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Chautauqua, N.Y. (AP) -- Salman Rushdie, the author whose writing led to death threats from Iran in the 1980s, was attacked Friday as he was about to give a lecture in western New York.

An Associated Press reporter witnessed a man storm the stage at the Chautauqua Institution and begin punching or stabbing Rushdie as he was being introduced. The author was taken or fell to the floor, and the man was restrained.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rushdie-attacked-on-lecture-stage-in-new-york

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No news about this in Left wing media outlets.

On Fox News website, its the main headline news.
 
Seems to be unclear what happened at the moment.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pictures circulating show the Salman Rushdie being wheeled away on a stretcher after he was stabbed in New York, contrary to some reports he walked off stage, and the perpetrator being arrested. <a href="https://t.co/eMy4t5RvGt">pic.twitter.com/eMy4t5RvGt</a></p>— Kyle Orton (@KyleWOrton) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1558115760093929472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
This hate preacher still around?

Will be interesting to see the motive of the attacker. Pretty senseless attack, he was more irreverent than ever and ready to kick the bucket.
 
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I had a lecturer at UNI who would continuously reiterate that the satanic verses is a very good novel even though a good majority of our program was predominantly Muslim, hijabi women.

I don’t understand why the west has to promote this one novel at all? It needs to be shelved. Just leave the sentiments of Muslims alone for once, they will not accept this idea of ‘freedom of speech’ which they want them to understand
 
Sad to see. Hopefully the perpetrator is punished. "Midnight's Children" is one of the best ever written by an Indian English writer.
 
I had a lecturer at UNI who would continuously reiterate that the satanic verses is a very good novel even though a good majority of our program was predominantly Muslim, hijabi women.

I don’t understand why the west has to promote this one novel at all? It needs to be shelved. Just leave the sentiments of Muslims alone for once, they will not accept this idea of ‘freedom of speech’ which they want them to understand

He is an overated writer. He wrote the disgusting Satanic Verses for self publicity, he knew exactly what he was doing. There are some views, Rushdie was encouraged to write this for propaganda against Iran. Rushdie was and is a big fan of Israel. Its nothing to do with great writing, just a vile human being who abused the Prophet of so many openly.
 
He is an overated writer. He wrote the disgusting Satanic Verses for self publicity, he knew exactly what he was doing. There are some views, Rushdie was encouraged to write this for propaganda against Iran. Rushdie was and is a big fan of Israel. Its nothing to do with great writing, just a vile human being who abused the Prophet of so many openly.

Whatever the critics feel about it, the novel needs to be taken off book shelves across the world just like Mein Kampf has been banned mainly. It clearly will never be accepted and Muslims will not change their stance on the love and respect they have for the honour of Prophet s.a.
 
Sad to see. Hopefully the perpetrator is punished. "Midnight's Children" is one of the best ever written by an Indian English writer.

India was different many years ago, its a great thing they banned this disgraceful rubbish book of his. I'd say most Indians apart from those who have anti-Muslim confusion in their brains are not proud Rushdie is Indian born.
 
Whatever the critics feel about it, the novel needs to be taken off book shelves across the world just like Mein Kampf has been banned mainly. It clearly will never be accepted and Muslims will not change their stance on the love and respect they have for the honour of Prophet s.a.

Any self respecting people or country would ban this trash. Many countries have.

The so called secular west use the excuse of freedom of speech but in reality they enjoy and cheer on any attacks on religion or anything which could be used as propaganda against Iran. You cant criticise Israeli government policies but you can allow abuse/hatred against a Prophet. These people are just as crackers as Rushdie.
 
India was different many years ago, its a great thing they banned this disgraceful rubbish book of his. I'd say most Indians apart from those who have anti-Muslim confusion in their brains are not proud Rushdie is Indian born.

The only reason that book was banned was because Government of India goes out of it's way to ban books that hurt religious sentiments be that if the majority or the minority for fear of communal riots breaking out in this country. And its done even today. There's no difference in that regard between the India of old and today's India.

Rushdie has been a regular at literature festivals in India for many, many years.
 
