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[VIDEO] "Shahid Afridi has always been against me" : Danish Kaneria on being discriminated against

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Watch him make the comments on Vikrant Gupta's inteview from 42:00 onwards.

"What Shoaib Akhtar said was because he felt it and this has happened with me. I agree with what he said and he was 100% right. There were such people.

"He spoke about captains. I spoke under Inzi bhai for 3 years and he supported me and it was not him. When we came to India, I played holi with Younis bhai so it's not him either. He was with me.

"Shahid Afridi has always been against me. Since the beginning. He didn't allow me to come in the ODI team. When we played for the bank and department, he kept me out of the team and didn't allow me to play One Day tournaments. He always tried to keep me out. He tried to take me out of it always.

"I played only 16 ODIs, spread across 10 years where I usually played 2-3 matches."
 
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Watch him make the comments on Vikrant Gupta's inteview from 42:00 onwards.

Claims Afridi used to mistreat him, never let him progress and even benched him from the HBL team

Vikrant Gupta specifically asked him if Inzi and Younis Khan did not mistreat him, then who and he proceeded to mention Afridi.

I wonder if these comments have reached Afridi and if he will take any legal action against an already bankrupt Kaneria

How is not playing someone in A list cricket mistreating them?

Kaneria was never an odi cricketer His fielding and his batting were very weak He was never gonna play over afridi himself who himself is a leggie
 
How is not playing someone in A list cricket mistreating them?

Kaneria was never an odi cricketer His fielding and his batting were very weak He was never gonna play over afridi himself who himself is a leggie

More so, i don't believe Afridi ever captained Kaneria in international cricket barring that one test match at Lords. Not sure what was he insinuating, did Afridi lobby the captains and coaches to play himself over Kaneria? Did Afridi refuse to eat meals with him? I hope Afridi responds to this as he himself is cattering to minorities in Pakistan with his foundation work
 
I am all up for freedom of speech but there should be some rule in media around the world that if you are putting allegations on someone you need to bring proof to back that. Sharing opinions, thoughts etc is completely fine but the trend of allegations without anything to back that is not on.

Media is a powerful medium and its shouldnt be allowed to misuse it.
 
I am all up for freedom of speech but there should be some rule in media around the world that if you are putting allegations on someone you need to bring proof to back that. Sharing opinions, thoughts etc is completely fine but the trend of allegations without anything to back that is not on.

Media is a powerful medium and its shouldnt be allowed to misuse it.

Exactly. Couldn’t agree more with you.
 
Kaneria was never an odi cricketer His fielding and his batting were very weak He was never gonna play over afridi himself who himself is a leggie

his list a record as a bowler is pretty good but the latter point is the crux of the matter, afridi batting and fielding bonus was superior any edge kaneria had as a bowler.

if it wasnt for the fact that shahid didnt wanna play 5 days, kaneria would have played less tests too.
 
OK so the issue here is a bit nuanced.

Lets for a minute assume Afridi actually did not support Kaneria in the team. The insinuation Kaneria seems to be making is that it was due to religion. However imo that is far far from the truth even if true. If Afridi did not want Kaneria to succeed and become part of the ODI set up that was primarily due to professional cricketing reasons.

Afridi post 2005 was in the ODI team primarily as a bowler with the ability to have a few hits. And Kaneria wanted to break into the team as a leg spin option. So they were directly in competition with each other for that spot. So I do not know why Kaneria would expect garlands from Afridi when there is a cricket rivalry there.

Afridi may or may not have mistreated Kaneria or not been a big supporter but it would be due to cricketing reasons and that has happened since start of the game and will keep on happening. The issue is that Kaneria is trying to give this a religious angle as if he was persecute
 
his list a record as a bowler is pretty good but the latter point is the crux of the matter, afridi batting and fielding bonus was superior any edge kaneria had as a bowler.

if it wasnt for the fact that shahid didnt wanna play 5 days, kaneria would have played less tests too.

i disagree with the 2nd part.

Kaneria's leg spin in the longer game was another level.

In ODI's Afridi was a good bowling option as he could be economical and if batting is looking for runs he could exploit mistakes. Tests do not offer that scenario. So in that respect Kaneria was far superior leg spinner.
 
I have lost whatever respect I had for Kaneria.
 
However, I do agree with his feeling in the last part where he says he admits he made e a mistake but some are welcomed back and he is being punished still. But there is a big difference there.

The issue is that PCB does not have control over this.

PCB allowed him to play till 2012 in domestics. However ECB banned him for life, and ICC asks member boards to apply it across. So PCB really is not in a position to lift this.
 
However, I do agree with his feeling in the last part where he says he admits he made e a mistake but some are welcomed back and he is being punished still. But there is a big difference there.

The issue is that PCB does not have control over this.

PCB allowed him to play till 2012 in domestics. However ECB banned him for life, and ICC asks member boards to apply it across. So PCB really is not in a position to lift this.

The more he bad-mouths well-respected cricketers like Afridi, the less his chances of any sort of return.
 
i disagree with the 2nd part.

Kaneria's leg spin in the longer game was another level.

In ODI's Afridi was a good bowling option as he could be economical and if batting is looking for runs he could exploit mistakes. Tests do not offer that scenario. So in that respect Kaneria was far superior leg spinner.

peak kanerias leg spin was deffo very good, especially in tests, but he was erratic and inconsistent and rarely a match winner, an average of 30+ every year against top opposition show he was not a top tier bowler.

him being a leggie had a massive part to play in his consistent selection. dont think it'd be that much of a leap of faith to imagine a test team with afridi as a leg spin all rounder and a finger spinner like arshad khan or abdur rehman as the main bowler.
 
Selection discrimination is one thing. Accusing someone of discriminating against you on the basis of religion is another matter.
 
However, I do agree with his feeling in the last part where he says he admits he made e a mistake but some are welcomed back and he is being punished still. But there is a big difference there.

The issue is that PCB does not have control over this.

PCB allowed him to play till 2012 in domestics. However ECB banned him for life, and ICC asks member boards to apply it across. So PCB really is not in a position to lift this.

