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[VIDEO] PM Imran minces no words at UN, calls out Modi govt for oppression of Kashmiris

We are proud that he deliberately speaks in Indian language

Like saying you are proud your leader has the education of a village bumpkin.

Imran Khan can speak Indian, language and his own Pakistani language, but so can all other Pakistanis, it's not something to be boasting about. The reason IK can speak English when he is abroad is because he has had a distinguished academic career as well as his sporting achievements.

Of course the Pakistan based Modi cheerleader was rubbishing his Oxford degree, but you won't see him dare pipe up in this thread because he was praising Modi as a great leader despite his lack of academic credentials.
 
Please don’t talk about human beings, humanity or the Muslim ummah. If the plight of humans and Muslims worry us so much, why is Imran and his supporters quiet on the detention of a million Muslims in China, who have been subjected to terrible atrocities.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...s-Uighur-Muslim-minority-UN-human-rights-body

Take a look at the lack of coverage in this thread. Where are all the “humanitarians” of PP?

Also, please don’t talk about how Kashmiris have a connection to Pakistan. If that is so, why are we quiet on Balochistan and FATA? Why is Imran not demanding the military to answer for the thousands of missing persons in Balochistan?

Why doesn’t he talk about the media blackout for the separatist movement in “Azad” Kashmir?

Why doesn’t he use the UN platform to discuss the plight of Ahmadis and Shias in Pakistan and the steps that his government will take to give them their due rights?

Why doesn’t he tell the world that he crumbled under the right-wing pressure and removed Atif Mian from the economic council, only for his joker Finance Minister (Asad Umar) to get sacked after 8 months?

Kashmir is purely a political issue for Pakistan. If the people of Kashmir think that the Pakistani state cares about their plight, they should wake up. They are just a tool for us in our battle of power and ego with India.

We are a country that committed a genocide against our own people to have our way. The youth of Kashmir who think Pakistan cares for them should learn our history.

When you (Imran/Pakistan) rub an issue too much without looking at the skeletons in your cupboard, you will eventually be discredited.

Even in this post, instead of acknowledging the current situation of Kashmir, you want to talk about why IK shouldn't be speaking up for them.
As I said earlier, Kashmiris couldn't care less why IK is fighting for their freedom, they'd just be glad the world will see their struggles, but unfortunately for them, as you said, the world isn't very caring.

Don't assume that I'm a blind supporter of IK. I, and more importantly, people in Pakistan have not been satisfied with the current government. However, that doesn't mean we have to criticize all their actions. Most people here are either on one or the other, failing to acknowledge the faults of their party or government, instead of putting Pakistan first.

As for IK not acknowledging the struggles of other Muslims/non-Muslims, he should certainly be criticized for that. I have no issue with that. However, that doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse to criticize him for bringing up this issue in front of the world, especially when he is the only one to do so.

As for Pakistan's history, most countries have committed immoral acts in the past, but that hasn't stopped them from moving in the right direction. If we start criticizing countries every time they perform a good deed for their actions in the past then we can never move forward as a society.
I also want to point out that I remember when IK was elected as the PM, you said something similar to that Asad Umar should succeed IK in the future, but now he is a joker? I also remember you once said IK is the greatest Asian player, saying that you acknowledge him as a quality cricket but not as a politician. But then after some time you claimed, Sachin was the greatest in Asia. So fewer U-turns would be great.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I look up to Khan sb’s leadership because of his achievements and the strong impact he had on our cricket even long after he had retired. The UN speech today is a moment I will always remember iA, like 92. We must all be united under our PM’s 4 points <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816;&#55357;&#56490;&#55356;&#57340; <a href="https://t.co/r1l5sahbYD">pic.twitter.com/r1l5sahbYD</a></p>— Shoaib Malik &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; (@realshoaibmalik) <a href="https://twitter.com/realshoaibmalik/status/1177640428486742017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Even in this post, instead of acknowledging the current situation of Kashmir, you want to talk about why IK shouldn't be speaking up for them.
As I said earlier, Kashmiris couldn't care less why IK is fighting for their freedom, they'd just be glad the world will see their struggles, but unfortunately for them, as you said, the world isn't very caring.

Don't assume that I'm a blind supporter of IK. I, and more importantly, people in Pakistan have not been satisfied with the current government. However, that doesn't mean we have to criticize all their actions. Most people here are either on one or the other, failing to acknowledge the faults of their party or government, instead of putting Pakistan first.

