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[VIDEO] Shahid Afridi, a senior’s “send off” to Saif Badar [Shahid Afridi's apology Post#37]

The standard of cricket has nothing to do with crowd attendance - wow.

Ok. The quality of the product you are selling has nothing to do with how many people buy the product..

Great...

:afaq

People come when they have the time or resources to do so. Most of them are working people. Why do you think there is such a huge crowd on Fridays regardless of the match? Also a lot of others who want to come don't have the means to do so. Have you ever taken a trip to Dubai Cricket Stadium without having a car? The logistics involved in getting everyone there is non existent. That's why you always have a larger crowd in Sharjah because the stadium is much more accessible to the lower income people.

The quality of product reasoning would work somewhere with a cheap transport system for the lower income people and high median income populace available to come to watch the sport without having to worry about other work related commitments, not in places like Dubai and especially not on weekdays.

Most of the people in Dubai and especially Sharjah (mostly the low income workers) don't care about the quality of cricket and just come to enjoy a bit of time out away from their personal problems and make some connection with their heritage which they are really missing.
 
We have seen many times in cricket and this PSL players reacting whilst bowlers celebrate; ala Wahab v Shehzad / Wahab v Rahat without the “beating someone up with the bat.”

To avoid such alterations; knowing Shahid Afridi’s nature (as history and yesterday) evinces; Shaheen did well, very smart.



:))

In Afridis 20+ year career when have you seen him reacting to a bowler celebrating his wicket? Or is the logic that other players reacted so Afridi would react...

Only Pakistani fans have the ability to take some thing as positive as a junior giving senior respect and twisting it into something dire and negative.
 
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in Afridis 20+ year career when have you seen him reacting to a bowler celebrating his wicket? Or is the logic that other players reacted so Afridi would react...

You see - the issue with this question is... the day before yesterday, someone asked me “Have u ever witnessed Afridi react in any negative/bizzare way towards a emerging youngster not once but twice during the post wicket situation?” I said no.

How wrong was I.

People have had clean criminal history before committing a offence - the point here is, just because Afridi has shown consistency is not doing something; there is no guarantee he wouldn’t do something which opposes that; a prime example like yesterday: never did it before to a youngster during celebration but he did; so him reacting negatively to a celebration of a bowler can happen too; has happened in cricket too.
 
Shaheen Shah showing respect to Afridi - maybe a lesson for the big guy (age one)
 
Just because you are a senior player it doesn't mean that you cannot receive a send-off. I don't recall seeing any rule in the laws of cricket saying senior players cannot receive a send-off.

There is no rule as such but some things are unspoken and kuddos to Shaheen Afridi for giving respect to a seasoned senior in Shahid Afridi.
 
There is no rule as such but some things are unspoken and kuddos to Shaheen Afridi for giving respect to a seasoned senior in Shahid Afridi.

Its not about respect, he just didn't want to challenge the powerful Afridi lobby.
 
Lol being an Afridi himself?

So what? Never underestimate the power of a bruised ego and a sense of self entitlement. Especially in the desi circles. We had many a career destroyed due to politics and internal fighting.
 
You see - the issue with this question is... the day before yesterday, someone asked me “Have u ever witnessed Afridi react in any negative/bizzare way towards a emerging youngster not once but twice during the post wicket situation?” I said no.

How wrong was I.

People have had clean criminal history before committing a offence - the point here is, just because Afridi has shown consistency is not doing something; there is no guarantee he wouldn’t do something which opposes that; a prime example like yesterday: never did it before to a youngster during celebration but he did; so him reacting negatively to a celebration of a bowler can happen too; has happened in cricket too.

:))

The exclusion of difficult questions followed by baseless assumptions is hilarious.

So keyboard warrior Uncle Theo who knows everything about my childhood - you ever made a mistake in your flawless life?
 
People come when they have the time or resources to do so. Most of them are working people. Why do you think there is such a huge crowd on Fridays regardless of the match? Also a lot of others who want to come don't have the means to do so. Have you ever taken a trip to Dubai Cricket Stadium without having a car? The logistics involved in getting everyone there is non existent. That's why you always have a larger crowd in Sharjah because the stadium is much more accessible to the lower income people.

The quality of product reasoning would work somewhere with a cheap transport system for the lower income people and high median income populace available to come to watch the sport without having to worry about other work related commitments, not in places like Dubai and especially not on weekdays.

Most of the people in Dubai and especially Sharjah (mostly the low income workers) don't care about the quality of cricket and just come to enjoy a bit of time out away from their personal problems and make some connection with their heritage which they are really missing.

SOme very valid points there - dubai ground is difficult to get to.

However, this is the same ground which is sold out when there is an international T20 going on with high quality Cricket.

How many sold out matches have we seen in dubai or Sharjah all PSL?
 
There is no rule as such but some things are unspoken and kuddos to Shaheen Afridi for giving respect to a seasoned senior in Shahid Afridi.