His strategy is all wrong. He needs to actually get in touch with the ECB first himself and request them to change his life ban to a durated ban. He has served 8 years now. But this shows you the difference between Goras and us Desi's, things like "i need to earn my bread and butter" affects us emotional desi's, gora's don't give a damn and are very black and white about wrong doing.

Lou Vincent got a life ban and he has not complained and has moved on with life.
 
Former Pakistan spinner Danish Kaneria on Saturday accused Shahid Afridi of treating him unfairly all through his career and blamed him for a rather short limited-overs outing. Kaneria, only the second Hindu to play for Pakistan after his maternal uncle Anil Dalpat, took 261 wickets in 61 Tests at an average of 34.79. However, he only played 18 ODIs between 2000 and 2010.

Speaking to PTI from Karachi, the 39-year-old said, beyond his religion, it was difficult for him to think about the reason behind Afridi''s discriminatory behaviour.

"He was always against me, when we were playing for the same department in domestic cricket or playing me in ODIs. If one person is always against you and you are in that situation, what other reason would think other than that (religion)," said Kaneria when asked if he was a victim of religious discrimination.

Kaneria, who last year supported Shoaib Akhtar's claim that he was treated unfairly in the team because of his religion, said he could have played a lot more than 18 ODIs if it was not for Afridi.

"I could not play more ODIs because of him and he also treated me unfairly when we used to play for the same department (in domestic cricket), he was the captain. He used to keep me out of the side and often he would do the same in ODIs without any reason.

"He used to support others but not me. Thanks to almighty, I still went on to play a lot for Pakistan and I could not be more proud of that."

Kaneria said he used to be a regular member of ODI squads but hardly got to play, blaming Afridi again for that.

"I was a leg spinner and so was he. That was another reason. He was a big star and playing for Pakistan anyway and to treat me like that, I could not understand why.

"They used to say two spinners can't play in the eleven. They used to say my fielding was an issue in limited-overs cricket. You tell me who were the supremely fit leaders at that time? There were only one or two good fielders. Pakistan was never known for fielding anyway.

"When not playing international cricket, he used to come back and drop me from the departmental team."

Kaneria, who was found guilty of spot-fixing alongside Mervyn Westfield while playing for English county Essex against Durham in 2009, has been pleading for PCB''s help for a long time. He wants to come back into the PCB fold and serve the game again.

"I don't want to play the religion card. All I want is PCB's support. If they can allow Mohammad Aamir, Salman Butt back into the system, why not me?

"Yes, I made a mistake but so did others. They can't use and throw me like a toilet paper. I have served Pakistan for a long time and they should support me after all these years"

Kaneria played most under the captaincy of Inzamam-ul-Haq. He said Inzamam and Younis Khan supported him the most.

"I played under Moin Khan, Rashid Latif, Inzy bhai, Younish bhai. I played very little under Afridi. Inzy bhai and Younis bhai supported me a lot and it is a fact.

"However, Inzy bhai doesn't talk about me positively in public but I will always be thankful to him for his support. I flourished under him," Kaneria added.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/for...hid-afridi-for-ruining-his-odi-career-2229873
 
Danish is just cashing in on cheap and easy Indian fame. Apart from a few good deliveries in a spell of 100 overs he has nothing else to bring to the table. Yes, he had some potential but if you’ve seen the spells of his best figures you’ll notice that he was never outstanding. Few good deliveries here and there mixed with a lot of trash. He never perfected his art and relied on surfing the “talunt” wave like many others.
 
OK so the issue here is a bit nuanced.

Lets for a minute assume Afridi actually did not support Kaneria in the team. The insinuation Kaneria seems to be making is that it was due to religion. However imo that is far far from the truth even if true. If Afridi did not want Kaneria to succeed and become part of the ODI set up that was primarily due to professional cricketing reasons.

Afridi post 2005 was in the ODI team primarily as a bowler with the ability to have a few hits. And Kaneria wanted to break into the team as a leg spin option. So they were directly in competition with each other for that spot. So I do not know why Kaneria would expect garlands from Afridi when there is a cricket rivalry there.

Afridi may or may not have mistreated Kaneria or not been a big supporter but it would be due to cricketing reasons and that has happened since start of the game and will keep on happening. The issue is that Kaneria is trying to give this a religious angle as if he was persecute

I wont be so sure about it TBH.

Shoaib Akhtar on record said how Kaneria was humiliated in the dressing room because he was a hindu.

Then there were rumors about the influence of religion in the dressing room under Inzy.

Afridi himself was no liberal and once claimed to have broken the television set in anger because his daughter was watching some aarti.

I am not saying Kaneria is saint but Afridi ain't either. There is no smoke without fire as they say.

Also, in the entire history of Pak cricket only 2 hindus represented PCT - Danish and his uncle Dalpat. Are we saying there was no other hindu anywhere in Pakistan good enough to represent the team? C'mmon now.

Its a clear case of discrimination whether we agree or not.

On the other hand India had many muslims players including 2 ex captains. Even BD had fair share of hindu representation.

So taking all into account...cant totally be sure that Kaneria was not mistreated.
 
I wont be so sure about it TBH.

Shoaib Akhtar on record said how Kaneria was humiliated in the dressing room because he was a hindu.

Then there were rumors about the influence of religion in the dressing room under Inzy.

Afridi himself was no liberal and once claimed to have broken the television set in anger because his daughter was watching some aarti.

I am not saying Kaneria is saint but Afridi ain't either. There is no smoke without fire as they say.

Also, in the entire history of Pak cricket only 2 hindus represented PCT - Danish and his uncle Dalpat. Are we saying there was no other hindu anywhere in Pakistan good enough to represent the team? C'mmon now.

Its a clear case of discrimination whether we agree or not.

On the other hand India had many muslims players including 2 ex captains. Even BD had fair share of hindu representation.

So taking all into account...cant totally be sure that Kaneria was not mistreated.

That's not exactly accurate. The comparison with India is also not completely relevant. The hindu population in Pakistan is below 2% whilst the Muslim population in India is more than 14%. Further, the majority of the Pakistani hindu population is based in interior Sindh, where there aren't the amount of cricketing facilities as there are in Punjab or the main metropolitan centres. So, statistically speaking, it's clearly understandable why you don't see many international level Hindus representing Pakistan.

