[VIDEO] Rapists should be publicly hanged, chemically castrated: PM Imran Khan

[Nadeemp]

I am from Peshawar - and I can certify that this is a lie to a moronic extent. You lost all your credibility for taking shelter under such a laughable nonsense.

Sir I am not from Peshawar but have been there multiple times on extended visits. Unless you are an elite ,then there is a circle of people where you will see women. Where ordinary people live and go about things there is hardly a women to be seen in sight.

 

[shaz619]

Morality is taught as part of culture, it is not natural law.

Many paedophile offenders were themselves molested as children. I heard tell of a teenager who was imprisoned for molesting his kid brother. He told the police that his father had done it to him and he thought this was how men were supposed to behave. Such a person is redeemable - they just have to be re-educated.

Others can at least be scared into behaving themselves.

Assuming you are correct, how can you ensure they will be re-educated to a point we know they wont do it again 100% - it just doesn't happen and our system is not capable of doing that anyway and it is a big ask regardless, it is far more simple to just kill them off

 

[Robert]

Assuming you are correct, how can you ensure they will be re-educated to a point we know they wont do it again 100% - it just doesn't happen and our system is not capable of doing that anyway and it is a big ask regardless, it is far more simple to just kill them off

Nobody can ever ensure any human behavioural outcome. We employ prison psychologists to make risk assessments of whether a given prisoner is likely to reoffend.

Have do you know a given offender hasn’t reformed? You would execute them anyway? For something they might not do? You’re not following your own logic,

 

[sweep_shot]

Nobody can ever ensure any human behavioural outcome. We employ prison psychologists to make risk assessments of whether a given prisoner is likely to reoffend.

Have do you know a given offender hasn’t reformed? You would execute them anyway? For something they might not do? You’re not following your own logic,

You are yet to answer one question. How can the victim find justice?

Also, this is rape we are talking about. Not some small crimes like robbery or pickpocketing.

 

[Robert]

You are yet to answer one question. How can the victim find justice?

Also, this is rape we are talking about. Not some small crimes like robbery or pickpocketing.

Depends on your definition of justice. A perpetrator who has committed hurt cannot then unhurt. A victim will not gain peace from hurting the perpetrator in revenge.

The only way is to leave the emotional trauma behind in some way.

 

[shaz619]

Nobody can ever ensure any human behavioural outcome. We employ prison psychologists to make risk assessments of whether a given prisoner is likely to reoffend.

Have do you know a given offender hasn’t reformed? You would execute them anyway? For something they might not do? You’re not following your own logic,

I think you don't understand that I agree with this punishment being applied to those who commit such henious primes because I don't believe they can reform, you're not following your logic though because you're telling me that no one can ever ensure any behavioural outcome; however unlike you I rather not take the risk with this and allow these offenders back into society, how can you even want that knowing their reformation isn't a given

 

[Robert]

I think you don't understand that I agree with this punishment being applied to those who commit such henious primes because I don't believe they can reform, you're not following your logic though because you're telling me that no one can ever ensure any behavioural outcome; however unlike you I rather not take the risk with this and allow these offenders back into society, how can you even want that knowing their reformation isn't a given

Because I want to live in a decent society that seeks to make its offenders better, and there are countless examples of such successes.

 

[shaz619]

Because I want to live in a decent society that seeks to make its offenders better, and there are countless examples of such successes.

Seeks to make rapists and child abusers better ? that is impossible, just fantasy talk.

Will Robert welcome these rapists and child abusers into his home, let his daughter date/marry them and have tea/crumpets everyday with them while the offender reminices about that time they.....would you accept a rapist and child abuser as your neighbour / let then pick up your grand kids and what not, forget that; let the child abuser baby sit them. Thanks Robert for your decent ways.

 

[ManFan]

Just saw news that a 70 year old woman in PAK was raped by a guy less than 40 years of age.

Yet the people in this thread want to push for rehabilitative punishment. What the **** don’t you understand about rape being inhumane?

 

[msaaim89]

Just saw news that a 70 year old woman in PAK was raped by a guy less than 40 years of age.

Yet the people in this thread want to push for rehabilitative punishment. What the **** don’t you understand about rape being inhumane?

It is absolutely ludicrous that some here believe in rehabilitation for such crimes.

For them it's all about showing how 'enlightened' they are with theit modern system which completely ignores the victims sufferings.

 

[Bigboii]

Just saying if a rapist know's that he'll be hanged wouldn't he kill his victims because if there is no one to testify about who did it he wont be caught and he'll be saved

But for 8 year sentence he probably wont risk a "death sentence" by killing his victim

This can have an adverse effect on murder rates (in rape situations) increasing

copied from another thread

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Just saying if a rapist know's that he'll be hanged wouldn't he kill his victims because if there is no one to testify about who did it he wont be caught and he'll be saved

But for 8 year sentence he probably wont risk a "death sentence" by killing his victim

This can have an adverse effect on murder rates (in rape situations) increasing

copied from another thread

That's why you have DNA testing.

 

[Bigboii]

That's why you have DNA testing.

Punjab police that too in semi-rural or rural areas they barely take fingerprints and you expect them to get DNA testing?

Hell they don't even write firs and even if they do they don't pursue the case (in 95% cases with no media attention)

So we know that in most cases nothing will happen so why are we increasing the likely hood of rape victims getting murdered!

 

[Robert]

Seeks to make rapists and child abusers better ? that is impossible, just fantasy talk.

I suggest you talk to prison officers, probation officers and psychologists to get an informed view on this subject.

 

[Robert]

It is absolutely ludicrous that some here believe in rehabilitation for such crimes.

For them it's all about showing how 'enlightened' they are with theit modern system which completely ignores the victims sufferings.

If you execute the offender, do you honestly believe that the victim’s suffering will go away?

 

[Robert]

Just saying if a rapist know's that he'll be hanged wouldn't he kill his victims because if there is no one to testify about who did it he wont be caught and he'll be saved

But for 8 year sentence he probably wont risk a "death sentence" by killing his victim

This can have an adverse effect on murder rates (in rape situations) increasing

copied from another thread

Most offenders don’t think about consequences at all, so stiff jail terms are no deterrent.

Consider that in Western nations the murder rate has gone down since the death penalty was abolished, not up.

The rehabilitation part of a prison sentence is to reach them that their actions have consequences. If they accept that lesson, they will not reoffend.

 

[Angrez Pakistani]

I think all these questions should only be reserved for nations that are other than Pakistan.

 

[msaaim89]

If you execute the offender, do you honestly believe that the victim’s suffering will go away?

No, however they will be glad that:

A) Their tax money would not be going towards criminals having a smashing time in prison
B) Impossible to reoffend

 

[CricketCartoons]

Consider that in Western nations the murder rate has gone down since the death penalty was abolished, not up.

Some murderers were obviously killing because of the death penalty. After it was abolished, they had a change of heart and murder rates went down.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think all these questions should only be reserved for nations that are other than Pakistan.

Why only Pakistan? I myself argued that Pakistan should not be considered by the same standards as civilised western nations, but I would argue the same against many third world countries, I wouldn't be so bigoted to single them out as the only country not abiding by western values of humanity and reason.

 

[James]

Don’t agree with the public hanging, but I would back long jail sentences along with chemical castration (as an ongoing program, in jail and after they have left jail) — a huge number of paedophiles and sexual offenders, unfortunately, reoffend.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Punjab police that too in semi-rural or rural areas they barely take fingerprints and you expect them to get DNA testing?

