[VIDEO/PICTURE] Quinton de Kock's role in Fakhar Zaman's run-out in the 2nd ODI

[marlonbrowndo]

Do De Kock cheat to get Fakhar Run out in the last over?

Not that we would have won the game, but that was extremely dirty from De Kock and obviously deliberate based on his reaction afterwards.

Nevertheless, he wasn’t smiling like that when he single handedly lost his team the 2015 World Cup Semi Final against New Zealand by missing an easy run out of Corey Anderson. And I’d like to see him smile the next time he chokes in a tournament knockout

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fakhar Zaman very sporting regarding his run out "The fault was mine as I was too busy looking out for Haris as I felt he'd started off a little late from his crease, so I thought he was in trouble. The rest is up to the match referee, I don't think it's Quinton's fault" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SAvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SAvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1378758076371759115?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2021</a></blockquote>
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[Markhor]

One of our guys should pull a Mankad in the next game.

However don't expect any retaliation from our softies.

 

[Rayyman]

He was smiling because he is leaving his country to go to India now.

 

[z2_daredevil]

Lol that wasnt cheating, just smart cricket with tired Fakhar.

Remember Sanga did it to Shehzad althought it wasnt a wicket but still pretty embarrassing.

 

[Titan24]

Not sure what the laws say about it but, it was definitely poor from QDK.

 

[Mean&Green]

Lol man it’s all good wouldn’t have changed anything

 

[Hasan123]

It was cheating from De Kock. He was trying to fool Fakhar and luckily for him it worked.

 

[Mesozoic]

No cheating at all...

But the way he pointed at Fakhar and laughed was just disgusting on so many levels. I have now lost all the respect I had for QDK.

 

[b.lesner]

Also 1 ball got dropped on hat on Bavuma when he dropped the catch robbed of 5 runs

 

[King_Kohli]

Nothing wrong.

Sanga did many times.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Nah, this was not cheating. It was just ugly and maybe a bit embarrassing considering the way game was going at that point.

That laugh was a bit uncalled for tho.

Anyways, what an innings, such a pity it was a in a losing cause!

 

[bahadur_billa]

Yeah it's fake fielding. When Sanga did it there was no rule of fake fielding at that time. This rule has been added recently. 5 runs penalty for it.

 

[Firebat]

Perhaps the run out was lawful, but the reaction from de Kock is out of order. I don't like that at all. The guy has just hit the highest 2nd innings ODI score in history against you. You should be running up to give him a handshake, not pointing and cackling at him.

 

[Major]

Nope it was not cheating. It was a smart move by QDK.

In other sports we see such things, stop crying over such small issues.

Anyways, Fakhar couldnt pull 30 of 5 balls, match was lost. Only thing QDK stole here was his 200.

 

[Noman]

Genius - it’s not cheating

 

[Snowflake]

Smart move! Glad Fakhar didn't break Anwar's record - if you're that silly, you do not deserve any such records.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Perhaps the run out was lawful, but the reaction from de Kock is out of order. I don't like that at all. The guy has just hit the highest 2nd innings ODI score against you. You should be running up to give him a handshake, not pointing and cackling at him.

It's pretty lawful. I've seen Dhoni do the same trick. But yea the laughing part was pretty distasteful.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

He wasn’t smiling like that when he single handedly lost his team the 2015 World Cup Semi Final against New Zealand by missing an easy run out of Corey Anderson. And I’d like to see him smile the next time he chokes in a tournament knockout

 

[Snowflake]

Perhaps the run out was lawful, but the reaction from de Kock is out of order. I don't like that at all. The guy has just hit the highest 2nd innings ODI score in history against you. You should be running up to give him a handshake, not pointing and cackling at him.

Agreed. It didn't look good.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

It's perfectly fine.

Tempers are a bit high at the moment, but give it time. There's no issue here.

 

[IAJ]

Disgusting stuff, especially the way he was laughing at Fakhar. That was the only way they could get him out today.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Inshallah De Kock keeps choking and his team never wins a knockout game when he is in the squad. Baby faced despicable cricketer

 

[ElRaja]

fakhars fault for falling for it, regardless of where the balls going if ur running a quick two shd have gone full pace to make it home

 

[Baigel]

As per ICC rules - deliberate distraction, obstruction or deception by word or action is unfair

Don’t see how the dismissal is legal.