Also, your comment on Inzy's time as captain is correct in that there was more of a religious influence on the team. However, that doesn't mean that that had negative connotations for Kaneria, as religiously speaking, there's a greater impetus to treat minorities fairly. This is further borne by the fact that Kaneria seems respectful of both Inzy and Younis bhai, so his treatment was clearly respectful here.

As regards Afridi, his relationships with both Yuvraj and Harbhajan don't paint him out to be a bigot. Also his charitable actions right now paint a more relevant picture than what Kaneria suggests.

It may well be that there was more a professional rivalry, given that they were both leggies. It would be very unusual to see two leggies in a team. The rest really is hearsay
 
I wont be so sure about it TBH.

Shoaib Akhtar on record said how Kaneria was humiliated in the dressing room because he was a hindu.

Then there were rumors about the influence of religion in the dressing room under Inzy.

Afridi himself was no liberal and once claimed to have broken the television set in anger because his daughter was watching some aarti.

I am not saying Kaneria is saint but Afridi ain't either. There is no smoke without fire as they say.

Also, in the entire history of Pak cricket only 2 hindus represented PCT - Danish and his uncle Dalpat. Are we saying there was no other hindu anywhere in Pakistan good enough to represent the team? C'mmon now.

Its a clear case of discrimination whether we agree or not.

On the other hand India had many muslims players including 2 ex captains. Even BD had fair share of hindu representation.

So taking all into account...cant totally be sure that Kaneria was not mistreated.

This is pretty stupid for you to compare the 2 countries without knowing context.

Firstly. The percentage of Muslims as Indian population is 14+% whereas for Pakistan it is 2-3%. So naturally there will be less representation in national team.

Secondly. And very importantly. Majority of Hindus in Pakistan are Sindhi who do not play cricket as much. There have been no (1 if you count under 19 Azeem Ghuman) Sindhi cricketers who have played for Pakistan so naturally you won’t see Hindus play either.

Finally. There’s smoke only because you want to see it. No evidence of discrimination from Afridi. None.
 
To be honest- Afridi has moved on and has a different direction to his life. if Kaneria is looking for a reaction from Afridi, he will be waiting for a long time.
 
To be honest- Afridi has moved on and has a different direction to his life. if Kaneria is looking for a reaction from Afridi, he will be waiting for a long time.

Not sure, i was hoping Afridi would have filed a defamation suite atleast. He threatened to do it against Miandad who called him a match fixer 3-4 years ago. Why should this situation be any different?
 
Asked Lala about his response.

He said "not my level brother"

:)
 
Danish needs to stop blaming others for his failure to fulfil his talent and ending up as a match fixer. Danish had all the attributes to be a top leg spinner but like Mohammed Sami, he was thick and rarely produced what we thought he was capable of. He wasn't close to being an odi bowler - his fielding was atrocious and he made Devon Malcolm look like Don Bradman as a Batsman.
 
Should have reported the issues when he was playing. Don't get why players make allegations years later.
 
I wont be so sure about it TBH.

Shoaib Akhtar on record said how Kaneria was humiliated in the dressing room because he was a hindu.

Then there were rumors about the influence of religion in the dressing room under Inzy.

Afridi himself was no liberal and once claimed to have broken the television set in anger because his daughter was watching some aarti.

I am not saying Kaneria is saint but Afridi ain't either. There is no smoke without fire as they say.

Also, in the entire history of Pak cricket only 2 hindus represented PCT - Danish and his uncle Dalpat. Are we saying there was no other hindu anywhere in Pakistan good enough to represent the team? C'mmon now.

Its a clear case of discrimination whether we agree or not.

On the other hand India had many muslims players including 2 ex captains. Even BD had fair share of hindu representation.

So taking all into account...cant totally be sure that Kaneria was not mistreated.

Oh man...a poster who has learnt his 'Pakistan' from Whatsapp university.

Someone in majority should never discount what Danish Kaneria felt because majority just can NOT speak for minority. Only a person in minority knows how good or bad they feel discrimination. Judging by his comments, Kaneria must have felt Shahid Afridi discriminated against him.

But I am also a bit skeptical given Kaneria's overall reputation for lying as established by the courts in UK and Pakistan. It is only his fault he has destroyed his own credibility.

My understanding of Pakistan's cricketing system is this: If there is a Hindu playing in Pakistan domestics/clubs, he will face the same obstacles or opportunities that a Muslim will face. Pakistan cricket system is terrible in many ways but I doubt is it discriminatory.
 
Oh man...a poster who has learnt his 'Pakistan' from Whatsapp university.

Someone in majority should never discount what Danish Kaneria felt because majority just can NOT speak for minority. Only a person in minority knows how good or bad they feel discrimination. Judging by his comments, Kaneria must have felt Shahid Afridi discriminated against him.

But I am also a bit skeptical given Kaneria's overall reputation for lying as established by the courts in UK and Pakistan. It is only his fault he has destroyed his own credibility.

My understanding of Pakistan's cricketing system is this: If there is a Hindu playing in Pakistan domestics/clubs, he will face the same obstacles or opportunities that a Muslim will face. Pakistan cricket system is terrible in many ways but I doubt is it discriminatory.

Actually this entire saga of Kaneria and discrimination was brought into light by Shoiab Akhtar. I may have learnt about Pakiatan from whatsapp university but Akhtar shared the dressing room with these players. So I would anyday trust his words more than some random posters online.
 
Kaneria is a joke who is demeaning minorities that actually face problems
 
Actually this entire saga of Kaneria and discrimination was brought into light by Shoiab Akhtar. I may have learnt about Pakiatan from whatsapp university but Akhtar shared the dressing room with these players. So I would anyday trust his words more than some random posters online.