Hell they don't even write firs and even if they do they don't pursue the case (in 95% cases with no media attention)

So we know that in most cases nothing will happen so why are we increasing the likely hood of rape victims getting murdered!

Who wants to go jail?

Rapists might as well kill their victims to avoid long jail terms as well. No?

Most rapists and pedophiles are hardly ever concerned about the consequences.

And there is a reason why there is a sex offender registration program in the western world - THOSE SICK MONSTERS ARE HIGHLY LIKELY TO STRIKE AGAIN. So they must be tracked. And many of them are repeated offenders that live freely in our communities and pose a lot greater risk to our kids.

 

[shaz619]

I suggest you talk to prison officers, probation officers and psychologists to get an informed view on this subject.

I have but for lesser crimes; most didn't feel reformation is possible. I have an advanced qualification in psychology as well.

You didn't answer the other part of my post:

Will Robert welcome these rapists and child abusers into his home, let his daughter date/marry them and have tea/crumpets everyday with them while the offender reminices about that time they.....would you accept a rapist and child abuser as your neighbour / let then pick up your grand kids and what not, forget that; let the child abuser baby sit them ?

 

[MenInG]

KARACHI: An Anti-terrorism Court (ATC) in Gilgit-Baltistan on Friday sentenced to death two accused - Mazhar and Tajammul for subjecting a teenager to sexual harassment.

The court also sentenced lifetime imprisonment to another accused named Mubarak Ali son of Ghulam Mehdi resident of Krismathung Skardu, in the same case.

In July, local police took into custody the three accused for sexually harassing a teenage boy Shujaat for consecutive six months in Skardu-Baltistan and filming the 'unnatural offence.

They were tried by the court established under the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA). First Information Report (FIR) No-54/20 was registered in City Police Station Skardu, the capital of Baltistan.

Police had recovered many videos of sexual intercourse from the possession of the accused Muzafar Abbas, son of Ghulam Abbas, Mubarak Ali, son of Ghulam Mehdi and Tajamul Hussain, son of Mosa Ali, residents of Krisma Thang Olding," SP had said.

While quoting the victim Shujaat Ali's father Asghar, son of Naseeb Ali, a permanent resident of Union Council Gultari Shakhma, the SSP Skardu Muhammad Ishaq had told Business Recorder that the accused sexually assaulted his teenage son and filmed the crime and used it to blackmail the child, besides taking money from him for the last five to six months.

The distressed boy who used to work in a vegetable shop attempted to commit suicide after being subjected to the crime, this extreme step led to know his parents the actual case.

The boy was also receiving life threatening calls from the accused. the accused had also physically tortured and extorted money, threatening the child with releasing of a video clip of him being sexually harassed.

The victim family had urged the court to ensure speedy justice, besides punishing the accused as early as possible.

The family had also requested the force commander Gilgit-Baltistan, and 62 brigade District Skardu to play their role to ensure justice. A JIT was formed to assertain the case. However, the case was moved to ATC.

The court's decision, a copy of which available with Business Recorder stated "accused Muzafar Abbas son of Ghulam Abbas and Tajamul Hussain son of Musa Ali Nasir residents of Krismathung Skardu have been convicted under section 365-A PPC while altering setion 365 PPC into 365-A PPC under section 227 Cr.PC and sentenced them to death."

The above named accused have also been convicted under section 377 PPC read with section 7 of the Anti-terrorism Act 1997 and sentenced them tor life rigorous imprisonment and fine of Rs. 10,000,00/- (Rupees ten hundred thousand only) each to be paid to the victim shujaat Ali.

It said the accused Muzafar Abbas has also been convicted under section 367 PPC and sentenced him for ten (10) year rigorous imprisonment.

Accused Muzafar Abbas has also been convicted under section 506 (ii) PPC and sentenced him tor three (3) year rigorous imprisonment.

Accused Muzafar Abbas has also been convicted under section 384 PPC and sentenced him for three (3) year rigorous imprisonment.

Accused Mubarak Ali son of Ghulam Mehdi resident of Krismathung Skardu has been convicted under section 377/34 PPC and sentenced him for life imprisonment and fine of Rs. 500,000/- (Rupees Five hundred thousand only) to be paid to the victim Shujaat Ali.

https://www.brecorder.com/news/40021378/two-men-handed-death-penalty-for-sexual-harassment-in-gb

 

[Abdullah719]

Pakistan isn’t introducing law to publicly hang rapists: minister

Pakistan’s Human Rights Minister Shireen Mazari said on Friday that her government was not introducing any law aimed at publicly hanging rapists in the country.

The prime minister has made it clear that they could not allow public executions, Mazari said during her informal conversation with reporters in Islamabad. PM Khan said such a law could not be made because of international agreements.

The debate regarding punishment for rapists has been raging on since a woman was gang-raped in front of her children in Lahore on September 9.

The case attracted additional anger after a police official seemed to blame the victim because she was driving at night without a male companion. PM Khan has previously suggested chemical castration as the punishment for rapists.

The government is making efforts to prevent these incidents, Mazari said. Family of a victim won’t be able to make a compromise now, she added.

The minister said women police would investigate these cases and a centre would be established to pursue them in courts.

https://www.samaa.tv/news/pakistan/...ducing-law-to-publicly-hang-rapists-minister/

 

[MenInG]

Federal minister for human rights Shireen Mazari on Friday said that no law for public hanging of rapists is being considered but a decision was made in the cabinet meeting to bring in stringent laws for punishment of such offenders.

She said that the government will soon bring a bill regarding sexual assault of women, children and transgenders.

However, the punishment for rapists could not be decided, the minister said.

Mazari said that nobody including media would be allowed to reveal the names of the rape victims. She warned that whoever discloses the rape victim's name would be punished severely.

The minister for human rights also said that women in large numbers would be inducted into the police.

Calls for extreme punishment for rapists have been growing louder since the gang-rape of a woman on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway earlier this month.

Owing to the increased spotlight on the issue, a startling rise in the number of such cases being reported has been witnessed, leading to more anger and frustration and greater pressure on the government to pass legislation that can act as a deterrent to such crimes.

The prime minister, in a joint session of the parliament on September 16, had promised that a bill will soon be introduced to address the menace.

"We are thinking of passing legislation that not only protects our women but also our children whose lives are ruined.

"Rape should be viewed as something that destroys lives. In our culture, families suffer also, and the children, especially, have life-long trauma," he said.

The prime minister said the government will have a three-tiered approach.

"Firstly, we will have registration. Sex offenders everywhere are registered. They are usually repeat offenders," he said.

He said that far too many incidences go unreported. "We always find out that a small number is reported.

"The bill will not only focus on exemplary punishment, but also conviction, to begin with, which is not easy. The kind of evidence required is very difficult to put forward."

He said that for the victim to stand in the witness box and provide a statement is also a very difficult task and so, the a "comprehensive legislation" will be introduced also keeping these aspects in mind.

 

[Robert]

I have but for lesser crimes; most didn't feel reformation is possible. I have an advanced qualification in psychology as well.

You didn't answer the other part of my post:

Will Robert welcome these rapists and child abusers into his home, let his daughter date/marry them and have tea/crumpets everyday with them while the offender reminices about that time they.....would you accept a rapist and child abuser as your neighbour / let then pick up your grand kids and what not, forget that; let the child abuser baby sit them ?

