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[VIDEO] Should Shan Masood get a run in the Pakistan ODI team?

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Abdullah719

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Now two years ago, this question would have been laughed off, but Shan's List A performances are difficult to ignore... He's practically banging on the selectors' door at the moment. He has almost 4000 runs in List A cricket now at an average touching 59, SR 83 (closer to 90 in recent times) with 12 hundreds, including this 161 off 133 balls against England Lions earlier today:

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I will lose it if Inzamam selects him for Tests instead of ODIs.
 
Looks way better than Imam here, specially the range of strokes he has displayed against a decent bowling attack. Has a good reach with that straight bat for good length deliveries.

It depends on how well he handles pressure of international cricket. Can easily replace Imam though.
 
The way the PCB handled this player really infuriates me, we saw it with Haris Sohail where he's finally a regular at the age of 30. Shan Masood is 29 and has still not got an ODI cap under his name.

A player with a List A average of 58.78 in 83 matches at a strike rate of 83 would walk into any team. But instead this same player who has an FC average of only 33.85 somehow has been played in 12 test matches for his international side but still NO one day internationals under his belt.

Really need to restructure our entire board, we've lost Fawad Alam, Haris Sohail and Shan Masood three players who should have easily been playing for 15 years + for Pakistan instead will only play around 5-6 years max (Fawad not included).
 
Most definitely You can’t ignore someone who’s averaging so much and has just scored heavily in a A game
Needs to be in the next few odi squads
 
Should replace imam but i doubt inzi will do that.
 
He'll probably get selected for tests instead :facepalm:

Seriously, these performances cannot be overlooked. He deserves to play ahead of Imam.
 
When in free flowing confident form , Shan has a brilliant technique and excellent timing. Sadly for him and Pakistan he has failed at the top level when selected. Deserves another go but not in away conditions.
 
Nahhh England's bowling wasn't all that, so unconvinced. He has glaring technical flaws. Not sure Imam is great either but he's better than Shan Masood for sure.
 
I don't know if he is the answer but I would rather see him given a chance than carry on with Imam who isn't an ODI player. Imam can stay in tests , think he will come good in tests.
 
Could end up being a battle between dad and uncle to see which one of their boys end up in the team. :inzi2
 
The bowling definitely wasn't the best but Shan deserves a go on merit. No harm trying him out and getting the answer to this question once and for all.
 
He deserves his selection. Every domestic player puts in hard work and effort to be selected for the national side. If he is ignored after couple of years of hard work then what sort of message will PCB give to its domestic players?

Pakistan in the past especially since Woolmer era hadn't had any professional or structured setup. I'm certain under any professional selection body which selects players on their merit we wouldn't have seen the likes of Hafeez, Afridi, Sarfraz, etc represent Pakistan cricket for decades. But this is the sad truth that since 2000s we have had spineless management and the cricketers being currently churned out are sad to say impactless on every level.
 
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No. He can't bat against anything higher than 140kph, or accurate bowling. Shannon Gabriel and Jimmy Anderson exposed him big time.
 
aloo paratha said:
No. He can't bat against anything higher than 140kph, or accurate bowling. Shannon Gabriel and Jimmy Anderson exposed him big time.
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Perhaps he is not one of those Akmal and Shehzad's type and worked on his short comings?
 
The numbers don't lie.

The guy probably deserves a chance.
 
For God's sake do not select him for tests. That would be unfair to him and Pakistan.

Would be typical Pakistan if they pick him for the SA tests while he has been doing well in List A.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
For God's sake do not select him for tests. That would be unfair to him and Pakistan.

Would be typical Pakistan if they pick him for the SA tests while he has been doing well in List A.
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If he does well in the ODI’s then they’ll bring him back in the tests. It happens all the time with Pakistan cricket.
 
I think Inzi should quit as selector. Him being incharge is adding pressure on Imam and raising too many question marks if Shan would be picked ahead of Imam.
 
Imam is doing well . Why you will drop him? So does Fakhar. Shaan should be in standby to replace them in case they do bad.
 
In all honesty I think Imam shouldn’t be dropped. Right now he is not doing so bad. But I do think that we need rotation policy in this ODI side. Like I want to see Saud Shakeel play in place of Babar Azam against minnows and in dead rubbers against quality side. Similarly I would love to see Shan playing in place of Fakhar in dead rubbers and against minnows. Would love to see Abid Ali replacing Imam in similar scenarios mentioned above.
The idea should always be about increasing the bench strength as a form of shock absorber against any major injuries.
 
The amount of runs he has , I think he deserves 4 - 5 innings at the top. There is absolutely no excuse , he should not be another fawad , Inzamam should do justice . Inzi was a good player should not tarnish his image.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
In all honesty I think Imam shouldn’t be dropped. Right now he is not doing so bad. But I do think that we need rotation policy in this ODI side. Like I want to see Saud Shakeel play in place of Babar Azam against minnows and in dead rubbers against quality side. Similarly I would love to see Shan playing in place of Fakhar in dead rubbers and against minnows. Would love to see Abid Ali replacing Imam in similar scenarios mentioned above.
The idea should always be about increasing the bench strength as a form of shock absorber against any major injuries.
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You can not drop Babar in any match, we need player like him to play every match and scrore more than 15000 runs to set an example for youngesters.
 
Gathers up like Fakhar, but yes, most definitely deserves a spot in the ODI batting line-up
 
Have people forgotten how mediocre he is. And Imam has more ability in his pinkie finger than shan in his whole body.
 
Really shocked this dud is being given so much importance here.

Do not forget his atrocious technical faults and inability to play anything above 135kph.

Don't be fooled by domestic stats and club level cricket.