Author Salman Rushdie, 75, appears to have been stabbed in the neck on stage at an event in New York state, according to police

A man stormed the stage as the famed novelist was about to give a lecture at the Chautauqua Institution, an arts and education centre

Rushdie was treated on stage then taken to hospital by helicopterA suspect was arrested at the scene and is in custody, New York State Police say
 
I had a lecturer at UNI who would continuously reiterate that the satanic verses is a very good novel even though a good majority of our program was predominantly Muslim, hijabi women.

I don’t understand why the west has to promote this one novel at all? It needs to be shelved. Just leave the sentiments of Muslims alone for once, they will not accept this idea of ‘freedom of speech’ which they want them to understand

Freedom of speech is the bedrock of American Values. They insult and joke on everyone. No one is exempt from this criticism.
 
The only reason that book was banned was because Government of India goes out of it's way to ban books that hurt religious sentiments be that if the majority or the minority for fear of communal riots breaking out in this country. And its done even today. There's no difference in that regard between the India of old and today's India.

Rushdie has been a regular at literature festivals in India for many, many years.

It seems you're a big fan, condolences to you if he goes.

Of course peace and security trumps the right of any trashy book filled with hate to be bought.

If Rushdie wrote an anti-Hindu book abusing Hindu Gods, you think he would be welcomed with open arms to these so called festivals you talk of?
 
Freedom of speech is the bedrock of American Values. They insult and joke on everyone. No one is exempt from this criticism.

You are wrong. Muslims will never tolerate that kind of criticism and ridicule for the honour of their beloved Prophet (s.a) and his family/companions. Just accept it, because the Muslims will not accept that idea of FOS in this matter.
 
This hate preacher still around?

Will be interesting to see the motive of the attacker. Pretty senseless attack, he was more irreverent than ever and ready to kick the bucket.

We often find that the attackers are as Islamic as Tommy Robinson but love the notoriety and looking religious. If anyone can tell me how a single Muslim gains anything from this attack, I am all ears
 
The only reason that book was banned was because Government of India goes out of it's way to ban books that hurt religious sentiments be that if the majority or the minority for fear of communal riots breaking out in this country. And its done even today. There's no difference in that regard between the India of old and today's India.

Rushdie has been a regular at literature festivals in India for many, many years.

Didn't some comedian receive death threats in Ind?
 
Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses was funded by Zionists.

The guy was born in India, and doesn't believe in any super natural entities, which is fine, but it makes you wonder why he targeted Islam, and not other religions when he describes himself as a hardline atheist.

Funded by the Zionists, but was rejected residency in Isreal when Iran had him sweating bricks.

No love or tears lost for this evil looking man.
 
I had a lecturer at UNI who would continuously reiterate that the satanic verses is a very good novel even though a good majority of our program was predominantly Muslim, hijabi women.

I don’t understand why the west has to promote this one novel at all? It needs to be shelved. Just leave the sentiments of Muslims alone for once, they will not accept this idea of ‘freedom of speech’ which they want them to understand

On a literary level it is one of his weaker novels. His historically themed novels “Midnight’s Children” (about India) and “Shame” (about Pakistan) are both interesting to read & are far less baiting.

Hope Rushdie is ok.
 
On a literary level it is one of his weaker novels. His historically themed novels “Midnight’s Children” (about India) and “Shame” (about Pakistan) are both interesting to read & are far less baiting.

Hope Rushdie is ok.

There is no denying that the man is a gifted writer and those novels mentioned are literary classics. He is also an inspirational writer for the south Asian diaspora and aspiring post colonial writers but that one novel (Satanic Verses) needs to go and he should just apologise for it! His life will forever be under threat because of it
 
We often find that the attackers are as Islamic as Tommy Robinson but love the notoriety and looking religious. If anyone can tell me how a single Muslim gains anything from this attack, I am all ears

Rushdie went to war with Islam metaphorically speaking. This guy will gain notoriety for being the Muslim who put him down, although obviously if his attack failed to kill Rushdie then it will be seen as a weak effort. This is just how these people think, as far as they are concerned they are defending the honour of their prophet.
 
Rushdie suffered multiple wounds, doctor says

An doctor who was at the Chautauqua Institution event has told the New York Times that she helped treat Rushdie after the stabbing.

