pete Rose said:
Junaid yes, Gul no. but maybe sohail khan
Selection criteria is:
are you over 30?
did mickey sideline you?
do you have fitness issues in your past?

Welcome to the test team.
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Way too much power given to one individual and this is what happens. As coach and selector I'm not sure he'll be held accountable for these decisions.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
While Imran Khan’s spinners failed to dislodge the bails today and certified his uselessness I have to admit that Abbas must be thanking his stars that without bowling a single ball, he has been upgraded to the hero that would have changed the fortunes of the match.

He must be wishing he keeps staying out, so he can continue to get the accolades without having to bowl after that amazing performance in South Africa and continue to rise in the eyes of his fans.

Meanwhile, in other news Imran Khan must be hoping he can play another test match in the near future after his spin variation failed to trouble Australia.
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You can add Sarfaraz, Shadab and Faheem to that list of heroes by default.
 
Waqar Younis on Imran Khan Snr:


"Its upto the selection committee, head coach to decide who will or wont play in next game but to say that Imran Khan Snr's inclusion in the 1st Test team was incorrect would be unfair to him"

"This is because his performance in First-Class was good, and he took 5 wickets in the Perth side-game as well so he has been bowling well but unfortunately could not do well in this game"
 
MenInG said:
Waqar Younis on Imran Khan Snr:


"Its upto the selection committee, head coach to decide who will or wont play in next game but to say that Imran Khan Snr's inclusion in the 1st Test team was incorrect would be unfair to him"

"This is because his performance in First-Class was good, and he took 5 wickets in the Perth side-game as well so he has been bowling well but unfortunately could not do well in this game"
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He's averaging 49.13 in 5 FC matches this season.

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Muhammad Saad said:
If Abbas has played and bowled the same as IK , Every one of us would be still blaming Misbah for not playing inform IK who just pickup a 5fer in a practice game.
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Actually Abbas should have played instead of Yasir Shah.

Yasir Shah hasn't done anything in Australia or South Africa and hasn't been that great in England either, apart from one match.

With IK doing so well in the warmup game, and Abbas having a very good record particularly against the Aussies, the logical thing to do would have been to play them both and drop the guy who hasn't performed at all.
 
MenInG said:
Waqar Younis on Imran Khan Snr:


"Its upto the selection committee, head coach to decide who will or wont play in next game but to say that Imran Khan Snr's inclusion in the 1st Test team was incorrect would be unfair to him"
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I think he meant Misbah here :wahab2
 
Well he is back in the squad for series against Sri Lanka.
 
Was he even that bad vs Australia? I didn't watch but I saw the scorecards and he done the same as other bowlers. Everyone made him the scape goat.
 
He shouldn't have been dropped 3 years ago but now it is foolish to bring him back. It's time to move in and invest in the new generation in Shaheen, Naseem and Sameen.
 
His selection was not justified for the Australia tour, and didn't do much at all in his performances in Australia to get selected for SL. Assuming he plays in the XI, he better **** well be the pick of the bowlers. This is frustrating.
 
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that he wouldn’t make most first XI Sydney grade or Vic Premier sides.
 
Hopefully he doesn’t make the starting XI.

Can’t believe he has been retained.
 
After analyzing our behaviors :

Almost 90% (including me) is finicky. even I fell for IKS 5 for in tour game. We simply get impressed with anything , be it a top edge six, taking 5 wicket against B side team, etc. And advocate the mediocre player unless he fails. and when he fails we shout, bad coach, bad mgmt...

But when mgmt has picked someone they have total right to give fair chances to the player. But that never happens. Because our media creates such conspiracy theories that people just forget about the cricket and why we lost, whether that was off cutter thrown from arm's length, etc. And every one just talks about groupism, in fighting, unfair selection etc. And this thing sells very well among people.
 
In the squad for first Test vs Bangladesh

The faith in this bowler is simply awesome!
 
And he is in the reckoning for the Test series again vs England as part of 20 players
 
He's there for the experienced mentor role and to encourage his young Pathan mates Naseem and Shaheen. That's the only reason I can explain hes here.
 
3/29 for Imran Khan for KP vs CP on Day 1 of Round 4 of QeA20
 
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MenInG said:
3/29 for Imran Khan for KP vs CP on Day 1 of Round 4 of QeA20
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From PCB report:

The defending champions (CP) dealt a blow on the first ball of the match as Ali Zaryab was trapped in front by Imran Khan Snr. The pacer added two more wickets to his tally and returned three for 29 from 13 overs, four of which were maidens.
 
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I consider this guy a very underrated bowler, every time I see him he seems to have impact. He bowls a tight line and hits the pitch harder than you think. Shame he won't be considered for the T20 world cup, would be perfect for him.
 
Performing in this nat t20 cup is nothing to write home about. The batting is a very poor standard even on flat decks.

Unless he keeps taking 3/4 wickets per game i don't think there's any merit to him replacing any of the pacers we've selected.
 
Best bowler of the tournament (National T20 Cup 2021/22) : Imran Khan Snr (16 wickets)
 
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