I would not allow such a person near small children unaccompanied, and would try to persuade my daughters to be very careful. But as long as the offender appears repentant and behaves decently I will be civil. It people see that society works they are more likely to try to be a responsible part of it.

But then I wouldn’t know what they had done, so it’s a moot point. So I would proceed as I do with every person. Do they seem trustworthy and genuine?

For someone with an advanced qualification in psychology you seen judgemental and emotion-driven, rather than reason-driven on this issue. You don’t talk like someone who has been involved with rehabilitative work. Some paedophile offenders have been reformed - with therapy they can come to understand that what was done to them as children is not normal, and that the offending behaviour pattern can stop.

 

[MenInG]

With 3 of the Lahore attackers caught - I wonder if people's views have changed on punishment?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I would not allow such a person near small children unaccompanied, and would try to persuade my daughters to be very careful. But as long as the offender appears repentant and behaves decently I will be civil. It people see that society works they are more likely to try to be a responsible part of it.

But then I wouldn’t know what they had done, so it’s a moot point. So I would proceed as I do with every person. Do they seem trustworthy and genuine?

For someone with an advanced qualification in psychology you seen judgemental and emotion-driven, rather than reason-driven on this issue. You don’t talk like someone who has been involved with rehabilitative work. Some paedophile offenders have been reformed - with therapy they can come to understand that what was done to them as children is not normal, and that the offending behaviour pattern can stop.

Seriously dude, you obviously have the right to voice your opinion but I can't believe you.
Such sympathy with those sick monsters, is amazing, and very thought provoking.

 

[Bigboii]

I would not allow such a person near small children unaccompanied, and would try to persuade my daughters to be very careful. But as long as the offender appears repentant and behaves decently I will be civil. It people see that society works they are more likely to try to be a responsible part of it.

But then I wouldn’t know what they had done, so it’s a moot point. So I would proceed as I do with every person. Do they seem trustworthy and genuine?

For someone with an advanced qualification in psychology you seen judgemental and emotion-driven, rather than reason-driven on this issue. You don’t talk like someone who has been involved with rehabilitative work. Some paedophile offenders have been reformed - with therapy they can come to understand that what was done to them as children is not normal, and that the offending behaviour pattern can stop.

than gay "rehabilitative work" can also work...

they can control and stop but people cannot change their sexual preferences

 

[Robert]

than gay "rehabilitative work" can also work...

they can control and stop but people cannot change their sexual preferences

The difference is that gay people do no harm, whereas paedophiles can and so must be stopped and corrected.

 

[msaaim89]

Before they hang him, they need to find out whom was providing insider information and then arrest them also.

Should also be severe punishment for those that previously released knowing his history. Find out how he managed to get away, whom did he bribe.

Entire structure needs re-organisation.

 

[Syed1]

Before they hang him, they need to find out whom was providing insider information and then arrest them also.

Should also be severe punishment for those that previously released knowing his history. Find out how he managed to get away, whom did he bribe.

Entire structure needs re-organisation.

Apparently he used the coronavirus situation to his advantage and wore masks at all times to not be identified. Only got caught because he ran out of money and contacted his wife. Punjab police was working with the wife and she agreed to meet him at someplace near Faisalabad. When he arrived there he was arrested by officers in plain clothes.

 

[shaz619]

I would not allow such a person near small children unaccompanied, and would try to persuade my daughters to be very careful. But as long as the offender appears repentant and behaves decently I will be civil. It people see that society works they are more likely to try to be a responsible part of it.

But then I wouldn’t know what they had done, so it’s a moot point. So I would proceed as I do with every person. Do they seem trustworthy and genuine?

For someone with an advanced qualification in psychology you seen judgemental and emotion-driven, rather than reason-driven on this issue. You don’t talk like someone who has been involved with rehabilitative work. Some paedophile offenders have been reformed - with therapy they can come to understand that what was done to them as children is not normal, and that the offending behaviour pattern can stop.

For someone who presumes rehabilitation is possible for those who rape and commit paedophilia you seem rather sceptical about allowing your daughter to mingle / form relationships with these people which shows me you are either very hypocritical, delusional, out of touch with the world or very conflicted about this due to some personal experiences, I want to overlook your age but advanced qualifications are not attained through emotion or lack of reason; in this case it would be the study of behaviours which drive specific crimes and as far as rehabilitative work is concerned, majority of those involved in this are a lot more pessimistic about rapists and paedophiles not posing a threat to society then anyone on this forum

 

[Robert]

For someone who presumes rehabilitation is possible for those who rape and commit paedophilia you seem rather sceptical about allowing your daughter to mingle / form relationships with these people which shows me you are either very hypocritical, delusional, out of touch with the world or very conflicted about this due to some personal experiences, I want to overlook your age but advanced qualifications are not attained through emotion or lack of reason; in this case it would be the study of behaviours which drive specific crimes and as far as rehabilitative work is concerned, majority of those involved in this are a lot more pessimistic about rapists and paedophiles not posing a threat to society then anyone on this forum

I am hopeful that everyone can change and improve. But I would be prudent and guard my girl-children around a known ex-offender, in the same way that I wear a seatbelt to drive my car. There is no conflict here.

 

[shaz619]

I am hopeful that everyone can change and improve. But I would be prudent and guard my girl-children around a known ex-offender, in the same way that I wear a seatbelt to drive my car. There is no conflict here.

Not wearing a seatbelt will not result in the rape of said girl children though

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The difference is that gay people do no harm, whereas paedophiles can and so must be stopped and corrected.

Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that gay people do no harm? Why is it accepted that incarcerating people according to sex leads to abuse in prison?

 

[Robert]

Don't you think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that gay people do no harm? Why is it accepted that incarcerating people according to sex leads to abuse in prison?

Gay people do no harm through consensual expression of their sexuality. Paedophiles case harm, by definition as children cannot give consent.

I don’t understand your second question.

 

[Robert]

Not wearing a seatbelt will not result in the rape of said girl children though

I refer to the principle of assessing risk to me or mine and putting sensible controls in place to mitigate the risk.

 

[Technics 1210]

Airbags have saved more lives than seatbelts.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Imran Khan on Saturday announced that the federal government is bringing a "stringent and holistic anti-rape ordinance" next week.

Taking to Twitter, PM Imran said the ordinance will close all “loopholes”.

The premier said that he spoke to a police hero who played a key role in the recovery of Kashmore rape victim and lauded his bravery.

The premier lauded Sindh Police ASI Mohammad Bux Buriro and his daughter for their part in rescuing a four-year-old girl from men who tortured and gang-raped her.

"Spoke to ASI Buriro lauding his and his daughter's exemplary initiative and courage in the arrest of Kashmore rapist," he wrote in a tweet. "The nation is proud of them and he has given positive uplift to the image of the police."

The premier was referring to the sexual assault of a minor and her mother by three men in Kashmore.

A young woman from Karachi was duped by three men who took her to Kashmore with the promise of a job. They gang-raped her before selling her to Khairullah Bugti — a member of the gang — while the child remained with the other two.

Later, she was let go on the condition that she would lure another woman. However, she approached the Kashmore police who helped her recover the daughter.

Speaking to Zara Hut Kay hosts on Dawn TV, SSP Amjad Ahmed Khan said since the police department lacked female officers, ASI Buriro offered to use his daughter to set trap for the suspects..