As for IK not acknowledging the struggles of other Muslims/non-Muslims, he should certainly be criticized for that. I have no issue with that. However, that doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse to criticize him for bringing up this issue in front of the world, especially when he is the only one to do so.

As for Pakistan's history, most countries have committed immoral acts in the past, but that hasn't stopped them from moving in the right direction. If we start criticizing countries every time they perform a good deed for their actions in the past then we can never move forward as a society.
I also want to point out that I remember when IK was elected as the PM, you said something similar to that Asad Umar should succeed IK in the future, but now he is a joker? I also remember you once said IK is the greatest Asian player, saying that you acknowledge him as a quality cricket but not as a politician. But then after some time you claimed, Sachin was the greatest in Asia. So fewer U-turns would be great.

I would suggest not waste time arguing with people who actually do not have an iota of respect or sympathy for Pakistan.
 
When Pak cricketers spoke in Urdu Indians used to mock them. Modi speaks in Hindi coz his English is terrible and you know it. "When in Rome do as the Romans do" as they say, interpreting what he is saying is not the same as speaking in the majority language.

Again don’t generalise to just make your point. Atleast I don’t mind them talking in Urdu.
But it’s different here PM modi deliberately talks in Hindi even in foreign delegations. Just when it’s really needed he speaks in English like 2 days back at the investor conference
 
Like saying you are proud your leader has the education of a village bumpkin.

Imran Khan can speak Indian, language and his own Pakistani language, but so can all other Pakistanis, it's not something to be boasting about. The reason IK can speak English when he is abroad is because he has had a distinguished academic career as well as his sporting achievements.

Of course the Pakistan based Modi cheerleader was rubbishing his Oxford degree, but you won't see him dare pipe up in this thread because he was praising Modi as a great leader despite his lack of academic credentials.

In india atleast politicians are not voted by academic credentials. Do you think millions voted him for his academic abilities? It’s a nice to have a higher degree but ultimately it’s person will, desire ,passion, sacrifice and commitment to nation that is what desired to develop the nation

Yes Imran khan is educated but it’s just temporary right? He might lose election and someone less educated might replace him. Same goes with india.
So it’s just a cycle.

As long as they are statesman , shrewd and nationalists , don’t have any problem
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I look up to Khan sb’s leadership because of his achievements and the strong impact he had on our cricket even long after he had retired. The UN speech today is a moment I will always remember iA, like 92. We must all be united under our PM’s 4 points <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanZindabad?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakistanZindabad</a> �������� <a href="https://t.co/r1l5sahbYD">pic.twitter.com/r1l5sahbYD</a></p>— Shoaib Malik ���� (@realshoaibmalik) <a href="https://twitter.com/realshoaibmalik/status/1177640428486742017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The most underwhelming celebrity in Pakistan
 
Please don’t talk about human beings, humanity or the Muslim ummah. If the plight of humans and Muslims worry us so much, why is Imran and his supporters quiet on the detention of a million Muslims in China, who have been subjected to terrible atrocities.

I have said it before and let me state here again as well. Imran should condemn China's actions in Uyghur against muslims. If he cannot do this in the capacity of a Statesman then he should do it in his personal capacity.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...s-Uighur-Muslim-minority-UN-human-rights-body

Take a look at the lack of coverage in this thread. Where are all the “humanitarians” of PP?

Also, please don’t talk about how Kashmiris have a connection to Pakistan. If that is so, why are we quiet on Balochistan and FATA? Why is Imran not demanding the military to answer for the thousands of missing persons in Balochistan?

You really think Kashmir and Pakistan don't have a connection? Ask yourself or simply read up any resolution passed bilaterally or in UN and look out for the word called "Pakistan". If you do come across this word in any resolution you read up then please understand that Pakistan is a direct party involved in this conflict.

Well you should read up Imran's view on military involvement in civilised areas from past 2 decades and also look up on his support for such movements. But you choose to look the other way, you also convinienly ignored the latest attack this movement carried out on army because that didn't support your narrative. In my personal opinion, military should answer for missing persons in FATA for decades of war that happened on their ground. Similarly, when curfew is lifted in Kashmir Indian military would be held solely accountable for any missing persons on that side of border. Please don't change your principle then.


Why doesn’t he talk about the media blackout for the separatist movement in “Azad” Kashmir?

