[VIDEO] Mir Hamza - How good is he?

[Madplayer]

16 runs of his 3rd over including 2 sixes.

15.6 Mir Hamza to Billings, SIX, short, down leg stump, absolute rubbish bowling, heaves it over square leg!

The Commentary man seems biased in favour of Zia ul Haq

[MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] [MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]

He is letting the fans down in all honesty. All bowlers in domestic seem to swing thr duke ball, pick up wickets and impress selectors but hand them a kookaburrah and they become useless.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

He is letting the fans down in all honesty. All bowlers in domestic seem to swing thr duke ball, pick up wickets and impress selectors but hand them a kookaburrah and they become useless.

But he was good with kookaburra in haier T20 cup. Swung it with control. Also bowled good yorkers at Death.

 

[pacesensation]

But he was good with kookaburra in haier T20 cup. Swung it with control. Also bowled good yorkers at Death.

He should have played all 5 t20s. I think jk did very bad not to play him in all t20s

 

[Madplayer]

But he was good with kookaburra in haier T20 cup. Swung it with control. Also bowled good yorkers at Death.

Yes, he can bowl good yorkers at death. i have seen it. But he was doing amazing things with the the ball a couple of years ago. His performances, although decent, have still gone a bit downhill. Maybe he is still adjusting to the kookaburrah. Only time will tell.

 

[Bullet Drive]

Sad news is will probs be out of contention for test spot based on poor t20 bowling....

 

[yasir]

No. If someone has no skill you can put them out of your mind and you will never be wrong. No matter how fast they will disappoint. See under Sami. It doesn't cut the same way with speed. Its silly to write them off because you do not think they are fast, because there is at least a chance they will do well. See Asif, Anderson, Philander, Southee, the late Lillee, or even the late Steyn, whose mostly mid to high 130s these days but still very useful.

Ultimate we all love to see bowlers who are both fast and skilled. Indeed the ability to harness speed, via variations in pace, etc, is a skill in its own right. But of the two, the one ingredient you cannot do without is control.

Echoing a recent post on this Board, I would say that the other, less talked about problem for some years has been a dearth of senior bowlers in the national outfit who are able to pass on skills to the junior ranks. Even someone as absurdly talented as Akram need to learn from Imran. And Akram was there to teach Akthar etc. In the current side, the senior statesmen of seam are...Wahab and Irfan. And Waqar, whatever his other merits - I can't see any but others insist he has them - has not been able to plug the gap.

You don't get my point. Bowling fast in itself is a skill, a very important one. Without extra pace you need to be very exceptional with your other skills to be great to ATG bowler, in last 30 years I have seen only 4 bowlers (McGrath, Ambrose, Pollack and Asif), who were not pacy but still great bowlers, but we have seen atleast 10-15(if not more), great bowlers who had pace (plus other skills)... Its very hard to be great bowler without pace. This is doubly hard for a asian bowler, most of the medium pace greats are from west, only Asif, Fazal, maybe Kapil were from asian in like 70-80 years.

Anderson, Broad, Vernon are not great bowlers in my books, they only had international career because of playing on green pitches, they are dud otherwise. Asian bowlers don't have that luxury. We need pace plus skills to thrive at international level.

My point is simple, if you are an asian bowler without pace, There is little to no hope for you. Pakistani producing trundlers is failed policy, India has not produce fast bowler in 70 years with that policy. We are going that route

 

[yasir]

Sad news is will probs be out of contention for test spot based on poor t20 bowling....

He is not good enough. Need to have extra pace (atleast 140 clicks) to be in the consideration. Why we need another trundler?? - Team is already full of them Imran, Rahat, Junaid, Gul, Sohail etc....

Pakistan is going no where with this trundling factory

We can only get back the bowling venom by producing env in domestic that encourages pace bowling, otherwise we will be like India and SL in a decade (if not already like them)

 

[zabalestmsm]

He is not good enough. Need to have extra pace (atleast 140 clicks) to be in the consideration. Why we need another trundler?? - Team is already full of them Imran, Rahat, Junaid, Gul, Sohail etc....