Rape laws in Pakistan
There has been much debate around rape laws in Pakistan. The incident of Kasur's Zainab and more recently the motorway gang-rape in Lahore sparked a debate on the severity of punishment to prevent sexual assaults.

Speaking at a joint sitting of the Parliament after passage of bills pertaining to the FATF, PM Imran had said that the government will soon introduce a three-tier legislation including registration of sex offenders, exemplary punishment for rape and child abuse and effective policing.

In an interview, PM Imran had suggested public hanging and chemical castrating the convicts to curb rising sexual violence in the country.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: The government is all set to promulgate next week an ordinance seeking establishment of special courts for speedy trial of rape cases, suggesting steps for protection of witnesses and creating a separate prosecution network for this purpose.

This was said by Adviser to the Prime Minister on Parliamentary Affairs Babar Awan during an exclusive chat with Dawn hours after Prime Minister Imran Khan through a tweet announced that the government had planned to bring a “stringent and holistic anti-rape ordinance closing all loopholes”.

The prime minister had posted the tweet after talking to Assistant Sub-Inspector (ASI) of Sindh police Mohammad Bux Buriro on phone, who had played a major role with his daughter in the arrest of a man accused of raping a woman and her minor daughter in Kashmore.

Read: Sindh govt lauds bravery of cop-daughter duo in aiding arrest of Kashmore rape suspect

Mr Awan, who is also a member of the Cabinet Committee on Legislative Cases, said the prime minister was very much concerned over the recent incidents of rape in different parts of the country.

He said the ordinance had been drafted in line with the prime minister’s directives to his legal team for preparing the law covering “four sides”, including protection of the victim so that her personal trauma could not become public and protection of witnesses.

Mr Awan said under the proposed law rape cases would not be investigated by ordinary police officials and only a gazzeted officer up to the level of DIG (deputy inspector general) or SSP (senior superintendent of police) would monitor these cases. He said the proposed law also suggested steps for speedy disposal of cases. He said in the last few years, over 21,000 rape cases were registered in the country and “only few hundreds of them could go for trial”.

To cover the loopholes and ensure timely justice, a new and separate prosecution network was being created, the adviser said.

Giving details, he said the properties of the convicts in such cases would be forfeited for paying compensation to the victims.

In order to create deterrence in the society, he said, “ultimate and stringent punishments” would be awarded to the culprits. He did not elaborate the measures which the law suggests for this purpose, but ruled out the option of public hanging as demanded by several political leaders, including some ministers.

Mr Awan said special courts would be set up in all the divisions to prevent delay in completion of the trials.

When his attention was drawn towards the criticism from the opposition over the government for relying on presidential ordinances for legislation, Mr Awan said the 18th Amendment had validated promulgation of ordinances which were considered “valid legislation” in many countries, including the US.

Moreover, he said, ordinances were promulgated when the parliament was not in session. He said since the parliament was not in session these days due to Covid-19 situation, ordinances could be promulgated by the government as per the constitution. And these ordinances, he added, eventually went to the parliament which finally enacted the laws.

As far as the opposition’s criticism was concerned, “the opposition loves and adores only one ordinance namely National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO),” he said in an apparent reference to the ordinance promulgated by the former military dictator Gen Pervez Musharraf in 2007 ending cases registered against people on political grounds.

Earlier, Prime Minister Imran Khan through his official social media account on Twitter lauded ASI Buriro and his daughter for showing bravery in the arrest of the Kashmore rape suspect.

“Spoke to ASI Buriro lauding his and his daughter’s exemplary initiative and courage in arrest of Kashmore rapist. The nation is proud of them and he has given positive uplift to image of police,” wrote the prime minister.

Sindh police had managed to arrest the alleged rapist of a woman and her four-year daughter in Kashmore with the help of ASI Buriro and his daughter, who trapped the main accused through a covert operation.

Speaking at a news conference in Karachi on Friday, Sindh government spokesperson Murtaza Wahab had said they would write to the Centre to bestow the highest police award on ASI Buriro and civil award on his daughter for the role they had played in arresting the main suspect.

The spokesperson’s comments came a day after a man was arrested for allegedly subjecting the woman and her minor daughter to rape for two days after duping the women with a job offer in northern Sindh’s Kashmore district.

Kashmore police had set up a trap by using a decoy, the daughter of ASI Buriro. The victim along with the ASI’s daughter contacted the main suspect over phone and invited him to a hotel where police arrested him.

Published in Dawn, November 15th, 2020

 

[saeedhk]

So what has IK done since the horrific motorway rape? Every day, we hear of children as young as three years old being killed after being raped but the government does not seem to care. I remember IK said that they are bringing in a bill that would reduce such crimes. What has IK done in 2.5 years to reduce the widespread violence against women and children in this country? He seems to be too busy firing off tweets at Modi, RSS and Macron.

 

[El Generico]

So what has IK done since the horrific motorway rape? Every day, we hear of children as young as three years old being killed after being raped but the government does not seem to care. I remember IK said that they are bringing in a bill that would reduce such crimes. What has IK done in 2.5 years to reduce the widespread violence against women and children in this country? He seems to be too busy firing off tweets at Modi, RSS and Macron.

It seems like they are coming up with a proposed three tiered system which includes a sex offender registry. Apparently the proposal also deals with trying to make it easier for the victims to testify in court. A bit late but it is a a step in the right direction.


Pakistan's proposed law against rape, gender-based-violence to be presented next week: Mazari

Noting that the government would have a three-tiered approach towards the surging harassment cases of the country, PM Imran Khan had said: "Firstly, we will have registration. Sex offenders everywhere are registered. They are usually repeated offenders.

"It will not only focus on exemplary punishment but also conviction, to begin with, which is not easy. The kind of evidence required is very difficult to put forward," he had said.

Acknowledging that for the victim to stand in the witness box and provide a statement was also a very difficult task, the premier had noted that "comprehensive legislation" would also be introduced keeping these aspects in mind.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/319607-pa...der-based-violence-to-be-presented-on-tuesday

 

[El Generico]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PM had mtg today with Law Minister, Barrister Ali Zafar, myself & PS Azam Khan to finalise the anti rape/GBV law. Should be ready for Cabinet Tuesday InshaAllah. Will be a comprehensive law removing problems victims face at all levels incl post-trauma prof help <a href="https://t.co/tq38V1xCFD">pic.twitter.com/tq38V1xCFD</a></p>— Shireen Mazari (@ShireenMazari1) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShireenMazari1/status/1329790399934816262?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It seems like IK is doing more then just tweeting [MENTION=48598]saeedhk[/MENTION].

 

[Kaddy]

So what has IK done since the horrific motorway rape? Every day, we hear of children as young as three years old being killed after being raped but the government does not seem to care. I remember IK said that they are bringing in a bill that would reduce such crimes. What has IK done in 2.5 years to reduce the widespread violence against women and children in this country? He seems to be too busy firing off tweets at Modi, RSS and Macron.

Government is about to bring a new ordinance in a week or two.

Special courts will be established for rape cases and as per Imran Khan strict punishments will be given to the rapists.

Hopefully it'll reduce the crimes against women and children.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: To curb increasing rape incidents in the country, the federal cabinet on Tuesday approved in principle two anti-rape ordinances that “change the definition of rape” and are aimed at awarding exemplary punishment to rapists, including chemical castration and hanging, but not in public.