If your trust level is based on truth and integrity from Akhtar...you surely have failed from the WhatsApp University as well ;-P
 
If adil rashid or moeen claimed the same from Ben stokes or Joe root we would be probably be rooting for them on here

Danish seems to have changed his stance and now looks like shahid afridi was to blame for this discrimination rather than inzamam ul haq which is not helping his case

Afridi should have played more tests than Danish, it's a shame that afridi never fulfilled his leg spinning talent
 
If adil rashid or moeen claimed the same from Ben stokes or Joe root we would be probably be rooting for them on here

Danish seems to have changed his stance and now looks like shahid afridi was to blame for this discrimination rather than inzamam ul haq which is not helping his case

Afridi should have played more tests than Danish, it's a shame that afridi never fulfilled his leg spinning talent

You are correct...its all about perception.
 
Kaneria needs to come out and state exactly what discrimination he faced from afridi because or his religion Kaneria needs to clarify his allegations Because at the moment they r wishy washy

Not picking him on cricketing purposes or not supporting him isnt discrimination
 
When Shoaib accused members in his team of discrimination againt Kaneria, the first name that popped up in my mind was Afridi. The signs were always there. He always seemed like a guy with a deep affinity for his tribal/religious background and not one for change and modernity.
 
peak kanerias leg spin was deffo very good, especially in tests, but he was erratic and inconsistent and rarely a match winner, an average of 30+ every year against top opposition show he was not a top tier bowler.

him being a leggie had a massive part to play in his consistent selection. dont think it'd be that much of a leap of faith to imagine a test team with afridi as a leg spin all rounder and a finger spinner like arshad khan or abdur rehman as the main bowler.

When Kaneria played Kamran Akmal was the keeper and he would always miss catches off his bowling. Akmal has a huge role in Kaneria's ordinary record.
 
Asked Lala about his response.
He said "not my level brother"

:)

Shoaib Akhtar mentioned in one of his interview that a captain refused to have a meal with him due to his religion. If it's not Inzi the who is it?
 
When Kaneria played Kamran Akmal was the keeper and he would always miss catches off his bowling. Akmal has a huge role in Kaneria's ordinary record.

i watched a lot of kaneria back then, whilst akmal dropped and missed loads of chances kaneria bowled way more hit me balls than any other frontline pak test spinner too.

if you exclude the anomalous series where he bullied a barely first class level bangladesh team in the early 2000s there is hardly any difference between his average whether kami was behind the stumps or not.
 
When Shoaib accused members in his team of discrimination againt Kaneria, the first name that popped up in my mind was Afridi. The signs were always there. He always seemed like a guy with a deep affinity for his tribal/religious background and not one for change and modernity.

Lmao. You have no valid reason other than your idiotic hunch for Afridi.
 
Kaneria needs to stop playing the religion angle. On one hand he is saying practically all the guys who were in the team at that time did not discriminate against him. On the other hand, he is making half-baked accusations.
 
Kaneria needs to stop playing the religion angle. On one hand he is saying practically all the guys who were in the team at that time did not discriminate against him. On the other hand, he is making half-baked accusations.

He needs to come out and clearly state who did what and provide proof At the moment it just seems like hes stirring a little to remain relevant and get noticed more than anything else
 
When Shoaib accused members in his team of discrimination againt Kaneria, the first name that popped up in my mind was Afridi. The signs were always there. He always seemed like a guy with a deep affinity for his tribal/religious background and not one for change and modernity.

Clear your head of bias and read news about how much charity he is doing for minorities in Pakistan.
 
Danish is trying to get attentions lately. What is his agenda?

He didn't mention these before. Why now?
 
Lmao. You have no valid reason other than your idiotic hunch for Afridi.

Call it an educated guess. As I said, the signs of his backwardness are there and these little clues you can pick up .. like when he said women should stick to the kitchen and not play sport or when he smahed a TV because his kid imitated a hindu ritual. The latter in particular is highly abnormal behaviour.

And now that Kaneria himelf has come out and named Afridi , I think Shoaib was was vaguely referring to him.
 
Kaneria is a mixed up individual, we need to understand he has been pleading with the PCB for a while for forgiveness & a chance to rejoin the cricket fraternity so that he can earn a living.
Now he realises there is little hope of this he is using the current IndoPak situation to play the religious minority card so that he gets some across the border attention. Perhaps his last chance to stay relevant and earn a crust.
As for his accusations, he was never going to get into the Pakistani ODI team ahead of Afridi & frankly speaking Woolmer (one of the best coaches Pak had) wanted Afridi to be an integral part of his test side ahead of Kaneria.
The 2005 tour to India where both Kaneria & Afridi were involved - Afridi had by far the greater impact in that drawn series. Dismissing Tendulkar 3 times including in the 2nd innings at Bangalore where he also took the scalps of Laxman and Ganguly.
Fast forward to the deciding Test of the 2006 series and Kaneria was not even in the side, Afridi was present in that series winning game at Karachi.
 
Lol, Danish assumed naming Afridi would get him a lot of attention. Afridi hasn't taken the bait
 
You are correct...its all about perception.


After failing from WhatsApp University (see my last comment), you seem to have signed up and mastered the most university in India aka let's try and demean Muslims/Pakistanis etc. at every chance we get even when we it is not true!
 
Call it an educated guess. As I said, the signs of his backwardness are there and these little clues you can pick up .. like when he said women should stick to the kitchen and not play sport or when he smahed a TV because his kid imitated a hindu ritual. The latter in particular is highly abnormal behaviour.

And now that Kaneria himelf has come out and named Afridi , I think Shoaib was was vaguely referring to him.

As I said...it’s an idiotic hunch driven by your lack of understanding of pakhtoon tribal culture. Afridi had no say in the team selection or in domestic cricket when Danish was on the rise.
 
Danish Kaneria has been in the spotlight for months due to his controversial statements regarding his career in cricket. He was given a life ban for a spot-fixing charge in 2012 and has been on a mission to get that lifted. Kaneria has spoken out against the Pakistan Cricket Board several times in the past for not allowing him to play cricket while giving reduced punishments to other cricketers for a similar charge.

