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[VIDEO] Police in Wisconsin shoot black man in back multiple times, sparking protests

What’s actually a little more ironic is that desi people of indo/Pak origin going after the American police.
Seriously, have we seen how police operates back home in India n Pakistan? lol

Not fair!

This has to stop!!

Black lives matter!!!!!!!!!!

Police clearly gave him enough opportunity to comply but he chose not to. You have the right to voice your opinion and call it unfair, and I don’t have an issue with it.

But when you say “ Black lives matter” then that’s where I would want some more detail.
By saying “black lives matter”, if we mean that ALL blacks lives matter, then I don’t agree.
I would rather say, “ALL INNOCENT LIVES MATTER REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN”.

Here is an example,
This scumbag is hardly 30 and he already has 60 + arrest records.
His life doesn’t matter to me.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=6jfN1kXPiak

Agreed on the All Lives Matter.

I just watched the George Floyd Full Body Cam Footage and it opened my eyes that this movement should have nothing to with racism, but the real problem is mishandling of weapons.
 
The NBA postponed Wednesday's three play-off games after the Milwaukee Bucks called off their fixture in protest at the shooting of Jacob Blake.

Blake, a black man, was shot seven times in the back by police on Sunday in Kenosha, Wisconsin near Milwaukee.

In baseball, three MLB games were called off after teams decided not to play, and five MLS matches have been postponed.

Tennis player Naomi Osaka pulled out of a WTA match on Thursday.

She tweeted that she would no longer play her semi-final in the Western & Southern Open in New York, saying that "as a black woman I feel as though there are much more important matters at hand that need immediate attention, rather than watching me play tennis".

The US Tennis Association, ATP and WTA subsequently announced it was pausing play at the Western & Southern Open on Thursday and would resume on Friday, adding that "tennis is collectively taking a stance against racial inequality and social injustice".

After calling off their game against the Orlando Magic, the Bucks players released a statement that said: "Despite the overwhelming plea for change, there has been no action, so our focus today cannot be on basketball.

"When we take the court and represent Milwaukee and Wisconsin, we are expected to play at a high level, give maximum effort and hold each other accountable.

"We hold ourselves to that standard, and in this moment, we are demanding the same from our lawmakers and law enforcement.

"We are calling for justice for Jacob Blake and demand the officers be held accountable."

The Seattle Mariners announced they had decided not to play the second game in their MLB series against the San Diego Padres.

The decision was based on a unanimous vote from the players, Mariners player Dee Gordon tweeted.

The Milwaukee Brewers and Cincinnati Reds also postponed their home MLB game scheduled to take place on Wednesday.

"The players from the Brewers and Reds have decided not to play tonight's baseball game," said a statement issued by the Brewers.

"With our community and our nation in such pain, we wanted to draw as much attention to the issues that really matter, especially racial injustice and systemic oppression."

California rivals the San Francisco Giants and the Los Angeles Dodgers postponed their scheduled game and issued a joint statement that said: "Throughout our country's history, sport has been a powerful vehicle towards change.

"The Dodgers and Giants proudly join our players in the shared goal for a more equitable and just society."

The WNBA postponed all three games due to take place in the bubble in Bradenton, Florida on Wednesday.

The players linked arms on court, with a group wearing T-shirts that spelled out Blake's name and also seven holes in them representing how many times he was shot by police.

"We stand in solidarity with our brothers in the NBA and we continue this conversation with our brothers and sisters across all leagues and look to take collective action," said Atlanta Dream's Elizabeth Williams in a statement on behalf of all WNBA players.

"If you truly believe that black lives matter, then go and vote."

Major League Soccer said the following matches had been postponed: FC Dallas v Colorado Rapids, San Jose v Portland, LAFC v Real Salt Lake, LA Galaxy v Seattle Sounders and Inter Miami v Atlanta United.

Milwaukee Bucks' senior vice-president Alex Lasry tweeted: "Some things are bigger than basketball. The stand taken today by the players and organisation shows that we're fed up. Enough is enough."

He added: "Change needs to happen. I'm incredibly proud of our guys and we stand 100% behind our players ready to assist and bring about real change."

After the postponement, a statement on behalf of the Bucks' owners read: "We fully support our players and the decision they made. Although we did not know beforehand, we would have wholeheartedly agreed with them.

"The only way to bring about change is to shine a light on the racial injustices that are happening in front of us. Our players have done that and we will continue alongside them and demand accountability and change."

Former US President Barack Obama, a dedicated basketball fan, tweeted his support of the walkout.

The Houston Rockets' game against the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Los Angeles Lakers' match-up with the Portland Trail Blazers were also postponed, and will be rescheduled.

The Lakers' LeBron James tweeted: "We demand change. Sick of it." Karl-Anthony Towns of the Minnesota Timberwolves added: "Shoot hoops, not people", while Denver Nuggets player Jamal Murray said: "We demand justice!"

LA Lakers honour Kobe Bryant in play-off win over Portland Trail Blazers
Prior to the scheduled game, Bucks coach Mike Budenholzer said: "Myself, my players and our organisation are very disturbed by what happened in Kenosha.

"It is a great challenge to have an appreciation and a desire to want change, to want something different and better in Kenosha, Milwaukee and Wisconsin, and then to go out and play a game."

NBA players are scheduled for a meeting in Florida later on Wednesday to determine their next steps, with NBA TV saying that some players are contemplating leaving the NBA bubble near Orlando.

Earlier in the day, NFL's Detroit Lions cancelled their practice session. Players then gathered in front of the team facility, holding signs which read: "We Won't be Silent" and "The World Can't Go On."

After the NBA walkout, the NHL held a 'moment of reflection' before the games between the Boston Bruins and Tampa Bay Lightning in Toronto, and the Dallas Stars and Colorado Avalanche in Edmonton.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/basketball/53926764
 
While I do not normally go through detailed videos of such cases I saw a number of videos of the white 17 year old boy shooting 3 people

1) Honestly, each of the 3 cases was one of self defence, the boy was being attacked, and if you attack a guy with a rifle, there is a good chance you will be shot.

2) That said, i felt bad for the 2 people who got killed. The first was a 36 year old who has a 2 year old daughter, and even if he had a criminal record and was throwing stuff and swearing at the 17 year old kid, it was heartbreaking to see him try to lift his head after being shot in the brain.

3) What business does a 17 year old kid have to cross state lines and act vigilante with a rifle he is not legally supposed to have?

And it was surreal to see him walk towards police with his arms raised and the police not even interested to stop him, let alone arrest.
That is nothing but racial privilege
 
While I do not normally go through detailed videos of such cases I saw a number of videos of the white 17 year old boy shooting 3 people

1) Honestly, each of the 3 cases was one of self defence, the boy was being attacked, and if you attack a guy with a rifle, there is a good chance you will be shot.

Yes, and if you are carrying a rifle to a protest and shoot people dead, there is a good chance you will be jailed for manslaughter.
 
Sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever

When violence is used to impose your views, it makes ordinary citizens take up arms to protect themselves and their family.