Rita Landman told the Times that Rushdie had suffered from several stab wounds, including one to the right side of his neck.

She added that a pool of blood had formed under his body on stage.
Rushdie was not receiving CPR at the time and appeared to be alive.

"People were saying, 'He has a pulse, he has a pulse he has a pulse,'" she said.
 
New York state governor Kathy Hochul confirms at a press conference that Rushdie is still alive.

Rushdie is "getting the care he needs" after being taken to hospital, says Hochul.

More information is being gathered about the perpetrator, she adds.
 
Rushdie went to war with Islam metaphorically speaking. This guy will gain notoriety for being the Muslim who put him down, although obviously if his attack failed to kill Rushdie then it will be seen as a weak effort. This is just how these people think, as far as they are concerned they are defending the honour of their prophet.

Has it been confirmed the suspect is a Muslim?
 
There is no denying that the man is a gifted writer and those novels mentioned are literary classics. He is also an inspirational writer for the south Asian diaspora and aspiring post colonial writers but that one novel (Satanic Verses) needs to go and he should just apologise for it! His life will forever be under threat because of it

Rushdie could have had an incredible career as one of the “Goat” writers without the Satanic Verses, and like you say he was in a particularly unique position to positively influence others due to the cultural/ethnic context and his personal background.

Before the Satanic Verses was published he had won lots of awards & was already very well known. I think the fame went to his head and he bit off more than he could chew.

As it is he probably goes down historically as a “good” author rather than a great one, who due to one particular series of incidents is just as infamous as he is famous.

I am not sure if the “Fatwa” was ever formally retracted or not, and we will find out in the near future whether it was used as an inspiration for the cowardly and foolish attack today. I hope that Rushdie makes a full recovery.
 
Has it been confirmed the suspect is a Muslim?

Don’t think so. We have very little confirmed information about this whole thing still. The attacker could be another one of the American white nationalist nutters.
 
Rushdie could have had an incredible career as one of the “Goat” writers without the Satanic Verses, and like you say he was in a particularly unique position to positively influence others due to the cultural/ethnic context and his personal background.

Before the Satanic Verses was published he had won lots of awards & was already very well known. I think the fame went to his head and he bit off more than he could chew.

As it is he probably goes down historically as a “good” author rather than a great one, who due to one particular series of incidents is just as infamous as he is famous.

I am not sure if the “Fatwa” was ever formally retracted or not, and we will find out in the near future whether it was used as an inspiration for the cowardly and foolish attack today. I hope that Rushdie makes a full recovery.

No it hasnt. The reward is $6 million. If Rushdie dies, which seems unlikely , the attacker just needs to send an email to Iran with his bank details.
 
It matters not. It happened

It does matter. When MF Husain was threatened by extremists in India for painting Hindu goddesses , there were many Indians who supported his right to paint whatever he wants.

On the other hand we have a poster right above you who is almost celebrating the attacker so...
 
Rushdie went to war with Islam metaphorically speaking. This guy will gain notoriety for being the Muslim who put him down, although obviously if his attack failed to kill Rushdie then it will be seen as a weak effort. This is just how these people think, as far as they are concerned they are defending the honour of their prophet.

They don't care for the honour of the Prophet(PBUH), these losers are attention seekers. The best way to defend our Prophets( PBUH) honour is to be good people. Give charity and care for your fellow human beings. Those that pretend to defend his honour,care least about the damage they do.
 
I had a lecturer at UNI who would continuously reiterate that the satanic verses is a very good novel even though a good majority of our program was predominantly Muslim, hijabi women.

I don’t understand why the west has to promote this one novel at all? It needs to be shelved. Just leave the sentiments of Muslims alone for once, they will not accept this idea of ‘freedom of speech’ which they want them to understand

If you don’t like it, don’t read it. There you are, sorted.

But I bet whoever issued the fatwa hadn’t read it either. He was told that it was blasphemous by two Britons. This is called letting other people do your thinking for you.
 
Now had this man written anything about the Zionists he would have been ridiculed and completely defamed. What suits the narrative.
 