Kaneria had earlier alleged that some players in the Pakistan team discriminated against him due to his religion. He is only the second Hindu cricketer to play for Pakistan after Anil Dalpat. He went on to play 61 Tests and 18 ODIs for Pakistan and while taking 261 wickets and 15 wickets respectively. However, he was soon embroiled in the spot-fixing controversy (a charge he admitted in 2018) and it derailed his career.

Kaneria recently commented on his career and said that he takes pride in the fact that he represented his country at the highest level while taking another potshot at PCB.

“Playing for the Pakistan cricket team has been a matter of pride for me. Playing for my country and being a Hindu cricketer, representing the Pakistan team and winning matches for my team is like an achievement for me and it is a matter of pride and honor for me,” Kaneria told India TV.

“People accuse me of playing the religion card. I do not mean to do this nor have I ever played the religion card. My issue is only with the Pakistan Cricket Board and its double standards. The behavior of the PCB with the rest of the players is very good but when it comes to me, I am sidelined. I regret this,” he concluded.

Kaneria had criticised PCB’s decision to reduce Umar Akmal’s suspension for failing to report corrupt approaches.

“You call it zero-tolerance policy for corruption. Umar was proved guilty but still, his ban has been halved. They showed compassion in his case. Amir, Asif, Salman too were allowed to come back, why leave me out?” he asked while talking to PTI.

“Why don’t they show the same compassion in my case? They say I talk about my religion (he is a Hindu) but what do I say when the discrimination is crystal clear. I am just going by simple logic,” he said

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ish-kaneria/story-Kp2kkGJG4yqut98rdySUBN.html
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Danish Prabha Shanker Kaneria is a Pakistani cricketer. <br><br>He was a great Pakistani leg spin bowlers and introduced a very well disguised googly in Int’l cricket.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MinoritiesDay?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MinoritiesDay</a> <a href="https://t.co/I4bUZFUpRN">pic.twitter.com/I4bUZFUpRN</a></p>— Radio Pakistan (@RadioPakistan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RadioPakistan/status/1293108114426912768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Don't think Radio Pakistan aware that Kaneria has been banned!
 
Banned Kaneria plays in tournament organised by veterans association

Pakistan’s banned leg-spinner Danish Kaneria has resumed playing cricket but in a tournament organised by veterans’ association as he insisted that there was no bar on him playing in events not organised by the PCB or its affiliated units.

Kaneria, who is under a life ban imposed by England and Wales Cricket Board in 2012 for his alleged involvement in spot-fixing in 2009, turned out in the seniors tournament on Sunday and bagged 4 for 25 in his four overs.

"There is no bar on me playing in a seniors event since it does not come under the ambit of the Pakistan Cricket Board," Kaneria told reporters at the Naya Nazimabad ground in Karachi.

He said he had also filed a petition in the Sindh High Court, pleading for the court to direct the PCB to reopen his case and allow him to attend the Board’s anti-corruption rehabilitation programme like other players found guilty of corruption.

"I want the Board to also give me a fair chance and we have taken the stance that the ECB life ban only bars me from playing any cricket in the UK and the ban does not apply to the jurisdiction of the PCB," he said.

The PCB had ratified the ECB life-ban on Kaneria in 2012 and also banned him from all cricket activities in the country.

A PCB official when contacted said that the seniors tournament run by the Pakistan Veterans Association did not come under the jurisdiction of the Board.

"We have nothing to say in this matter as they are not directly or indirectly affiliated to us. Kaneria is banned from participating in any cricket activity carried out in the country by any affiliated or indirectly affiliated unit of the board," the official said.

Kaneria, 39, said he was hopeful that his ban would end soon and he could make a return to competitive and professional cricket.

"I have apologised for my actions and I have again submitted my apology in my petition to the court. I am ready to attend all rehab programs of the board. I just want them to give me another chance."

Kaneria had taken 261 wickets in 61 Tests for Pakistan before he was sidelined after 2010 due to the ongoing case in the UK.

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cric...d-by-veterans-association/article33321861.ece
 
Hardik Pandya was the star-performer for Team India during the three ODIs and T20Is versus Australia Down Under. Due to his consistent show with the bat, the 27-year-old all-rounder was given the Player-of-the-Series award after India beat Australia, 2-1, in the three-match T20I series.

However, Hardik decided to give his trophy to newcomer T Natarajan, who impressed one and all with 6 scalps at an average of 13.83 in the three T20Is. Natarajan, who filled in for injured Varun Chakravarthy, played four matches (1 ODI and 3 T20Is) and returned with 8 wickets overall. Showing much promise for the future, the newcomer was highly impressive at the death overs and even accounted for some key breakthroughs during crucial junctures of the games he played in.

Hence, Hardik took to his official Twitter handle and wrote after the T20I series, "Natarajan, you were outstanding this series. To perform brilliantly in difficult conditions on your India debut speaks volumes of your talent and hardwork Clapping hands sign You deserve Man of the Series from my side bhai! Congratulations to #TeamIndia on the win."

Seeing the camaraderie between Indian cricketers, former Pakistan leg-spinner Danish Kaneria joined in and lauded Hardik for his gesture towards Natarajan. He wrote from his official Twitter handle, "Great Pic can not be better, #HardikPandya wins the hearts winning the man of the series but gives to Natarjan ,youngster must be delighted and motivated.hamaray Kisi player ney ahsa Kia khabi sub apna sochthay hai (sic)."

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...t-natarajan-slams-pakistani-cricketers/694248
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aamir blasted at the recent management of PCB for the treatment he is facing,Ex test cricketers and super stars of Pakistan supports a Convicted,When i request or says anything Iam said I play religion card,why I don’t get the same treatment &#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57339;*♂️&#55358;&#56631;&#55356;&#57339;*♂️Don’t have clue?Iam not convicted</p>— Danish Kaneria (@DanishKaneria61) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanishKaneria61/status/1339613048626171906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My earnings is just YouTube if u all support I can earn something,other Pakistani you tubers you are supporting who r something else on YouTube and something else on National Tv you all support them just an taught because I am alone will need you all support can u all &#55357;&#56911;support</p>— Danish Kaneria (@DanishKaneria61) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanishKaneria61/status/1342559725595078659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I wont be so sure about it TBH.