Pakistan is going no where with this trundling factory

We can only get back the bowling venom by producing env in domestic that encourages pace bowling, otherwise we will be like India and SL in a decade (if not already like them)

Pace is not must! Not everyone can bowl above 140 kph on average! Glenn McGrath in his last stage of career even took wickets with 128 kph! I am not comparing him with one of the best ever but still its a kind of an inspiration and means that pace is not everything!

 

[yasir]

Pace is not must! Not everyone can bowl above 140 kph on average! Glenn McGrath in his last stage of career even took wickets with 128 kph! I am not comparing him with one of the best ever but still its a kind of an inspiration and means that pace is not everything!

See my post #486 above, I hope you get the point.


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[zabalestmsm]

You don't get my point. Bowling fast in itself is a skill, a very important one. Without extra pace you need to be very exceptional with your other skills to be great to ATG bowler, in last 30 years I have seen only 4 bowlers (McGrath, Ambrose, Pollack and Asif), who were not pacy but still great bowlers, but we have seen atleast 10-15(if not more), great bowlers who had pace (plus other skills)... Its very hard to be great bowler without pace. This is doubly hard for a asian bowler, most of the medium pace greats are from west, only Asif, Fazal, maybe Kapil were from asian in like 70-80 years.

Hmmm! Valid! Lets see how he goes!

 

[New Yorker]

You don't get my point. Bowling fast in itself is a skill, a very important one. Without extra pace you need to be very exceptional with your other skills to be great to ATG bowler, in last 30 years I have seen only 4 bowlers (McGrath, Ambrose, Pollack and Asif), who were not pacy but still great bowlers, but we have seen atleast 10-15(if not more), great bowlers who had pace (plus other skills)... Its very hard to be great bowler without pace. This is doubly hard for a asian bowler, most of the medium pace greats are from west, only Asif, Fazal, maybe Kapil were from asian in like 70-80 years.

Anderson, Broad, Vernon are not great bowlers in my books, they only had international career because of playing on green pitches, they are dud otherwise. Asian bowlers don't have that luxury. We need pace plus skills to thrive at international level.

My point is simple, if you are an asian bowler without pace, There is little to no hope for you. Pakistani producing trundlers is failed policy, India has not produce fast bowler in 70 years with that policy. We are going that route

Your point seems quite complicated actually. Let me get this straight:

There is no hope without pace unless you have other skill but such other skills are very rare except for when they are not as in the case of some bowlers who are very good except they are not really good because of reasons for instance they only take wickets on green pitches except when they play in the UAE and then they also take wickets so really my argument is only about asian bowlers and unless someone looks likely to become one of the top ten bowlers in cricket history they are just not worth giving the time of day.

again, can you explain why selectors should dismiss out of hand say a lanky, manifestly talented medium pacer who comes to try out for the national team and might be the next asif or pollock? even if the chances are small, is there or is there not a chance? he's got pace, he ain't got pace a pity, but you won't know until your try.

finally; 1. pakistan right now would be so lucky to have an anderson, broad or philander. 2. is not argument

 

[Muhammad Saad]

You need to bowling b/w 135-140k atleat in order to become a successful international level bowler if not then you definitely need deadly accuracy with consistent outward/inward movement even on dead surfaces , otherwise you are dud.