No problems at all with Shaheen not celebrating, but the senior junior thing is just plain weird.
 
No problems at all with Shaheen not celebrating, but the senior junior thing is just plain weird.

Would be in favor of a youngster giving a send off to Misbah? :)
 
SOme very valid points there - dubai ground is difficult to get to.

However, this is the same ground which is sold out when there is an international T20 going on with high quality Cricket.

How many sold out matches have we seen in dubai or Sharjah all PSL?

You cannot compare a couple of international T20 league to a month long tournament. More people attend the internationals T20s for the rarity rather than the quality.
 
You cannot compare a couple of international T20 league to a month long tournament. More people attend the internationals T20s for the rarity rather than the quality.

In this instance - you can - since you’re claiming that the reason the ground have been empty isn’t got anything to do with the standard of cricket - it’s to do with the inaccessibility of the ground, lack of resources for the people who are attending the games, m, expensive transport system in Dubai etc. etc.

Those restrictions are still their whether it’s a PSL game or a high quality game like and international T20.

Look man - I’m a big fan of the PSL and I see big benefits in it. I think, In-Shaa-Allah if it’s done right it can bring a great deal of success to Pakistan’s future In-Shaa-Allah. In fact over the last two years it has already helped Pakistan Cricket greatly with the introduction of players such as Hassan’s Ali, Shadab Khan, Fakhir Zamar, Faheem Ashraf etc. etc.

I’ve watched PSL for the last two years & watched near enough every game this year - however this year - the standard of cricket (bar the fielding by enlarge) and consequently the attendence in the crowd has been pretty terrible. Now rather than ignoring these facts, I think we should look at ways at how to resolve them and how to improve the PSL so that we can build on the success of PSL 1 & 2.

Now one way is to move PSL Ron Pakistan. Although that it is a very appealing proposal, the practicality of that happening any time soon is not very realistic IMO. I hope I am wrong - however, that’s just my opinion.

The other thing we can do to improve the PSL sand get and mor engaged is get the players more motivated and fired up to deliver a higher quality and play a more appealing band of Cricket. When getting to the Dubai stadium is such a drag, why would I make the effort if one team is dismissed for 114 and the other will stumble to the target with 7 wickets down, either though neither team is bowling particularly well?

I’m sorry but I do not think for a single second that the international players care about anything other than their bank balance. McCallum doesn’t are about Lahore, KP doesn’t care about Quetta, Pollard doesn’t care about Multan etc. etc. - and why should they? So they aren’t going to ply with any great deal of passion and jazba. So therefore the least we can do is encourage our Pakistabiblkayers to play with a bit more heart and more passion.

As a result of that their will be incidents on the field like Afridi giving a youngster a send off which I have no problem with as long as it is kept on the field. Following the incident Afridi very publicly apologised - which was his decision to do - move on. If that youngster gives up Cricket because a legend (and yes he was a legend) directedbsome emotion towards him on a cricket field a he’s got issues. If I was playing against Wasim, and he got pumped up after dismissing me - I would take that as a compliment.

Having said that - at the same time - if Shaheen doesn’t want to celebrate after getting Afridi’s wicket I respect that. That’s his decision. Even Shaheens lack of celebration showed a great deal emotion and was appealing for an audience to watch.

Anyway - we have gone way off topic here. In summary - I think the players playing a bit more aggressive and appealing brand of cricket will certainly help the PSL since it will get more of a crowd in and give younger players a bit more experiece of playing in high pressure situations. Also, have a look st some pics of international T20’s or even IPL matches being played in Dubai and compare the crowd there to what we are seeing in the PSL - then let me know, in your opinion what does PSL have to do to attract that crowd if it isn’t playing a better quality of cricket.
 
In this instance - you can - since you’re claiming that the reason the ground have been empty isn’t got anything to do with the standard of cricket - it’s to do with the inaccessibility of the ground, lack of resources for the people who are attending the games, m, expensive transport system in Dubai etc. etc.

Those restrictions are still their whether it’s a PSL game or a high quality game like and international T20.

Look man - I’m a big fan of the PSL and I see big benefits in it. I think, In-Shaa-Allah if it’s done right it can bring a great deal of success to Pakistan’s future In-Shaa-Allah. In fact over the last two years it has already helped Pakistan Cricket greatly with the introduction of players such as Hassan’s Ali, Shadab Khan, Fakhir Zamar, Faheem Ashraf etc. etc.

I’ve watched PSL for the last two years & watched near enough every game this year - however this year - the standard of cricket (bar the fielding by enlarge) and consequently the attendence in the crowd has been pretty terrible. Now rather than ignoring these facts, I think we should look at ways at how to resolve them and how to improve the PSL so that we can build on the success of PSL 1 & 2.

Now one way is to move PSL Ron Pakistan. Although that it is a very appealing proposal, the practicality of that happening any time soon is not very realistic IMO. I hope I am wrong - however, that’s just my opinion.