Shoaib Akhtar on record said how Kaneria was humiliated in the dressing room because he was a hindu.

Then there were rumors about the influence of religion in the dressing room under Inzy.

Afridi himself was no liberal and once claimed to have broken the television set in anger because his daughter was watching some aarti.

I am not saying Kaneria is saint but Afridi ain't either. There is no smoke without fire as they say.

Also, in the entire history of Pak cricket only 2 hindus represented PCT - Danish and his uncle Dalpat. Are we saying there was no other hindu anywhere in Pakistan good enough to represent the team? C'mmon now.

Its a clear case of discrimination whether we agree or not.

On the other hand India had many muslims players including 2 ex captains. Even BD had fair share of hindu representation.

So taking all into account...cant totally be sure that Kaneria was not mistreated.

Well, Pakistan did let Kaneria play 61 tests, didn't they? They could have kept him out of the team on the account of his religion. It's an Islamic state after all. They could have gotten away with it.

On the other hand, anyone taking Kaneria's words seriously should think again. He is a disgraced match fixer and his cricketing career is over. He will do anything and spout any crap if it will get him some cheap publicity. He also tried to pander to the right wing Hindus during his visit to India
by alleging that he was always discriminated against in Pakistan. It failed spectacularly with no one showing him any sympathy.

I'm not saying that Hindus are not discriminated against in Pakistan, but Kaneria should realise that even the truth isn't believable if it comes out of the mouth of a disgraced cheater.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My earnings is just YouTube if u all support I can earn something,other Pakistani you tubers you are supporting who r something else on YouTube and something else on National Tv you all support them just an taught because I am alone will need you all support can u all ��support</p>— Danish Kaneria (@DanishKaneria61) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanishKaneria61/status/1342559725595078659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is the only reason I dont mind him ranting like the others. Got to earn somehow.
 
Well, Pakistan did let Kaneria play 61 tests, didn't they? They could have kept him out of the team on the account of his religion. It's an Islamic state after all. They could have gotten away with it.

On the other hand, anyone taking Kaneria's words seriously should think again. He is a disgraced match fixer and his cricketing career is over. He will do anything and spout any crap if it will get him some cheap publicity. He also tried to pander to the right wing Hindus during his visit to India
by alleging that he was always discriminated against in Pakistan. It failed spectacularly with no one showing him any sympathy.

I'm not saying that Hindus are not discriminated against in Pakistan, but Kaneria should realise that even the truth isn't believable if it comes out of the mouth of a disgraced cheater.

Also pakistan has 2-3% Hindus, and more than 70-80% of those are Sindhis which is a community which does not have a cricket culture (regardless of religion). I don’t know if we’ve had ANY Sindhi international cricketer.

Obv discrimination happens against Hindus but for someone like Kaneria who is from Karachi and went to a good missionary school; It’s not same experience as a poor farm worker in interior Singh.
 
Pakistan spinner Danish Kaneria failed in his appeal to have his lifetime ban from cricket overturned on this day in 2013.

Kaneria was found guilty of two charges by the England and Wales Cricket Board disciplinary panel for his role in a spot-fixing plot.

He denied all involvement and immediately indicated his intention to contest the decision. But his appeal was dismissed by a Cricket Discipline Commission panel.

Following the hearing, in footage broadcast by Sky Sports News, Kaneria, then 32, said: "I am very disappointed with the decision made by the panel.

"We are waiting for what are the reasons behind it and as soon as we know the reasons we will take some further steps."

The leg-spinner was found guilty of "cajoling and pressurising" former Essex team-mate Mervyn Westfield into accepting cash in return for trying to concede a set number of runs in an over during a Pro40 match in 2009.

ECB chief executive David Collier said: "I welcome wholeheartedly the independent panel's decision to dismiss Mr Kaneria's appeal and uphold the earlier decision made by the Cricket Discipline Commission last summer.

"Corruption has no place in sport and ECB will continue to be vigilant and adopt a zero tolerance approach in this area."

Westfield served two months of a four-month prison sentence in 2012 after admitting spot-fixing and was banned from professional cricket for five years.

The 24-year-old was summoned to appear as a witness, against his wishes, at the appeal after the ECB obtained a witness summons order from the High Court to force Westfield to attend to give evidence against Kaneria.

During his criminal trial, Westfield named Kaneria as the figure who induced him into accepting £6,000 from a bookmaker to under-perform in a match in 2009.

In 2018, Kaneria admitted his guilt in the affair and apologised to Westfield.

He told Al-Jazeera: "My name is Danish Kaneria and I admit that I was guilty of the two charges brought against me by the England and Wales Cricket Board in 2012.

"I have become strong enough to make this decision, because you cannot live a life with lies."

"I want to apologise to Mervyn Westfield, my Essex team-mates, my Essex cricket club, my Essex cricket fans. I say sorry to Pakistan."

https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/cricke...ils-with-appeal-over-lifetime-ban_444849.html
 
So is Kaneria gonna play the religion card on this appeal being dismissed by ECB? What’s the excuse this time ?
On a personal note: I do feel lifetime ban should be lifted and he can be involved with cricket in some capacity, as are other cricketers worldwide.
 
Him confessing so late was the dumbest decision he could have made. Whatever tv gigs he was getting was because some reporters still sympathized with him that he might still have been innocent. He wasted his life savings trying to fight his case in a western country where there is no such thing as bribery or trying to influence the judges, police, investigators.

More than committing the original act, he has suffered because of some dumb decision making after that. Had he confessed early on, he might have gotten a limited ban of a few years and time would have flown quickly. Amir is still playing cricket, Salman Butt is now pursuing commentary and a TV analysts career. Asif is playing and coaching in the US. Kaneria has none of those opportunities
 
It was Kamran Akmal who was always against you dropping all those catches behind the stumps from his bowling. Dani's teeth are so disgusting that i only listened to five minutes of the interview. Give them a good clean for goodness sake.
 
"If one person is always against you and you are in that situation, what other reason would think other than that (religion),"


So he is making guesses. That Indian-appeaser liar Shoab Akhtar made some stuff up to appease Indians and Kaneria agreed with him without actually knowing who exactly was anti-Hindu in the team.
 