They don't care for the honour of the Prophet(PBUH), these losers are attention seekers. The best way to defend our Prophets( PBUH) honour is to be good people. Give charity and care for your fellow human beings. Those that pretend to defend his honour,care least about the damage they do.

Obviously the vast majority of people would be horrified at this sort of attack, but it's quite clear that there are extremists with a sword first mentality. It didn't help when the Ayatollah announced a fatwa on Rushdie's life which went worldwide.
 
Obviously the vast majority of people would be horrified at this sort of attack, but it's quite clear that there are extremists with a sword first mentality. It didn't help when the Ayatollah announced a fatwa on Rushdie's life which went worldwide.

No doubt there are. I saw them at Uni and I see them around trying to persuade others. They don't last long in front of me.
 
If you don’t like it, don’t read it. There you are, sorted.

But I bet whoever issued the fatwa hadn’t read it either. He was told that it was blasphemous by two Britons. This is called letting other people do your thinking for you.

The world is bigger than what atheists seem to think it is.

If we dont like it , we will condemn it. Nations will ban it , as is their right.

A bit of reading will inform you the Fatwa given was by the leader of Iran. Iranians and millions of others did read extracts which were disgusting attacks on our Prophet(pbuh).

I assume you're a fan of the Satanic verses.
 
Salman Rushdie is in surgery, Reuters news agency quotes his agent as saying.
 
If satanic verses is insulting to Islam then all Abrahamic religions are insulting to pagan religions. Perhaps we should demand to ban Abrahamic religions
 
If satanic verses is insulting to Islam then all Abrahamic religions are insulting to pagan religions. Perhaps we should demand to ban Abrahamic religions

Who is WE?

I would guess a majoirty Pagan nation may do but there isnt one. Unless you think Hinduism is Pagan?

Change.org or would you prefer a protest?
 
I find it interesting that while everyone wanted to kill Rushdie and denounce him, no one really cared about researching that where did Rushdie got the idea for Santanic verses and try to prove him wrong.

I didnt directly came across about Rushdie Santanic verses, I knew it existed and read the wikipedia script about the book.

I was once just doing some research on Islam. Interestingly, i came across the Seerah of Prophet and how it was written.

Basically, the Seerah of the Prophet that we read today, its source is from Ibn Hisham, however Ibn Hisham narrated the Seerah from Ibn Ishaq. The works of Ibn Ishaq I believe cannot be found which is why Ibn Hisham is used as a source.

Now on the forward of Ibn Hisham's written Seerah on the Prophet, he wrote that he omitted alot of stuff from the Seerah, basically he writes on the forward that, "things which it is disgraceful to discuss; matters which would distress certain people"

Now, anti islam or exmuslim websites claim that what Ibne Ishaq had written was basically what Santanic Verses talks about. Some say that Ibne Ishaq wrote controversial things about the Prophet, yet Ibn Hisham narrated from his book and he admits on the forward that he omitted some things that can cause controversy.

Anyways, the Seerah by Ibne Ishaq vanished from the world, it got lost and thus the oldest seerah i guess is Ibn Hishams.



I think Salman Rushdie took the inspiration of his book from this forward of Ibn Hisham. Yet i couldn't find anything on the net and just connected the dots.

Instead of giving a fatwa, why didn't the mullahs try to counter this point if the whole book revolves around what Ibn Hisham had omitted or what Ibn Ishaq had written.

I had once asked about this from a religious scholar who admits that Ibne Hisham did write this but than went on to say that people who are ex muslims, anti muslims sprout this kind of baakwas against Islam and ibne Ishaq never said anything controversial.

Point being, to challenge Salman Rushdies book, Islamic Jurist could had been more logical by researching with an open mind and giving a rebuttal on what they think Ibne Ishaq wrote and was omitted.

Because at the end of the day what Salman Rudie rights, there is no proof as Ibn Ishaq's version of the Seerah is lost
 
The world is bigger than what atheists seem to think it is.

If we dont like it , we will condemn it. Nations will ban it , as is their right.

A bit of reading will inform you the Fatwa given was by the leader of Iran. Iranians and millions of others did read extracts which were disgusting attacks on our Prophet(pbuh).

I assume you're a fan of the Satanic verses.