Is this a serious question? First, let's seriously talk whether there are any such movements and whether these are in majority or minority. The visual answer to your question is the jalsa that was held in Azad Kashmir before US visit and second visual answer is when Imran would visit Azad Kashmir after US visit to show soladarity with earthquake victims. The visuals suggests the majority is with Pakistan.

Why doesn’t he use the UN platform to discuss the plight of Ahmadis and Shias in Pakistan and the steps that his government will take to give them their due rights?

This is a genuine concern and even though you made this point to show Pakistan's skeletons in its cupboard let me give a serious answer here.

Pakistan over the years especially after war on terror had serious implications on people getting educated this in return meant the large sects of people got more religious with time. This rise in religious mindset had impacts on the minorities of the country especially on their festive days. I have the courage to accept where we are wrong and over years we have been wrong here.

Having said the above, I feel there is a shift from religious mindset onto a more moderate mindset across the country. The latest example of this being the arrest of Rizvi. For those who don't know a nobody like Rizvi became somebody when he literally hijacked the traffic of Islamabad couple of years ago. So at the very least the start is here to see to improve religious mindset which would in return help the minorities across the country. This is not an overnight shift so it won't happen tomorrow. But this was decades in making especially in times of elite ruling the country (you still support the elite ruling the country).


Why doesn’t he tell the world that he crumbled under the right-wing pressure and removed Atif Mian from the economic council, only for his joker Finance Minister (Asad Umar) to get sacked after 8 months?

See response above.

Kashmir is purely a political issue for Pakistan. If the people of Kashmir think that the Pakistani state cares about their plight, they should wake up. They are just a tool for us in our battle of power and ego with India.

We are a country that committed a genocide against our own people to have our way. The youth of Kashmir who think Pakistan cares for them should learn our history.

See below as to why Kashmir is Pakistan's issue.

When you (Imran/Pakistan) rub an issue too much without looking at the skeletons in your cupboard, you will eventually be discredited.

So, lets indulge in an argument for the sake of a debate. I have given my personal opinions in red above.

You have asked multiple question and quite valid questions I must say. For a country like Pakistan its dark history will always haunt it and it cannot run away from it rightly so. Therefore, the best form of progression is acceptance. When a person/nation accepts its wrongdoings and sincerely moves forward with idea of progression then its headed down the right track. I genuinely believe Imran is making this nation fall on this right path and it might very well happen in his lifetime.

Now, I won't be asking you of multiple questions like you did. I would simply just ask questions around Kashmir. I do ask because neither yourself nor any Indian poster (at least to my knowledge) have openly condemned the actions in Kashmir by Indian State. Here is my one liner question sir.

Do you condemn Indian actions in Kashmir?
 
Do you condemn Indian actions in Kashmir?

I will try to keep my reply as brief as possible.

To answer your question, yes I do. Every nation on earth has the right to freedom, and by denying Kashmiris their freedom, India is guilty of violating human rights.

However, I don’t think it is Pakistan’s battle to fight. Not just because Pakistan has no moral ground to stand on based on our past and present, but because the perceptual conflict with Kashmir is a severe burden on our economy.

For 72 years we have lost lives and money for no end result. Considering our broke economy and the inevitable water crisis (Pakistan is the most water-stressed country in South Asia and there will be acute water shortage by 2025), we cannot afford to severe ties with India during these times.

In addition, Kashmir has also made mistakes. First and foremost, they need to realize two things: (a) armed resistance will result in nothing but bloodshed of the Kashmiri youth and (b) Pakistan is not sincere to their cause.

They are just a tool for the Pakistani military to maintain a perpetual conflict with India which allows them to remain the central power in Pakistan.

Furthermore, there is an over-emphasis on the independence rhetoric but almost no discussions of how they plan to run their country if they are granted independence.

What is their long-term plan? Do they have the resources to survive as a sovereign state? The Kashmir valley is overpopulating, and there is almost no possibility that their youth will find jobs and other opportunities in India.

Also, what about Azad Kashmir? Will they let it be or will they also demand Pakistan to give them their land back? If yes, why? If no, why?

Moreover, if they don’t want independence and want to merge into Azad Kashmir, again, why? Why do they think a broke country like Pakistan, that has poorly dealt with two insurgencies in Balochistan and FATA, will be able to sustain them?

By refusing to address these pertinent questions, the pro-independence leadership have failed to make their case strong. They need to formulate a plan and present it to the world.