A meeting of the cabinet, chaired by Prime Minister Imran Khan, also endorsed a recent decision of the Economic Coor*dination Committee regarding restructuring and retrenchment in the Pakistan International Airlines.

The cabinet also discussed over Rs1 trillion Karachi Transfor*mation Plan and the prime minister observed that the plan, aimed at addressing basic civic issues of the metropolis, was not continuing at the pace he desired.

The government termed the approval of the Anti-Rape (Inves*tigation and Trial) Ordinance 2020 and Pakistan Penal Code (Amendment) Ordinance 2020 a “big decision” and said it was for the first time in the history of the country that the definition of rape had been changed by incorporating “transgender” and “gang-rape” in it. The proposed law also prohibits controversial “two-finger” test by doctors that involves testing for laxity of vaginal muscles with fingers.

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Proposed ordinances change definition of rape, allow chemical castration, hanging of convicts

“The federal cabinet has approved anti-rape ordinances which change the basic definition of rape and suggest severe punishment for gang rape and hanging of rapists,” said Information Minister Shibli Faraz in a post-cabinet meeting press conference.

He said the ordinances would be finalised in a week.

Human Rights Minister Dr Shireen Mazari said in tweet: “Cabinet Committee on Disposal of Legislative Cases (CCLC) will now finalise (the ordinances) and it should become operational in next few days. It includes an expansive definition of rape, establishment of special court, anti-rape crisis cell, protection of victims and witnesses and prohibition of two-finger test,” she said.

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Mr Faraz said Prime Minister Khan, after taking serious notice of a recent rape incident of a mother and her daughter in Sindh, had asked Law Minister Farogh Naseem to prepare comprehensive ordinances encompassing fast-track trial of the accused, comprehensive definition of rape, inclusion of new offences and strict punishments for convicted rapists.

The minister said as the ordinances were of great importance and involved punitive actions against the rapists, it was forwarded to the law division for further improvement.

He expressed the hope that the initiative would significantly reduce the number of rape incidents in the country by creating deterrence against the offence in the society.

Minister for Science and Technology Fawad Chaudhry, while talking to Dawn, termed approval of the ordinances a landmark achievement of the government by addressing one of the gravest issues of the society. He said the ordinances also permitted chemical castration of habitual rapists. This sort of punishment was first hinted at by the prime minister some time back when he said such punishment was being awarded to habitual rapists in developed countries.

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Another minister said some of the cabinet members called for public hanging of rapists but some others opposed it.

Minister for Religious Affairs Noorul Haq Qadri demanded that rapists should be hanged in public while Law Minister Naseem said public hanging was “un-Islamic” and “unconstitutional” as described by the Supreme Court.

Later, after a discussion on a proposal to appoint lawmakers in board of directors of government entities, Prime Minister Khan said that the matter should be sent to the Supreme Court for seeking guidance.

Following the deferring of payment of Pakistan’s $2 billion loans by G-20 states, the cabinet permitted the Economic Affairs Division to make new agreements of re-scheduling of loans with 16 countries of G-20.

To promote information technology in the country, the prime minister ordered establishment of 50 technology zones in different cities, including Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Haripur and Quetta.

No wheat, sugar crisis

During the press conference, federal ministers Hammad Azhar and Khusro Bakhtiar claimed that there was no shortage of wheat and sugar in the county and their prices were declining by Rs10 to Rs12 at wholesale level.

“Reduction of Rs10 to Rs12 has been witnessed in ex-mill price of sugar during the last 10 days,” Mr Azhar claimed.

He said it was for the first time in the county’s history that sugarcane crushing had started in time by the sugar mill owners.

Mr Bakhtiar said the price of 40kg bag of wheat flour had been by Rs200 in the country. “It (a 40kg bag of flour) is now selling at the rate of Rs2,200 against its previous rate of Rs2,400,” he added.

No restriction for Nawaz

On the political front, Mr Faraz said there was no restriction on former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, his sons and former finance minister Ishaq Dar from coming to Pakistan to attend the funeral of the PML-N supremo’s mother.

He said jailed PML-N leaders Shehbaz Sharif and Hamza Shehbaz were being released on parole to that they could attend the funeral of Begum Shamim Akhtar.

On Monday, the PML-N had sought at least a two-week parole for party president Shehbaz and his son Hamza to participate in the last rites of Begum Shamim. Both Shehbaz and Hamza are in Kot Lakhpat jail on judicial remand in a money laundering and assets beyond means case.

Begum Shamim Akhtar, mother of Mr Nawaz and Mr Shehbaz, had passed away in London on Nov 22. She was in her 90s and had been unwell for a month or so, sources in the party had said.

Arrangements are being made to bring her body to Lahore in a couple of days to be buried next to the grave of her husband Mian Sharif at the family’s Jati Umra estate.

“They (Sharifs) are welcome to come to Pakistan and attend the funeral,” Mr Faraz said, adding that opposition was trying to do politics on the matter.

“The narrative of state suppression is a deliberate propaganda and an attempt to politicise this issue. Who are you trying to fool?” the minister said.

Published in Dawn, November 25th, 2020

 

[MenInG]

The Cabinet Committee on Disposal of Legislative Cases (CCLC) on Thursday approved two anti-rape ordinances aimed at setting up special courts for sexual offences against women and children and introducing harsher punishments for convicts.

The Ministry of Law and Justice also officially revealed the salient features of the two ordinances, which expand the definition of rape and introduce the concept of chemical castration "mainly as a form of rehabilitation".

"As [the] world marks the 16 Days of Activism against Gender-Based Violence, the PTI-led government in Pakistan is all set to promulgate historic anti-rape legislation to set up special courts for rape and other sexual offences against women and children," a statement issued by the ministry said.

According to the press release, a meeting of the CCLC chaired by Law Minister Farogh Naseem green-lighted the ordinances, which the federal cabinet had approved in principle on Wednesday. Information Minister Shibli Faraz had told a press conference the ordinances would be finalised in a week.

"This is an important moment in Pakistan’s legislative history, and [for] the protection of rights of women, girls and children across the country," the law ministry said, adding that Naseem had "worked extensively" to finalise the legislation with his team's assistance over the course of this month.

According to the ministry, the two "state-of-the-art pieces of legislation" — the Anti-Rape (Investigation and Trial) Ordinance, 2020 and the Criminal Law (Amendment) Ordinance, 2020 — were in line with the constitutional guarantees of Pakistan as well as international treaties the country has signed.

The laws, which according to the ministry provide mechanisms to arrest rape and sexual abuse crimes against women and children, will now be placed before the cabinet for final approval before being sent to the president to be promulgated. In the 90 days following that, the ordinances must be submitted to the parliament for ratification.