Issue is that if other nations have banned the book, well & good- but that has no significance in America. We have complete FOS here to criticize any religion. And to the people who have a problem with it, then well dont let the door hit you on your way out! Please stay in Iran or wherever makes you religiously happy.
 
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] Clueless post.

Rushdies nonsense has been taken apart many times. Im not going to go into detail but will give you just one example, he referred to the Prophet(pbuh) wives as prostitutes, it doesnt need refuting.

Killing him is wrong but it would be hard for any self respecting Muslim not to give him a slap if they met.
 
There are reports that Rushdie was stabbed multiple times in the neck and torso.
 
Issue is that if other nations have banned the book, well & good- but that has no significance in America. We have complete FOS here to criticize any religion. And to the people who have a problem with it, then well dont let the door hit you on your way out! Please stay in Iran or wherever makes you religiously happy.

Youre ignorant if you think FOS is absolute in America.

Books considered anti-semitic are banned in US. Many others too inc books which are homophobic or racist.
 
I love how atheists say - don't like it then don't read it. Why then when jokes about the Holocaust resulted in Atheists taking a hiatus cos they were offended? Don't like it don't hear it - doesn't count when Jews are involved?

Yet when Islam is involved, ridiculed, mocked, it is a case of - hey guys we have freedom of expression! We have a right to offend!

Hocus Pocus.
 
Who is WE?

I would guess a majoirty Pagan nation may do but there isnt one. Unless you think Hinduism is Pagan?

Change.org or would you prefer a protest?

We as in followers of pagan religions. Is Hinduism is mostly pagan in nature
 
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] Clueless post.

Rushdies nonsense has been taken apart many times. Im not going to go into detail but will give you just one example, he referred to the Prophet(pbuh) wives as prostitutes, it doesnt need refuting.

Killing him is wrong but it would be hard for any self respecting Muslim not to give him a slap if they met.

It hasnt been. No one has really looked into what inspired rushdie to write this book, and its my assumption that maybe just maybe it was that small forward written by Ibn Hisham that lead him to this book.

Now Ibn Hisham himself is admitting he omitted something when he had no right to do that. If Salman Rushdie was inspired by that forward than a rebuttal should had been giving on the forward written by Ibn Hisham.

The response I have read or heard are the typical, oh its a conspiracy against Islam, only ex muslims says such things blablabla. No one looks at it with an open mind. Maybe there is a rebuttal out there if I do dig deep. But i just found that one point really interesting and would assume thats where Salman Rushdie took the idea and came up with his book
 
I love how atheists say - don't like it then don't read it. Why then when jokes about the Holocaust resulted in Atheists taking a hiatus cos they were offended? Don't like it don't hear it - doesn't count when Jews are involved?

Yet when Islam is involved, ridiculed, mocked, it is a case of - hey guys we have freedom of expression! We have a right to offend!

Hocus Pocus.

Not sure about Judaism, but Christianity and/or Jesus regularly get a severe hazing: Monty Python’s Life of Brian, Jerry Springer the Opera, The Book of Mormon, The Da Vinci Code, etc.
 
Not sure about Judaism, but Christianity and/or Jesus regularly get a severe hazing: Monty Python’s Life of Brian, Jerry Springer the Opera, The Book of Mormon, The Da Vinci Code, etc.

But this is my point. Every ideology, with the exception of Judaism, is open season when it comes to free speech.

Judaism? Make one joke and you have to deal with cries of racism. It is the only ideology in the UK that is protected by race laws because Jews are considered a race.
 
The word on the street is that Salman Rushdie will not survive. One of the world's great writers is going to be taken away from us by religion-inspired madness.
 
We as in followers of pagan religions. Is Hinduism is mostly pagan in nature

How is Hinduism Pagan, please do explain?

If this was the case, the BJP/RSS government would have protested but to this day they havent protested the bible , toroh or Quran. Please explain which parts you find offensive as a Pagan and what type of paganism do you follow?

Rushdie attacked a genuine people who existed and are revered by nearly 2 billion. You'll struggle to prove the same but give it a go.
 