At a smaller-scale, they are doing what the Muslim League did pre-independence. They sold the Two Nation Theory (an idealistic theory that did not last long), but ultimately Muslim League was a movement and not a structured party. They did not have clear grounds for the governance of Pakistan.

As a result, Pakistan has been a circus since its inception. They plowed through 7 Prime Ministers in the first 12 years, the fell victim to military dictatorship, they managed to lose their eastern half within two decades. In short, Pakistan have made a series of mistakes since day one and never properly stabilized. Sure there are other factors too, but the lack of planning played a big part.

I sympathize with the Kashmir cause, but I don’t want Pakistan to play a role in it and I want the Kashmiri leadership to change their strategy.
 
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What do you think is the solution for this issue?

I don't think Pakistan will let go Gilgit Baltistan, Mirpur etc.

And to be honest, I don't think either that current indian government is sensible, overall their policies and measures are idiotic, I have serioud doubts over capabilities of Modi.

Probably having LOC as International Border?
 
I sympathize with the Kashmir cause, but I don’t want Pakistan to play a role in it and I want the Kashmiri leadership to change their strategy.

Firstly, thanks for your inputs and I'm happy that you are actually sympathetic of the situation and condemn the actions of Indian State in Kashmir.

Now lets address your concern by saying Pakistan should not have any role in this entire issue. If you would have said Pakistan should not indulge with Afghanistan or Taliban then I would understand your view point as that situation has nothing to do with us. Or if you would have said that Pakistan should keep away from Iran and US / Saudi tensions then again you would have a valid argument. Same goes for Yemen, Rohingya, Uyghurs, Palestine, etc.

The common root in all the issues in the para above is that it has no linkage with Pakistan hence it would be fine if Pakistan does not meddle in it. However, Kashmir is not the same. In Kashmir issue Pakistan is a directly involved party and has been a direct party since inception of Pakistan itself.

If I analyze your argument above your points are broadly as follows:

1. If Kashmir problems becomes our in the future it would bear more constraints on our already struggling economy
I would take human life over material, this was the message of Imran himself too in his speech. Looks like material takes priority in your case which is ironic considering you are a doctor.

2. Long-term plans and what about Azad Kashmir
Again you are touching on materialistic subject here. Certainly Kashmir on its itself being independent which includes Azad Kashmir too will not have sufficient resources to carry on and provide for its economy. However, you are underplaying the will of the people of Kashmiris and neglecting the fact that they have a massive opportunity in tourism industry to thrive on in the future. Yes, as a sovereign country in the start it would require support of other countries but it can become self-reliant in the next decade or so. Please don't count them off here.


Overall, lets be brave enough by calling spade a spade. The lockdown in Kashmir is not correct. It is high time a decisive decision is made on people of Kashmir and the people of Kashmir should be making the decision for themselves. Not you, me, Imran or Modi, its the voice of Kashmiri people that needs to be respected and should be the decisive voice here.
 
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I try to be rational, and it is interesting that you mentioned the medical profession. Although the primary purpose of the field of medicine is to cure people, it is also very important to be rational and not let emotions dictate you. I will give you an example - cancer hospitals throughout the world regularly refuse to admit patients who have no chances of survival.

This may sound cruel and inhuman, but they do it because they do not want to spend time, money and other resources on patients who are not going to make it. They would rather invest on patients who have a genuine shot at being cancer-free. For that matter, I also support euthanasia, but I do understand why some people oppose it.

The thought that you value human life over materialism is noble, but to what extent and at what cost? Since the tribals won Azad Kashmir for Pakistan, what has the state achieved on the Kashmir front? We have started multiple wars over Kashmir and suffered heavy losses. It can be argued that we lost East Pakistan because of Kashmir as well.

Without the Kashmir issue dividing Pakistan and India, there would have been more room for better ties. As a result, India probably wouldn’t have been so quick and keen to support the separatist movement in East Pakistan.

Our Kashmir strategy has not worked and it will not work in the future. These UN speeches have no long-term consequences for India. They are a bigger, more powerful nation than Pakistan and they have a bigger presence on international forums. More importantly, they are a huge market for business and there is more money in India than in Pakistan.

The world and its institutions are not going to gang up on India to grant Kashmir independence. We need to be rational and clear about this - unless the Indian economy completely collapses, there is no possibility of Kashmir breaking away. For how long will we fight this lost cause?