Salient features of the draft Anti-Rape (Investigation and Trial) Ordinance, 2020:
Establishment of special courts
Creation of Anti-Rape Crisis Cells to be headed by commissioners or deputy commissioners, who will ensure prompt registration of the first information report, medical examination, forensic analysis, etc.
Abolishing the "inhumane and degrading" two-finger virginity test for rape victims during medico-legal examinations, and eliminating any attachment of probative value to it
Putting a bar on the cross-examination of a rape victim by the accused, thereby only allowing the judge and the accused’s lawyers to cross-examine the victim
In-camera trials
Protection for the victim and witnesses
Use of modern devices during investigation and trial
Provision of legal assistance to the victims through the Legal Aid and Justice Authority
Creation of Independent Support Advisers, who will provide support to the victims
Appointment of special prosecutors for the special courts
Investigation by joint investigation teams headed by district police officers
Creation of a special committee on pro bono basis to ensure overall implementation of the law
Rules to be issued by the prime minister upon the recommendation of the special committee for the purposes of issuing medico-legal examination and investigation and prosecution guidelines based on the latest modern techniques and devices
Maintenance of data of sex offenders' register through NADRA
A public reporting mechanism
Salient features of the draft Criminal Law (Amendment) Ordinance, 2020:
Substitution of the existing Section 375 of the Pakistan Penal Code with a new provision so as to provide a new definition of “rape”, which would extend to females of all ages and male victims under the age of 18 years
In addition to rape, the offence of gang-rape has also been "considered to be addressed"
In respect of first or repeated offenders, the concept of chemical castration has also been introduced "mainly as a form of rehabilitation, and subject to consent"
'Closing all loopholes
On Tuesday, the law minister had told reporters that since the parliament was not in session, an ordinance would be promulgated to "toughen the laws" against rapists.

"The penalties include death penalty, imprisonment for [the] entire life, 10 to 25 years of imprisonment and chemical castration," a statement by the law ministry had quoted Naseem as saying.

The minister said an offender could be subjected to chemical castration that would last either "for some time or for life".

The idea of severe penalties was first floated by Prime Minister Imran Khan, who had said during a television interview in September that rapists should either be hanged publicly or chemically castrated to curb rising sex crimes.

His statement had come in the wake of the motorway gang-rape incident that caused an outpouring of anger across the country and brought sexual violence against women into national focus.

After an incident involving the alleged rape of a woman and her minor daughter in Sindh's Kashmore district, the premier earlier this month announced that the government would bring a “stringent and holistic anti-rape ordinance closing all loopholes”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1592535/c...e-legislation-providing-for-harsh-punishments

 

[MenInG]

President Dr Arif Alvi on Tuesday approved the Anti-Rape Ordinance 2020 that will ensure speedy trial of rape cases with women and children as victims and will also allow for chemical castration of those convicted of such offences.

A statement issued by the President House said that under the ordinance, special courts would be established throughout the country for speedy trials of sexual assault suspects. The courts would have to wrap up the cases within four months, the statement added.

Under the ordinance, Prime Minister's Anti-Rape Crisis Cells would also be set up which would be responsible for conducting medico-legal examination within six hours of the incident.

A countrywide registry of sexual offenders would also be established with the help of the National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra).

Under the ordinance, disclosing identities of victims would be prohibited and declared a punishable offence, the statement said. Police and government officials who show negligence in investigating the cases would be jailed for three years along with the imposition of fines. Additionally, police and government officials who provide false information would also be punished.

Repeat offenders would be chemically castrated under the guidance of a notified board, the statement read.

It further said that a fund would be set up by the prime minister, money from which would be used to establish special courts while federal and provincial governments would also allocate grants to the fund. Help would also be taken from local, national and international agencies along with non-governmental organisations and individuals.

The ordinance comes months after the motorway gang-rape incident that caused an outpouring of anger across the country and brought sexual violence against women into national focus.

After an incident involving the alleged rape of a woman and her minor daughter in Sindh's Kashmore district, Prime Minister Imran Khan had announced in November that the government would bring a "stringent and holistic anti-rape ordinance closing all loopholes".

https://www.dawn.com/news/1595907/p...nce-to-ensure-speedy-trial-strict-punishments

 

[shaykh]

I don’t get the reformation argument ...on what basis should a rapist be given that privilege?...

That said I’m curious as to how rape is currently dealt with...wasn’t there a woman a couple months ago who said she was gang raped and the police official said she was partly to blame for being out late at night and not being on a busier road...what is the presumption here?...that men are inherently rapists cos it’s a woman’s fault for being out late?...

Considering the conviction rate is 2% then such statements of chemical castration and the death penalty ring hollow...and come across as pandering...is there still not a culture where reporting rape is still frowned upon...and why report it if the police don’t take you seriously or blame you?...

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I don’t get the reformation argument ...on what basis should a rapist be given that privilege?...

That said I’m curious as to how rape is currently dealt with...wasn’t there a woman a couple months ago who said she was gang raped and the police official said she was partly to blame for being out late at night and not being on a busier road...what is the presumption here?...that men are inherently rapists cos it’s a woman’s fault for being out late?...

Considering the conviction rate is 2% then such statements of chemical castration and the death penalty ring hollow...and come across as pandering...is there still not a culture where reporting rape is still frowned upon...and why report it if the police don’t take you seriously or blame you?...

This is actually a great point.
Since we now have new technologies, we should always first look into the option of DNA based evidence rather than depending on witnesses.

If there is an undeniable DNA based evidence on hands, nothing much else should be needed to convict the accusers and bring them under the weight of law.

I know in places like Pakistan, there is always almost a greater probability that males are the perpetrators; however, that doesn't automatically mean that all females are angels and should be given a free hand by default.

The courts, judges and juries should be, fair, just and wise enough not to unconsciously convict the accused males before the trial even begins.

Sometimes it could be the females who pull such sick stunts.

This is not Pakistan, but gives you an example,

Take a look at time stamp @16:45

 

[shaykh]

This is actually a great point.
Since we now have new technologies, we should always first look into the option of DNA based evidence rather than depending on witnesses.

If there is an undeniable DNA based evidence on hands, nothing much else should be needed to convict the accusers and bring them under the weight of law.

I know in places like Pakistan, there is always almost a greater probability that males are the perpetrators; however, that doesn't automatically mean that all females are angels and should be given a free hand by default.

The courts, judges and juries should be, fair, just and wise enough not to unconsciously convict the accused males before the trial even begins.

Sometimes it could be the females who pull such sick stunts.

This is not Pakistan, but gives you an example,

Take a look at time stamp @16:45

He got very lucky with that video ...this is what makes sexual assault difficult ...rape is very difficult to prove ...above is the extreme of simply taking the women’s word for it ...and at the other side of the spectrum women are just dismissed...obviously above testimony alone could have got the man in trouble but generally things like physical and circumstantial evidence are also criteria...

Even then though it’s a notoriously difficult thing to prove...things like abrasions and bruising help but don’t need to be present for assault ...in short it’s not easy ...which is why many accusations never make it to court...

 

[MenInG]

Islamabad, Pakistan – Pakistan’s president has passed an ordinance aimed at ensuring rape trials are completed within four months, while also setting up a national sex offender registry.

“The President of the country Dr Arif Alvi has approved the Anti-Rape Ordinance 2020,” said a statement from his office on Tuesday, adding that the ordinance will remain valid for 120 days until it needs to be ratified by parliament.

“The ordinance will help expedite [legal] cases of sexual abuse against women and children.”

The new ordinance will set up special courts to try cases of sexual abuse of women and children, requiring all proceedings to be completed within four months.

It also establishes a special government cell to expedite the processing of legal cases, giving it the power to intervene and order medical examinations of rape survivors within six hours of a complaint being registered.

A lack of adequate medical evidence has often been at the heart of acquittals in rape cases in the country.

Last month, the government in Punjab province, the country’s most populous, banned the use of the archaic and invasive “two-finger” test by medical examiners to determine whether a woman was raped.