It hasnt been. No one has really looked into what inspired rushdie to write this book, and its my assumption that maybe just maybe it was that small forward written by Ibn Hisham that lead him to this book.

Now Ibn Hisham himself is admitting he omitted something when he had no right to do that. If Salman Rushdie was inspired by that forward than a rebuttal should had been giving on the forward written by Ibn Hisham.

The response I have read or heard are the typical, oh its a conspiracy against Islam, only ex muslims says such things blablabla. No one looks at it with an open mind. Maybe there is a rebuttal out there if I do dig deep. But i just found that one point really interesting and would assume thats where Salman Rushdie took the idea and came up with his book

Instaed of writing more and more, perhaps do a little research. Many scholars have schooled this sick man even though it wasnt required. Ahmet Deedat who has been dead for 17 years gave a detailed response to him, many others have too.
 
The word on the street is that Salman Rushdie will not survive. One of the world's great writers is going to be taken away from us by religion-inspired madness.

On the street?

Has the motive been confirmed, please provide a link?

I hope you're ok and find more books to read.
 
How is Hinduism Pagan, please do explain?

If this was the case, the BJP/RSS government would have protested but to this day they havent protested the bible , toroh or Quran. Please explain which parts you find offensive as a Pagan and what type of paganism do you follow?

Rushdie attacked a genuine people who existed and are revered by nearly 2 billion. You'll struggle to prove the same but give it a go.
Sure . The great saints we revere have reported that they have faced and talked with God in the form of goddess Kali, or Durga. Now as according to all Abrahamic religions it is not possible. So there are three possibilities 1. They are lying. 2 . They were hallucinating or mentally ill. 3. They have been deceived by Satan/ jinns, as per the particular Abrahamic religion. So tell me which of these three conclusions are not insulting ?
 
Youre ignorant if you think FOS is absolute in America.

Books considered anti-semitic are banned in US. Many others too inc books which are homophobic or racist.

Can you tell me any homophobic/anti semitic book which was outright banned in the US? Mein Kempf enjoys first amendment protection. Hell, many people tried to get Passion of Christ or Da vinci series banned but even they couldnt succeed. The Book of Mormon which is openly criticizing the Mormon church is performed everyday on Broadway (sidenote - its hilarious!) And lewd jokes on religion is a everyday feature in any comedy club of NYC.

Dont teach me about FOS in America. These rights are set in stone - period.
 
But this is my point. Every ideology, with the exception of Judaism, is open season when it comes to free speech.

Judaism? Make one joke and you have to deal with cries of racism. It is the only ideology in the UK that is protected by race laws because Jews are considered a race.

Judaism earned its protection.

Its people were once the most hated one in the world, especially in Europe. Like it or not, but once they got a country carved out from the Ottomans, they worked smartly to have a voice in the world. While Muslims were banning TV and issuing fatwa against it, Jews took advantage of it. Today, no one can deny Holocaust happened because Jews made sure that movies were made on it so that people remember. Schlinders list gives you the chills if you understand the whole context of it, especially the shower scenes or the ghetto clean up scenes.

Muslims failed to have an impact or use knowledge to their advantage. We still not sure whether making series or films on the life of Prophet is right or wrong, while many of the stories from our religion can be used to make films to inspire and bring more people towards Islam.

If Rushdie dies after this attack and the attacker is proven to be a Muslim, it only does more harm for Muslims. They would continue to be branded as people with Terrorist mindset no matter what.

Sometimes to challenge the other person, you dont have to resort to violence as it will always make you look bad. Even in this thread, you see KKWC saying that Rushdie deserved to be slapped by a Muslim, instead of understanding from where Rushdie got his view point and trying to rebuttal those inspirations.

Mein Kemph is not shelved, and thats because Jewish people have worked hard.

its like how BCCI had to work hard and get their house in order to make sure they are not taken advantage of and today they have the power in cricket.
 
If satanic verses is insulting to Islam then all Abrahamic religions are insulting to pagan religions. Perhaps we should demand to ban Abrahamic religions

Do you think Sikh religion should be banned in India because your PM was murdered by her Sikh bodyguards?
 