The other thing we can do to improve the PSL sand get and mor engaged is get the players more motivated and fired up to deliver a higher quality and play a more appealing band of Cricket. When getting to the Dubai stadium is such a drag, why would I make the effort if one team is dismissed for 114 and the other will stumble to the target with 7 wickets down, either though neither team is bowling particularly well?

I’m sorry but I do not think for a single second that the international players care about anything other than their bank balance. McCallum doesn’t are about Lahore, KP doesn’t care about Quetta, Pollard doesn’t care about Multan etc. etc. - and why should they? So they aren’t going to ply with any great deal of passion and jazba. So therefore the least we can do is encourage our Pakistabiblkayers to play with a bit more heart and more passion.

As a result of that their will be incidents on the field like Afridi giving a youngster a send off which I have no problem with as long as it is kept on the field. Following the incident Afridi very publicly apologised - which was his decision to do - move on. If that youngster gives up Cricket because a legend (and yes he was a legend) directedbsome emotion towards him on a cricket field a he’s got issues. If I was playing against Wasim, and he got pumped up after dismissing me - I would take that as a compliment.

Having said that - at the same time - if Shaheen doesn’t want to celebrate after getting Afridi’s wicket I respect that. That’s his decision. Even Shaheens lack of celebration showed a great deal emotion and was appealing for an audience to watch.

Anyway - we have gone way off topic here. In summary - I think the players playing a bit more aggressive and appealing brand of cricket will certainly help the PSL since it will get more of a crowd in and give younger players a bit more experiece of playing in high pressure situations. Also, have a look st some pics of international T20’s or even IPL matches being played in Dubai and compare the crowd there to what we are seeing in the PSL - then let me know, in your opinion what does PSL have to do to attract that crowd if it isn’t playing a better quality of cricket.

Again, you have made some valid points regarding the PSL and your support is commendable. However you still did not address my point. A once/twice in a year affair attracts more spectators than a month long league. Also as I pointed out earlier these international matches are held on weekends or around that timeline to attract more people. We have had many an international match on weekdays with 5 people and their cushioned toys. And we are talking T20s here, forget ODIs or God forbid Tests.

The main of it is that people who can afford to attend cricket have to take many things into consideration, like transport, time window etc and is mainly viewed just as a source of distraction (among many other available in the UAE) given their schedules rather than following quality cricket unlike places like Aus/SA/Eng etc. Even BD has a good attendance at home and so will we in Pakistan given the sheer amount of people.

To reiterate the quality of cricket has nothing to do with the crowds as the attendance is based on many variables, a lot of which don't have anything to do with the game itself.
 
Again, you have made some valid points regarding the PSL and your support is commendable. However you still did not address my point. A once/twice in a year affair attracts more spectators than a month long league. Also as I pointed out earlier these international matches are held on weekends or around that timeline to attract more people. We have had many an international match on weekdays with 5 people and their cushioned toys. And we are talking T20s here, forget ODIs or God forbid Tests.

The main of it is that people who can afford to attend cricket have to take many things into consideration, like transport, time window etc and is mainly viewed just as a source of distraction (among many other available in the UAE) given their schedules rather than following quality cricket unlike places like Aus/SA/Eng etc. Even BD has a good attendance at home and so will we in Pakistan given the sheer amount of people.

To reiterate the quality of cricket has nothing to do with the crowds as the attendance is based on many variables, a lot of which don't have anything to do with the game itself.

The IPL is a month long tournament and this is what the stands looked like when it was hosted in Dubai:

http://sport360.com/article/cricket/ipl/20798/high-five-dubai-every-ipl-match-proves-sell-out/

Now granted there’s twice as many Indians as their are Pakistanis in UAE, however, they are from a similar demographic background and the PSL matches aren’t anywhere near even half sold out

Granted - when/if In-Shaa-Allah PSL moves to Pakistan the games will be a sell out In-Shaa-Allah. However, as you say yourself m, rare events draw a larger crowd and having the PSL in Pakistan will be a rare event. Even with the sheer magnitude of people the games in Pakistan will have a bigger crowd inshallah.

However, that shouldn’t be the bar which we are comparing ourselves against.

We’ve seen other T20 leagues around the world and we have seen IPL in India. We should be looking at how to make ourselves as good as and then In-Shaa-Allah better than these other leagues.

Going back to the point about better Cricket attracts better crowds. Just have a look at general Pakistani Test matches in the UAE & compare them to the likes of Pakistan vs England in 2010 or Pakistani vs Australia in 2014 when Pakistan was playing an exceptionally higher quality of cricket.

In my mind man - a higher quality of cricket attracts more crowd and there’s no two way about it. I get what you are saying - going to a cricket match isn’t determined solely by the quality of Cricket & their are other factors involved. However, I think the quality of cricket also has a significant impact on influencing people’s decision on whether or not they want to go to the game.
 
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