BLM and ANTIFA are attacking physically and vandalizing everything in their way to protest police brutality. When Police do nothing to stop the vandalizing mobs, even ordinary citizens are forced to buy weapons and carry them where ever they go.

I am completely against Gun ownership, but these far left and socialist morons are playing right into the hands of Gun owners reasons for having weapons.
 
Things are not very good in Madison, Wisconsin down town. We own a resturant here and yesterday they broke into the building owner office and broke all the glasses and wrote hang him. Owner is a very old man and one of those millionairs who hide in bunkers when situation like this arrives.

Any how situation is getting more complicated because it looks like more than shooting specifically a black guy. According to the report Police Officers didnt even knew who that guy was. There were charges of Rape and Domestic violence againt him but still that should not allow then to shoot him from that much near.

its not about BLM its more about now police are acting like goons here
 
When violence is used to impose your views, it makes ordinary citizens take up arms to protect themselves and their family.

BLM and ANTIFA are attacking physically and vandalizing everything in their way to protest police brutality. When Police do nothing to stop the vandalizing mobs, even ordinary citizens are forced to buy weapons and carry them where ever they go.

I am completely against Gun ownership, but these far left and socialist morons are playing right into the hands of Gun owners reasons for having weapons.

You have a point there but the problem is Police are shotting black guy specifically, yesterday a white boy in Kenosha came out with gun and started shooting and I think he killed three black guys. What happened to him NOTHING. Because he will be let go by saying " He is going through some stupid hormonal changes " or " he is so much distressed and traumatised due to family dramas "
 
Once again the looney left have made an issue out of something that wasn't race related at all.

Weapon - Check.
Warrant - Check
Non-Compliance - Check
Wanna be a bad boy attitude - Check

But no, lets make it a race issue because terrorist organisations and sheeple alike BLM need oxygen to survive; more like bacteria ****.
 
You have a point there but the problem is Police are shotting black guy specifically, yesterday a white boy in Kenosha came out with gun and started shooting and I think he killed three black guys. What happened to him NOTHING. Because he will be let go by saying " He is going through some stupid hormonal changes " or " he is so much distressed and traumatised due to family dramas "

The 17 year old will be prosecuted and will serve prison time.

The saddest part of this is that Police have started siding with Blue Lives Matter counter protesters. When the Liberals and far left are openly supporting BLM and Communists/Socialists and throwing Law enforcement under the bus, Police are going soft over right wing counter protesters.
 
Once again the looney left have made an issue out of something that wasn't race related at all.

Weapon - Check.
Warrant - Check
Non-Compliance - Check
Wanna be a bad boy attitude - Check

But no, lets make it a race issue because terrorist organisations and sheeple alike BLM need oxygen to survive; more like bacteria ****.

Its a circle that happens whenever Cops shoot a suspect.
 
Who is US teen, 17, accused of Kenosha, Wisconsin, protest murders?

After a black man was shot seven times in the back by a police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Sunday, 23 August, people angry about police violence began protesting.

On the third night of demonstrations, a 17-year-old boy allegedly fired on protesters with an assault rifle, killing two and seriously injuring a third.

On Wednesday he was arrested at his mother's home. He now faces a first-degree murder charge.

Videos indicate he spent hours on Tuesday patrolling the streets before turning his weapon on demonstrators. He told journalists it was "his job" to guard buildings and even offer medical assistance to protestors.

Here's what we know about the teenager, his connections to a Donald Trump rally and membership of a Facebook group reported for inciting violence.

Read more:

Who is he?

Details are still emerging about Kyle Rittenhouse, but his social media profiles show a fascination with police dating back several years.

A Facebook photo of him was framed with the "Blue Lives Matter" logo - a staunchly pro-police movement that often clashes with Black Lives Matter supporters.

Several of his posts honoured police officers killed on duty, and he also posted pictures of himself wearing full police uniform. He is a former member of a local police cadet programme, Grayslake Police Department says.

Guns are another of his passions. Photos of the suspect show him posing with weapons, practising target shooting and assembling an assault rifle.

In an interview on Tuesday night before the shootings, he echoes police language when telling a journalist why he is armed.

"Part of my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I'm running into harm's way," he says.

Later a video appears to show him shooting a man in the head. He then appears to be chased by a crowd before falling to the ground, and firing his gun at them.

As hr approaches police vans with his arms in the air, a bystander shouts "that dude just shot them", but the vehicles pass by to attend to the injured protesters.

Police arrested him in Antioch, Illinois, which is about 15 miles (24km) from Kenosha.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53934109
 
The NBA players have agreed to resume the postseason, according to reports, but Thursday night's three playoff games will not take place.
 
Once again the looney left have made an issue out of something that wasn't race related at all.

Weapon - Check.
Warrant - Check
Non-Compliance - Check
Wanna be a bad boy attitude - Check

But no, lets make it a race issue because terrorist organisations and sheeple alike BLM need oxygen to survive; more like bacteria ****.

No knife was held or pointed at any cops. Bad boy attitude is not a crime and nothing else warrants being shot 7 times at point blank in the back.

Left wing are not as violent as the right wing. Both are harmful but anyone who thinks the likes of peados, anti women scm like Trump or Boris are the saviours is more deluded than any left winger.

The white kid who shot people died was arrested, cops didnt think to shoot him.

In fact , can anyone post as many videos as you can find on the internet of white cops shooting and killing white kids.
 
No knife was held or pointed at any cops. Bad boy attitude is not a crime and nothing else warrants being shot 7 times at point blank in the back.

Left wing are not as violent as the right wing. Both are harmful but anyone who thinks the likes of peados, anti women scm like Trump or Boris are the saviours is more deluded than any left winger.

The white kid who shot people died was arrested, cops didnt think to shoot him.

In fact , can anyone post as many videos as you can find on the internet of white cops shooting and killing white kids.

The video reports 7 gunshots were heard, this doesn't mean victim was shot 7 times.

Blake doesn't have to point a weapon to a cop to be considered a threat.

His bad boy attitude is exactly why he got shot. Nothing to do with legality. Notice how the cop doesn't shoot until the last moment.

Blake was asking for trouble.

It's the left who take half a story and bake it into a full one without knowing the facts.

You will not find many white cop on white victims video, simply because white people tend to comply with cops.
 
The video reports 7 gunshots were heard, this doesn't mean victim was shot 7 times.

Blake doesn't have to point a weapon to a cop to be considered a threat.

His bad boy attitude is exactly why he got shot. Nothing to do with legality. Notice how the cop doesn't shoot until the last moment.

Blake was asking for trouble.

It's the left who take half a story and bake it into a full one without knowing the facts.

You will not find many white cop on white victims video, simply because white people tend to comply with cops.

How many times was he shot?

He didn't have any weapon in his hand, no gun , no knife. Just because its in the car, which may have been planted afterwards by racist scm cops, it doesn't warrant any threat.

Attitude, asking for etc is all hyperbole which has no justification. You can call them pigs or anything under the sun, it doesnt mean you should get shot.

Right are more violent than left and more involved in sexual abuse of minors, these are simple facts.

Black people have been shot many times while complying.

If you dont like black people and are a supporter of the likes of Boris and Trump, just say so, there will be no need for any further discussion.
 