Furthermore, why is it wrong to ask pertinent questions about Kashmir’s future assuming that they are able to achieve independence? You can put it down by calling it materialism, but I sure hope the Kashmiri separatists have a solid long-term vision of how they are going to run their sovereign nation. I have to say this with regret but I feel that the Kashmiri leadership and its youth is high on emotion and romanticism but have no rationality and pragmatism in their movement.

I agree that Kashmir has tourism potential. I have touched on this before, and that is why I have argued that if they can suspend their independence movement and reach a mutually beneficial agreement with the Government of India, they have the potential to be one of the richest states in the country. However, as a sovereign state, what is their plan for developing tourism?

Also, speaking of other countries helping them, which countries would? India will not, the countries that have interest in India will not, Pakistan is broke and cannot help themselves. China? Possibly. It is a country that does not have a shred of morality and makes USA look like saints, so I can certainly see them strangle Kashmir (similar to how they have strangled Pakistan to an extent), monopolize their market and use them to further their OBOR ambitions.

What good is independence if you cannot sustain yourself? What will be Kashmir’s diplomatic position if they collapse as a sovereign state and end up getting bailed by India for the latter’s own interests? Personally, I fully support Kashmir’s quest for independence provided that they have a solid framework for their sovereign status, which I don’t think exists.
 
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The RSS ban that was mentioned in the speech.
 
Again don’t generalise to just make your point. Atleast I don’t mind them talking in Urdu.
But it’s different here PM modi deliberately talks in Hindi even in foreign delegations. Just when it’s really needed he speaks in English like 2 days back at the investor conference

What you talking about? It is a fact that Indian fans mocked Pak players when they spoke in Urdu. Now that the shoe is on the other foot are telling us Modi is a patriot hence speaks in Hindi. What is generalising about this? We all know that Modi does not even have basic schooling, the English he speaks is off a very poor quality that he learnt from watching TV!
 
What you talking about? It is a fact that Indian fans mocked Pak players when they spoke in Urdu. Now that the shoe is on the other foot are telling us Modi is a patriot hence speaks in Hindi. What is generalising about this? We all know that Modi does not even have basic schooling, the English he speaks is off a very poor quality that he learnt from watching TV!

You know nothing. Modi is a graduate and even addressed the joint session of US congress in english. He got standing ovation many times during that speech.

The Chinese And Russian Presidents give speeches in their native language.

Modi is courted by world leaders and has the red carpet laid out for him, and is awarded with highest honours.
 
What you talking about? It is a fact that Indian fans mocked Pak players when they spoke in Urdu. Now that the shoe is on the other foot are telling us Modi is a patriot hence speaks in Hindi. What is generalising about this? We all know that Modi does not even have basic schooling, the English he speaks is off a very poor quality that he learnt from watching TV!

Ok come out of delusion. Many school dropouts have been a success in life. And there is nothing to feel proud of someone who can speak in English. Just can say good for them
 
I'm sorry, but until someone provides a video of Modi speaking in English, I won't believe he is capable of doing it. Another Indian provided a link which he claimed did just that, but it turned out to be another speech delivered in hindi.

Not saying he can't speak English, just would like to see some actual proof.
 
I'm sorry, but until someone provides a video of Modi speaking in English, I won't believe he is capable of doing it. Another Indian provided a link which he claimed did just that, but it turned out to be another speech delivered in hindi.

Not saying he can't speak English, just would like to see some actual proof.

He probably can speak English, not that I'd like to torture myself listening to that person, but when you are all about promoting bigotry and hate then your orating skills diminishes. Probably a reason he would only give interview to Indian film celebrities who would ask him about, "How he eats Mangoes".
 
I'm sorry, but until someone provides a video of Modi speaking in English, I won't believe he is capable of doing it. Another Indian provided a link which he claimed did just that, but it turned out to be another speech delivered in hindi.

Not saying he can't speak English, just would like to see some actual proof.

He can’t speak proper English. Happy?

Rajiv Gandhi did speak proper English, and we all know how good he turned out to be.
 
He can’t speak proper English. Happy?

Rajiv Gandhi did speak proper English, and we all know how good he turned out to be.

I don't know why joshila & co didn't just say that then. I would have just dropped the matter much earlier if Modi apologists weren't trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
 
You know nothing. Modi is a graduate and even addressed the joint session of US congress in english. He got standing ovation many times during that speech.

The Chinese And Russian Presidents give speeches in their native language.

Modi is courted by world leaders and has the red carpet laid out for him, and is awarded with highest honours.

but cant hold a press conference with media even in hindi ...
 