Also, we should’ve gotten 5 runs when the ball hit Bavumas hat

 

[Major]

He wasn’t smiling like that when he single handedly lost his team the 2015 World Cup Semi Final against New Zealand by missing an easy run out of Corey Anderson. And I’d like to see him smile the next time he chokes in a tournament knockout

so?

He is smilling today while defeating us in a match.

 

[Golden arm]

Disgusting stuff, especially the way he was laughing at Fakhar. That was the only way they could get him out today.

Shameful and now the law about fake fielding has come in, he should be repreminded. It was absolutely disgusting and not in the spirit of the game. SA were already on way to it but such cheap tactic to get him out was not a good jesture.

 

[IAJ]

fakhars fault for falling for it, regardless of where the balls going if ur running a quick two shd have gone full pace to make it home

Yes it was his fault, but he was there for nearly 100 overs, mind get’s tired so he was lured by that idiot.

 

[ARK Rafay]

As per ICC rules - deliberate distraction, obstruction or deception by word or action is unfair

Don’t see how the dismissal is legal.

Also, we should’ve gotten 5 runs when the ball hit Bavumas hat

Home Umpires bias, perhaps?

 

[Kroll]

Inshallah De Kock keeps choking and his team never wins a knockout game when he is in the squad. Baby faced despicable cricketer

Hope the ugly little runt fails miserably in the hate league.

 

[IMMY69]

As per ICC rules - deliberate distraction, obstruction or deception by word or action is unfair

Don’t see how the dismissal is legal.

Also, we should’ve gotten 5 runs when the ball hit Bavumas hat

This ^^^

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Nope it was not cheating. It was a smart move by QDK.

In other sports we see such things, stop crying over such small issues.

Anyways, Fakhar couldnt pull 30 of 5 balls, match was lost. Only thing QDK stole here was his 200.

Smart move! Glad Fakhar didn't break Anwar's record - if you're that silly, you do not deserve any such records.

It's perfectly fine.

Tempers are a bit high at the moment, but give it time. There's no issue here.

fakhars fault for falling for it, regardless of where the balls going if ur running a quick two shd have gone full pace to make it home

Whether or not the dismissal was smart or not is besides the point. The fact is that it was illegal as per rules.

Umpires (who were sleeping) should have awarded Pakistan 5 penalty runs

https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/unfair-play#:~:text=41.5.,obstruction is wilful or not.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

so?

He is smilling today while defeating us in a match.

What’s your point? This match doesn’t mean anything compared to some games where he’s failed miserably. Next time you post something you should think about whether you’re just talking for the sake of talking

 

[Indiafan]

This is the new ICC rules

According to ICC Law 41.5.1 it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

Clearly against rules

 

[Savak]

Most teams congratulate and shake hands with a guy scoring so many runs. Definitely poor stuff from QDK to point, mock a player like that

 

[Major]

Whether or not the dismissal was smart or not is besides the point. The fact is that it was illegal as per ICC Rules.

Umpires (who were sleeping) should have awarded Pakistan 5 penalty runs

https://www.lords.org/mcc/the-laws-of-cricket/unfair-play#:~:text=41.5.,obstruction is wilful or not.

I see nothing unfair in what QDK did.

He took advantage of a situation thats it. Fakhar shouldn't had turned his head back

 

[Saj]

Regarding fielding the rules say this:

Law 41.5. 1 states that “it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.” If the umpires deem an attempt to deceive has taken place, they inform both captains and award five penalty runs to the batting side.

 

[Markhor]

I don't know what the legalities are, whether QDK should've been penalised or not, but the non-reaction from the Pakistan dressing room was embarrassing and sums up our loser mentality.

For all his sins, Mickey would've gone into the Match Referee's room. Javed Miandad would've said something.

Whether the situation was winnable is irrelevant, you FIGHT your corner. You FIGHT for your country to the very last ball. And it's not meaningless - have we learned nothing from 2019 World Cup when our NRR destroyed our qualification chances ?