The NBA players have agreed to resume the postseason, according to reports, but Thursday night's three playoff games will not take place.

Of course they have to. They get paid millions to put the ball in a Basket. Walking off from the court is just a facade. Tennis Champ Naomi Osaka also walked off from her Match.
Lets see how long these athletes show solidarity to their downtrodden brethren.
 
How many times was he shot?

He didn't have any weapon in his hand, no gun , no knife. Just because its in the car, which may have been planted afterwards by racist scm cops, it doesn't warrant any threat.

Attitude, asking for etc is all hyperbole which has no justification. You can call them pigs or anything under the sun, it doesnt mean you should get shot.

Right are more violent than left and more involved in sexual abuse of minors, these are simple facts.

Black people have been shot many times while complying.

If you dont like black people and are a supporter of the likes of Boris and Trump, just say so, there will be no need for any further discussion.

You think Cops planted the knife in Blake's car after he was shot? If Police want to really kill black people, you will see hundreds of them getting killed every day. They can plant as many weapons as they want in black people's pockets.

It seems excess force has been used here. The Cop needs to be punished for his act if proven in the court. Other than that there is no case of racism involved here.
 
The entire left and far left leaning media like CNN, BBC, NBC never report the true stories. They are race baiting left wing outlets who want to pull down Trump at any cost and are ready to pit whites against blacks to achieve their goals.

Out of interest which media sources do you find to be the most reliable ?
 
How many times was he shot?

He didn't have any weapon in his hand, no gun , no knife. Just because its in the car, which may have been planted afterwards by racist scm cops, it doesn't warrant any threat.

Attitude, asking for etc is all hyperbole which has no justification. You can call them pigs or anything under the sun, it doesnt mean you should get shot.

Right are more violent than left and more involved in sexual abuse of minors, these are simple facts.

Black people have been shot many times while complying.

If you dont like black people and are a supporter of the likes of Boris and Trump, just say so, there will be no need for any further discussion.

So this is what it boils down to, I don't agree with you and you come out with some lefty drivel of me not liking blacks, Trump/Boris supporter.

You need to come up with better evidence that this was a racially motivated attack other than a half baked video. You use words like 'murder' in the OP, when Blake is still alive. You are essentially acting like a BLM mouthpiece.
 
Once again the looney left have made an issue out of something that wasn't race related at all.

Weapon - Check.
Warrant - Check
Non-Compliance - Check
Wanna be a bad boy attitude - Check

But no, lets make it a race issue because terrorist organisations and sheeple alike BLM need oxygen to survive; more like bacteria ****.

Can I ask you a question ? You surely know the US military has a history of committing brutal crimes overseas especially against black and brown people. We've all heard of the My Lai massacre, Fallujah, the list goes on.

So why do you think US police, which is drawn largely from the same demographics and even less trained than soldiers, wouldn't commit acts of brutality against coloured people at home especially when very few officers have ever been prosecuted ?
 
Can I ask you a question ? You surely know the US military has a history of committing brutal crimes overseas especially against black and brown people. We've all heard of the My Lai massacre, Fallujah, the list goes on.

So why do you think US police, which is drawn largely from the same demographics and even less trained than soldiers, wouldn't commit acts of brutality against coloured people at home especially when very few officers have ever been prosecuted ?

I'm not denying US police do not commit acts of brutality, I just don't buy the claim that the US Police systematically target black people. The media has done a great job in convincing people of a perception that is not even remotely true.

Generalising an entire US police force as racists is wrong. Why is Blake's shooting described as police brutality or even racist, when the video clearly shows the cops followed standard police protocol in a country where guns are legal?
 
So this is what it boils down to, I don't agree with you and you come out with some lefty drivel of me not liking blacks, Trump/Boris supporter.

Am I wrong? You like Trump and Boris over others. Their views are no different, it's the blacks fault, the Yankee cops are angels.

You need to come up with better evidence that this was a racially motivated attack other than a half baked video. You use words like 'murder' in the OP, when Blake is still alive. You are essentially acting like a BLM mouthpiece.

Attempted murder is no different apart from the victim living with disablities from now on. Btw he has 8 holes in his body and there are witness reports he was tasered and manhandled before the video began, so you also need to get your information correct. He had no knife, no evidence he was reaching for one, more likely he was reaching for one of his children in the car.

White cops from America violently treating a black man, point blank shots doesnt need anyone to be Einstien to figure out it was a racist attack. But you dont like black peoples attidute, bad boy etc, pretty much shows your view, even though you'd never write it even on an forum.
 
Donald Trump has branded the NBA a "political organisation", as protests intensified over the shooting of a black man by police in Wisconsin.

The US president weighed in after players and teams from the top tiers of basketball, baseball, soccer, and tennis refused to participate in games scheduled on Wednesday night.

Their actions follow the Milwaukee Bucks sitting out a top-flight basketball match earlier this week over the attack on Jacob Blake - a 29-year-old black man who did not appear to be carrying a weapon when he was shot in the back several times by a police officer in the city of Kenosha on Sunday.

The incident was captured in a graphic video apparently filmed by a bystander across the street, leading to protests - some of which have erupted into rioting and looting.

It comes just months after the death of George Floyd, and at a time when the Black Lives Matter movement has continued to gain prominence across the US and around the world.

NBA players and coaches met for nearly three hours earlier this week to discuss if the season can continue, as they continue not to play until politicians act to address police brutality.

The US basketball association had managed to make a successful comeback after the sport was suspended due to coronavirus back in March.

Its first revamped games of the impeded 2019-20 season took place at the end of July, with the players and coaches having been kept in a bubble at Walt Disney World Resort in Florida.

While Mr Trump admitted he did not know much about the shooting of Mr Blake, he laid in to the basketball league teams' actions.

"They've become like a political organisation and that's not a good thing," he said on Thursday. "I don't think that's a good thing for sports or for the country."

The president previously criticised NFL players for protesting over police brutality in the US, urging team owners to sack stars who took a knee - the movement started by Colin Kaepernick.

Vice President Mike Pence's chief of staff, Marc Short, also called the recent demonstrations "absurd and silly".

"If they want to protest, I don't think we care," he said.

He even accused the NBA of having "embraced the Communist Party" for not taking similar action over China's alleged human rights violations and imposing a new security law on Hong Kong.

White House senior adviser Jared Kushner added: "NBA players are very fortunate that they have the financial position where they're able to take a night off from work without having to have the consequences to themselves financially.

"I do think that peaceful protest has a place and it has importance.

"But I do think that what we need to do right now is make sure that we take the anger that people have and we have to move from slogans to constructive solutions."

Tension and tear gas at Wisconsin protests

LA Lakers star LeBron James, widely considered to be one of the greatest players in NBA history, tweeted: "Change doesn't happen with just talk!!

"It happens with action and needs to happen NOW! ... It's on US to make a difference."

James is backing the More Than A Vote campaign, which is encouraging Black Americans to register to vote ahead of the US presidential election on 3 November.

Democratic nominee Joe Biden has said the shots fired at Mr Blake "pierce the soul of the nation."