You know nothing. Modi is a graduate and even addressed the joint session of US congress in english. He got standing ovation many times during that speech.

The Chinese And Russian Presidents give speeches in their native language.

Modi is courted by world leaders and has the red carpet laid out for him, and is awarded with highest honours.

Modi is a graduate at making tea:))):))):))) I am talking about the recent UN meeting, what one are you referring too? As IK said Modi is given the red carpet treatment coz of the Indian market that's all those fols want to invest in. He was banned from entering the USA before being elected PM don't you forget that. IK was applauded about six time during his speech and is the second most searched PM on Google after Trump. Why were you Indian's belittling our Cricketers when they spoke in Urdu accusing them of being uneducated and all that? Same applies to Modi.
 
Ok come out of delusion. Many school dropouts have been a success in life. And there is nothing to feel proud of someone who can speak in English. Just can say good for them

Sure being a tea boy is much better then being a terrorist like Modi! Once again ace when our Cricketers spoke in Urdu you guys called them ignorant. Mind you, no one ever accused our Cricketers of being terrorists like Modi responsible for killing so many innocent Muslim's in Gujarat all those years back. That is why he walked away when Karan Thapar grilled him.
 
Sure being a tea boy is much better then being a terrorist like Modi! Once again ace when our Cricketers spoke in Urdu you guys called them ignorant. Mind you, no one ever accused our Cricketers of being terrorists like Modi responsible for killing so many innocent Muslim's in Gujarat all those years back. That is why he walked away when Karan Thapar grilled him.

Here it is, the guy didnt even want to talk about the massacre, Modi looks like a thug.

https://youtu.be/tAGAYL8dtic
 
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121 year old project.... :facepalm:

We have been floundering since independence
 
NEW YORK: Prime Minister Imran Khan is likely to address the 75th session of the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) via video link on September 25, according to an initial list of speakers officially released on Tuesday.

The general debate of the 193-member assembly, which is traditionally a high-profile annual UN event, will open on September 22. However, this year it is expected to be a slimmed-down affair, with world leaders staying away from New York because of the coronavirus pandemic.

They will be contributing set-piece speeches via video link.

According to the list, PM Imran, who last year made his debut at the UN as head of state, is the sixth speaker in the afternoon session on September 25.

“I expect that the prime minister will once again raise the cause of the Kashmiri people for self-determination and azadi [freedom] from Indian oppression," Pakistan’s ambassador to the UN Munir Akram told APP.

Akram added that the prime minister will also talk about Pakistan’s facilitation of and hopes for the peace process in Afghanistan, its successful response to the coronavirus crisis, debt relief for developing countries and other international issues in his wide-ranging address.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is scheduled to speak on September 26, a day after the Pakistani leader’s address.

US President Donald Trump is set to address on the morning of September 22, the opening day of the general debate, which will run through September 29.

The US is traditionally the second speaker in the high-level debate after Brazil.

New arrangements
UNGA President Tijjani Muhammad-Bande, last month had said each Member State, Observer State and the European Union were invited to submit a pre-recorded video, delivered by its designated high-level official, which will be played in the General Assembly Hall.

Speeches will be limited to 15 minutes.

The iconic General Assembly Hall will not be empty as videos will be introduced by a representative of each state, who will be physically present.

The same procedure will apply for a series of special high-level sessions scheduled to take place, including a commemoration of the landmark 75th anniversary of the United Nations; a summit on biodiversity; and a meeting to commemorate and promote, the International Day for the Total Elimination of Nuclear Weapons.

Side-events, such as New York Climate Week, are unlikely to welcome attendees to New York venues this year, following Muhammad-Bande’s suggestion that they should be moved online.

The decision to introduce pre-recorded videos to the High-Level General Debate, which takes place at the beginning of the 75th session of the General Assembly, was made by the UN body on Wednesday, using the novel ‘silence procedure’ method.

Under this method, draft resolutions are circulated by the UNGA president which gives member states a deadline of at least 72 hours to raise objections.

If there are no objections, the president circulates a letter, confirming that the resolution has been adopted.

Ahead of the 75th session, Ambassador Akram will meet UNGA President-elect Volkan Bozkir on August 21 and discuss the items inscribed on the Assembly's agenda.