 

[Titan24]

So Fakhar should have been not out and even should have gotten 5 runs. Even the runs by ball hitting the hat were missed by umpire.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

I don't know what the legalities are, whether QDK should've been penalised or not, but the non-reaction from the Pakistan dressing room was embarrassing and sums up our loser mentality.

For all his sins, Mickey would've gone into the Match Referee's room. Javed Miandad would've said something.

Whether the situation was winnable is irrelevant, you FIGHT your corner. You FIGHT for your country to the very last ball. And it's not meaningless - have we learned nothing from 2019 World Cup when our NRR destroyed our qualification chances ?

It’s Misbah. He won’t mind. He’s focused on how he can squeeze in Asif Ali for the 3rd ODI

 

[Hasan123]

This is the new ICC rules

According to ICC Law 41.5.1 it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

Clearly against rules

So it’s against the rules, just as I thought. Blatant cheating. He should get a punishment from the ICC.

 

[Finisher]

You dont see doesnt change the fact it is against the laws of cricket

 

[anakwalajinn]

Smart move! Glad Fakhar didn't break Anwar's record - if you're that silly, you do not deserve any such records.

He broke it already in 2018:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...we-vs-pakistan-4th-odi-1142923/full-scorecard

 

[Kroll]

I don't know what the legalities are, whether QDK should've been penalised or not, but the non-reaction from the Pakistan dressing room was embarrassing and sums up our loser mentality.

For all his sins, Mickey would've gone into the Match Referee's room. Javed Miandad would've said something.

Whether the situation was winnable is irrelevant, you FIGHT your corner. You FIGHT for your country to the very last ball. And it's not meaningless - have we learned nothing from 2019 World Cup when our NRR destroyed our qualification chances ?

This is what you'd expect from loser mentality Misbah. Miandad would have decked the little wet wipe with his bat if he laughed at him.

 

[IAJ]

I don't know what the legalities are, whether QDK should've been penalised or not, but the non-reaction from the Pakistan dressing room was embarrassing and sums up our loser mentality.

For all his sins, Mickey would've gone into the Match Referee's room. Javed Miandad would've said something.

Whether the situation was winnable is irrelevant, you FIGHT your corner. You FIGHT for your country to the very last ball. And it's not meaningless - have we learned nothing from 2019 World Cup when our NRR destroyed our qualification chances ?

Even Fakhar didn’t react, seemed like he was only disappointed in himself. We don’t have characters like Kohli anymore, he would have a real go at that Quinton ( he would probably not have been fooled either)

 

[ARK Rafay]

I'm just curious to know if there was no one in the management who knew about this rule and if someone went after the match referee to inquire about this incident when Fakhar got out.

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Smart move! Glad Fakhar didn't break Anwar's record - if you're that silly, you do not deserve any such records.

He already holds the record

 

[Civil]

Darn if it's against the rules, definitely should be fined. And hopefully this gets publicized

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I see nothing unfair in what QDK did.

He took advantage of a situation thats it. Fakhar shouldn't had turned his head back

Do you have trouble reading? The laws clearly state that what he did was illegal. He clearly tried to mislead him by pointing in the other direction. That's illegal and carries 5 penalty runs.

 

[IMMY69]

So it’s against the rules, just as I thought. Blatant cheating. He should get a punishment from the ICC.

Yep. But I wonder if our management even knew about this law?

They all need education, management to players.
If they knew the laws then Fakhar could have taken it into his own hands by referring the decision and forcing the issue.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Also important to note that Pakistan should have gotten 5 penalty runs when Bavuma dropped the catch and the ball hit his hat.

Absolute schoolboy stuff from the clearly untrained South African umpires.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I wouldn't mind if he was doing it to win the game, but it was already in the bag and it denied Fakhar a well deserved double hundred. A slimy act but Fakhar himself should have been less naive. Maybe he was just too tired to be on his guard though.

 

[Titan24]

Also important to note that Pakistan should have gotten 5 penalty runs when Bavuma dropped the catch and the ball hit his hat.

Absolute schoolboy stuff from the clearly untrained South African umpires.

In total 10 runs which Pak could have gotten as per cricket laws were missed. Definitely pretty unaware umpiring.

 

[Firebat]

Regarding fielding the rules say this:

Law 41.5. 1 states that “it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.” If the umpires deem an attempt to deceive has taken place, they inform both captains and award five penalty runs to the batting side.