Mr Blake is still fighting for his life - he is in a critical condition at hospital.

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-t...-after-jacob-blake-shooting-protests-12058050
 
8 holes in Blake's body, but 7 gun shots. Right.

I don't like any politican, read my posts, I see the entertainment side of things.

I guess the US judiciary is also racist because 99.99% of cops who are suspended in such cases walk free, or perhaps they followed protocal and full evidence was presented.

As for attempted murder, another lefty judgement based on nothing, but emotive rhetoric.
 
8 holes in Blake's body, but 7 gun shots. Right.

I don't like any politican, read my posts, I see the entertainment side of things.

I guess the US judiciary is also racist because 99.99% of cops who are suspended in such cases walk free, or perhaps they followed protocal and full evidence was presented.

As for attempted murder, another lefty judgement based on nothing, but emotive rhetoric.

The 8th could be an exit wound.

US as a nation is racist, it was built on racism, it was made by racism and it has become wealthy by racism, so the justice system will have plenty of racist elements too. Blacks are in jail for shoplifting but white cops go free after shooting someone, clearly not a racist society.

When you shoot someone 7 times, you are attempting to take their life not giving them a massage.
 
Can I ask you a question ? You surely know the US military has a history of committing brutal crimes overseas especially against black and brown people. We've all heard of the My Lai massacre, Fallujah, the list goes on.

So why do you think US police, which is drawn largely from the same demographics and even less trained than soldiers, wouldn't commit acts of brutality against coloured people at home especially when very few officers have ever been prosecuted ?

colored people? Fallujah? My Lai?
Fair enough....
NOW,
Why don't Asians, Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians Sri Lankans, Afghanis, Arabs, first generation Africans immigrants from Africa and millions upon millions of Latin and South Americans who reside in USA, have the same issue with police like the one, blacks have?
Ever thought about it?
 
I'm not denying US police do not commit acts of brutality, I just don't buy the claim that the US Police systematically target black people. The media has done a great job in convincing people of a perception that is not even remotely true.

Generalising an entire US police force as racists is wrong. Why is Blake's shooting described as police brutality or even racist, when the video clearly shows the cops followed standard police protocol in a country where guns are legal?

I agree generalising all individuals in any profession is foolish. There are more US cops who've saved the lives of innocent black people than the Derek Chauvins of this world, so this BLM line of "defunding the police" is utter stupidity.

However this isn't a left vs right issue. Look, if someone is brandishing a weapon and are resisting arrest, I have ZERO sympathy. The cop is entitled to respond to an imminent threat to their life. Cops are NOT though entitled to shoot someone without just cause - or kneel on a man's neck - or apply illegal chokeholds on a grounded man who's screaming he can't breathe.

Now I need to research this Jacob Blake case more carefully because it appears there's more to this than at first glance. But emotions amongst black Americans are understandably high because they've seen this movie before. To give just three examples of the systemic inequality that's angered many:

A) Unarmed (emphasis) black men are twice as likely to be killed as their white counterparts. In 2015, racial minorities made up 37% of the US, but made up 62% of unarmed victims killed by police.

B) Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for drug possession and distribution. Yet they sell and use drugs at the SAME rates as whites.

C) After the 2014 Ferguson riots (which I condemned), it was found black drivers were twice as likely to have their vehicles stopped than white drivers despite being 26% less likely to have contraband ! My source for that isn't a left-wing rag or BLM's website - but the United States Department of Justice.

I could go on about the wider criminal justice system, but sticking to police here.
 
Of course they have to. They get paid millions to put the ball in a Basket. Walking off from the court is just a facade. Tennis Champ Naomi Osaka also walked off from her Match.
Lets see how long these athletes show solidarity to their downtrodden brethren.

You expect them to give up their careers forever? How would that even make sense?

The short boycott was symbolic and mostly done to raise awareness and show solidarity, that has been achieved..
 
I agree generalising all individuals in any profession is foolish. There are more US cops who've saved the lives of innocent black people than the Derek Chauvins of this world, so this BLM line of "defunding the police" is utter stupidity.

However this isn't a left vs right issue. Look, if someone is brandishing a weapon and are resisting arrest, I have ZERO sympathy. The cop is entitled to respond to an imminent threat to their life. Cops are NOT though entitled to shoot someone without just cause - or kneel on a man's neck - or apply illegal chokeholds on a grounded man who's screaming he can't breathe.

Now I need to research this Jacob Blake case more carefully because it appears there's more to this than at first glance. But emotions amongst black Americans are understandably high because they've seen this movie before. To give just three examples of the systemic inequality that's angered many:

A) Unarmed (emphasis) black men are twice as likely to be killed as their white counterparts. In 2015, racial minorities made up 37% of the US, but made up 62% of unarmed victims killed by police.

B) Blacks are arrested at higher rates than whites for drug possession and distribution. Yet they sell and use drugs at the SAME rates as whites.

C) After the 2014 Ferguson riots (which I condemned), it was found black drivers were twice as likely to have their vehicles stopped than white drivers despite being 26% less likely to have contraband ! My source for that isn't a left-wing rag or BLM's website - but the United States Department of Justice.

I could go on about the wider criminal justice system, but sticking to police here.

The Lloyd case was indeed clear cut police brutality, but that's how the media should've reported it. Instead it was reported as a racist attack which ended up gaslighting people with pent up agression due to the C19 lockdown. Once the dust settled, facts revealed, and the full bodycam video was released, people's minds have started to change in Lloyd's case. Though as you know, the damage was done. The media has a responsibility.

As for blacks seeing themselves as victims of inequality, I totally disagree. Blacks dominate music, entertainment, and sports. Check out the top 20 richest athletes, and most of them are black Americans. They don't just dominate music, they own the richest genres - Soul, Swing, Rap/HipHop. Now, blacks are making their mark in American politics. This is progress from 60 odd years ago in the USA no?

As for the stats, why do you think blacks are more likely to be searched/killed by cops? Is it because the cops are racists? The areas have a larger black demographic, or something else, like an attitude problem based on the sense of entitlement and victimhood?

In London blacks are statistically more likely to carry out knife crime than any other race, and then we wonder why blacks are statistically more likely to be stopped and search?
 
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NFL side the Baltimore Ravens say the United States must tackle racism "head-on" and have promised to use their platform to "drive change now".

In a powerful statement on social media, the Ravens called for those responsible for the shooting of Jacob Blake to be brought to justice.

Blake, a black man, was shot and injured by police on Sunday in Wisconsin, near Milwaukee.

"This is bigger than sports," the Ravens statement said.

"Racism is embedded in the fabric of our nation's foundation and is a blemish on our country's history."

The statement also highlighted the killing of Breonna Taylor, an African-American woman shot during a drugs investigation in March.

Several NFL sides cancelled practice on Thursday, while sports across the US boycotted matches in protest at Blake's shooting.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/53944175
 
The #NBA has confirmed there will be no games for a third straight day but the play-offs will resume on Saturday.
 
Jacob Blake, the black man shot seven times in the back by police in the US state of Wisconsin, has been handcuffed to his hospital bed, his family says.