All those Pakistanis up in arms, and rightly so, for Azeem Rafiq, are equally quick to dismiss Kaneria's discrimination claims.

Kaneria may be a cheater and a fixer, but his claims of religion based discrimination need examination on its own merit. And knowing Pakistani society, would you think it didn't happen?
 
All those Pakistanis up in arms, and rightly so, for Azeem Rafiq, are equally quick to dismiss Kaneria's discrimination claims.

Kaneria may be a cheater and a fixer, but his claims of religion based discrimination need examination on its own merit. And knowing Pakistani society, would you think it didn't happen?

If you think discrimination was an issue with kaneria - he would have never made it to the national team and played so many tests as he did. He was not athletic either, and considered part of the team.

Why would someone from pakistani team target him after he's already selected and playing? What could be the motivation? I fail to understand your comparison.

Azeem Rafiq is a different story. He never received the spotlight that an international player automatically gets. Things were therefore hidden. How his teammates treated him would not be public knowledge. Any mistreatment towards kaneria would immediately be exposed on the other hand, esp. at national level.
 
It was Kamran Akmal who was always against you dropping all those catches behind the stumps from his bowling. Dani's teeth are so disgusting that i only listened to five minutes of the interview. Give them a good clean for goodness sake.

Kami cost him atleast 50 wickets in dropped catches and missed stumpings. Yet he was out premier leg spinner while Inzi was captain so if Inzimam was against him how come he got to play 61 test and a lot of them under him.
 
If you think discrimination was an issue with kaneria - he would have never made it to the national team and played so many tests as he did. He was not athletic either, and considered part of the team.

Why would someone from pakistani team target him after he's already selected and playing? What could be the motivation? I fail to understand your comparison.

Azeem Rafiq is a different story. He never received the spotlight that an international player automatically gets. Things were therefore hidden. How his teammates treated him would not be public knowledge. Any mistreatment towards kaneria would immediately be exposed on the other hand, esp. at national level.

Don't get your point. Azim, Rana, Adil played lots of games for Yorkshire too. People live in discriminating environments all their lives for employment reasons. Minority cricketers are coming out now, even though none chose to speak up at that time. Azeem did.

Tennis, football superstars are coming out now after years of playing for their clubs and countries about racism they faced.

Being employed or not speaking up does not equal not discriminated against.

Kaneria is a proven fixer so his character is in dispute. However, his allegations need investigation.

And oh, he was plenty useful as an athlete or would not have got 250+ wickets.
 
Not surprised with the discrimination. Religion is the greatest evil especially when it comes to discrimination
 
This is the only reason I dont mind him ranting like the others. Got to earn somehow.

That somehow should not be looking foolish in front of the camera. He's a test cricketer, I refuse to believe there is no cricket academy out there that wants him as a coach.

Shahid Afridi has been at odds with several cricketers. He's a superstar with a big ego and this happens everywhere. This has nothing to do with Kaneria being a Hindu.

Also, I always love when Kaneria repeatedly states that the pious and religious Inzamam ul Haq always supported him. Really garbages the narrative of Inzamam forcing people to become more Islamically inclined.
 
Not surprised with the discrimination. Religion is the greatest evil especially when it comes to discrimination

Spoken like a true ignoramus. Read some history and think for yourself, instead of regurgitating the illogical, false statements of other atheists making a buck on your ignorance and depression.
 
Don't get your point. Azim, Rana, Adil played lots of games for Yorkshire too. People live in discriminating environments all their lives for employment reasons. Minority cricketers are coming out now, even though none chose to speak up at that time. Azeem did.

Tennis, football superstars are coming out now after years of playing for their clubs and countries about racism they faced.

Being employed or not speaking up does not equal not discriminated against.

Kaneria is a proven fixer so his character is in dispute. However, his allegations need investigation.

And oh, he was plenty useful as an athlete or would not have got 250+ wickets.

I think you're arguing for sake of arguing. Chris Gayle is not athletic yet he has the most runs in t20s at the expense of his team. Compared to Afridi who was an allround leg spinner, he would never make in in tests. That was the point - not sure why that is so difficult to comprehend.

Thank you for answering your own question about importance of character in making allegations. You cant cheat and then play victim. Anywhere you're credibility will be questioned.

Kaneria had already made it to the top most level professional team and stayed there. He had already reached the pinnacle of pakistani cricket by playing tests. Even if he says that racism prevented him from progressing further, that in itself is false, since he had accomplished being a part of test team.

Azeem rafiq may be suffered systemic racism where he was never able to obtain real positions of leadership. Now the question becomes was he good enough to make it to english test team.

Dont compare the two situations.
 
Afridi retired from test cricket in 2006 and only played a solitary test in 2010 that too as captain in which Kaneria played as well. Afridi didn't get a taste of captaincy till 2009 that too in LOIs that too as stand in.
Inzi always preferred Afridi and Malik as spinners in ODIs and wasn't a keen captain for a specialist spinner in ODIs otherwise Arshad Khan would have played a lot more matches and Saeed Ajmal would have debuted 5 years earlier.

When he got banned, he was already in the top 2 spinners for tests. Abdur Rehman only got his chance to solidify his position once he got suspended. If there was any discrimination against him on cricketing merit, he wouldn't have played 61 tests and wouldn't have been the highest test wicket taking spinner for Pakistan. He was totally backed despite his middling form after 2006. The point of him getting sidelined for matches for his religion is totally baseless.

However, there is a very good chance that he might have suffered some alienation in domestic cricket and even international cricket personally and it has been a big big problem in Pakistan for minorities. Intolerance and lack of education and fanaticism are the root cause for it.

But the thing is, he never spoke ill of Pakistan till he got banned for fixing. He kept denying his offenses but admitted to them a few years later and then took a u turn and redacted them. So he is a very very unreliable person to believe.

Now all he does is speak against Pak to please India in order to earn money through his twitter and youtube which he has admitted is his main source of income now.

He gathers abuse not because of his religion these days but because of consistent bashing of his own cricketing team.
 