Sure . The great saints we revere have reported that they have faced and talked with God in the form of goddess Kali, or Durga. Now as according to all Abrahamic religions it is not possible. So there are three possibilities 1. They are lying. 2 . They were hallucinating or mentally ill. 3. They have been deceived by Satan/ jinns, as per the particular Abrahamic religion. So tell me which of these three conclusions are not insulting ?

Abrahamic faiths just dont believe in Kali or Durga. They wouldn't care enough to say its not possible and the God of these faiths is powerful enough do what he wishes. If you're not making this up, please show some evidence.

However to compare this to abusing the Prophet(pbuh), his family is daft.
 
Abrahamic faiths just dont believe in Kali or Durga. They wouldn't care enough to say its not possible and the God of these faiths is powerful enough do what he wishes. If you're not making this up, please show some evidence.

However to compare this to abusing the Prophet(pbuh), his family is daft.

That's just not reading in between the lines. Take atheists for example . As they don't believe in God and or Satan, so according to them the only conclusion is Prophet Muhammad was lying, wouldn't you say that's even more insulting than saying Prophet was deceived ? And will you demand bans on books on atheism?
 
Instaed of writing more and more, perhaps do a little research. Many scholars have schooled this sick man even though it wasnt required. Ahmet Deedat who has been dead for 17 years gave a detailed response to him, many others have too.


I will do further research on Ibn Ishaq's works and whether or not he talks about allat, uzzat and mannat (from where Rushdie takes the idea of the book).

But what i have come across on the internet are mostly exmuslim sources. So its not an easily accessible topic. If you do have links to share plz do so if you have the time. Thank you :)
 
That's just not reading in between the lines. Take atheists for example . As they don't believe in God and or Satan, so according to them the only conclusion is Prophet Muhammad was lying, wouldn't you say that's even more insulting than saying Prophet was deceived ? And will you demand bans on books on atheism?

You're confused.

Not believing or rejecting a dogma or challenging a belief is fine. The issue with this sick vile man was he intentionally wrote a book with very serious abusive attacks on religious figures which are lies and full of hate.

Btw im still waiting for you to prove
 
I will do further research on Ibn Ishaq's works and whether or not he talks about allat, uzzat and mannat (from where Rushdie takes the idea of the book).

But what i have come across on the internet are mostly exmuslim sources. So its not an easily accessible topic. If you do have links to share plz do so if you have the time. Thank you :)

I would first start with this lecture.

To all who want to know the truth about Rushdie and the rage from athiests/haters of Islam.

 
Just so that everyone is clear

1. We arent your servants here to sit all night and clean up threads because some cannot understand the concept of staying on topic
2. If more posts are deleted then some of you will be put on a restricted posters list

Read and understand above.

No need to reply to this post
 
Just watching BBC News and the apparently our culture secretary Nadine Dorries has described Rushdie as one of the great defenders of freedom of expression. It's not hard to imagine that you will get people on the other side who will think if that is your champion of freedom of speech, then there's the blowback.
 
Author Sir Salman Rushdie, who has faced death threats for his novel The Satanic Verses, has been stabbed "up to 15 times", including in the neck, while on stage at an event in New York state.

The Indian-born British author has been airlifted to hospital but his condition is not yet known. His agent said he is undergoing surgery.

The 75-year-old was about to give a lecture when a man stormed the stage at the Chautauqua Institution and began attacking Sir Salman as he was being introduced, according to witnesses.

The novelist, who became an American citizen in 2016, fell to the floor after the suspect reportedly punched or stabbed him 10 to 15 times. He was restrained and then arrested, and is now in custody.

Police said the interviewer at the event suffered a minor head injury after also being attacked.

Witness Julia Mineeva Braun told Sky News that as Sir Salman was being introduced "all of a sudden from the left-hand side of the stage a short man, (dressed) all in black, ran out and he approached Mr Rushdie".

"It was very quick... we thought he was fixing his microphone and then we saw the knife. He starting stabbing him in the neck first… and Mr Rushdie got up and started running. After that, people in the audience got up on stage and pinned the attacker down. It's hard to believe. We're still in shock."

New York governor Kathy Hochul said a state police officer saved the author's life and that of the moderator, who she said was also hurt.