Clearly illegal then. He wilfully distracted and deceived by word.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

This is the new ICC rules

According to ICC Law 41.5.1 it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

Clearly against rules

Oh wow, I did not know that. Wow

 

[IMMY69]

I wouldn't mind if he was doing it to win the game, but it was already in the bag and it denied Fakhar a well deserved double hundred. A slimy act but Fakhar himself should have been less naive. Maybe he was just too tired to be on his guard though.

He was knackered mate
It's the umpires and then the third umpire who should have halted the game and taken the correct decision.

I doubt Fakhar even knows about the rules

 

[Saurav]

Its not cheating

He was just pointing the fielder to throw it at bowler's end.Upto Fakhar to not rely on it and try to make his end as quick as possible

 

[mon858]

More frustrating thing is poor umpiring and also lack of game awareness on our players/mgmt. We should have had 11 runs less. 5 for hat, 5 for this penalty, 1 not run out. Fakhar should have protested or mgmt should have sent him back.

 

[moghul]

Regarding fielding the rules say this:

Law 41.5. 1 states that “it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.” If the umpires deem an attempt to deceive has taken place, they inform both captains and award five penalty runs to the batting side.

I thought it was not cheating and was smart cricket but looking at the laws, Quintin did exactly what is clearly declared unfair in Law 41.5. . He definitely distracted and deceived FZ here.

FZ also being dumb here. I wanted to see him scoring 200, he missed once in a life time chance.

 

[Last Monetarist]

I don't know what the legalities are, whether QDK should've been penalised or not, but the non-reaction from the Pakistan dressing room was embarrassing and sums up our loser mentality.

For all his sins, Mickey would've gone into the Match Referee's room. Javed Miandad would've said something.

Whether the situation was winnable is irrelevant, you FIGHT your corner. You FIGHT for your country to the very last ball. And it's not meaningless - have we learned nothing from 2019 World Cup when our NRR destroyed our qualification chances ?

They definitely were not aware of the law.

 

[Titan24]

Its not cheating

He was just pointing the fielder to throw it at bowler's end.Upto Fakhar to not rely on it and try to make his end as quick as possible

He pointed when throw was already coming towards his end. It was intentional and this against the laws of cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

Smart play by QdK.

Our fans are always crying and playing victim. It is our tradition.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Smart play by QdK.

Our fans are always crying and playing victim. It is our tradition.

Find one word in the OP where it sounds like I’m playing victim? There’s no conspiracy here. It’s just a slimy individual action

 

[IAJ]

Smart play by QdK.

Our fans are always crying and playing victim. It is our tradition.

You will hardly find more balanced fans that Pakistanis.

And if you say what Quinton did was fair play, you are really stupid, I am afraid.

 

[ARK Rafay]

Absolute schoolboy stuff from the clearly untrained South African umpires.

Marais Erasmus has been umpiring for over a decade now. Looks bias from the Umpires to me.

 

[Mamoon]

You will hardly find more balanced fans that Pakistanis.

Joke of the century.

 

[Firebat]

Its not cheating

He was just pointing the fielder to throw it at bowler's end.Upto Fakhar to not rely on it and try to make his end as quick as possible

Seriously? The throw was about to reach him. And then he started laughing at Fakhar and pointing as if to say "haha I got you".

 

[Major]

Do you have trouble reading? The laws clearly state that what he did was illegal. He clearly tried to mislead him by pointing in the other direction. That's illegal and carries 5 penalty runs.

The law is for deliberatingcheating while fielding.

Regardingthe pointing thing, there is much ambuigity, take it to match referee and qdk can give any reason he want and be cleared.

Anyways, people will find reasons to cry over a non issue.

Other sports have such thinga going on. In cricket of something like this happens we end crying like there is no tomr

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Smart play by QdK.

Our fans are always crying and playing victim. It is our tradition.

I thought so to, until I find out it's actually a law that you can't do that.

 

[Mamoon]

Find one word in the OP where it sounds like I’m playing victim? There’s no conspiracy here. It’s just a slimy individual action

If you are calling this cheating, you are playing victim. How on earth is this cheating? He did not break any rules.