Mr Blake was paralysed by the shooting and it is not clear if he will recover.

Police in Kenosha told the BBC that Mr Blake was in custody for previous warrants and the handcuffs were policy.

Meanwhile, a court hearing for a teenager charged with killing two people during unrest over Mr Blake's shooting has been delayed by a month.

Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, had been due to appear before a court in Lake County, Illinois, for a hearing on a request to have him extradited to Wisconsin. But a judge postponed the extradition hearing until 25 September, the Associated Press reported.

Mr Rittenhouse did not appear during Friday's brief video conference.

Who is US teen accused of Wisconsin protest murders?
He faces six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon below the legal age of 18.

Kyle Rittenhouse is being defended by a prominent legal firm whose clients have included President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudolph Giuliani and former Trump adviser Carter Page, according to Reuters news agency.

Mr Blake's shooting in the city of Kenosha sparked demonstrations there and in other cities across the US. It has been relatively quiet for the past two nights.

What have the family said?
Mr Blake's father, also called Jacob Blake, spoke to reporters after visiting his son in hospital.

"I hate it that he was laying in that bed with the handcuff on to the bed," he said, quoted by the Chicago Sun-Times. "He can't go anywhere. Why do you have him cuffed to the bed?"

Mr Blake's lawyers have said it will take "a miracle" for him to walk again.

Lt Eric Klinkhammer, of the Kenosha County Sheriff's Department, told the BBC: "Mr Blake is in custody for previous felony warrants. Our policy indicates that all people in custody outside of our jail facility shall be secured with restraints."

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, asked by reporters if he was concerned that Mr Blake had been handcuffed to his bed, said: "Hell yes."

"I would have no personal understanding why that would be necessary," he said. "Certainly he's paid a horrific price already, been shot seven or eight times in the back."

Members of Mr Blake's family were due to attend a high-profile civil rights rally in Washington on Friday. It has been spurred by months of unrest over police brutality against black people.

On Thursday the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called for the immediate resignation of Kenosha's police chief and county sheriff, accusing them of defending "white supremacy" and "demonizing people who were murdered for exercising their First Amendment rights and speaking out against police violence".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53950621
 
Jacob Blake, the black man shot seven times in the back by police in the US state of Wisconsin, has been handcuffed to his hospital bed, his family says.

Mr Blake was paralysed by the shooting and it is not clear if he will recover.

Police in Kenosha told the BBC that Mr Blake was in custody for previous warrants and the handcuffs were policy.

Meanwhile, a court hearing for a teenager charged with killing two people during unrest over Mr Blake’s shooting has been delayed by a month.

Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, had been due to appear before a court in Lake County, Illinois, for a hearing on a request to have him extradited to Wisconsin. But a judge postponed the extradition hearing until 25 September, the Associated Press reported.

Mr Rittenhouse did not appear during Friday’s brief video conference.

Who is US teen accused of Wisconsin protest murders?
He faces six criminal counts, including first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon below the legal age of 18.

Kyle Rittenhouse is being defended by a prominent legal firm whose clients have included President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudolph Giuliani and former Trump adviser Carter Page, according to Reuters news agency.

Mr Blake’s shooting in the city of Kenosha sparked demonstrations there and in other cities across the US. It has been relatively quiet for the past two nights.

What have the family said?
Mr Blake’s father, also called Jacob Blake, spoke to reporters after visiting his son in hospital.

“I hate it that he was laying in that bed with the handcuff on to the bed,” he said, quoted by the Chicago Sun-Times. “He can’t go anywhere. Why do you have him cuffed to the bed?”

Mr Blake’s lawyers have said it will take “a miracle” for him to walk again.

Lt Eric Klinkhammer, of the Kenosha County Sheriff’s Department, told the BBC: “Mr Blake is in custody for previous felony warrants. Our policy indicates that all people in custody outside of our jail facility shall be secured with restraints.”

Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, asked by reporters if he was concerned that Mr Blake had been handcuffed to his bed, said: “Hell yes.”

“I would have no personal understanding why that would be necessary,” he said. “Certainly he’s paid a horrific price already, been shot seven or eight times in the back.”

Members of Mr Blake’s family were due to attend a high-profile civil rights rally in Washington on Friday. It has been spurred by months of unrest over police brutality against black people.

On Thursday the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called for the immediate resignation of Kenosha’s police chief and county sheriff, accusing them of defending “white supremacy” and “demonizing people who were murdered for exercising their First Amendment rights and speaking out against police violence”.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53950621

Almost sounds like Rittenhouse is the victim.

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colored people? Fallujah? My Lai?
Fair enough....
NOW,
Why don't Asians, Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians Sri Lankans, Afghanis, Arabs, first generation Africans immigrants from Africa and millions upon millions of Latin and South Americans who reside in USA, have the same issue with police like the one, blacks have?
Ever thought about it?

Ever thought about doing a little research ?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/12/latinos-police-brutality-protests-george-floyd

‘We’re suffering the same abuses’: Latinos hear their stories echoed in police brutality protests

https://time.com/5869568/latinos-police-violence/?amp=true

It's Long Past Time We Recognized All the Latinos Killed at the Hands of Police
 
A black man shot seven times in the back by US police had a knife and fought with officers beforehand, putting one in a headlock and shrugging off two Taser attempts, it is claimed.

Jacob Blake, 29, has been left paralysed from the waist down following the shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and is being treated in hospital.

The new claim came from the Kenosha police union which offered the most detailed account yet from the officers' perspective of the moments before the shooting.

Last Sunday's incident led to peaceful protests and also violent demonstrations, including the fatal shooting of two people in the US city on Tuesday.

Ben Crump, a lawyer for the Blake family, has called for the arrest of Rusten Sheskey - the officer who shot Mr Blake - and for the two other officers involved in the shooting, Vincent Arenas and Brittany Meronek, to be sacked.

All three officers have now been put on administrative leave.

Mr Crump has claimed Mr Blake was only trying to break up a domestic dispute and did nothing to provoke police, saying witnesses did not see him with a knife.

Mobile phone footage, filmed by Raysean White, showed Mr Sheskey and another officer following Mr Blake with their guns drawn as he walked around the front of a parked SUV. Mr Blake's three children were in the back.

The officers had been sent there following a complaint by a telephone caller that Mr Blake was trying to steal their keys and vehicle, said Brendan Matthews, a lawyer for the Kenosha Professional Police Association.

Mr Blake was armed with a knife, but officers did not initially see it, Mr Matthews said.

The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side of the vehicle, he added.

Mr White said he saw Mr Blake scuffling with three officers and heard them shout 'drop the knife, drop the knife' before there was gunfire. He said he did not see a knife in Mr Blake's hands.

Investigators have said officers saw a knife on the floor of the car. They have not said whether Mr Blake threatened anyone with it.

Officers made several requests to Mr Blake to drop the knife, but he was uncooperative, Mr Matthews said, adding officers used a Taser on Mr Blake, but it did not incapacitate him.

Jacob Blake Sr, the father of Jacob Blake, addresses the crowd

Mr Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock, Mr Matthews said. A second stun from a Taser also did not stop him, he added.