Bozkir, a veteran Turkish diplomat, will assume the office as UNGA President on September 15, the day the 75th session gets underway.



https://www.geo.tv/latest/305756-pm-imran-to-highlight-kashmir-issue-again-on-75th-unga-session
 
Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday blamed the "ideology" of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) for no resumption of dialogue between India and Pakistan. He also evaded the question of whether Pakistan is aiding the Taliban which has wreaked havoc in Afghanistan.

When asked by ANI if 'can talks and terror go hand in hand', Imran Khan said, "We want to talk to India but the ideology of RSS has proven to be a roadblock."

Later when he was posed with the question of whether Pakistan is controlling the Taliban in Afghanistan, he evaded the question. Despite repetitive requests by the journalists, Imran Khan did not acknowledge the question.

Khan is participating in the Central-South Asia conference in Uzbekistan's Tashkent.

Meanwhile, hitting out at Imran Khan for blaming RSS for the failure of talks between India and Pakistan, Indian Union Minister Kaushal Kishore said, "Terrorism has its roots in Pakistan. Imran Khan is well aware of terror havens in his country. Blaming RSS has no substance, it's an unnecessary statement by him. RSS preaches harmony."

The question on the Taliban was asked after Afghanistan Vice President Saleh alleged that Pakistan is providing close air support to the Taliban in certain areas of Afghanistan.

Vice President Amrullah Saleh has recently tweeted, "Pakistan air force has issued (an) official warning to the Afghan Army and Air Force that any move to dislodge the Taliban from Spin Boldak area will be faced and repelled by the Pakistan Air Force. Pak air force is now providing close air support to Taliban in certain areas."

However, Pakistan's Foreign Office has strongly rejected the allegations stressing there is no shred of truth in the claims made by the Afghan VP.

Fierce fighting has been going on for the last few days between the Afghan forces and the Taliban in Spin Boldak town of Kandahar.

The Taliban militants have seized dozens of districts in recent weeks and are now thought to control about a third of the country, ahead of the complete withdrawal of US and Western troops from Afghanistan by September 11.

https://www.timesnownews.com/intern...-with-india-evades-question-on-taliban/785968
 
Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan on Friday blamed the "ideology" of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) for no resumption of dialogue between India and Pakistan. He also evaded the question of whether Pakistan is aiding the Taliban which has wreaked havoc in Afghanistan.

When asked by ANI if 'can talks and terror go hand in hand', Imran Khan said, "We want to talk to India but the ideology of RSS has proven to be a roadblock."

Later when he was posed with the question of whether Pakistan is controlling the Taliban in Afghanistan, he evaded the question. Despite repetitive requests by the journalists, Imran Khan did not acknowledge the question.

Khan is participating in the Central-South Asia conference in Uzbekistan's Tashkent.

Meanwhile, hitting out at Imran Khan for blaming RSS for the failure of talks between India and Pakistan, Indian Union Minister Kaushal Kishore said, "Terrorism has its roots in Pakistan. Imran Khan is well aware of terror havens in his country. Blaming RSS has no substance, it's an unnecessary statement by him. RSS preaches harmony."

The question on the Taliban was asked after Afghanistan Vice President Saleh alleged that Pakistan is providing close air support to the Taliban in certain areas of Afghanistan.

Vice President Amrullah Saleh has recently tweeted, "Pakistan air force has issued (an) official warning to the Afghan Army and Air Force that any move to dislodge the Taliban from Spin Boldak area will be faced and repelled by the Pakistan Air Force. Pak air force is now providing close air support to Taliban in certain areas."

However, Pakistan's Foreign Office has strongly rejected the allegations stressing there is no shred of truth in the claims made by the Afghan VP.

Fierce fighting has been going on for the last few days between the Afghan forces and the Taliban in Spin Boldak town of Kandahar.

The Taliban militants have seized dozens of districts in recent weeks and are now thought to control about a third of the country, ahead of the complete withdrawal of US and Western troops from Afghanistan by September 11.

https://www.timesnownews.com/intern...-with-india-evades-question-on-taliban/785968

The whole world knows that Pakistan is the biggest supporter of the Taliban. If you watch Pakistanis TV channel, it is a repeat of our past mistakes again and pro-Taliban narrative is being shaped amd forwarded. We are again promoting and portraying the Taliban as being kind, pious and upright. Pakistanis are still not tired despite picking up 70000 dead bodies of their countrymen.
 