Fakhar’s job is to get to the crease as quickly as possible and not focus on what the WK is doing.

For the record, I am not against Mankading either, but this is actually less slimy in comparison.

 

[Zaz]

I'm just curious to know if there was no one in the management who knew about this rule and if someone went after the match referee to inquire about this incident when Fakhar got out.

At the very least they shouldve found out what the rules is and made a retrospective complaint

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Smart play by QdK.

Our fans are always crying and playing victim. It is our tradition.

Some fans play victim, some are very knowledgeable and that's what makes this a great site which keeps you coming back. Don't make stupid generalisations, it only damages your own credibility.

 

[ARK Rafay]

If you are calling this cheating, you are playing victim. How on earth is this cheating? He did not break any rules.

Fakhar’s job is to get to the crease as quickly as possible and not focus on what the WK is doing.

For the record, I am not against Mankading either, but this is actually less slimy in comparison.

According to ICC Law 41.5.1 it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

 

[Mamoon]

I thought so to, until I find out it's actually a law that you can't do that.

What is the law? Can you please quote it?

And if such a law exists, it is a stupid one and should scrapped.

I really enjoyed what he did. It was so smart.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

He's a peasant. Shame he'll never win a trophy.

 

[Saurav]

Seriously? The throw was about to reach him. And then he started laughing at Fakhar and pointing as if to say "haha I got you".

Why should Fakhar care where QDK is pointing?He should try to make his end regardless

Yes laughing bit is avoidable.But if I won a tight game I'd be laughing too

 

[marlonbrowndo]

If you are calling this cheating, you are playing victim. How on earth is this cheating? He did not break any rules.

Fakhar’s job is to get to the crease as quickly as possible and not focus on what the WK is doing.

For the record, I am not against Mankading either, but this is actually less slimy in comparison.

Let’s forget about my thoughts on this for a moment. In general, not every case of complaining about or pointing out cheating is playing victim. Playing victim would be saying an individual cheated and was allowed to get away with it because it’s against Pakistan. Or we only lost because that individual cheated. Etc

 

[Mamoon]

According to ICC Law 41.5.1 it is unfair for any fielder wilfully to attempt, by word or action, to distract, deceive or obstruct either batsman after the striker has received the ball.

The issue is the ambiguity. How do you prove that he was attempting to distract/deceive Fakhar? He can get away with it by stating that he was pointing to the fielder to throw to the bowler’s end.

We know he was trying to distract him but there always ways in which you can go around such laws. They are not possible to attempt.

Anyway, what do our fans want now? Give Fakhar an honorary 200 or give Quinton de Kock a death penalty?

We like to cry but there should be some end goal as well. I don’t see this discussion going anywhere other than ultimately leading to IPL bashing with our fans claiming that PSL bowling is better.

Maybe I will see myself out from this thread until and if there is some interesting development.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

The issue is the ambiguity. How do you prove that he was attempting to distract/deceive Fakhar? He can get away with it by stating that he was pointing to the fielder to throw to the bowler’s end.

We know he was trying to distract him but there always ways in which you can go around such laws. They are not possible to attempt.

Anyway, what do our fans want now? Give Fakhar an honorary 200 or give Quinton de Kock a death penalty?

We like to cry but there should be some end goal as well. I don’t see this discussion going anywhere other than ultimately leading to IPL bashing with our fans claiming that PSL bowling is better.

Maybe I will see myself out from this thread until and if there is some interesting development.

I think the laughing and pointing at Fakhar in a "fooled you" manner gave it away?

 

[Firebat]

Why should Fakhar care where QDK is pointing?He should try to make his end regardless

Yes laughing bit is avoidable.But if I won a tight game I'd be laughing too

I agree, he shouldn't. He was exhausted after batting for 49 overs and scoring 193 and he had a lapse in concentration.

The post I quoted however, said:

He was just pointing the fielder to throw it at bowler's end

That is a blatant lie.

 

[Saj]

The issue is the ambiguity. How do you prove that he was attempting to distract/deceive Fakhar?

Of course he was distracting/deceiving Fakhar..

Look at his reaction when Fakhar was out.

He was clearly pointing at the other end to show that the ball was going at that end.