The country’s federal ministry of human rights has also opposed the use of that test.

In September, the gang rape of a woman on a major highway in Punjab sparked national outrage.

Following that incident, Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan called for repeat offenders in rape cases to be chemically castrated, and members of his ruling Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf promised that use of the death penalty would be expanded in rape cases.

Local media quoted the new bill as legalising chemical castration as a form of punishment for repeat offenders.

It also criminalised the act of revealing rape survivors’ identities.

“Violence against women and girls – including rape, so-called honor killings, acid attacks, domestic violence, and forced marriage – remains a serious problem [in Pakistan],” reads a Human Rights Watch 2019 report on the country.

“Pakistani activists estimate that there are about 1,000 ‘honor’ killings every year.”

The country ranks 130th on the UNDP’s Gender Inequality Index and 151st, or third-last, on the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/15/pakistans-president-speed-up-legislation-against-rape

 

[shaykh]

Islamabad, Pakistan – Pakistan’s president has passed an ordinance aimed at ensuring rape trials are completed within four months, while also setting up a national sex offender registry.

“The President of the country Dr Arif Alvi has approved the Anti-Rape Ordinance 2020,” said a statement from his office on Tuesday, adding that the ordinance will remain valid for 120 days until it needs to be ratified by parliament.

“The ordinance will help expedite [legal] cases of sexual abuse against women and children.”

The new ordinance will set up special courts to try cases of sexual abuse of women and children, requiring all proceedings to be completed within four months.

It also establishes a special government cell to expedite the processing of legal cases, giving it the power to intervene and order medical examinations of rape survivors within six hours of a complaint being registered.

A lack of adequate medical evidence has often been at the heart of acquittals in rape cases in the country.

Last month, the government in Punjab province, the country’s most populous, banned the use of the archaic and invasive “two-finger” test by medical examiners to determine whether a woman was raped.

The country’s federal ministry of human rights has also opposed the use of that test.

In September, the gang rape of a woman on a major highway in Punjab sparked national outrage.

Following that incident, Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan called for repeat offenders in rape cases to be chemically castrated, and members of his ruling Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf promised that use of the death penalty would be expanded in rape cases.

Local media quoted the new bill as legalising chemical castration as a form of punishment for repeat offenders.

It also criminalised the act of revealing rape survivors’ identities.

“Violence against women and girls – including rape, so-called honor killings, acid attacks, domestic violence, and forced marriage – remains a serious problem [in Pakistan],” reads a Human Rights Watch 2019 report on the country.

“Pakistani activists estimate that there are about 1,000 ‘honor’ killings every year.”

The country ranks 130th on the UNDP’s Gender Inequality Index and 151st, or third-last, on the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/15/pakistans-president-speed-up-legislation-against-rape

What is a two finger test?...

This is why I feel the discussion on death penalties etc are moot...the methods for determining whether a rape has been committed seem archaic...

 

[MenInG]

The opposition members of the law and justice parliamentary body on Thursday expressed their concerns over the setting up of special courts to decide rape cases under a new ordinance and the procedure for appointing their judges.

The committee adjourned the matter until the next meeting, giving the law minister time to respond to the questions and objections of the opposition members.

The Standing Committee on Law and Justice of the National Assembly held a meeting, presided over by its chairman, Riaz Fatyana. The meeting discussed the Anti-Rape (Investigation and Trial) Ordinance.
The law secretary told the committee that special courts as well an anti-rape cell would be set up under the new law.

In addition, he said modern devices would be used in investigating rape cases.

“Data on sex offenders would be compiled by the NADRA [National Database and Registration Authority],” he elaborated.

“Criminal proceedings will also be initiated against anyone who files a false complaint.”

The opposition members of the committee expressed their concerns over the establishment of special courts and the procedure for appointing judges.

Committee member Naveed Qamar of the PPP said the existing session courts should be empowered for this purpose.

Rana Sanaullah Khan of the PML-N, also a member, claimed that some people were unable to “digest” the independence of the judiciary.

“There are conspiracies being hatched by people sitting in different place and a 10-year package is being introduced for retired judges,” he added.

“This bill [anti-rape] is malicious and it should not be passed by the committee.”

Malika Bukhari, a member of the committee from the ruling PTI and the parliamentary secretary for law and justice, said the bill should be viewed from a political perspective.

“Try to reconsider your behaviour by listening to the arguments. This is a national issue,” she told the opposition members.

“We have added a lot of clauses in this bill. We will notify the rules soon. This law is for [the protection of] the girls and boys of Pakistan.”

Law Minister Dr Farogh Naseem told the committee that specialist judges and prosecutors were needed to deal with rape cases.

“Therefore, it is necessary to have special courts,” he added. “There is no 10-year package.”

The law minister requested that the matter be postponed till the next meeting so he could give detailed answers to the opposition members.

The chairman of the committee postponed the discussion until the next meeting.

Separately, President Dr Arif Alvi approved empowering sessions courts to hear rape cases until special ones were set up for this purpose.

The president made the decision after consulting with the chief justice of Pakistan.

President Alvi also approved a summary for the appointment of 13 additional judges to the Punjab High Court and two to the Balochistan High Court.

The president reduced the jail terms of prisoners not involved in heinous crimes by 90 days on the occasion of the upcoming Eidul Fitr.

Express Tribune

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: Almost all women lawmakers of the National Assembly, both from treasury and opposition benches, on Friday unanimously demanded public hanging of all rapists to curb rising cases of harassment and abuse of women and children in the country.

The demand was made in the National Assembly by women members of Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI), Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).

The issue of an electric transformer blast in Hyderabad was also taken up in the lower house of parliament. The blast left several people dead.

“We 69 women MNAs demand quick judgement in rape cases and public hanging of rapists,” said Syeda Nosheen Iftikhar of PML-N.

The women legislators also called for formation of a parliamentary committee to review rape cases.

“If Pakistan has to be run, then rapists and killers must be hanged in public. We will not let the country be run in the way it is being run,” said PTI lawmaker Asma Qadeer who broke into tears while speaking on the floor of the house about rising cases of rape of women and children and the recent one in Islamabad in which a woman, Noor Muqaddam, was slaughtered by her “friend” Zahir Jaffer.

Members of PTI, PML-N and PPP join hands on issue

She kept on weeping while narrating incidents of rape of children and women, recalling that recently a Qari had raped a little girl in a village.

Maulana Akbar Chitrali endorsed the demand of women MNAs and said Islamic punishment must be given in the country and rapists and killers must be hanged at public places to stop such incidents from happening.

“When we raise the issue of Islamic punishments we are criticised that these punishments are being demanded in this modern age,” he added.

PTI MNA Ghazala Saifi said the rapists and killers of women and children should be punished through speedy trials.

Mehnaz Akbar Aziz of PML-N said the killer of Noor Muqaddam must be hanged in public so that such incidents did not take place in future.

Shamim Ara Panhwar of PPP said that in the light of increasing incidents of child abuse and rape of women, there was no other option but to hang rapists and killers in public.

Zil-i-Huma of the ruling PTI lamented that the Peshawar High Court on Friday acquitted the principal of a college who had allegedly raped a girl student.

Federal Minister for Human Rights Dr Shireen Mazari said the government had recently passed a law against rape cases, but only laws would not work because there was a need to change the mindset of society about women.

She said that the government had to protect all women as women would no more accept their humiliation and suffering.