As Mr Blake opened the driver's door of the SUV, Mr Sheskey pulled on Mr Blake's shirt and then opened fire.

Officers drew their firearms based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less-lethal means, Mr Matthews said.

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-bl...-before-shooting-claims-police-union-12059179
 
A black man shot seven times in the back by US police had a knife and fought with officers beforehand, putting one in a headlock and shrugging off two Taser attempts, it is claimed.

Jacob Blake, 29, has been left paralysed from the waist down following the shooting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and is being treated in hospital.

The new claim came from the Kenosha police union which offered the most detailed account yet from the officers' perspective of the moments before the shooting.

Last Sunday's incident led to peaceful protests and also violent demonstrations, including the fatal shooting of two people in the US city on Tuesday.

Ben Crump, a lawyer for the Blake family, has called for the arrest of Rusten Sheskey - the officer who shot Mr Blake - and for the two other officers involved in the shooting, Vincent Arenas and Brittany Meronek, to be sacked.

All three officers have now been put on administrative leave.

Mr Crump has claimed Mr Blake was only trying to break up a domestic dispute and did nothing to provoke police, saying witnesses did not see him with a knife.

Mobile phone footage, filmed by Raysean White, showed Mr Sheskey and another officer following Mr Blake with their guns drawn as he walked around the front of a parked SUV. Mr Blake's three children were in the back.

The officers had been sent there following a complaint by a telephone caller that Mr Blake was trying to steal their keys and vehicle, said Brendan Matthews, a lawyer for the Kenosha Professional Police Association.

Mr Blake was armed with a knife, but officers did not initially see it, Mr Matthews said.

The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side of the vehicle, he added.

Mr White said he saw Mr Blake scuffling with three officers and heard them shout 'drop the knife, drop the knife' before there was gunfire. He said he did not see a knife in Mr Blake's hands.

Investigators have said officers saw a knife on the floor of the car. They have not said whether Mr Blake threatened anyone with it.

Officers made several requests to Mr Blake to drop the knife, but he was uncooperative, Mr Matthews said, adding officers used a Taser on Mr Blake, but it did not incapacitate him.

Jacob Blake Sr, the father of Jacob Blake, addresses the crowd

Mr Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock, Mr Matthews said. A second stun from a Taser also did not stop him, he added.

As Mr Blake opened the driver's door of the SUV, Mr Sheskey pulled on Mr Blake's shirt and then opened fire.

Officers drew their firearms based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less-lethal means, Mr Matthews said.

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-bl...-before-shooting-claims-police-union-12059179

I bet the lefty/BLM mouthpieces must be ruing the day they claimed 'racism' on the back of a half baked video.

The sad part is people are falling for it, including on PP.

Lefty loons should go change their profile flags for solidarity as a last resort. :)))
 
I bet the lefty/BLM mouthpieces must be ruing the day they claimed 'racism' on the back of a half baked video.

The sad part is people are falling for it, including on PP.

Lefty loons should go change their profile flags for solidarity as a last resort. :)))


If the police can bring white mass shooters in alive, then there is no reason for them not being able to bring in black people in alive as well.
 
Antifa is a violent group. They are anarchists.

BLM is fine but they should stop unreasonable demands like "defund the police".

Cops need more training. They also need more armors so that they don't pull triggers out of fear.

Yes because currently the craze to defund/dismantle Police is going on.

https://time.com/5876471/minneapolis-dismantle-police-department/

Irrespective after seeing such a terrible shooting one might as well think they are right in demanding dismantling of Police.

Defund the police does not mean there is no police. Its a way to break the police unions, and hire officers on new contracts at a much lower salary, and use that money to fund social programs.

Police are there to protect the public, and not behave like an occupying army. There is something seriously wrong with the police in the US, and those issues are institutional.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...efund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/
 
Defund the police does not mean there is no police. Its a way to break the police unions, and hire officers on new contracts at a much lower salary, and use that money to fund social programs.

Police are there to protect the public, and not behave like an occupying army. There is something seriously wrong with the police in the US, and those issues are institutional.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...efund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/

Some of the BLM folks want police completely gone. That's the issue.

More accountability is the way to go. Also, I support giving them more armors so that they don't shoot out of fear.
 
The video reports 7 gunshots were heard, this doesn't mean victim was shot 7 times.

Blake doesn't have to point a weapon to a cop to be considered a threat.

His bad boy attitude is exactly why he got shot. Nothing to do with legality. Notice how the cop doesn't shoot until the last moment.

Blake was asking for trouble.

It's the left who take half a story and bake it into a full one without knowing the facts.

You will not find many white cop on white victims video, simply because white people tend to comply with cops.

No because that wont get the same media attention. And most of the time cops dont shoot white people even if they misbehave.
 
Some of the BLM folks want police completely gone. That's the issue.

More accountability is the way to go. Also, I support giving them more armors so that they don't shoot out of fear.

The people who want police completely gone are minoirty, and they are in the wrong.

Majority of cops in England dont even carry guns. US police have fear because of their training. Police is not supposed to be an Army.

And accountability is good, however its difficult when the police union is so powerful. Imagine if there was no video, majority of time when they shoot someone they would simply say resisting arrest, or they thought he was reaching for a gun or they were scared. So mandatory body cams are a must.
 
No because that wont get the same media attention. And most of the time cops dont shoot white people even if they misbehave.

Cops shoot twice as many white people than black people. 420 white people have been killed by police this year.
 
Whites are like 5 to 6 times the Black population.

Blacks are responsible for 80% of murders so they are more likely to come into contact with the police. There are many issues that contribute to why police come into contact with the blacks. Most black men grow up without a father (at home) for some reason most black men do not bring up their children and most black men grow up in a single mother household which leads to a lack of discipline and work ethic. And as someone mentioned earlier whites are more likely to comply with police.
 
Blacks are responsible for 80% of murders so they are more likely to come into contact with the police. There are many issues that contribute to why police come into contact with the blacks. Most black men grow up without a father (at home) for some reason most black men do not bring up their children and most black men grow up in a single mother household which leads to a lack of discipline and work ethic. And as someone mentioned earlier whites are more likely to comply with police.

Source?
 
Blacks are responsible for 80% of murders so they are more likely to come into contact with the police. There are many issues that contribute to why police come into contact with the blacks.

So even if they commit 80% of murders, and commit majority of crimes does not mean they have to be shot by the police. The police's job is not supposed to be the judge jury executioner.

They could Tase, tackle, or use some other non lethal means to arrest someone who is being uncooperative.

By all means if Black people commit the most crimes, they should be given the most punishment.

However we have all seen videos of white mass shooters being brought in alive, so people dont understand why black men cant be brought in alive.
 

Evidence supporting the role of structural factors in high black crime rates comes from multiple studies. For example, Robert J. Sampson has reported that most of the reason violent crime rates are so high among blacks originates mainly from unemployment, economic deprivation, and family disorganization. Specifically, he found that "the scarcity of employed black men increases the prevalence of families headed by females in black communities" and that the increased prevalence of such families in turn results in family disruption that significantly increases black murder and robbery rates. Sampson, et al. and Phillips have reported that at least half of the black-white homicide offending differential is attributable to structural neighborhood factors like parents' marital status and social context. Multiple other studies have found a link between black crime rates and structural factors, such as single-parent families and structural inequality

There seems to be a reluctance to openly discuss these issues, we need to do something other than blame the police.