 

[yasir]

Your point seems quite complicated actually. Let me get this straight:

There is no hope without pace unless you have other skill but such other skills are very rare except for when they are not as in the case of some bowlers who are very good except they are not really good because of reasons for instance they only take wickets on green pitches except when they play in the UAE and then they also take wickets so really my argument is only about asian bowlers and unless someone looks likely to become one of the top ten bowlers in cricket history they are just not worth giving the time of day.

again, can you explain why selectors should dismiss out of hand say a lanky, manifestly talented medium pacer who comes to try out for the national team and might be the next asif or pollock? even if the chances are small, is there or is there not a chance? he's got pace, he ain't got pace a pity, but you won't know until your try.

finally; 1. pakistan right now would be so lucky to have an anderson, broad or philander. 2. is not argument

Major difference between Styen and Anderson is speed. Anderson bowls at average speed of 130 or even below, where as Styen bowls at average speed of high 130s and even in 140s when he needs to crank it up. One is ATG and other is not. Steyn takes wickets everywhere has average of low 20s (only bowler in last decade or so), where as Anderson despite playing mainly on green wickets hover around 30 Average. If Anderson has extra 7-10 clicks of pace, he would have being like Styen. You just cannot discount the importance of speed.

There is a reason adjective "Fast" (or "Medium Fast") is used to describe bowler!!

You need to bowling b/w 135-140k atleat in order to become a successful international level bowler if not then you definitely need deadly accuracy with consistent outward/inward movement even on dead surfaces , otherwise you are dud.

That is the key, bowling at average pace of high 130s, not 1/2 balls an over but 75/80% of balls in every spell. Once you control the ball at that high speed, then the magic starts happening. Controlling line and length at 130ish is only good for FC not international. For that you have to crank it up!!

 

[New Yorker]

Major difference between Styen and Anderson is speed. Anderson bowls at average speed of 130 or even below, where as Styen bowls at average speed of high 130s and even in 140s when he needs to crank it up. One is ATG and other is not. Steyn takes wickets everywhere has average of low 20s (only bowler in last decade or so), where as Anderson despite playing mainly on green wickets hover around 30 Average. If Anderson has extra 7-10 clicks of pace, he would have being like Styen. You just cannot discount the importance of speed.

There is a reason adjective "Fast" (or "Medium Fast") is used to describe bowler!!





That is the key, bowling at average pace of high 130s, not 1/2 balls an over but 75/80% of balls in every spell. Once you control the ball at that high speed, then the magic starts happening. Controlling line and length at 130ish is only good for FC not international. For that you have to crank it up!!

Steyn is better than Anderson, but Anderson is still very very good. Pakistan does not have a bowler of his calibre right now. But why can we only talk about ATGs?

The question is not whether pace is useful, the question is: can a bowler be very good who only has moderate pace, like Anderson, or if you want the example of an ATG, Pollock? The fact that I can actually name examples here means of course that the answer is yes. It is absurd to state flatly, as some have done, that no bowler deserves a chance who does not have a certain minimum speed. We would never have seen Asif on the international stage if this were the case.

 

[AZ]

watching him at length now, looks quite average.

not quick and very lethargic run-up, can't get the ball to move on a pitch where Ehsan Adil is looking like McGrath.

 

[axl100mph]

Seems inferior to :ehsan

 

[iiqbal]

Need a lots of work. Even not close to junaid khan

 

[m.shah]

Unable to take any wicket

 

[AZ]

bowled a bit better from Ehsan's end with the new ball, put some effort in it.

is quite accurate, but that is about it.

 

[b.lesner]

At what pace he was bowling?

 

[hur rizvi]

Disappointed with him based on PSL, but he should get chances in his stronger format which is FC in A-team tours

 

[hur rizvi]

At what pace he was bowling?

130-32 kph

 

[shah_1]

He needs to increase his pace

This is just gentle medium pace from him.

 

[yasir]

Just a terrible bowler, I don't want to see him even in A/B/C team... He is just a shame, too slow, toothless, should be kicked out of PSL, does not belong to this league

Same is true of Raees

 

[Syed1]

Another one being a product of the hype brigade.. only a couple of months ago PP'ers were falling over each other trying to proclaim how he is the second coming of Wasim and Waqar rolled into one

 

[shah_1]

130-32 kph

128-129

 

[Mamoon]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

 

[hur rizvi]

128-129

Didnt see his bowling today, In last match he played he was around 130-32

 