He also evaded the question of whether Pakistan is aiding the Taliban which has wreaked havoc in Afghanistan.
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Shouldn’t this be a bigger concern or question for a Pakistani than “RSS ideology” which has very minimal direct impact on Pakistan?
 
meanwhile across the border, this is what Indian Police forces in Kashmir worrying about
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Dip In Locals Joining Terror Groups, More Efforts Needed To Check Unfortunate Trend: J&K Top Cop

Dilbag Singh, a 1987-batch IPS officer, said the police have succeeded to an extent in targeting "such elements" who were responsible for luring the youth into terrorism.


Srinagar: Director General of Police of Jammu and Kashmir Dilbag Singh has said that though the number of local youths joining terror groups has fallen from 85 to 69 this year, the "unfortunate trend" continues to a certain extent and that more efforts from the society and agencies are needed to check it.
Mr Singh highlighted the efforts of the police force to combat militancy and said Jammu and Kashmir has seen an overall decline in terrorism after the police cracked down on the network of Over Ground Workers (OGWs) by detaining 417 of them over a period of time.

"That is an unfortunate trend as I see some amount of recruitment is taking place. It is 69 to be precise. But then if you compare it with the same period of previous year it was 85. You see a declining trend here but the fact is that certain recruitment is taking place. We are trying to address this problem by targeting the people who are responsible for luring the youth and radicalization of the youth," he told PTI.

Mr Singh, a 1987-batch IPS officer, said the police have succeeded to an extent in targeting "such elements" who were responsible for luring the youth into terrorism.

"But much more is required to be done from within the society and some other agencies which must be dealing with the youth to see that they are away from the path of destruction and they are brought back to the positive activity and engagement. So, therefore, all concerned agencies of the government have to engage our vulnerable youth positively (and) more efforts are required to be put in," he said.

Without sharing details, Mr Singh said there have been some heartening developments in this regard when a "very sizable number" of youths who had left their homes to join terrorist groups were brought back.

"Their number is 30 and they have since joined their families back...public faith in police is very heartening, anybody missing, public is reporting to police, especially parents reporting to police simultaneously to help them get their wards back is a very healthy trend," he said.

"I assure that if they come back, there will be no harm done to them, they will be happily reunited with their families," he said.

He said surrender appeals have even been made during live encounters. "That experiment has also been very successful...over a dozen people came out...the boys were grateful especially when they came out and told their stories...how they were lured into and made to be part of the terror outfits which they never wanted to. They were actually coerced into joining terror activities," he said.

On recent attacks in Srinagar city, Mr Singh admitted that terrorists have been trying to gain their foothold in the city "but we have been able to decimate their plans. Whosoever comes and sets up his base in the city, he is targeted sooner or later."

He said police carried out 17 encounters last year within the city and this year also nearly 3 to 4 encounters have taken place.

"So, we are getting information about people and we are going after them. Very soon you will be hearing about another solid operation in Srinagar city," he said.

The police chief said the number of terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir has fallen from 300-plus to nearly 200. "Within the 200, there are some foreign elements. So, the figure stands at 190-195 out of which we have 60 to 70 foreign terrorists," he said.

"As I see, the situation is much better as compared to the previous years".

Only 84 incidents have taken place as compared to 120 in the corresponding period last year. It shows a decline of 30 per cent.

"Similarly, when we talk of law-and-order situation, 48 incidents have taken place as compared to 100 incidents in the period of last year which shows a decline of 52 per cent for which we feel much satisfied with it," he said.

"I am glad to say that there is no single casualty during the course of our operations. Our counter-terror operations have been very neat and clean," he said.

Mr Singh said the anti-terror operations were to strengthen "our efforts to augment an environment of peace and get rid of the fear from the minds of people that has been created by terrorists and their stooges and associates."

"We are trying to keep the pace...despite the Covid challenges, we have tried to carry out a large number of operations. Over 34 operations have been carried out during the current year while 83 terrorists have been killed during this year which included around half-a-dozen foreign terrorists."

He said apart from this, security forces have have been able "to strike at their terror network, OGW network, and the network which sustains the ecosystem of militancy, of terror funding by various means."

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/dip-in-locals-joining-terror-groups-more-efforts-needed-to-check-unfortunate-trend-j-k-top-cop-dilbag-singh-2492355
 
Shouldn’t this be a bigger concern or question for a Pakistani than “RSS ideology” which has very minimal direct impact on Pakistan?

The biggest concern for IK should be the lack of development of modern industries in Pakistan. He hasn’t made any progress in this respect, but wastes his time and energy obsessing about Modi and India.
 
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