She expressed satisfaction that the investigation into the Noor Muqaddam case was being conducted in the right direction. She said that false reports were being spread on social media about the case to create confusion.

MNA Sabir Qaimkhani, while speaking on a point of order, highlighted the pathetic condition of Hyderabad electric supply system and said that incidents of transformer blasts had become common in the city.

Deputy Speaker of National Assembly Qasim Suri and PPP MNA Agha Rafi demanded an inquiry into the incident.

Published in Dawn, July 31st, 2021

 

[MenInG]

The Senate Standing Committee on Law and Justice on Wednesday approved the Anti-Rape (Investigation and Trail) Bill, 2021 stipulating the formation of special courts to hear rape cases.

The National Assembly had on June 10 passed the bill, which was later referred to the Senate for approval.

The Senate Standing Committee on Law and Justice has Syed Ali Zafar as its chairperson, while other members are: Azam Nazeer Tarar, Farooq Hamid Naek, Kamran Murtaza, Mian Raza Rabbani, Muhammad Azam Khan Swati, Muhammad Hamayun Mohmand, Musadik Masood Malik, Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar, Samina Mumtaz Zehri, Syed Muzafar Hussain Shah, Syed Shibli Faraz and Walid Iqbal.

The members of the opposition, during the sub-committee meeting chaired by Barrister Ali Zafar, expressed reservation on a provision allowing the constitution of special courts, however, the proposal was rejected by a majority vote during the meeting.

Speaking to Dawn.com, sub-committee member Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar said prospective special courts were bound to decide a case within four months.

"If a suspect approaches a high court, then it will have to decide the case in six months and in the meanwhile the suspect can't be granted bail," he said while talking about provisions in the law.

The bill will now be tabled in the Senate for approval.

Earlier, during the meeting, member National Assembly Malika Bukhari — who also attended the session — informed the panel about a proposal in the bill for the establishment of special courts to hear rape cases.

The panel was also informed that courts will have serving judges instead of retired judges.

Opposing the suggestion, Raza Rabbani of the PPP said he didn’t believe that constitution of special courts was required for hearing rape cases.

“We are not against the rules, but oppose the formation of special courts,” he said.

Azam Nazeer Tarar of the PML-N said similar courts were also established in the past, but they didn’t serve any purpose.

Voicing almost similar concerns, PPP’s Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar said the judicial system had “choked” and called for the enactment of special laws for children and women.

He suggested the parliament must monitor the performance of special courts, adding the legislature could make changes to the law if issues continue to transpire.

Law Minister Farogh Naseem said the law could be challenged if a provision for oversight powers for parliament was incorporated in it.

He, however, added that the parliament was empowered to take notice of any issue.

The sub-committee chairman said the bill would cease to exist if the condition for the formation of special courts was omitted from it.

Talking to the media after the meeting, Barrister Zafar said the sub-committee had approved the bill in which the condition of a virginity test had been abolished.

He said a suspect, if proven guilty, could face the death sentence, life imprisonment or undergo chemical castration.

The senator said investigation officials could also face penalty if they were found negligent or tried to mislead case proceedings in any capacity.

In December last year, President Dr Arif Alvi had approved the Anti-Rape Ordinance 2020 to ensure speedy trial of rape cases with women and children as victims and to allow chemical castration of those convicted of such offences.

A statement issued by the President House had said that under the ordinance, special courts would be established throughout the country for speedy trials of sexual assault suspects. The courts would have to wrap up the cases within four months.

DAWN

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) has declared the castration of rape convicts un-Islamic, said a notification issued by the body on Wednesday.

The notification was issued after a two-day session of the CII, which also expressed concerns regarding incidents of sexual harassment reported from seminaries, universities, and institutes of Islamic education.

It stated that the CII has decided to write letters to Wifaq Ul Madaris, the federation of Islamic seminaries in Pakistan, Higher Education Commission, and federal and provincial education departments, suggesting to hold a national educational conference.

Furthermore, the CII has approved the Ruet-e-Hilal Committee, 2020, and The Islamabad Compulsory Teaching of the Arabic Language Bill, 2020.

The council remarked that making efforts to teach Arabic as a language is a religious and constitutional requirement.

It also suggested the inclusion of Persian, Turkish, and Chinese as languages in the curriculum and setting up Quranic Gardens in the vacant areas of the seminaries and mosques.

"The establishment of the Rehmatul-lil-Aalameen Authority is a commendable effort," it remarked.

Law for chemical castration of rapists okayed by PM Imran Khan
Last year in November, Prime Minister Imran Khan had approved, in principle, a law for the chemical castration of rapists.

The decision was made during a federal cabinet meeting wherein the law ministry presented a draft of the anti-rape ordinance. The draft included increasing women’s role in policing, fast-tracking rape cases and witness protection.

Stressing that this was a serious matter, PM Imran Khan had said no delay will be tolerated. “We need to ensure a safe environment for our citizens.”

The premier had said the legislation will be clear and transparent with strict enforcement. He had added rape survivors will be able to register complaints without fear, adding that the government will protect their identity.

The federal cabinet has, in principle, approved strict severe punishment for rape convicts.

Addressing a post-cabinet press briefing, Minister for Information and Broadcasting Senator Shibli Faraz said after giving in-principle approval to the anti-rape ordinance, the cabinet asked the Law Division and other departments concerned to finalise the draft at the earliest by removing all legal lacunae that could be exploited by offenders.

He said PM Imran Khan, after noting with grave concern the recent rape incident of a mother and her daughter in Sindh, asked Law Minister Farogh Naseem to prepare a comprehensive ordinance, encompassing fast-track trial of the accused, a comprehensive definition of rape, inclusion of new offences and strict punishments for the convicted rapists.

The minister said as the ordinance is of great importance and involves punitive actions against the rapists, it was forwarded to the Law Division for further improvement.

He expressed the hope that the initiative would significantly reduce the number of rape incidents in the country by creating effective deterrence against the offence in society.

Rape laws in Pakistan
There has been much debate around rape laws in Pakistan. The incident of Kasur's Zainab and more recently the motorway gang-rape in Lahore sparked a debate on the severity of punishment to prevent sexual assaults.

Speaking at a joint sitting of the Parliament after a passage of bills pertaining to the FATF, PM Imran Khan had said that the government will soon introduce three-tier legislation including registration of sex offenders, exemplary punishment for rape and child abuse and effective policing.

In an interview, PM Imran Khan had suggested public hanging and chemically castrating the convicts to curb rising sexual violence in the country.

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[SpiritOf1903]

What's Islamic about chinese lol?. They're too busy showing Islam out. God!.

 

[street cricketer]

It also suggested the inclusion of Persian, Turkish, and Chinese as languages in the curriculum and setting up Quranic Gardens in the vacant areas of the seminaries and mosques.

Wait what..

Is there any logical explanation behind this or is there a Chinese Ertugrul we don't know about..

 

[saeedhk]

We need to get rid of the CII. It is a bogus council run by extremists who always shoot down important and progressive legislation. The council has always and continues to oppose anti-domestic violence bill, women protection bill, underage marriage bill and anti-forced conversion bill.

 

[Ryw]

The council of islamic ideology is 100 % spot on, half numbers of the rape cases are falsely accused for attention seeking, agreed sex between two parties, conflict occurs claim a rape. You cannot chemicaly castratre 50 % of your males for attention seeking snowflakes