The first step act is tackling the issue from the law side but the sociable aspect is bein
 

Evidence supporting the role of structural factors in high black crime rates comes from multiple studies. For example, Robert J. Sampson has reported that most of the reason violent crime rates are so high among blacks originates mainly from unemployment, economic deprivation, and family disorganization. Specifically, he found that "the scarcity of employed black men increases the prevalence of families headed by females in black communities" and that the increased prevalence of such families in turn results in family disruption that significantly increases black murder and robbery rates.[2] Sampson, et al.[3] and Phillips[84] have reported that at least half of the black-white homicide offending differential is attributable to structural neighborhood factors like parents' marital status and social context. Multiple other studies have found a link between black crime rates and structural factors, such as single-parent families and structural inequality

You dont need to search hard to find out about these issues.
 
Thanks but where in those stats does it say or prove that 80% of Murders are committed by Blacks? I may be missing something, can you point it out?

In 2018: 2925 blacks were murdered, 2600 were murdered by blacks and 254 were murdered by whites. the rest by hispanics and others.
 
In 2018: 2925 blacks were murdered, 2600 were murdered by blacks and 254 were murdered by whites. the rest by hispanics and others.

Ok so 80% of black murders were committed by other Black people. Your post made it seem like 80% of overall murders in the US were done by African Americans. I am sure that was not deliberate though. I mean if you look at those stats, majority of white people murdered, were also murdered by other Whites. All these stats prove is that a person is more likely to be murdered by someone their own race.
 
There seems to be a reluctance to openly discuss these issues, we need to do something other than blame the police.

The first step act is tackling the issue from the law side but the sociable aspect is bein

I agree if there are any underlying social or economic issues that contribute to high crime rates then those issues need to be addressed. The problem is that these issue are so politicized now that most seem to be a taking a extreme position.
 
Ok so 80% of black murders were committed by other Black people. Your post made it seem like 80% of overall murders in the US were done by African Americans. I am sure that was not deliberate though. I mean if you look at those stats, majority of white people murdered, were also murdered by other Whites. All these stats prove is that a person is more likely to be murdered by someone their own race.

Whites murdered 2677 fellow whites.

Blacks murdered 2600 fellow blacks.

Whites make up 64% of population
blacks make up 16% of population
 
I agree if there are any underlying social or economic issues that contribute to high crime rates then those issues need to be addressed. The problem is that these issue are so politicized now that most seem to be a taking a extreme position.

You cant seem to discuss these issues without being branded a racist. There is some good work being done though inside the black community but unfortunately they get get labeled as uncle tom or coconut.
 
Thanks but where in those stats does it say or prove that 80% of Murders are committed by Blacks? I may be missing something, can you point it out?

You are not missing anything. It doesn't say 80 anywhere. By adding it up you can see that Blacks commit around half of the homicides.


For those arguing that because of this its ok for police to be more suspicious of black people, well then i argue that 88% of murders are committed by men, so focus on all men then.
 
Whites murdered 2677 fellow whites.

Blacks murdered 2600 fellow blacks.

Whites make up 64% of population
blacks make up 16% of population

Men commit 88 % of Homicides. Men are 50% of the population. Why are men so violent? Why have men been killing other people since the beginning of time?

White Men, Black Men, Brown Men, etc

Men who are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic, etc

Maybe instead of focusing on race, focus on gender.
 
Whites murdered 2677 fellow whites.

Blacks murdered 2600 fellow blacks.

Whites make up 64% of population
blacks make up 16% of population

Wrong data analysis. Read below

Men commit 88 % of Homicides. Men are 50% of the population. Why are men so violent? Why have men been killing other people since the beginning of time?

White Men, Black Men, Brown Men, etc

Men who are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic, etc

Maybe instead of focusing on race, focus on gender.

Nope. Don't agree.
You MUST go granular to get the real true pic that presents the hard facts. Sugar coating it won't help.


6.2% of the total US Population committed 54.9% of all homicides in 2017, the most recent year available on the FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR).

That 6.2% is the sum of 5.9% Black males plus 0.3% Black females.

Another way to look at it is that for each homicide committed by a White, Blacks commit 9 homicides.

Black males commit more homicides than White males who commit more homicides than White females who commit significantly more homicides than Black females.

The good news -- if you're White -- is that your chance of being killed by a Black female is virtually nil, and just a little under 5% by a Black male.

If you're Black, I might suggest you should probably self-quarantine to reduce chances of death, except that isn't likely to stop the very popular home invasion method of murder and mayhem.

However, relocating to another country would significantly reduce the chances.

I guess it's a good thing BLM isn't protesting the high homicide rates.
 
Men commit 88 % of Homicides. Men are 50% of the population. Why are men so violent? Why have men been killing other people since the beginning of time?

White Men, Black Men, Brown Men, etc

Men who are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Atheist, Agnostic, etc

Maybe instead of focusing on race, focus on gender.

Another way to look at it is this.
If men are violent then men are also very constructive.
And if we go granular, it's gonna hit you again. If white population is violent and it's racist and it has done a lot of injustice, then trust me, white population has done QUITE A LOT OF GOOD for humanity as well.

Here you go.
I am not saying this, you heard it from the horse's mouth.

If you are UK based, you might wanna turn on the captions or hear it a couple of times to fully understand his words.

 
Wrong data analysis. Read below



Nope. Don't agree.
You MUST go granular to get the real true pic that presents the hard facts. Sugar coating it won't help.



6.2% of the total US Population committed 54.9% of all homicides in 2017, the most recent year available on the FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR).

That 6.2% is the sum of 5.9% Black males plus 0.3% Black females.

Another way to look at it is that for each homicide committed by a White, Blacks commit 9 homicides.

Black males commit more homicides than White males who commit more homicides than White females who commit significantly more homicides than Black females.

The good news -- if you're White -- is that your chance of being killed by a Black female is virtually nil, and just a little under 5% by a Black male.

If you're Black, I might suggest you should probably self-quarantine to reduce chances of death, except that isn't likely to stop the very popular home invasion method of murder and mayhem.

However, relocating to another country would significantly reduce the chances.

I guess it's a good thing BLM isn't protesting the high homicide rates.

I wasn't trying to sugar coat. I was simply trying to point out that if you use statistics to blame blacks, then one can also use statistics to blame men. I agree that more homicides are committed by black men. However there are various reasons for that, and that does not justify the police shooting unarmed men during arrests, which was the point of the thread.

Also the immigrant African community is doing very well in the US, which shows that race has nothing to do with crime.
 
US President Donald Trump is to visit the city in Wisconsin which has seen widespread unrest since a black man was shot in the back and seriously injured by a policeman.

Mr Trump will travel to Kenosha on Tuesday, the White House said.

The president will meet with law enforcement and assess the damage from the recent protests.