[hur rizvi]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

Boult at present cant be rated higher than Amir. On stats yes but not on their present bowling pace and skills. Jury is out we will know who is better in next few months. In ODIs in NZ Amir clearly looked better

 

[Yanna_Rascala]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

Bus kar de tu

 

[shah_1]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

We are in a bad state but one shouldn't be so pessimistic

 

[Mamoon]

Boult at present cant be rated higher than Amir. On stats yes but not on their present bowling pace and skills. Jury is out we will know who is better in next few months. In ODIs in NZ Amir clearly looked better

Boult is regaining his form though.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

Mamoon Bussssssssssss

 

[Mamoon]

Let's be real. Shami, Yadav and Mustafiz are better than our current pacers.

However, let's see if Shami is still the same bowler after his lengthy injury lay-off.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Boult is regaining his form though.

On which plannet ?

Yes Junaid has regained his form now whether the kink is under 15 degrees or not this is something I don't know.

 

[hur rizvi]

Boult is regaining his form though.

Amir is the better package in current condition. Even today I saw boult bowling 130 kph and didnt get any extra ordinary swing either.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Disappointed with him based on PSL, but he should get chances in his stronger format which is FC in A-team tours

Now he will be down in the pecking order with Shehzad Azam, Mohammad Abbass, Ehsan Adil, Sadaf Hussain & Hasan Ali all ahead of him in terms of last QEA trophy performances plus Speeds aswell.

 

[shah_1]

Let's be real. Shami, Yadav and Mustafiz are better than our current pacers.

However, let's see if Shami is still the same bowler after his lengthy injury lay-off.

Do you even watch Yadav recently in Australia? One of the worst bowling display. This guy averages 33 with an ECON of 6 in ODI.

Pathetic post lol

 

[Hamza_]

Mamoon Bhai over does it with pessimissim at times.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you even watch Yadav recently in Australia? One of the worst bowling display. This guy averages 33 with an ECON of 6 in ODI.

Pathetic post lol

Wahab with similar figures is hyped as a legend. Yadav makes our team in my opinion.

 

[Mamoon]

On which plannet ?

Yes Junaid has regained his form now whether the kink is under 15 degrees or not this is something I don't know.

Not watching the current series, but he looked better in the Pakistan series, of course still not there and it will take time.

Junaid is a chucker.

 

[hur rizvi]

Not watching the current series, but he looked better in the Pakistan series, of course still not there and it will take time.

Junaid is a chucker.

You are guaging your opinion on no of wickets he took. He didnt really trouble our top order and that says a lot about the quality at which he is operating now.

 

[Mamoon]

You are guaging your opinion on no of wickets he took. He didnt really trouble our top order and that says a lot about the quality at which he is operating now.

Not on number of wickets, but his bowling looked the best it has looked post-injury, so it means that he is on his way back now.

 

[Syed1]

Mamoon Bhai over does it with pessimissim at times.

"Over does" is an understatement

 

[shah_1]

Wahab with similar figures is hyped as a legend. Yadav makes our team in my opinion.

Yadav is not better than Wahab or Amir but over Anwar Ali for sure.

Our ODI team is pathetic

but Asad Shafiq, Azhar, Harris( if he is fit), Babar Azam, Sarfraz, Yasir Shah and Amir give me me high hopes that we can form a decent test side after Misbah and Younis retirement.

 

[srh]

Mir Hamza is pretty good prospect for Test cricket. Has the ability to move ball both ways and will 1 day play for Pakistan Test team insha Allah. Should stay away from LOIs.

 

[Yanna_Rascala]

You are guaging your opinion on no of wickets he took. He didnt really trouble our top order and that says a lot about the quality at which he is operating now.

Not on number of wickets, but his bowling looked the best it has looked post-injury, so it means that he is on his way back now.

I can always expect you to underrate Pakistanis and overrate indians. malcolm yadav and kumar are your favourites and ishant sharma is the next Joel Garner according to you. Then you wonder why people accuse you of being anti-Pakistan and a closet indian.