He's 10x worse than Ahmed Shehzad !! That says a lot about his quality.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a shot - Shan Masood for Pakistan A versus England Lions <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakAvEngL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakAvEngL</a> <a href="https://t.co/zqoNWrSk87">pic.twitter.com/zqoNWrSk87</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1066967942884143105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2018</a></blockquote>
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On merit he deserves a fair run in ODI's.

He has improved his limited overs game and scored plenty of runs in domestic.
 
MenInG said:
what other criteria other than performance should we use for selection?
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I would think an assessment of technical ability and temperament is also very important, especially because performances in Pakistani domestic cricket can often be misleading.
 
MenInG said:
what other criteria other than performance should we use for selection?
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He will get selected, he is too well connected to be left out (he got selected for tests out of no where). Stats alone should not be the criteria for selection, team's requirement and player's ability to handle specific situations should also be evaluated.

He struggles against pace bowlers and is just another accumulator.
 
Darkrai said:
I will lose it if Inzamam selects him for Tests instead of ODIs.
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And he will be selected in tests, where he will fail and this will ease pressue on Imam.

Did you guyz not see how the selectors kept selecting Fawad Alam for T20s and ODIs instead of Tests, where he was guaranteed to cement his place.

Sadly he last played a test match in 2009 and we have witnessed the greatest injustice in cricket history, where a guy with one of the highest first class average in the history of Planet Earth never made it back to the team.
 
I know his coach from the high school I went too. Even he commented that Shan is not a very rugged cricketer, everything is English polished, he can't see him survive a tough spell of fast bowling.
 
Should be in the ODI squad. There's no reason to not have 3 openers in the squad and the numbers indicate he is doing better than anyone in List A cricket
 
Savak said:
I know his coach from the high school I went too. Even he commented that Shan is not a very rugged cricketer, everything is English polished, he can't see him survive a tough spell of fast bowling.
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English polished England team is doing alright right now.
 
Hawkeye said:
Really shocked this dud is being given so much importance here.

Do not forget his atrocious technical faults and inability to play anything above 135kph.

Don't be fooled by domestic stats and club level cricket.

He's 10x worse than Ahmed Shehzad !! That says a lot about his quality.
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But his average is 58 where imam average was 32?how can you explain???
 
Imam is here to stay unless for some unforseen reason mamu Inzi gets the boot.
 
Agreed that the bowling wasn’t exceptional but Imam has yet to play a decent innings against a quality side. I hope they don’t select shan in the wrong format again. He deserves a chance at minimum for 5 games.
 
We Bleed Green said:
And he will be selected in tests, where he will fail and this will ease pressue on Imam.

Did you guyz not see how the selectors kept selecting Fawad Alam for T20s and ODIs instead of Tests, where he was guaranteed to cement his place.

Sadly he last played a test match in 2009 and we have witnessed the greatest injustice in cricket history, where a guy with one of the highest first class average in the history of Planet Earth never made it back to the team.
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As expected he gets selected in test team where he will fail again to protect Imam.

Pathetic Inzamam
 
We Bleed Green said:
As expected he gets selected in test team where he will fail again to protect Imam.

Pathetic Inzamam
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Azhar and Fakhar are expected to Open. If Azhar prefers number 3 spot than Shan will partner Fakhar because Imam is completely out of sorts especially against short ball. Mickey won't throw him infront of Steyn, Rabada and Olivier given he was knocked on the head recently by Ferguson. (Safety issues)


Shan was highest scorer vs NZ A with 352 runs in 4 innings at an Average of 88 and SR of 72. Hence his selection is merited this time.


Imam should have been rested, it would have been better for his future. Playing him would be very dangerous. Hope he is benched.
 
Was looking forward to seeing shans white ball game, hopefully we lose badly, it’s the only way changes will be made.
 
The guys has great list A stats Was the best test bat against south africa

Why wouldnt you play him??
 
Shan and fakhar are fighting for one spot as iman fills the nepotism quota in the team.
 
He has to. He's showed he's an improved player and deserves a run in both tests and ODIs. He should open the innings with Fakhar. Will make one of the best opening pairs for us.
 
Pakistan will have to be humiliated a few times by Saffers for Pak to get its best players in.

I expect Shan to be in the Pak team by next friday when we are already 2-0 behind.

It always takes a few losses for Pak to get its right combination in a series or tournament. Slow starters eh?
 
Well Imam has certainly booked his place for the next couple of games!
 
It's good healthy competition, stop complaining. Bunch of guys in early and mid 20s vying for a place, what's wrong? Then people will ask "where is talunt?"
 
I know Shobby is a middle order batter and the Shanmeister is running for a top order slot, but if Shobs fails in this SA series, I'd bring in either of Shan or Rizzy as both have struck purple patches in recent times
 
Should replace Malik who looked out of sorts against the short ball today
 
asadee said:
Should replace Malik who looked out of sorts against the short ball today
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I think so too. And Shan should play at 4, ahead of hafeez at 5.

Hafeez scored today but remember that he only scores good when a platform has been set by top order and the ball has been softened. When pakistan loses two early wickets, hafeez struggles under pressure and gets out cheaply.

A top order of fakhar, imam, babar and shan will ensure that we always get a good start, whether batting first or chasing. I don’t know why people are assuming Shan can only be played as opener and is blocked out by fakhar and imam. Shan will be better than Malik at any position.

Shan averages 56 in 87 list A matches. No other team will ever keep such a batsman out of the playing XI
 
Yeah i agree with most posters. Shan in for Malik. Also i would be tempted to play Talat in place of Imad.
 
gazza619 said:
Yeah i agree with most posters. Shan in for Malik. Also i would be tempted to play Talat in place of Imad.
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hopefully Sarfraz sticks to his word and experiments a little in this series. Would be great to see all of Shan, Rizwan, Talat, Amir and Shaheen get at least 2 games in this series
 
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