Jacob Blake was paralysed after being shot seven times by an officer and it is not clear if he will walk again.

The shooting sparked sometimes violent demonstrations in Kenosha and in other cities across the US.

The year had already seen widespread protests against racism and police brutality over the death of in police custody of another black man, George Floyd.

What do we know about Trump's visit?
The president will meet with local police and "survey damage from recent riots", White House spokesman Judd Deere said.

Asked if the president would meet the family of Mr Blake, Mr Deere said the schedule had yet to be confirmed.

The US president has said little directly about last Sunday's shooting.

When asked on Friday if he thought the officer who shot Mr Blake should be charged, the president said: "Well I'm looking into it very strongly. I'll be getting reports," adding that he "didn't like the sight of it".

President Trump has made law and order a key part of his bid for re-election this year.

In his speech at the Republican National Convention he condemned the "rioting, looting, arson and violence we have seen in Democrat-run cities", citing Kenosha and several others.

Wisconsin is a swing state that backed Barack Obama twice but was narrowly won by Donald Trump in 2016 by just over 20,000 votes.

What's the latest in Kenosha?
Around 1,000 people took to the streets of Kenosha on Saturday chanting "Black lives matter".

Jacob Blake Sr called for protesters to remain peaceful while calling for justice for his son.

"Good people of this city understand. If we tear it up we have nothing," he told the crowd. "Stop it. Show them for one night we don't have to tear up nothing."

More than 1,000 National Guard soldiers were in Kenosha, many from other states, the Reuters news agency reported.

Who is US teen accused of Wisconsin protest murders?

Meanwhile, lawyers for a teenager charged with killing two people during the unrest in Kenosha have said he will fight charges against him on the grounds of self-defence.

Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, had told journalists it was "his job" to guard buildings in Kenosha against protesters.

Videos on social media appeared to show a man with a rifle being chased by a crowd before he fell to the ground and appeared to fire at them.

"Kyle Rittenhouse stood up to protect his community and his country," John Pierce, one of Rittenhouse's lawyers, said on Twitter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53962653
 
Another way to look at it is this.
If men are violent then men are also very constructive.
And if we go granular, it's gonna hit you again. If white population is violent and it's racist and it has done a lot of injustice, then trust me, white population has done QUITE A LOT OF GOOD for humanity as well.

Yes men can be violent and constructive.

And for the last 300 years most of the innovation was done by white men.

But that is neither here nor there. Does not justify the treatment of black men by police in the US, which is the point of this thread.

Here you go.
I am not saying this, you heard it from the horse's mouth.

If you are UK based, you might wanna turn on the captions or hear it a couple of times to fully understand his words.

There is something called confirmation bias. You can get make a lot of money if you are a member of a minority group and you say things that the majority already thinks about your own group, that they are too afraid too say.

This is what that guy is doing.
 
If your response to seeing a Black man shot over and over in the back is to say "he should've followed instructions, " you are the problem. "Not complying with an officer is NOT punishable by death under any circumstances, let alone an extra-judicial execution.

If your response to seeing a black man shot multiple times in the back while running away from the police is to say "he should've followed instructions," you are the problem.


If your response to seeing a black man getting chocked to death over a $20 bill and resisting arrest is to say "he should've followed instructions," you are the problem.

If your response is "black kill more black people", you are the problem.

If your response is "why can't black people be like "desi", then you are the problem because you haven't understood "racism" in US.
 
Powerful message to highlight the thought process of Desi community in the US.

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If your response to seeing a Black man shot over and over in the back is to say "he should've followed instructions, " you are the problem. "Not complying with an officer is NOT punishable by death under any circumstances, let alone an extra-judicial execution.

If your response to seeing a black man shot multiple times in the back while running away from the police is to say "he should've followed instructions," you are the problem.


If your response to seeing a black man getting chocked to death over a $20 bill and resisting arrest is to say "he should've followed instructions," you are the problem.

If your response is "black kill more black people", you are the problem.

If your response is "why can't black people be like "desi", then you are the problem because you haven't understood "racism" in US.

Next time when police has a loaded gun pointing towards you, are you free not to follow the instructions.
 
I believe you've highlighted the problem with Police who are trigger happy.

And I believe if you had posted something with data, logic and facts to have arrived at a conclusion, in the name of voicing your opinion.

But, your 5 paragraphs starting with “IF” and ending at “You are the problem”, didn’t leave much of choice but to give you freedom of not following instructions when police is holding a gun at you.

And by doing that, you will prove that at least YOU are not the problem (anymore).
 
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Cops shoot twice as many white people than black people. 420 white people have been killed by police this year.

Yes but there are six times as many whites as blacks in USA so blacks are getting shot by police at a disproportionate rate.
 
Yes but there are six times as many whites as blacks in USA so blacks are getting shot by police at a disproportionate rate.

Blacks are six times as likely to break the law as whites, so they will come into contact with the police the same amount of times.

Just to give you some context in 2017 there were 593,000 interracial crimes of violence between whites and blacks, blacks were responsible for 530,000 violent crimes against whites and whites responsible for 53,000 violent crimes against whites.
 
Next time when police has a loaded gun pointing towards you, are you free not to follow the instructions.

If they cooperate they can get shot anyway. That’s why many blacks don’t cooperate. They think they are in peril for their lives so might as well try to get away or resist.
 
Blacks are six times as likely to break the law as whites, so they will come into contact with the police the same amount of times.

Just to give you some context in 2017 there were 593,000 interracial crimes of violence between whites and blacks, blacks were responsible for 530,000 violent crimes against whites and whites responsible for 53,000 violent crimes against whites.

Whites are many times more likely than blacks to be involved in corporate crime or fraud.

But they are usually more wealthy so will go into custody willingly in the expectation that their lawyer will minimise any punitive damage.

Poor people have no such resource available to them.

White and Asian people in USA have never been enslaved, never been subjected to Jim Crow, never been the victims of a violent system which begats violence in turn. Treat people as less than human for four hundred years and some will not act humanely.
 
Whites are many times more likely than blacks to be involved in corporate crime or fraud.

But they are usually more wealthy so will go into custody willingly in the expectation that their lawyer will minimise any punitive damage.

Poor people have no such resource available to them.

White and Asian people in USA have never been enslaved, never been subjected to Jim Crow, never been the victims of a violent system which begats violence in turn. Treat people as less than human for four hundred years and some will not act humanely.

Cops are responsible for so many deaths per arrest, it is almost the same for whites as blacks. Are you advocating that the police should kill more white people to appease blacks for past crimes that the British government introduced around the world.
 
Cops are responsible for so many deaths per arrest, it is almost the same for whites as blacks. Are you advocating that the police should kill more white people to appease blacks for past crimes that the British government introduced around the world.

That’s a rather tortuous set of false equivalences for just one sentence.

It’s over twice as high per capita for blacks. I am advocating for the police to stop applying excessive and disproportionate use of force based on race.
 
Is there a statistic to show how many cops are shot by black people in the last 12 months, last 2 years and 5 years?

Because we hear a lot about cops feeling they’re in danger etc so I’d be interested to see the numbers
 
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