 

[Mamoon]

People can accuse of what they like, it is their right.

 

[ChachaCricket]

There are better options but he will be very good on seaming tracks in England/SA/NZ in tests. He was never rated as an LOI bowler.

 

[Saj]

Limited chances. Whenever I watched him bowl he bowled with decent pace and aggression.

You cant judge a bowler on a over or two here and there when a match is lost.

 

[srh]

Limited chances. Whenever I watched him bowl he bowled with decent pace and aggression.

You cant judge a bowler on a over or two here and there when a match is lost.

He should not be playing T20 cricket to be honest. He is needed in the most important format which is Test cricket. Thats where he has the talent to shine. I would not want to waste his talent for tamasha cricket.

 

[AlphaFighter]

Based on what i have seen, if this guy is picking up wickets for fun in our domestic cricket then it shows to what pitfalls it has fallen. Not international standard at all IMO.

 

[cricfan14]

He should not be playing T20 cricket to be honest. He is needed in the most important format which is Test cricket. Thats where he has the talent to shine. I would not want to waste his talent for tamasha cricket.

The problem is we transplant success and failures to all forms, ALWAYS. We don't have Test-only bowlers, or T20 only players.

 

[BuccalSingh]

So Sadaf was lucky to have missed the T20, had he played he would have probably fared similar to other two.

 

[m.shah]

He is not suitable for t20

 

[#GreenRoars]

So, people declared him rubbish on the basis of some highly standard PSL matches??

 

[New Yorker]

So Sadaf was lucky to have missed the T20, had he played he would have probably fared similar to other two.

It's very telling how Hamza's case is being misinterpreted. His domestic limited overs numbers are somewhere between mediocre and bad. He averages 30. That his stats in the PSL are bad therefore does not suggest that the domestic system is necessarily a poor gauge of ability. The problem is that people use the wrong domestic stats, confusing FC for LA. I can't say for certain that Sadaf, LA ave 17 would have done better than Hamza but I can say with absolutely certainty that the likelihood is greater.

 

[BigBoy123]

Nothing special..

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[Prince of Pakistan]

Poor man's Junaid Khan who is poor man's Amir who is poor man's Boult.

Pakistan cricket is a mess, we are finished and the future looks terrible. India and Bangladesh produce better pacer's than us.

On the basis of one T20? Really? Guy was amazing in the FC circuit on dead tracks.

 

[Mamoon]

On the basis of one T20? Really? Guy was amazing in the FC circuit on dead tracks.

He has looked innocuous every time I have seen him play on flat wickets in domestic matches. Less penetrative than someone like Junaid.

I don't see the purpose of getting overexcited on a few good spells in England.

Even if he does well in a place like England or South Africa where we tour once in 5 years, what's the point?

I hope he improves but he serves no purpose unless he can learn to be more penetrative on the flat Asian wickets.

Speaking of F/C record, someone like Hammad Azam who is an inferior bowler to Ravi Bopara averages like 19.

 

[Saj]

I don't see the purpose of getting overexcited on a few good spells in England.

Nobody is getting overexcited, but I do see the usual wrist slitting and negativity from some.

 

[saadsahabjee]

He should take lesson from sadaf hussain's life and try to quit pak team asap and apply for english , sa or nz team .There is no place for a talented bowler like him in Pak team .

 

[emranabbas]

Can't really judge him based on 1 decent outing not like he ran through the English team. Just played well

 

[JibranAnsari]

A very exciting bowler , someone who can swing the ball both ways. Less than impressive lately in t20s and 50 overs cricket though.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

The Success of Left Arm Medium Fast Mir Hamza with the Duke Ball in England proves that Sadaf Hussain would have succeeded as well and deserved to be picked for atleast Pakistan A if not Pakistan Test Team.

Mir Hamza and Sadaf both have exactly the same bowling Speed where Sadaf has slighly better Fc record than Mir.