Ms Hochul added: "He is alive, he has been airlifted to safety. But here is an individual who has spent decades speaking truth to power, someone who's been out there unafraid, despite the threats that have followed him his entire adult life."

A video posted online showed a number of people rushing on stage in the aftermath as Sir Salman was tended to.

A picture circulating on social media appeared to show Sir Salman with his legs slightly raised and someone applying pressure to his abdomen.

On stage there were two yellow chairs, a table and rug. Dozens of audience members were present during the incident.

In another video on Twitter, taken a number of rows back from the stage, a woman could be heard saying: "Hopefully they can save him because the first knife was right near his artery."

Jeremy Genovese, 68, from Beachwood, Ohio, said he arrived at the amphitheatre as it was being evacuated and that people were "streaming out".

He said: "People were in shock, many people in tears."

Sir Salman, who lives in New York City, was due to speak to Henry Reese, from the City of Asylum organisation, a residency programme for writers living in exile under threat of persecution.

They were expected to discuss America's role as an asylum for writers and other artists in exile and as a home for freedom of creative expression.

State police said in a statement they are "investigating an attack on author Salman Rushdie prior to a speaking event at the Chautauqua Institution in Chautauqua, NY".

"At about 11am, a male suspect ran up onto the stage and attacked Rushdie and an interviewer. Rushdie suffered an apparent stab wound to the neck, and was transported by helicopter to an area hospital."

They added: "The interviewer suffered a minor head injury. A State Trooper assigned to the event immediately took the suspect into custody. The Chautauqua County Sheriff's Office assisted at the scene."

The police statement gave no motive for the attack.

The Chautauqua Institution said it is "currently coordinating with law enforcement and emergency officials on a public response following today's attack of Salman Rushdie on the Chautauqua Amphitheater stage. We will provide more details as we know them".

His fourth book, The Satanic Verses, was banned in 1988 in a number countries with large Muslim populations, including Iran, after it was considered by some to contain blasphemous passages.

In 1989, Iran's then leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa, or edict, calling for Sir Salman's death.

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Judaism earned its protection.

Its people were once the most hated one in the world, especially in Europe.

They still are, if not then Muslims are the most hated in Europe.

Muslims now a race? Is that a yes from you?
 
This vile man isnt worth wasting time discussing.

Lets just hope they dont twist the motive of the attacker to suit their agendas esp the current anti-Iranian agenda Zionists want to portray.

Good luck to him in this life or the next.
 
What Rushdie deserves to be invited for ? What exactly has he achieved other than writing that infamous hateful book.
 
They still are, if not then Muslims are the most hated in Europe.

Muslims now a race? Is that a yes from you?

Of this will be the last post on this topic in this thread
[MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] note also.
 
What Rushdie deserves to be invited for ? What exactly has he achieved other than writing that infamous hateful book.

He has won many awards for his other books, including the Booker Prize and the “Best of Bookers” prize as well.
 
You're confused.

Not believing or rejecting a dogma or challenging a belief is fine. The issue with this sick vile man was he intentionally wrote a book with very serious abusive attacks on religious figures which are lies and full of hate.

Btw im still waiting for you to prove
The main objection against Satanic verses is that it portrays the prophet as being deceived by Satan right ? Now according to Islam the Quran is God's word which was relayed to the prophet by an angel of the Lord. It's not just what the prophet thought was the ideal philosophy or religion. If that was the case then atheists would, or for that matter many other religions would have been just challenging the belief. But as it is not just that, but according to prophet himself the Quran was relayed to him by Lord's angel, those differing believes will directly imply that they believe the prophet was a liar. For example this logic will not hold in case of followers of Confuscious or Mahavir Jain, because according to them they preached what they felt/thought was right. So challenging their believes are just challenging their philosophy/ thinking, but not saying they are liars.
 
This thread is NOT about the book Satanic Verses.

It is to discuss the fall out/reaction to this attack and keep ourselves upto date.

Stick to the political side and leave religious discussions out
 
This thread is NOT about the book Satanic Verses.

It is to discuss the fall out/reaction to this attack and keep ourselves upto date.

Stick to the political side and leave religious discussions out

Ok yes, let’s stick to this.
 
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