Turned 41 on 16th December.

Was he one of Pakistan's best spinners?
 
All I know he's not a good person and is a blight on the Hindu community. I'm sure his actions are no reflection of Hinduism and Hindus.
 
Turned 41 on 16th December.

Was he one of Pakistan's best spinners?

Won us a few test for sure but don't know how many he intentionally threw away.

Just hoping for Yasir to go past that 261 mark so an honorable man would be able to call himself Pak's highest wicket taker in tests.
 
Turned 41 on 16th December.

Was he one of Pakistan's best spinners?

He seemed to be very unlucky with dropped catches and missed stumpings, often involving Kamran Akmal. He could have had a lot more Test wickets with more reliable support from fielders.
 
Best way to stay relevant is keep playing the religion card. He could have easily moved to India if things for Hindu's in Pak were so terrible. He has a good life in Pak for sure.

His anger stems from the PCB not siding by him during his spot fixing days that he himself admitted. He conveniently forgets how Asif and Butt went the same way.
 
New Delhi: Former Pakistan leggy Danish Kaneria slammed his ex-teammate Shahid Afridi and didn’t mince his words against him as he accused the former of mistreatment during his cricketing days in the Pakistan team.

Last year, Shoaib Akhtar — on a Pakistan channel — made a shocking revelation that the Pakistan team was unfair to Kaneria because he was a Hindu. Danish Kaneria picked up 276 international wickets in 79 matches for the Men in Green.




Speaking to IANS on Thursday, Kaneria said that it was then Pakistan skipper Afridi who was against him.

“Shoaib Akhtar was the first person to talk about my problem in public. Hats off to him for saying it (how I was mistreated in the team because of being a Hindu). However, he was later pressured by several authorities. He then stopped talking about it. But yes, it did happen to me. I was always degraded by Shahid Afridi. We used to play together for the same department, he used to keep me on the bench and didn’t let me play the one-day tournament.

“He didn’t want me to be in the team. He was a liar, manipulator… because he’s a characterless person. However, my focus was only on cricket and I used to ignore all these tactics. Shahid Afridi was the only person who would go to other players and provoke them against me. I was performing well and he was jealous of me. I am proud that I played for Pakistan. I was grateful,” Kaneria told IANS.

The former cricketer said he could have played a lot more than the 18 ODIs he featured in had it not been for Afridi.

The Karachi-born player also said that he was never involved in any kind of spot-fixing.

“Some false allegations were levelled against me (of spot-fixing). My name was joined with the person involved in the case. He was a friend of other Pakistani cricketers as well, including Afridi. But I don’t know why I was targeted. I just want to request the PCB to lift the ban so that I can do my work.

“There are several fixers who got out of ban. I don’t know why I am not able to get that treatment. I have played for my country and I should be given a chance like others as well. Now I am not even playing any international cricket. I am not asking the PCB for any job, but please lift this ban so that I can live peacefully and do my work with respect,” the 41-year-old added.

Between 2000 and 2010, Kaneria played 61 Tests, taking 261 wickets at 34.79. He also represented Pakistan in 18 ODIs, taking 15 wickets at 45.53. He sitll remains the highest wicket-taking spinner for Pakistan in Tests, and fourth in the all-time list behind Wasim Akram (414), Waqar Younis (373) and Imran Khan (362).

However, his career got derailed after he was banned for life from all cricket by the English and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in 2012 on two charges of spot-fixing in the English County Championship pro-league matches in 2009.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-ex-pakistan-cricketer-danish-kaneria-1020184
 
New Delhi: Former Pakistan leggy Danish Kaneria slammed his ex-teammate Shahid Afridi and didn’t mince his words against him as he accused the former of mistreatment during his cricketing days in the Pakistan team.

Last year, Shoaib Akhtar — on a Pakistan channel — made a shocking revelation that the Pakistan team was unfair to Kaneria because he was a Hindu. Danish Kaneria picked up 276 international wickets in 79 matches for the Men in Green.




Speaking to IANS on Thursday, Kaneria said that it was then Pakistan skipper Afridi who was against him.

“Shoaib Akhtar was the first person to talk about my problem in public. Hats off to him for saying it (how I was mistreated in the team because of being a Hindu). However, he was later pressured by several authorities. He then stopped talking about it. But yes, it did happen to me. I was always degraded by Shahid Afridi. We used to play together for the same department, he used to keep me on the bench and didn’t let me play the one-day tournament.

“He didn’t want me to be in the team. He was a liar, manipulator… because he’s a characterless person. However, my focus was only on cricket and I used to ignore all these tactics. Shahid Afridi was the only person who would go to other players and provoke them against me. I was performing well and he was jealous of me. I am proud that I played for Pakistan. I was grateful,” Kaneria told IANS.

The former cricketer said he could have played a lot more than the 18 ODIs he featured in had it not been for Afridi.

The Karachi-born player also said that he was never involved in any kind of spot-fixing.

“Some false allegations were levelled against me (of spot-fixing). My name was joined with the person involved in the case. He was a friend of other Pakistani cricketers as well, including Afridi. But I don’t know why I was targeted. I just want to request the PCB to lift the ban so that I can do my work.

“There are several fixers who got out of ban. I don’t know why I am not able to get that treatment. I have played for my country and I should be given a chance like others as well. Now I am not even playing any international cricket. I am not asking the PCB for any job, but please lift this ban so that I can live peacefully and do my work with respect,” the 41-year-old added.

Between 2000 and 2010, Kaneria played 61 Tests, taking 261 wickets at 34.79. He also represented Pakistan in 18 ODIs, taking 15 wickets at 45.53. He sitll remains the highest wicket-taking spinner for Pakistan in Tests, and fourth in the all-time list behind Wasim Akram (414), Waqar Younis (373) and Imran Khan (362).

However, his career got derailed after he was banned for life from all cricket by the English and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in 2012 on two charges of spot-fixing in the English County Championship pro-league matches in 2009.

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...-ex-pakistan-cricketer-danish-kaneria-1020184

Doubt Afridi had anything to be jealous off vis a vis Kaneria.
 
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