Bilawal Bhatti performed the best in Qea final and got picked whereas otherwise he would not have been picked. And personally i do not rate Azizullah. He is medium fast seamer and does not get decent bounce.


Waqas Ahmed, Ali Imran Pasha, Shehzad Azam Rana, Ehsan Adil, Amad Butt & Mohammad Asif all are better right arm Fast Medium and Medium fast bowlers than Azizullah and Bilawal Bhatti in 4 day format.


I hope Inzamam gets rid of Azizullah & Wayward Bhatti sooooonnnn.

 

[Hasan123]

If Wahab,rahat,sohail flop on the England Mir Hamza could replace them for the Australia and new Zealand tour. Arthur will be aware of Mir as he coached him in PSL.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

^^

Hasan Australian & New Zealand Flat batting wickets wont suit Mir Hamza.

We need tall fast medium or fast bowlers there. Somebody like Amad Butt and Ali Imran Pasha on those surfaces along with Amir, Wahab & may be Rahat. Hasan also would be better but he is short. Plus If Asif performs well in fc season start than On any seam/swing friendly wicket he will be gold along with Amir.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

If Wahab,rahat,sohail flop on the England Mir Hamza could replace them for the Australia and new Zealand tour. Arthur will be aware of Mir as he coached him in PSL.

Arthur was the coach of Karachi kings while Mir Hamza was in Islamabad United who were coached by Dean Jones so I think you've got the coaches mixed up bro. On topic, I think Miro; if he performs well during the English tour should be given a shout out to whenever we tour next overseas.

Him along with with Hassan and Amad look quite promising to be honest.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

^^

Hasan Australian & New Zealand Flat batting wickets wont suit Mir Hamza.

We need tall fast medium or fast bowlers there. Somebody like Amad Butt and Ali Imran Pasha on those surfaces along with Amir, Wahab & may be Rahat. Hasan also would be better but he is short. Plus If Asif performs well in fc season start than On any seam/swing friendly wicket he will be gold along with Amir.

Bro if I am not mistaken Miro is apparently 6'2-6'3ish. That's ample of height for a fast bowler operating down under.

 

[Hasan123]

Arthur was the coach of Karachi kings while Mir Hamza was in Islamabad United who were coached by Dean Jones so I think you've got the coaches mixed up bro. On topic, I think Miro; if he performs well during the English tour should be given a shout out to whenever we tour next overseas.

Him along with with Hassan and Amad look quite promising to be honest.

Bro I am an Islamabad United fan and Miro never played for us I am certain of that. Our fast bowlers were Sami ruman raees irfan and we used ajmal khalid and badree as spinners.

Hassan Ali is slightly ahead but Mir has done well on this tour. Can also remember him doing well on Sri Lanka a tour last year as well.

 

[Adil Bhai]

Arthur was the coach of Karachi kings while Mir Hamza was in Islamabad United who were coached by Dean Jones so I think you've got the coaches mixed up bro. On topic, I think Miro; if he performs well during the English tour should be given a shout out to whenever we tour next overseas.

Him along with with Hassan and Amad look quite promising to be honest.

Mir Hamza played for Karachi Kings bro

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[ahmedwaqas92]

Bro I am an Islamabad United fan and Miro never played for us I am certain of that. Our fast bowlers were Sami ruman raees irfan and we used ajmal khalid and badree as spinners.

Hassan Ali is slightly ahead but Mir has done well on this tour. Can also remember him doing well on Sri Lanka a tour last year as well.

Mir Hamza played for Karachi Kings bro

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Sorry guys....Bloody hell I confused Ruman Raes with Miro I should drown myself in chulu bhar pani to be honest

You guys are correct

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Bro if I am not mistaken Miro is apparently 6'2-6'3ish. That's ample of height for a fast bowler operating down under.

He is a swing bowler and is medium fast. Consider flat surfaces. If there is a surface which aids swing than he should come in otherwise look at NZ pacers performance in Tests in Aus.

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[#GreenRoars]

Sorry guys....Bloody hell I confused Ruman Raes with Miro I should drown myself in chulu bhar pani to be honest

You guys are correct

I was about to reply, but saw your this comment

Rumman Raees is nothing special, forget it.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

Bro I am an Islamabad United fan and Miro never played for us I am certain of that. Our fast bowlers were Sami ruman raees irfan and we used ajmal khalid and badree as spinners.

Hassan Ali is slightly ahead but Mir has done well on this tour. Can also remember him doing well on Sri Lanka a tour last year as well.

I was about to reply, but saw your this comment

Rumman Raees is nothing special, forget it.

Clearly I am way up past bed time it's almost 2:00 am right now..... Cognitive functions are slowing down for the days.

On topic it's good that Miro is stepping up into international cricket with good performances in A tours. An added fast bowler to the existing talented line up would be more than welcoming. However, since we already have a vast band of existing left arm bowlers what Pakistan needs more is for Hassan or Amad Butt to develop quickly and stake their claim in internationals.

 

[Hasan123]

^^

Hasan Australian & New Zealand Flat batting wickets wont suit Mir Hamza.

We need tall fast medium or fast bowlers there. Somebody like Amad Butt and Ali Imran Pasha on those surfaces along with Amir, Wahab & may be Rahat. Hasan also would be better but he is short. Plus If Asif performs well in fc season start than On any seam/swing friendly wicket he will be gold along with Amir.

I think he could do well in new zeeland but he could struggle in Australia but it's always good to have some variety in your attack.

If Asif can do well he should be in contention. You have talked about Ali Imran a lot. Is inzi aware of him

 

[New Yorker]

The Success of Left Arm Medium Fast Mir Hamza with the Duke Ball in England proves that Sadaf Hussain would have succeeded as well and deserved to be picked for atleast Pakistan A if not Pakistan Test Team.

Mir Hamza and Sadaf both have exactly the same bowling Speed where Sadaf has slighly better Fc record than Mir.


Bilawal Bhatti performed the best in Qea final and got picked whereas otherwise he would not have been picked. And personally i do not rate Azizullah. He is medium fast seamer and does not get decent bounce.


Waqas Ahmed, Ali Imran Pasha, Shehzad Azam Rana, Ehsan Adil, Amad Butt & Mohammad Asif all are better right arm Fast Medium and Medium fast bowlers than Azizullah and Bilawal Bhatti in 4 day format.


I hope Inzamam gets rid of Azizullah & Wayward Bhatti sooooonnnn.

And unlike Mir Sadaf has extraordinary LA stats. I bet Mir gets selected for one or two ODIs this tour. The format for which he is no good. Following which a chorus of PPers will again point out how domestic performance counts for nothing.

 

[New Yorker]

I think he could do well in new zeeland but he could struggle in Australia but it's always good to have some variety in your attack.

If Asif can do well he should be in contention. You have talked about Ali Imran a lot. Is inzi aware of him

I know of a tall bowler known for getting bounce, who can also swing it both ways, and averages 18-19 in FC cricket. Guess the name.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

He is a swing bowler and is medium fast. Consider flat surfaces. If there is a surface which aids swing than he should come in otherwise look at NZ pacers performance in Tests in Aus.

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No matter how good a bowler is, if he bowls without a strategy or direction then he's gonna get phantified left, right and center and I believe that was the case with NZ bowlers - they have no direction or plan to their bowling unit.

Miro under the wing of Amir, an extremely clever bowler himself, and other experience players such and Misbah and YK would be given a proper role and direction which could help him churn out performances better than the NZ bowlers.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

And unlike Mir Sadaf has extraordinary LA stats. I bet Mir gets selected for one or two ODIs this tour. The format for which he is no good. Following which a chorus of PPers will again point out how domestic performance counts for nothing.

Well Willey who is again medium fast swing bowler has been successful in England in Odis but you are right Mir's strongest format is Fc and i don't think he should be selected for Odi series because he has an ordinary list A record.

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